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Jay Youn
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Приєднався 14 бер 2007
Ludwig Black Beauty comparison: regular vs hammered (LB417 vs LB417K)
Forgot to add indication which clip was for which snares,
*snare with drum key (with whiter color & resolution): Hammered
*without drum key (with yellower color & resolution): Regular
Fun comparison, not a scientific analysis.
Sloppy playing, but clear difference in tone and timbre.
Both drums have exact same heads (coated ambassador and snare side)
20 strands snare wires.
Both snare tuned to nearly identical pitch (by ear),
But I've found hammered shell has noticeably lower fundamental in pitch with same tension applied.
snare off-snare on-dampened.
Higher tuning only, but will experiment other tunings near future.
No processing added.
They both have similar character,
Regular sounds clean, where hammered seems "hazy" in a a good way
(hammered shell is known to provide more overtones and add driness/crispness)
*snare with drum key (with whiter color & resolution): Hammered
*without drum key (with yellower color & resolution): Regular
Fun comparison, not a scientific analysis.
Sloppy playing, but clear difference in tone and timbre.
Both drums have exact same heads (coated ambassador and snare side)
20 strands snare wires.
Both snare tuned to nearly identical pitch (by ear),
But I've found hammered shell has noticeably lower fundamental in pitch with same tension applied.
snare off-snare on-dampened.
Higher tuning only, but will experiment other tunings near future.
No processing added.
They both have similar character,
Regular sounds clean, where hammered seems "hazy" in a a good way
(hammered shell is known to provide more overtones and add driness/crispness)
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*only kick, snare, OHs mic'd, not toms Left to Right Heartbeat Studio 16" hi-hat Meinl Byzance Medium 20" crash (crack repaired) Paiste Twenty Masters Dark 22" ride Paiste Masters Dark 17" crash Heartbeat Custom Dry Light 22" ride
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gear used: Gretsch Broadkaster Right kick: 24x14 kick mic'd Left kick: 22x14 unmic'd 13x9 tom, 16x16 floor Left to right: weird hi-hat Paiste Masters Dark 20" crash-ride Paiste Master Dark 22" Dark ride weird stack Paiste Signature Dark Energy mki 20" crash
Gretsch Broadkaster 24” vs 20”
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Unless you have a really well trained ear, they basically sound the same. Nice sound quality!
Two very nice snares 🤌🏻
Very true, just like an expensive chef's knife anyone can use it but it only makes a difference in the hands of someone with real skill.
00:07 Apollo clean 01:06 Apollo + Neve 1073 02:02 8PreX clean 02:59 8PreX with AIR on snare and OHs 03:55 Saffire Pro 40 clean 04:50 Scarlett Octopre via Apollo 8p 05:46 Scatlett Octopre via Clarett 8PreX 06:40 Scarlett Octopre via Saffire Pro 40 07:47 2 Bars each 08:28 4 Bars each
Byzance 소리 넘 좋습니다~~크으~~드럼 소리도~~^^굿입니다!!!^^
와우 오랫만입니다~~~ ㅎㅎㅎ
So very smooth!
Très beau son.
that snare is so fucking thicc
T H I C C
I luv you!!!!!!!!❤❤❤❤
I got one a couple months ago and love it, I have a clear Remo Controlled Sound batter with a Remo Crown Control gel tuned low/medium with 24 strand PureSound wires.
First I would like to say great drumming performance in this demonstration. Second I would like to thank you for comparing all of these interface pre amps. I have a Soundcraft Signature 22MTK in my main studio, and I'm looking for an eight channel interface with great sounding pre amps to use at my smaller studio. I was considering going cheap and getting the Behringer UMC1820 but that's supposed to be beginner quality and I specifically am looking for something that can give me a similar quality to the Soundcraft Signature 22MTK pre amps or better. From listening to your demonstration of these interfaces I think that the Focusrite Clarett 8preX will be the best option for me. It seems to be the most versatile of the selection and the sound is very pleasing. Thank you for helping me with my decision and giving me food for thought. Subbed
Thank you! 8prex is great, it's just they are obsolete now. And build quality seems Focusrite seems a little inferior than that of UAD or Apogee...etc. So if you're going with Focusrite, make sure you're covered with warranty.
Wow 확실히 24"의 풍부함의 위력은 차이가 많이 나네요
네네 완전 동의 합니당 ㅎㅎㅎ
Love that sound
Thanks for the video
You bet
형 이찬양 곡이름이 생각 안나서 찾아왔어요 은혜 받고갑니다 새해복많이 받으세요!!❤❤❤
누군가 했다 하늘아 크리스탐린한테 갔어야지 왜 여기와서 은혜를 받아 ㅋㅋㅋ해피뉴이어브뤄
@@seungkeeya 감사합니다 형님!! 형님도 새해복 많이 받으시고 언제나 하나님의 평안과 축복과 감사와 기쁨이 흘러넘치는 한해가 되길 소망합니다!!
8 pre x. Solo funciona con mac? Yo uso Windows puerto c
have no idea i only use mac. Go to Focusrite homepage to check.
형 저 하늘이에요~~ 그루브 죽이네요 ㅎㅎㅎ 잘지내시죠?? 와우~~❤❤❤
스카이~~~ 뭐가 죽여 죽을래? ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 고마워염
@seungkeeya 언제나 응원합니다 형님!!! Keep on rocking brother!!!
Great sound! I might tune mine slightly lower. Personal preference.
Hi, I just ordered that specific snare. Inreally loved the 8 lug same size. But the hammered just looked so cool as well as the concept of how it effects the sound. I am in the window to still cancel incase it's not the ojlne I want. I'm excited but tbh a lil concerned. Does the hammering dry it out too much. Can you still get a fat piwerful low end sound with good snare sound as well or does it sound too warm? They all are good I believe, but taking a slight risk.
hammered all the way. don't worry to much about it being dried due to hammering. It just gives enough and it's crisp. Regular BB is great, but my choice would be forever hammered.
@@seungkeeya ty for your response and that information. That really does calm me about my decision and I'm looking forward to the way you described it. Thanks again, keep posting stuff! :)
@@lees5410 if you end up not liking it, I will buy yours haha let me know. But it can't go wrong. Hope you enjoy it.
Backing track please
all original track by Funtwo, no backing track is available
스네어 소리 저음에 에너지 있고 풍성하네요! 와이어는 어떤것 쓰셨냐요?
stock wire구요 bfsd를 써서 아마 fat한것 같네요!
@@seungkeeyabfsd가 뭔가요 ㅎㅎ
@@seungkeeya와이어는 혹시 42줄인가요 🙂🙂?
@@daynnightnoel5881 Big Fat Snare Drum
@@daynnightnoel5881 글쎼요...supraphonic stock이 20인지 14인지 잘 몰겠네요 42는 아니에요 아마 20인것 같아요
Need to rebalance the overhead and the snare on the clarett demo
volume is fairly equal. you just hear more top end boosted with AIR feature, not leveling issue. I did mention there was no proper gain staging done so keep that in mind. Get to the nuance rather than precision for this demo.
Hello budy, how are you? First of all congratulations for the video, I recently acquired a Safire Pro 40 and I'm having trouble recording drums, because even with the volume at zero it sends a lot of gain signal to my daw, so if I turn the volume up to hear what's being recorded, the signal input overflows, can you help me with this issue? thank you friend a big hug My name is Thiago Barbozza, I speak here from Brazil
the signal could get hot so try using condenser mics on ch 1 and 2 which have pad switch. For other channels, try to get attenuator at the end of your microphone or something to reduce /boost level for signal coming in. Always good to have those -10 or -20db switch on microphone. But yeah one better thing about Clarett is it has more headroom than the other. Also, try record lower (below -12db) for your whole mix. You can always boost your level, so dont work too hard to “hear what’s being recorded” but rather balance the whole mix as a decent level (again, somewhere around -18 to -12db).
8:41 8:49 8:56
Your preference?
Really nice demo of this Ludwig snare Jay! Great playing too. I've seen one of these locally, used , in this finish too... and was interested but unaware of the sound. Your demo took care of that, thank you! I'll be picking this up! Thanks again... well done!
Definitely great for money.
Cookie monster 😂
My fav
You just saved me 3k
Spare me some savings then? 😁
Great chops everyone! Well done!
What opearting system did you used for the 8preX since its discontinued ?
High sierra. It will work with any OS X
how many panels
see the description!
I prefer the Apollo. Love the Focusrite as well but to my ears the Apollo is the winner. Not a big fan of the Air function on the clarett .... to much high end boost for my taste.
Agree ok AIR, gets too harsh sometimes. Apollo is easier to work with, especially with a lot of headroom on pres and digital controls.
Nice work.
appreciate it!
Im a drummer too. Nice that you didnt overplay it, and kept it original. This songs is a good production, and the drums are point on. I think you deserve better recording equipment.
Thanks. Well this is from like 10 years ago i surely have better equipments now. This whole album is gem.
I can hear the difference(the Apollo sounds less airy but slightly warmer than then Clarett and the saffire is a clear 3rd as it sounds less clear and way less airy). The Apollo and the clarett sound very close. The Safire not so much. The neve kinda adds a tightness almost compressed sound which shouldn’t have been used unless it was going to be used for all as a fair comparison. So far the clarett is the most bang for the buck as at a certain point you’re paying for the DSP of the Apollo and it ain’t worth paying that much for some no latency plug-in use. I have an M1…I really don’t experience latency.
Okayyyyyy!!! 🔥🔥🔥
This is sick dude!!
Thanks for the comparison! If I'm recording drums would Focusrite Clarett 8PreX do a better job than the latest Focusrite Clarett+ 8Pre?
i believe 8prex is now discontinued. Clarett+ would have pres with more headroom from what I understand. But I don't have experience with newer clarett unit.
@@seungkeeya Yup it is discontinued. I live outside of the state and find it difficult to find a 8prex. The 8prex seems to be built with drummers in mind and it also has 2 adat for recording at higher sample rate while the latest Clarett+ only has one.
@Grow & Prosper if all the bells and whistles of the newer suit you and fit your need, go for it. But if you are just thinking about "future proofing", then I'd say you could go with any of the options shown in my demo. The difference is really subtle for regular amateur/semi-pro recording. But if you are looking into professional production, go for the one that is future proofed. I personally never use above 48 sample rate even for pro recording sessions, and never gets asked to record at 96k or higher.
To me, the difference was pretty small between all the units. I've been recording for 30 years, and I was quite surprised! I recently saw a Sonic Scoop video pointing out that the difference between various pres and various converters is hyped way too much, and that a microphone, instrument or room acoustics have a MUCH bigger effect on tone. I didn't notice any huge difference here in 3D clarity either, which surprised me. Any of these recordings would sound great in a mix. As far as the Scarlett going through different interfaces, that really should make zero difference, right? It's using the Scarlett's pres, clock & converters through ADAT - the interface should have no affect on the sound (which is why I use a fairly cheap interface and a high quality ADAT 8-channel pre). My guess is that any differences were just in the playing velocity. Thanks for doing this video!
I think you’re spot on. My test wasnt perfect as I have indicated, they were not gain staged properly, just matched to where it feels similar. Though like you pointed out, not a world of difference, especially considering Apollo nearly costs 30-40 times more than saffire 🤦🏻 For Scarlett test, yes, i assume only AD conversion is happening so technically it should be the same. I just wanted to test run 😁
beefy
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whole kit sounds amazing
Thanks for the compliments ❤
Amazing melodic use of the different notes. Watched many times.
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i feel like the elves from lord of the rings would play paistes.. thats how ive always thought about them
how did you know about my Legolas and Arwen??
@@seungkeeya gimli is the china over there 😂
Great drumming dude :)...nice swing :)
Thanks for doing this, great playing and drum tuning. I was surprised the Scarlett octpre sounded so different with different interfaces. I’ve been in need of more pre-amps, currently using 18i8 third generation plus some tracks from a zoom h4n. trying to figure out if I should just get a new interface like the Clarett which is a bit pricey but I will most likely go with the 18i20. What do you think?
Honestly think Saffire would work well if you still have all the legacy I/O. I'd suggest you going with the cheapest option and save up for future opportunity.
와우 드럼 사운드 환상 입니다!!!
🙏🙏🙏🙏
I’m just starting out and looking for a quality interface on a budget - I will primarily be recording classical piano and violin, with voice and some UA-cam blogging too. I have around £150 for the interface and know I can get a fairly decent beginners option, but was wondering with the price for higher end secondhand Saffire devices being in the same ballpark price wise, is it worth going down that route to future proof myself should my projects expand? I currently use an M1 Pro MacBook, and understand that I can still use FireWire via a Thunderbolt converter. Any advice would be welcomed.
if your m1 mac takes firewire via adapter, Saffire could be great option. But keep in mind, saffire has 8 pres, if you mainly record stereo tracks, I'd choose 2 or 4 ch interface, re-route your budget from number of pres to quality of pres.