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The Gigging Guitar Player
United States
Приєднався 9 жов 2017
This channel concerns anything related to being a gigging musician. Gear, methods, stories, performances, recording, tips, advice, jokes, etc. If you're doing the bar and grill tour, you'll relate.
Відео
Stupidity or Brilliance #1?
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My early days of dealing in guitars. This is an easy one.
Guitar Charting From Sheet Music
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Dealing with sheet music for dummies like me. How I do it.
Budget PAs Can Work.
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Two PAs, two different budgets. Eldorado Band: ua-cam.com/video/4hGC10zrUjI/v-deo.html Jason Craig band: ua-cam.com/video/2NWp-gPxzlQ/v-deo.html
Egnater Rebel 30. Likes and Dislikes
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Egnater Rebel 30. Likes and Dislikes
Scuffham S-Gear Update! New Compressor Pedal!
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Scuffham S-Gear Update! New Compressor Pedal!
The Best Gigging Guitar? PRS Custom 22
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The Best Gigging Guitar? PRS Custom 22
Amps. Tubes or Modeling? (Before the Tone Master.)
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Amps. Tubes or Modeling? (Before the Tone Master.)
Behringer ADA8200 Expander. Add More Headphone Mixes!
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Behringer ADA8200 Expander. Add More Headphone Mixes!
Fender Tone Master Deluxe. How Does It Compare To The Real Thing?
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Fender Tone Master Deluxe. How Does It Compare To The Real Thing?
70s Strats Are They Really That Bad?
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70s Strats Are They Really That Bad?
I’ve had a number of high end tube amps over the past 35 years and I have the Twin Tone Master and love it. I’ve played clubs with it and it sounds great. The light weight makes it even better. The really funny part to ALL of this is that the crowd won’t know the difference at all. So funny that tone is so specific and personal to us guitarists. Nobody else really cares.
1.Telecaster-Amp A-Tone Master Amp B-66 Deluxe 2. Stratocaster-Amp A-66 Deluxe Amp B-Tone Master 3. Gibson P90-Amp A-66 Deluxe Amp B-Tone Master 4. Gibson Humbuckers Amp A-66 Deluxe Amp B-Tone Master. Great Playing and thanks for doing this video. If I'm right or wrong isn't the point, I see the point as being It's VERY HARD TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE, Both Sounded Great. The Les Paul Humbuckers were the hardest for me to hear any difference in tone. I felt the Brighter, more Treble sounding one was the Tone Master, but that's just me.
I don't remember which is which. I think I listed the answer in one of these replies.
I wonder why they are limited to just one over drive and One type delay .. they can have a few other useful options and more modulation including pitch shift , wah , whammy As is, looks pretty basic to me
There are 5 or so different amps with different styles of overdrive. The pedal reacts differently with each. I find S-Gear to be the most "real amp" sounding computer simulation I've heard. It retired my Eleven Rack.
the tone master sound flat much les open than the deluxe the notes meld together on the valve amp
I see this more as a gigging amp. Out in front of the PA, you'll never know the difference. The extra features, power attenuation and direct out, are really helpful for stage use.
Over hear in the communist run Near Islamic state of uk, I’ve noticed manny tone masters for sale second hand And big discounts on new products but if it’s working for That’s grate ,you are obviously a player. Lonnie Mack used a Roland when I saw him. Ps I’m worried now if the labour Government find out I have my own views I could be doing 18 months, enjoy your new amp Graham
Sounds like some sad things going on over there. I wish you the best.
Tubes = Tone. Thanks for the demo.
Especially fresh one.
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Very good sound!
It works for me.
With the bright cap removed on the blonde, what is the tonal difference between the 2 channels, other than reverb and tremelo?
I didn't check that out while I had it here. Good question.
They sound about as different as two normal, vintage 65 Deluxe Reverbs do. I gig with my TMSR using the 1watt setting, on about 7 and love it. The weight and scalable power are amazing and, to my ears, the sound is exactly what it's supposed to be. The only thing I miss is a real spring reverb, the digital reverb is just "ok."
I agree. Speakers make a difference, too. I rarely use reverb on a gig, so I don't have a preference, I guess.
Doesn't the blond Deluxe have celestrian speakers. What speakers are in the tube Deluxe. The new tonemaster Deluxe black amps have jensen speakers. Trying to decide which of the new tonemaster amps would work bes for keyboards, and guitar given the different speaker choices, of jensen, or celestrian. One less thing to lug if possible.
Good point. I believe it had a Celestion Cream. I didn't consider that.
Bummer Bob! Looked like Shirls gold top? However 100 dollar bumper!!!😂
That turns out to have been a roughly $40k mistake.
Cant wait for the tonemaster baseman!!🎉
Is one coming? Interesting.
Who had a hundred bucks back then? Too bad.
True. I did, in my pocket that evening.
PRS never disappoints.
Agreed!
I'm happy to hear this guitar played clean....sounds really good, thank you! I'm looking at one right now on Reverb with the same finish...very handsome guitar!
I've got two of them, and love them both. Here's the other video. ua-cam.com/video/2ZDr2j4OWms/v-deo.html
@TheGiggingGuitarPlayer That's a great system Charlie invented, I'll check into that further! I appreciate the link, you did a great job with your video...I hope you still got the mustang!😄
@@rickcurtis2983 Mustang, sadly, is long gone.
Nice country twang!
It does!
I have a mid-90s model. I recognize that sound
I went with the Twin. That I can take to any sized gig and know I'm not getting lost in the mix, regardless of how loud things get. Add the DO and the power attenuator, and it's a winner.
I good choice. That amp works well for the guitarist in the band I work for these days.
Excellent thread, liking this amp more and more- thanks for sharing! 🎸👍
Thanks!
For 750 you can get a real one and BTW they're not that heavy
Heavy is a relative thing. At my age, a Princeton is heavy.
I bought one of these mki rebel 30 heads's about 8-9 years ago (wrapped in red alligator tolex) and its been one of my main amps ever since. I love it. The 1-30 watt knobs are for headroom.
Glad you like it. I use it in the studio when there is a 2nd guitarist. The direct out to the DAW makes it very convenient.
Maybe my ears don’t hear as well as they used to but to me The Tonemaster failed to measure up to the REAL Deluxe Reverb in a few areas which in my book = No Cigar. The tone was much more beefy full and punchy on the BFDR. The high volume test was No contest whatsoever. Two different leagues. The overall tone especially with reverb the BFDR sounded much more complex, better definition string to string and top to bottom. All in all the only indisputable plus of the Tonemaster is the weight. And although it wasn’t discussed the “feel” of a real BFDR is so much different and palpable than a Tonemaster. I’m sticking with my real tube amps for superior feel, tone, balls, and the magic that tubes and tubes alone produce. Life’s too short for gimmicky bs. I’m 64 and been playing since 15 years of age. I see zero need to play with modeling when I know how much better the “real” thing sounds feels and is.
From a sound man perspective, dealing with a guitarist that has both, I can't tell the difference out front, other than volume wise it's a lot easier for me to get him in the mix when he uses the TM. He uses the power drop thing set to like 12w or so. I see these amps mainly as a good stage substitute, light weight, and you're not knocking your vintage DR around.
In the context of a mix, impossible to differentiate between the two. In Home practice, TM all the way. In terms of reliability TM all the way. In terms of repair ability probably DR, but depends on the exact version. In terms of snobbery colitis DR, all the way. Portability, TM. Value for money, TM. In terms of stress at the gig, DR. The DR holds its value better. For me the TM would win hands down when all things considered.
If I were still a "gigging guitar player" and didn't already have a room full of great tube amps, I'd have a TM.
Paul says if they don't sell...He stops production !!!! he's a little weird that way .... i think its Dumb... but he's kind if a wise ass anyway ..
I guess that's the business man side. I'm glad I found this one.
PRS SE Custom 22's where great ,,sorry i had sold mine ,,, i don't like the 24's i sold them all .. But i just found a brand new old stock on Moore guitars Mira SE 22 vintage cherry ...coming today,,,, great deal....
Excellent. Hope you love it
Who isn't! I forget who won.
He can’t go wrong with either team.
Good Point.
I have several Fender tube amps' Had spent a little time playing the Princeton Reverb TM and Deluxe Reverb TM at band practices....smaller spaces at friends/ other musicians practice areas....not enough time to get the real feel of the amps. Was mainly looking for a lighter weight grab and go amp to replace my 65 Deluxe Reverb and 68 Vibrolux Reverb amps instead of having to use my 65 Princeton Reverb which doesn't have enough clean headroom to gig with.... without having to mic up.... decided to go with the 65 Deluxe Reverb TM.... brought it home and immediately noticed it didn't have the response/feel as my tube version....new amp.... decided to spend some time playing with/tweaking the EQ section and let the speaker loosing up a bit.... did that 2/3 hours a day for a couple of weeks and it gradually started improving.... still not quite the feel/response as my tube amps mostly playing at lower volumes/clean sounds. Decided it was time to put it on stage and give it a go' let it open up.... after the first set I plugged into my 65 deluxe reverb tube version and used that to finish out the night. The TM version didn't have the same feel/response as the tube version....tried it again the next night and was the same thing. Still looking for a lighter weight grab and go amp' I took it back to where I'd bought it for a refund and noticed a black star debut 50 floor model comb amp.... was less than $250.00 thought to myself no way but decided to give it a try and ended up bringing it home with me. More features and better feel/response than the TM deluxe. Can be bought new for less than $300.00 compared to the TM deluxe.
I've never used one on stage. The last few years I've been mainly doing sound man gigs. From that perspective, they sound great out front and are much easier to deal with volume wise than the tube versions. The guitarist in one band used a vintage Deluxe for decades. He's been using a TM Twin for the last two years and loves it. It is a subjective thing, to each his own. My favorite stage amps are a Dr. Z Carmen Ghia for country, and a 65Amps London Pro for rock. I get around the weight thing by using a head, small cab combination.
truths.... tonemaster overpriced,,, and digitalis
I wouldn't call it overpriced compared to a vintage DR, or even the hand wired new ones. I' haven't tired any of the circuit card reissues.
Nice Teac!
Thanks!
Excellent 👍🎶
Thanks Greggie!
Switching from my Orange CR120 to the Fender Deluve TM. So excited
Hope you like it, Thanks for watching.
Hi! I have the Orange CR60, and I'm thinking the same thing , though I love the tones on my Orange I think it might be a nice upgrade, did you get the TM?
@@diegomedel1359 I rarely gig out anymore, and already have a plethora of amps, so I have not purchased one. When I started this channel in 2016 I would have bought one.
My guess is that all the auxes were assigned to a common DCA, and if that DCA was either muted or turned all the way down that would explain why you had level on all the aux mix masters, but no audio coming out of the XLR outputs.
That would do it, but I don't think that was the case. There were certainly no aux masters assigned to DCAs in the show I called up. We had another tech look at it as well. I think most likely it was the beer bath it took on the previous gig.
@@TheGiggingGuitarPlayer do the aux outputs work now?
@@user-jx3jp3gb4x Neither we, nor the repair tech we went to could get them to work. We sold it it and bought a new one. This one lives in a road case, and is kept away from wayward beer bottles. I don't know if it ever worked again. It was an "as is" sale with full disclosure.
@@TheGiggingGuitarPlayer thanks for getting back :)
Very well done! Glad to see you have paper as a backup; dated but effective!
Thanks! Often paper is easier to deal with than tables, tablet holders, power supplies, etc.
interesting, wit the Tele I preferred Amp1 (TM) as amp 2 sounded flatter, for all the others I picked the DR as it just had more sparkle, more life. So I score 1 for the TM and 3 for the DR... in isolation, without the comparison, I would likely just want to add a little top end to the TM, and wouldn't know. Great comparison, how was it in the room? More or less obvious?
Thanks! In the room the most noticeable thing was that the DR could get louder than the TM, even at the 100w setting on the TM. Tube watts are somehow different. The TM is also more compressed, which is good or bad depending on your taste. I did prefer the nice digital reverb on the TM over the spring reverb in my DR, again a personal taste thing.
@TheGiggingGuitarPlayer that's useful information. I generally just grab a Pro Junior IV for gigs (Chicago Blues in the main), and seldom get it above 4 or 5 on the volume, so use a Nobels ODR-1 to give a little hair when the guitar vol is full. I'd been thinking about a Princeton as likely similar vol to the Pro Junior, but the TM DR with the attenuator is very interesting for my needs... Given the choice, would you go... Princeton Reverb Deluxe Reverb with attenuator Or TM DR? Guessing very little difference in feel when playing, be interested to know which you would purchase.
@@joncurle5407 At my age (73) I'd be using the TM Deluxe. I've been running sound for a band where the guitarist uses a TM Twin. He's running it on the 12w setting and it sounds as good as the vintage Deluxe he used before. At least it does out front. I most likely would go for the blond TM Deluxe. My last guitar gigs were back in 2021 and I used a 65Amps London Pro head for the rock band, and a Dr. Z Carmen Ghia head for the country gig. I used a small 1x12 cab with both. If I were carrying stuff every weekend, it likely would be the TM Deluxe. That entire amp likely weighs less than the Carmen Ghia head alone. I know that Uncle Larry says, "Good tone is heavy and hard to carry." but at my age some compromises are necessary.
@@TheGiggingGuitarPlayer thanks, I really appreciate your thoughts
hope youre doing well
I am. Hope you are as well. Thanks
This
Mackie mixer?
Yep. DL32S
Great information. I have always preferred In-Ear monitoring due to the excessive stage noise that monitors introduce - especially if the stage walls are not acoustically treated. Am I wrong?
In ears make it way easier for me. No wedge feedback to worry about and the guys do their own mix.
@@TheGiggingGuitarPlayer Exactly!
Vale state is a Marshall
AH! You are correct. I forget the name of the Vox thingy.
@@TheGiggingGuitarPlayerValvetronix.
Im a working musician every weekend and i use a tonemaster deluxe reverb or flyrig direct, This is the best bang for buck sounding amp ive ever used and light too😁👍😊
The guitarist in the band I work for uses a TM Twin. Now that he is using in-ears, he sets it for 12w. That super helps the out front mix, and it sounds excellent.
Hello, nice playing and review! Could you tell if the pickups are screwed to the body or to the Pick guard? Thank you in advance.
I'll have to have a look. I suspect it is the pick guard, but I'm not sure.
it's close but a wee bit compressed sounding over the real thing. Pretty nice though.
Definitely more compressed than the DR.
I’m curious if you use compression on your vocals. If so, do you use compression on individual channels, as a subgroup or some other way? Thanks
just on the individual channels.
Thanks. I am going considering adding some and will follow your lead.
When it comes to 3 on 3 headstocks the most important question is which one stayed in tune. Unless of course you just sit at home and noodle. If you’re a gigging musician then tuning stability is the first and most important requirement.
I've used both on stage without tuning issues. I do prefer the smoother modern machines on the PRS.
@@TheGiggingGuitarPlayer I've played an Epiphone Les Paul for years as a rhythm guitarist without issue. The minutes i became a lead player doing loads of bluesy bends it became a huge problem. Eventually switched to the Silver Sky.
@@ajdaames I need to try one of those out. That and the SE DGT.
I love he TM deluxe. Finally found a perfect go to amp. Best clean, low gain sounds and pedals work well. I love playing in straight. Usually I’m a pedal guy but this I can noodle all day.
Lot's of players agree!
Great story and advice
Thanks for watching.
I had virtually the same thing happen with my Mackie DL32S. I took to have it serviced and they never could find the problem. I bought and keep the 16 channel version with us at all times but luckily haven’t needed it!
We never did figure it out. Sold the unit and bought a new one.
Where do you set the volume on the xlr out dial? Great tone!
Mine is set around 1PM or so. Thanks.
My 3year old 4 bolt Mexican Strat was so disappointing..bad cut nut and high E too close to edge, still not right
Sorry to hear that. Everyone seems much happier with the Japanese Fenders.
U need to think and remove this video.