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I absolutely agree. Great comment.

Same , don't understand all these people getting their knickers in a twist about not being tubeless, I'd rather have tubes offroad and also carry a can of tyre fix, I've used it before and the tyre was fixed in a minute and stayed inflated for thousands of kms after, faster than plugging a tubeless tyre.

​@@silverdale3207 TRO should do a video on Tyre Fix. Seems a lot of people don't know about it.

I personally prefer tubed tires.This Tyre fix you mentioned is it made by Wynn's?

@@socaladventure2340 Yes

Hey thank you for helping me feel sane! I know the tenere is heavier and should feel heavier - and i totally don't understand why, but for me, it doesn't. I have no reason to make that up and I'm happy to hear that your experience is similar. it's a rare take for sure. I agree with your take on going against the narrative so-to-speak, a big reason I thought of doing this video was due to how different my opinion is than what most of everyone else has experienced and shared. Your take on the tenere and its suspension is exactly where I've landed, and you got (what I think) is the best year. I certainly love my tuareg more than I think I could ever love the tenere, but that doesn't mean the tuareg is truly the best choice for me or everyone else out there. Thanks a bunch for your input and sharing your experience - and congratulations on an excellent bike

lol, thank you for this input. I know there are so many factors that go into the way a motorcycle's weight and agility feel, despite not being able to fully understand how or why. The tenere always surprises me and leaves me so much happier and more satisfied than I expected to be from it, and I think it's partially because of how many accounts there are of people claiming it feels worse than the tuareg in every way. That giant dirtbike feel is special to me, and I love it. The reality is, I deeply love and appreciate both motorcycles for exactly what they are and I'm not particularly loyal to either choice - I think i'd have a hard time loving any motorcycle more than I do my tuareg, but I certainly have an easy time loving the tenere as well

I think you're right. At the time I bought my Tuareg, I didn't completely understand what I was getting into. I had money and space for a single motorcycle, and I landed on the Tuareg as the best choice for riding to some offroad spots and checking out some lesser traveled areas in Colorado. As I've gotten further into it, I do see a street legal dirtbike and a secondary road-oriented motorcycle as the actual endgame. I'm far from being able to have that loadout, but it's now in mind and is the current goal. The Tuareg (and other middleweight ADV bikes) are quite a lot to handle when the going gets rough. There's some fun in the added challenge, but it's certainly not for everyone and can often be a pretty dreadful experience

I have 4 bikes, Concours 14, Beta 390 Dual Sport, T7, and KTM 1290 SAS. T7 gets used 90% of the time. I wouldn't want to ride my Beta 30 miles to my favorite fire road/ 2 track. T7 makes quick work of it road miles and is a blast on the dirt. There's all sorts of ways to ride bikes, you choose the right tool for the job.

I have multiple obligations and can only afford one bike right now. Can I buy and own two bikes? Yeah, I have a well paying job. I still have to be responsible with my money though and balance available funds with all my other goals, responsibility, and timing.

I actually really enjoy the challenge of throwing around an adv offroad, but definitely eould t be taking one on windy single track.

@@TROVids Thanks for your reply! I live in a remote section of Colorado and awesome off-road trails are 15 minutes from my garage. For those I enjoy a 2023 KTM 350 EXC-F. For awesome paved 2 track roads to easier off-road adventures I ride my 2017 KTM 1090R. We all have different skills, needs, and finances. I began riding nearly 60 years ago, and have enjoyed a variety of motorcycles, but now simply love the freedom to choose what roads make sense on any given day. Thanks again for this channel and your videos!

Heck yeah - congratulations on the excellent bike (and the eventual next one you'll get). While I think people are way too harsh on the tenere when comparing it to the tuareg, I do agree with all of the suspension compaints. I would have expected yamaha to nail it there, but it seems they know most folks will keep the thing on streets. Now that you mentioned it, I realize that I have never really put any thought to the steering range of the tenere, despite having experienced trying to turn it around in a narrow trail. For whatever it's worth, if I were truly in the market for my next middleweight adv - I would 100% be waiting for the tuareg 660 rally. While I don't think it's the most practical choice, its looks and upgrades over the standard tuareg are extremely attractive to me. We unfortunately don't get the world raid over here in the states, but that's a compelling choice for sure

I'm happy to read your mention of 6th gear being too low for long distance travel. That's one of my biggest complaints about the bike, but I don't want to regear and stretch out 1-3 any further than they already are. I haven't ridden the tenere enough to get a good feel for the gearing, but the very short first may explain part of that precision feel I always get from it. I was a little disappointed with the transalp, mainly because i was under the impression that they held back on the offroad and adv potential due to fear of cannibalizing africa twin sales, but I think my perspective is way too biased towards judging heavily on offroad capability. If offroad capability is important to someone, they transalp 750 is still a phenomenal base - and the reality of adv riding for most people (including myself) is a lot of time on the roads (often at high speeds) and it seems like the transalp is very comfortable there. I kind of miss my street tires on the tuareg and am thinking in the long run, I'd like to get my Tuareg less off road focused and add in a dual sport for the harder stuff - but I am always back and forth on this since I also want to turn the tuareg into an aggressive offroad beast. Congratulation on all of the excellent bikes - I definitely envy the variety you've been able to experience (and choose from) Thank you for the input and kind words

I appreciate that input - it's not what i was going for. I always love riding the tenere much more than i expect to, and because my thoughts and experience with the tenere have been so different than what most people seem to experience, I felt inclined to share my thoughts in a dedicated video. As for my conclusive thoughts on the tuareg (as an owner who's put their adv bike through hell), I know that the tuareg is a better bike in just about every measurable way - with the tenere's clearest advantage being in price and record of reliability. I think the Tuareg is a better choice for most riders looking between the two of them, and I think most will experience the tuareg to be a better road bike as well as a better offroad bike. I think the tuareg is absolutely phenomenal and I believe it is the best value (and best jack of all trades) middleweight adventure bike. But that doesn't mean I can't love and appreciate the tenere's place in the market as well as what it's done (and is still doing) for the collective interest in adventure riding. Your comment has made me wish I were more explicit about my thoughts on the Tuareg, but this video was supposed to be primarily focused on the tenere. I do think if i had my tuareg in front of me and did a reverse video, it would come off as me thinking the tenere is trash. I will try to be more mindful in future discussions and uploads - thank you for sharing your thoughts and perspective on this.. I didn't intend on coming off that way. I am in love with my Tuareg and I think I tried to hard to push that bias aside to highlight that the tenere is also an excellent and special machine that deserves a bit more credit than people seem to give it when compared to the Tuareg. If i ever log a long trip in on the tenere, or take it on some of the difficult rides i've had on the tuareg, i will revisit this topic (if i note a bigger discrepancy in the feel than I had prior to this recording)

T7 IS A GREAT BIKE, HAD ONE OF THE FIRST ONES MADE. BEEN ABUSED FROM DAY ONE AND STILL GOING

I understand and agree with your take, and I have had the same experience with everything I've heard (except for one in-person conversation I've had with another rider). I'm well aware that i'm almost entirely alone in experiencing the tenere this way, but it's consistently been a shock i've faced when riding the bikes back to back. It may be related to me being a lighter-than-average rider, it may be related to only riding teneres with less than half a tank of fuel, it may be a preference for the geometry - i don't know what it is, but it's what i've experienced every time. I'm thinking it's down to the geometry of the bike and it being a better fit for my specific body/build/strengths. I'm quite bummed for the 2025 changes and think it's really silly that cruise control will be absent despite the switch to ride by wire. I think the 2024 will go down as the US's gem of the tenere models we got here. Thank you for your input on this - I do believe we have the same thoughts about my specific thoughts on this, and part of the reason i'm sharing this is due to how contrary it is to what i've heard time and time again about the bikes. I love both bikes, but they truly are very different machines

@TROVids There are exceptions to everything. Each to his own. I have yet to ride both, because it is very difficult to get test rides where I live. I have sat on both, and wheeled them around, finding the Tuareg better for my short legs, and easier to balance as it is not as top heavy as the Tenere. I do want tubeless tires, and do want cruise control. I do appreciate the reliability of the Tenere, so my decision, between the two, will depend on actually riding both, back to back. But given their height, and weight, I would not venture beyond a gravel dirt track on either. So, since the Tuareg is said to be a better road bike, I am leaning towards that bike. But, thanks for your take on the issue.

@@davidmallia628 aaah that makes plenty of sense! I do think that most people (by far) will prefer the Tuareg on and off road - if we put aside cost and perception of reliability. I do think Aprilia has a solid warranty that can alleviate a lot of the reliability concerns, especially for someone who's going to pack some serious miles onto the bike during its warranty period. I very much believe most people will also find the Tuareg to have a lighter feel - I should have made the distinction very clear in this video, that while I find the Tenere to feel lighter and more agile, I know that it's not and I know that most riders are unlikely to feel that way. I definitely don't want to mislead buyers with my experience and relatively odd take of the tenere (when compared to the vast majority of other riders), so I will pin this comment and discussion to the top for some extra visibility. The Tuareg is definitely a better road bike when it comes to longer trips and rides - the positioning, wind protection, tech and more stable feel are noticeable and appreciated. For whatever my take is worth, it does sound like the Tuareg is a better choice for you - especially if you don't end up experiencing any issues or failures. It is an amazing do-it-all bike that doesn't feel like it makes a ton of compromise in any major area. it's not just a jack of all trades, it's a jack that's good at all of its trades

The one expert you seem to have conveniently dismissed is AReimann1. I haven't heard him even mention the Taureg....lets face the facts.....The Taureg is a great bike, so is the T7...you can nit pick till you are blue in the face, it won't change the fact that you can not dismiss..or in your case....undervalue...the importance of reliability. Ya the Taureg is a great bike..its just not as reliable as....probably anything coming out of Japan....Now think about that....breaking down for me is the first, and last thing on my mind when I throw a leg over my bikes (japanese brands for 50 years now). "in all aspects except reliability reputation"...listen to yourself....A machine that might just break down on you....VS, a machine that is not likely to break...at all....

Maybe one day you can't learn how to change a flat tubeless tire....it will be good for you.

Yeah, I don't feel great about openly sharing that opinion on here but I wanted to be honest with my experience on the thing. It strikes me every time I ride a tenere and I always feel wrong for having that opinion when everyone in the world seems to agree it feels heavier/more sluggish than the tuareg - but I've experienced this every time i've ridden the bikes back to back (on road and off). one of my theories is that I've only ridden teneres with less than half a tank of fuel, so maybe that's why the top heaviness hasn't been getting to me. I did recently run into another rider in person (who rides enduro and sometimes dabbles in adv bikes).. he had ridden both the tenere and the tuareg and also found the tenere to feel lighter.. but that just makes two of us vs the thousands of riders who have openly felt differently about the bikes

@@TROVids I could not understand the tuareg hype really. I did proper test rides with both & felt exactly the same. I think the reason is rider height and experience. I'm tall (190cm) and the slim shape of the T7 does make it feel lighter than many 200kg once you are rolling. When manoeveruing in the garage the T7 is very tippy compared to the tuareg.

Oh awesome! This is the first time I'm hearing of the bracket serving as a solid hold for the fuel cap - I currently jam the cap between my riding gloves, the bars and the airbox during fill-ups, but I still drop it more than I'd like to. That's an unexpected benefit, but it makes me even more excited to eventually get that kit - thank you!!

Hey thank you a ton for all of this! I hope you enjoyed at least some of the riding to (and from) this spot. I was in over my head for most of that ride but was convinced that it was just about to get easier every step of the way - but it only got harder lol. Thank you for your feedback on the Tuareg talk presentation - I for sure agree with you. The reason I'm so far away is because my tripod is only about 1 foot tall and putting it further away helps level out the angle of the shot and capture some beautiful scenery instead of just the sky. In the last one where I was super far away, I actually had the tripod on top of my helmet, but it was still a challenge since I was standing up a very steep hill. Looking back, in the case of this video, I could have positioned the bike differently and put the tripod/camera on the big rock that's in the shot. Realistically, I should (and will) just get a collapsible (proper/taller) tripod so I can stand in the same state that the camera is in lol. Holy crap on all the mods you've got - I'm certainly envious of that (especially since you are only missing the two mods that I am least concerned with at the moment). I've been dead set on the HDB kit since late last year and didn't think I could possible be more sure that was the right choice, but what you shared about your barkbusters really locks me in for the HDBs (and allows me to communicate your experience to other tuareg owners). I love the camel adv guys and all of their stuff - it's awesome to know their bolts are actually cheaper than other options since I would have assumed theirs were just as if not more expensive than other options. I just got back from watching your exhaust video and I'm blown away by that sound. It is dramatically different and sounds more like a full system than a slipon. Thank you for putting that on my radar. Great input on the filter as well - i'm pretty tight for cash at the moment (and for the foreseeable future), so i'll likely just get one when I get around to it, but I will throw in some of the filter skins - I wasn't originally planning to, but it sounds like there's not much of a reason not to - and plenty of reason to. Thank you for the excellent comment and all of the part details. Having access to information like this from an owner like you is like a cheat code

@ You’re very welcome. I’m definitely more mod happy than most but really it’s just a lot of small stuff that really adds up to a more robust overall bike. I tried to prioritize protection mods first then eliminate all the weak points that might leave me stranded (pivot bolts, kick stand bypass, case savers, shifter, folding brake pedal tip etc). The recent exhaust upgrade is the most expensive single thing I’ve done to the bike outside of the AXP skid plate. Just another note on the pre filters for the Unifilter; from an ease of use standpoint the Unifilter pre filters are the winner since they just sit on top of the main filter. The PC Racing skins I’m running requires you to completely remove the main filter to install the skin. Just food for thought when you get around to that purchase.

Hey thank you! I'm definitely planning for a unifiliter and will 100% take you up on the opportunity to bug you if I have trouble landing one!! I have seen the pre-filter (if i'm thinking of the right thing) and wasn't originally considering it, but it sounds like it will be worth it if I'll get more life out of the actual filter before cleaning is required

@TROVids 100% pre filters are a good idea both economically and for engine protection

Holy crap this is a wealth of info. I want to reply to each point individually. 1. I had not at all considered trying to protect the exposed axle threads but am now realizing how easy it will be to screw them up by dropping the bike the right (or wrong) way on some rocks 2. I don't mind the neutral shift - it sounds weird, but I actually prefer it. I'd rather not find neutral when I want it (stopped with the clutch pulled in) than miss 1st or 2nd when the bike is in motion and I am depending on the engine power to get me through something (in the event I need to make an abrupt shift for whatever reason). As time has gone on, the desire for a quickshifter has grown and grown. The Tuareg deserves is 3. Great call on the aux lights - That is an under-valued bonus that may be genuinely life saving. I rode street motorcycles for 10s of thousands of miles in new hampshire and then had a large gap in motorcycle ownership (~5 years) before getting the Tuareg out here in Colorado. I'm not sure if it's the locals here or if driver awareness has gone downhill, but I have felt extra invisible out here, encountering many more drivers who don't seem to see me regardless of how I position myself on the roadways. I've heard that aux lights make a major difference 4. I'm really thinking I'll get one eventually 5. I love SW Motech's stuff. I originally went for their crash bars, but after i placed my order, they informed me that the inventory was not actually there and they would be delayed ~3 months. At the time, I was waiting for crash protection to offroad the Tuareg on actual trails (to prep for Schofield) and I didn't want to wait that long. I never saw their rack offering, but it sounds like that's probably the best path - thank you for this insight 6. lol, it seems like a rare enough issue that it can be ignored, but if I have any wild adventures coming up that I really want to avoid getting stranded for - I will likely purchase the insurance of updating the bolts. BoogiemanMoto shared that I can get a cheap (cheaper than titanium) set from the camel adv guys which sounds like a solid play!! 7. I agree with you here - I've been lucky in so many ways but I know that it will run out eventually. I'm okay with breaking one or both of them on a ride and dealing with replacement later, and I've gravitated towards that type of planning for most other things on the bike. It's risky, but not wildly risky until I venture very far from home, which I've not been doing much of. I took this approach with an enduro mountain bike some years back - I got the nicest frame and suspension I could and then loaded it up with cheap parts (wheels, brakes, drivetrain) that were known to fail/break. I figured I could enjoy the bike and replace wheels, gears, brakes etc.. as they broke with better components once I understood what I was actually purchasing. That bike has been through absolute hell (though I don't recall ever dropping it, just abusing it) and still has all of its original parts. Thank you for your awesome comment and all of the insight. Having this channel and sharing/discussing Tuareg and adventure stuff has been a fast track for quickly learning and adapting to the bike and adventure in general (as finances permit, lol)

Gotta agree with you! The axle nut it's a must IMO, stock one is a b*tch to work with. About the shifter, I find that makes regular riding/commuting more pleasant, plus it helps me on the trails when I want to keep my hands firmly on the bars. It's the first bike that I own with such tech and I'm not going back!!

@@quimpimp Coming into winter here in Northern NM, I'm damn glad to keep my hands on my hand warming bars and not the icy shift lever, smiling as I just hit the quick shifter pedal - woohoo! I know that sounds minor, but my finger digits don't think so.

@@1young-geezer Haha that's right! Forgot that, good point. Heated grips do work wonders as well

Hey thank you! I definitely see the light with all of it and know that I'm blessed to have the local rides and adventures I do - and slowly building the bike out to be exactly what I want it to be (as i slowly discover what I want it to be) is quite satisfying. The used KTM I almost bought instead of this bike was pretty heavily modified. I originally thought that was awesome, but in hindsight, I would have been robbed of building out my own machine