General Bradley didn’t really like General Patton very much and it shows. This movie really didn’t glorify Patton all that much. His finest hour, and what really made him a ledgend, was what he and his army did during the Battle of the Bulge.
actually, this scene was done for dramatic effect. patton asked alexander to take palermo and alexander agreed, as he was as annoyed by monty's slow advance.
You can tell Bradley was the technical advisor for the film… he had temporary amnesia in that he was all in favor of the Americans disobeying orders because he hated Montgomery’s guts
I don’t know. He got a top drawer deputy commander, he made sure his officers were fed early in the morning, and he had some critique on sleeping arrangements and barracks decor.
Watching this movie efore the army I saw patton as a badass. Now that I've been in I see him as an asshole. Imagine walking into a mechanic shop asking why the soldiers uniform is covered in grease. Jee sir, maybe it's because I work.
i don't think patton was that dense. certain special jobs he would know that's just part of hte job and it would be impossible to maintain cleanliness or appearance.
@@joeswanson733 he wanted a comic panel shut down because it portrayed soldiers without a clean shave and clean uniforms. Despite being good for morale
At the St. Lo Breakout, Bradley was Patton's superior. He had a brilliant military mind and was loved and liked by all the soldiers who served with him. Did not seek the spotlight like Patton and Montgomery. Quiet, unassuming , serious and dedicated to the job he was trained for. A soldier's soldier. As the reporter said to Patton in the film, he was called the GI General. I believe he rose to 5-Star General before his death.
Patton's George C. Scott #1 quote in this whole movie - HE'S GOING TO BE SKINNED! And that's the bottom line cause Stone Cold said so (from 976-CREOLEMAN).
Ahh yes, Patton, the master of wasting the soldier's time on inane barracks niceties like ties, clean uniforms and shined shoes and fining them for it( in a time where they made SHIT to take home) because it makes him look like a hardass. I also read that he refused to let his tankers strap on additional armor onto their tanks to defeat German superior guns because he didn't like how it 'looked'. The more I read about Patton the more I think he was a propaganda general thru and thru. REAL commanders don't care how you look if you can fight. The Americans (incl Patton) had dismal performance in North Africa and it wasn't because their shoes weren't shiny. Monty, couldn't give two shits whether his troops were in correct uniform as long as they performed and he CARRIED the African campaign.
F.M. Montgomery did carry the day in Africa. There was one key battle (portrayed in the first part of the movie), where Patton's forces, though a minor engagement, caused F.M. Rommel to change the thrust of his forces and encounter Montgomery directly. Africa was Patton's first combat assignment since WWI, and his success in reconstituting a dishevelled and demoralized force into a worthy combat unit contributed to his assignment to the Sicily campaign, where he outmaneuvered and outsped both the Italian/German composite forces, and Montgomery's British Regulars. Then there's the 'Battle of the Bulge', the 'Black Swan event' of the European campaign. "Nothing succeeds like success."
I guess you lack the mental ability to grasp the connection between extra weight, fuel consumption and range. That's why Patton didn't let the tankers add things like sand bags. As for Montgomery he was a bigger hindrance to the allied war effort than the Germans
@@stuglenn1112 You're an idiot. A sand bag or ten makes NO DIFFERENCE to the fuel economy of a 40 ton tank and you trying to say so is laughable. It's also not why Patton did it. He did it for the same reason he required ties. He liked how it LOOKED. As for Monty, I see you bought into the bullshit that our propaganda peddled. Read about Patton and Metz or Patton's antics in Sicily.
@@HuntingTarg Yes Monty and the 8th Army attacked from the south and Rommel with what limited forces he had went south to stop him leaving another force under other commanders at EL Gutter with Patton thinking he had defeat the famous German.
Yeah, and Patton was well known for enforcing numerous of these fines throughout the war. Makes you wonder who was getting the money... There is one famous Willy and Joe cartoon from the war where they come driving up to the Third Army Boundary and there is a large sign detailing all the infractions and fines. Willy says something like, 'On second thought,let's detour thru the German lines". Have zero respect for the rich Patton going after poor soldiers
@@jamesbutler8821 Money doesn't matter when life and death are the stakes. It'a quite true Patton didn't comprehend the day-to-day struggle of the common infantryman: He had an aristocratic background & view of life, and this was brought out in personal moments of the movie. ----- Patton being a bible-reader in an Anglocentric culture, sometimes I think his ideas about reincarnation (mostly regarding himself) were personal conceits. I don't think that this reflects on his effectiveness, but on the divergent mentality that produced it.
"Skinned" was a West Point term referring to demerits. I doubt Patton would have used it in this context. What would it have referred to? Court martial? Probably not. Summary fines (like with the cook)? This was before the UCMJ existed, so "Article 15" wasn't a thing yet.
A successful commanding officer must have *GOD* on his side: *G* ood *O* rder & *D* iscipline _The Art of War_ , sec. 1 ; 'preliminary considerations.'
@@charlesphillips430 because in Pattons hey day that was how things were done. But by the time Patton had rose to General things weren't how they used to be. These younger troops probably would say thr same thing during Vietnam, it's not how it used to be
@@charlesphillips430it’s called standards! When I was training Soldiers they would complain about cleaning. I would always say if you question me know, what are you going to do down range and I say get down? Question me why? We train as we fight and we hold standards and discipline to the highest degree. You would understand if you served…
[Father]: "I was interested to hear that you keep a Bible by your bed." [Gen. Patton]: "Yes, that's right." [Father]: " Do you, find time to read it?" [Gen. Patton]: "Yes sir I do: Every Goddamn day." "Redeeming the time, because the days are evil." (Ephesians 5:16, KJV) When one studies history one becomes aware how tame and 'vanilla' 20th & 21st century cultural standards are: There are portions of the Bible that by today's standards would be R- or even X-rated, esp. if translated into Cinema. Case in point: _The Passion of the Christ._
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Bradley would have been relieved of command if not for Ilk.
General Bradley didn’t really like General Patton very much and it shows. This movie really didn’t glorify Patton all that much. His finest hour, and what really made him a ledgend, was what he and his army did during the Battle of the Bulge.
Such a classic...great actors.
Amazing
actually, this scene was done for dramatic effect. patton asked alexander to take palermo and alexander agreed, as he was as annoyed by monty's slow advance.
Up yours Smith!
They should gone with Patton plan for the invasion of Sicily. It would have worked better.
You can tell Bradley was the technical advisor for the film… he had temporary amnesia in that he was all in favor of the Americans disobeying orders because he hated Montgomery’s guts
Especially after Eisenhower took his Army away during the bulge....and gave it to Monty
It mystifies me why he did it because he didn’t really like Patton either. But then I guess they weren’t ever going to make a movie about him.
he was talking about reincarnation. same soul in many different bodies ( guises) over the years.
What's a " bordelo " ?
Bordello- Same as cathouse, brothel etc.
Private had malaria with a high fever.
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How do you not call the room to attention when a general walks in?
Because the soldiers too relax and forgot everything taught from the training school..
My words exactly!
What's the sense of putting up such short clips??
"Just a Reconnaissance in Force" ... 😅
Messina!
You gotta be crazy having a barracks like that when a General is walking around. He should have written up every officer and NCO
To bad they never listened to Patton
How to make friends on the first day of your new job.
I don’t know. He got a top drawer deputy commander, he made sure his officers were fed early in the morning, and he had some critique on sleeping arrangements and barracks decor.
TERRIBLE audio and video quality!
Let the record show that 20 bucks then is the equivalent of over 400 dollars today.
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What's a record?
I think the cook is no need to come out and he got $20 fine, is a large sum of money at that time, 1943
Watching this movie efore the army I saw patton as a badass. Now that I've been in I see him as an asshole. Imagine walking into a mechanic shop asking why the soldiers uniform is covered in grease. Jee sir, maybe it's because I work.
i don't think patton was that dense. certain special jobs he would know that's just part of hte job and it would be impossible to maintain cleanliness or appearance.
@@joeswanson733 he wanted a comic panel shut down because it portrayed soldiers without a clean shave and clean uniforms. Despite being good for morale
Sobel would be A1 in his books. But till he lost the grids on map.
He would have been skinned.
I'd go AWOL from that asshole.
No volume?
2022-08-31 ... Thank you for posting this ... I personally kinda needed to hear it ...
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Great movie!
Shined shoes, a TIE to enter the mess joint? I'd tell Patty where to put it!
You’d be on latrine duty.
And you would be skinned.
Are you ome of those guys who almost joined the military be din't because you would have just laughed at a drill sergeant?
Those nutty ideas helped keep Patton at 3-stars the rest of the war while Bradley went from 2-stars to 4.
But who remembers Bradley, Patton is an international icon.
At the St. Lo Breakout, Bradley was Patton's superior. He had a brilliant military mind and was loved and liked by all the soldiers who served with him. Did not seek the spotlight like Patton and Montgomery. Quiet, unassuming , serious and dedicated to the job he was trained for. A soldier's soldier. As the reporter said to Patton in the film, he was called the GI General. I believe he rose to 5-Star General before his death.
Patton's George C. Scott #1 quote in this whole movie - HE'S GOING TO BE SKINNED! And that's the bottom line cause Stone Cold said so (from 976-CREOLEMAN).
Should have had a seen where the poor cook is indeed skinned and made into a pair of fine boots.
@@davidsheets8932 Excellent!
Absolutely mesmerizing performance!!
Lotsa soiled boxers that morning...
Ahh yes, Patton, the master of wasting the soldier's time on inane barracks niceties like ties, clean uniforms and shined shoes and fining them for it( in a time where they made SHIT to take home) because it makes him look like a hardass. I also read that he refused to let his tankers strap on additional armor onto their tanks to defeat German superior guns because he didn't like how it 'looked'. The more I read about Patton the more I think he was a propaganda general thru and thru. REAL commanders don't care how you look if you can fight. The Americans (incl Patton) had dismal performance in North Africa and it wasn't because their shoes weren't shiny. Monty, couldn't give two shits whether his troops were in correct uniform as long as they performed and he CARRIED the African campaign.
F.M. Montgomery did carry the day in Africa. There was one key battle (portrayed in the first part of the movie), where Patton's forces, though a minor engagement, caused F.M. Rommel to change the thrust of his forces and encounter Montgomery directly. Africa was Patton's first combat assignment since WWI, and his success in reconstituting a dishevelled and demoralized force into a worthy combat unit contributed to his assignment to the Sicily campaign, where he outmaneuvered and outsped both the Italian/German composite forces, and Montgomery's British Regulars. Then there's the 'Battle of the Bulge', the 'Black Swan event' of the European campaign. "Nothing succeeds like success."
I guess you lack the mental ability to grasp the connection between extra weight, fuel consumption and range. That's why Patton didn't let the tankers add things like sand bags. As for Montgomery he was a bigger hindrance to the allied war effort than the Germans
@@stuglenn1112 You're an idiot. A sand bag or ten makes NO DIFFERENCE to the fuel economy of a 40 ton tank and you trying to say so is laughable. It's also not why Patton did it. He did it for the same reason he required ties. He liked how it LOOKED. As for Monty, I see you bought into the bullshit that our propaganda peddled. Read about Patton and Metz or Patton's antics in Sicily.
@@HuntingTarg Yes Monty and the 8th Army attacked from the south and Rommel with what limited forces he had went south to stop him leaving another force under other commanders at EL Gutter with Patton thinking he had defeat the famous German.
@@jamesbutler8821 He felt it was bad for morale as well I read books on that were there pics of him tearing into tankers with their Tanks sand bags.
$20 was a lot of money for an enlisted man then.
It's was a soldiers paycheck for the month.
Yeah, and Patton was well known for enforcing numerous of these fines throughout the war. Makes you wonder who was getting the money... There is one famous Willy and Joe cartoon from the war where they come driving up to the Third Army Boundary and there is a large sign detailing all the infractions and fines. Willy says something like, 'On second thought,let's detour thru the German lines". Have zero respect for the rich Patton going after poor soldiers
@@jamesbutler8821 Money doesn't matter when life and death are the stakes. It'a quite true Patton didn't comprehend the day-to-day struggle of the common infantryman: He had an aristocratic background & view of life, and this was brought out in personal moments of the movie. ----- Patton being a bible-reader in an Anglocentric culture, sometimes I think his ideas about reincarnation (mostly regarding himself) were personal conceits. I don't think that this reflects on his effectiveness, but on the divergent mentality that produced it.
@@HuntingTarg Patton was a dick who was the most over rated American general of ww2
@@HuntingTarg 👍Good Comment !
Obviously the cook had no pride in the uniform sad
He's lucky Patton didn't reassign him to the infantry.
@@Experiment632the infantry isn’t a punishment it’s a privilege
Yes, he thought he was going to get on the General's good side.
Cookie got what he deserved! What a fat slob.
Typical upper-level management prick, worried about all the wrong goddamn things.
When Patton said skinned I felt that
"Skinned" was a West Point term referring to demerits. I doubt Patton would have used it in this context. What would it have referred to? Court martial? Probably not. Summary fines (like with the cook)? This was before the UCMJ existed, so "Article 15" wasn't a thing yet.
You missed the part with the sleeping soldier.....the only soldier who knew what he was doing.
Who the hell's kicking me in the BUTT!?
Oh sorry!.... um, sir!
Great exchange
Yes, but I think he wanted to stay under the 3-min. traditional limit for Fair Use. It is a great scene, that builds on the previous two shown here.
Long as he wasn't 21st century "woke"!🤪 Jman
Of course, it's a bordello....if the soldiers had their way.
These young soldiers are looking at the chance of imminent death. There's no time, and order and discipline will save lives.
A successful commanding officer must have *GOD* on his side: *G* ood *O* rder & *D* iscipline _The Art of War_ , sec. 1 ; 'preliminary considerations.'
Hard enough to be there why did Patton have to make it harder! A. H.
@@charlesphillips430 because in Pattons hey day that was how things were done. But by the time Patton had rose to General things weren't how they used to be. These younger troops probably would say thr same thing during Vietnam, it's not how it used to be
@@charlesphillips430it’s called standards! When I was training Soldiers they would complain about cleaning. I would always say if you question me know, what are you going to do down range and I say get down? Question me why? We train as we fight and we hold standards and discipline to the highest degree. You would understand if you served…
Patton himself a master of the profane appreciated the pinup.
[Father]: "I was interested to hear that you keep a Bible by your bed." [Gen. Patton]: "Yes, that's right." [Father]: " Do you, find time to read it?" [Gen. Patton]: "Yes sir I do: Every Goddamn day." "Redeeming the time, because the days are evil." (Ephesians 5:16, KJV) When one studies history one becomes aware how tame and 'vanilla' 20th & 21st century cultural standards are: There are portions of the Bible that by today's standards would be R- or even X-rated, esp. if translated into Cinema. Case in point: _The Passion of the Christ._
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Nowadays it would be a male pinned up there.
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