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Gauge Block Jenga
Приєднався 5 жов 2007
Join me in putzing around in my tiny garage shop making mistakes, learning, and having fun!
Monarch 10EE Restoration 9: Compound and Shop Updates
This is a very simple upload showing most of the disassembly and reassembly of the compound only. The rest of the carriage will follow later. It's been quite a while since I posted due a recent move. I've almost entirely turned my attention away from the 10EE but it is for good reason. I should be getting back at it here shortly!
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Monarch 10EE Restoration 8: Gearbox Reassembly and Install
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Since the last video I focused mostly on getting the gearbox reassembled and reinstalled some miscellaneous assemblies like the spindle control lever, rack, and nameplate.
Monarch 10EE Restoration 7: Gearbox, Brazing, and Gratuitous Tape Removal
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This video is a bit of this and that. I had been putting off the last braze repair (that I know of) of the middle headstock-side panel and ended up not recording much of the brazing anyway. I made my best attempt without complete submersion in sand to prevent the casting from cracking by heating the entire part uniformly before concentrating heat into the braze. Unfortunately it cracked anyway ...
Monarch 10EE Restoration 6: Body Painting
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I spent a long time thinking about what color to paint this machine. Being somewhat of a contrarian I knew I wanted a unique color - something I've never seen on a 10EE before. Although I did not choose an original color, I've spent enough time inside ships to lose my taste for grey (and sea-foam green for that matter). I understand it may not be first choice for most of you folks out there, bu...
Monarch 10EE Restoration 5.5: Body Painting Prep and Priming
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Cleaning the lathe took an exceptionally long time at the slow rate I work, but I wanted to give the paint job a fighting chance. I admit cleaning/removing the inside coating was not explicitly necessary, but I am just foolish enough to get obsessed over the 70 years of oil saturated sludge and wanted a fresh start. Once the paint has had time to cure I will use body filler on the large flat ex...
Monarch 10EE Restoration 4: Drive Electronics Removal
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In this video I perform a quick demonstration of the MG and then dismantling of the drive electronics. Overall the wiring is still very well labeled. I haven't decided yet if I will replace the oil saturated wires - or just recrimp ring terminals. Although the MG appears to work well I am conflicted. I appreciate its ingenuity and am a bit sentimental. It's capable of high-torque at a wide RPM ...
Monarch 10EE Restoration 3: Carriage and Tailstock Removal
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I finished removing carriage and tailstock in preparation of an external cleaning. I presently have no intention of removing the headstock and will move on to the interior. Up next I'll demonstrate the MG electronics and remove them. I'm quite conflicted about how to proceed with the electronics. (i.e. static phase converter, rotary phase converter, VFD driven MG, or VFD driven AC spindle motor...
Monarch 10EE Restoration 2: Gearbox Removal
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I am steadily working towards getting the lathe stripped down enough to properly clean and paint. To that end I decided to tackle the gearbox. There seemed to be a perpetual amount of oil leaking from every nook around it so to avoid regretting it later, I would bite the bullet and take it off. I am very grateful for the removal instructions written up by DaveE907 on the PM forum (link below). ...
Monarch 10EE Restoration 1: You Have to Start Somewhere
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I recently purchased a 1950 Monarch 10EE. This lathe uses the motor-generator drive system. I've replaced the over-current coils, AC contactor coil, powered the AC motor with a static phase converter, and spun the spindle motor (with back gear removed) to verify that the drive electronics must (mostly) work. The phase converter is way underrated for this load so I've only powered it for a few m...
1927 South Bend Lathe Restoration #7 - The Finale
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It took me quite a while to acquire a chuck and finish out the South Bend. There were a few elements I omitted from filming like the motor, rewiring, and safety cover repairs. This entire project was done in parallel with a Monarch 10EE restoration project. Perhaps I will begin filming my 10EE escapades!
1927 South Bend Lathe Restoration #6
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I bored out the apron handwheel, made a bushing, and turned down the pinion shaft to match. The pinion teeth are still pretty damaged but I will defer gear teeth repair until I have a rotary indexer.
1927 South Bend Lathe Restoration #5
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This is focused on the horizontal drive assembly components. This will be the last video on disassembly before I'll start reassembly!
1927 South Bend Lathe Restoration #4
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Taking apart the headstock. Parts were also cleaned and painted but omitted from this video.
1927 South Bend Lathe Restoration #3
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I removed the headstock but then got carried away with the bed and just ran with it. Again disassembling, cleaning, and painting. After scraping loose debris and using the wire cup I submerged in hot water mixed with washing soda. After cooling to about 110F I repeated for a total of 3 cycles and agitated periodically. I was quite surprised at how well it worked. All of the painted parts have b...
1927 South Bend Lathe Restoration #2
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1927 South Bend Lathe Restoration #2
1927 South Bend Lathe Restoration #1
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1927 South Bend Lathe Restoration #1
Did you have the ways of the bed or any of the other sliding components scraped or ground for flatness, or was such found to still be within spec after being measured?
Just wondering what body filler you used? Lovely work!
Very happy to see you're wearing a respirator here. Also impressed with the rare and fabled lathe restoration moccasins!
Here a word about safety please don't spray the gun to your hand. I had a friend that spray the nozzle to his hand to take him to the ER and they had to cut into his hand to get it out and he also had to go ever day because where cut into his hand they had to go in and get more paint out of there. So please do the right thing.
Just wondering if your lathe 220 volts or 110 volts.
I love the sound clips in your videos. I love this lathe . I have a 1912 south bend 9" (I believe it was made in 1912) from the numbers I got off the top outside bed rail.
Doing this exact thing on Monday, wish me luck
Thanks for saving a lost piece of history.😅
I thought silent movies were something of the past.So many questions were unanswered.
Hello, 1st thanks for posting the video. I moved from VA to WA and a brand new shop, I can relate to all that comes 1st before work can start again. I need to pull my compound apart, again, and decided to check and see what video there might be. Just curious. At marker 5:10, did you replace the thrust bearing off camera?
Haha, watching this the second time around... Absolutely loving the Austin Powers references... I`m listening and i know that i know the lines and the voice, but it took me a few seconds to recall where from... As said, if i run across one of these, i am so picking her up in a blink of an eye... When i first saw the machine on your channel - torn down - she seemed a bit anemic with regard to the cavernous hollows in the main body, but having picked up the Habegger, i came around... I was familiar with chunky, thick and heavy cast machines, but the 10ee is skookum enough for sure... I suppose that not every machine needs to weigh 3+ tonnes to be a high performance beast...
Thanks! Out of curiosity, how do you typically prefer to transport your machines?
@@gaugeblockjenga Hmm, generally, i prefer to arrange a heavy truck with a crane - have the machine stuck through with steel rods if holes for such lifting method are cast in, otherwise the machine is simply strapped from underneath and the lifting ropes are secured around the perimeter with a ratchet strap or 5 and blocks of wood to keep the ropes apart - depending on the size of the machine and their form - as to prevent any rope sliding or similar nightmares... Therefrom a machine is gently lifted upright into the air and transferred onto the truck where they get secured with 5-10 ratchet straps... I follow the truck from behind to keep an eye on the machine(the driver has been at my place around 10 times, so he knows the drill) and i make sure that no moron tailgates the truck... When the truck arrives at my place, it anchors with 2 hydraulic rods onto the driveway and the machine is as when lifted initially, lifted again, swung over and lowered onto a euro pallet which is pallet-jack lifted and driven into the shop... If i can`t take the machine off the pallet at the moment for whatever reason, i chuck slabs of steel or aluminium under the wood planks of the pallet to provide proper support in case the machine collapses the pallet at some point(which has happened to me, but the blocks did their job and i didn`t even notice it until i tried to kick a block flush with the side of the pallet one day)... I also leave my pallet-jack parked underneath the most compact and heaviest machine on a pallet(just in case)... Tho, i have had rented a van on few occasions and drove it to pick up a machine and have one loaded into the back if the machine is under 1000kg... That`s how my deckel s1 and schau22 rolled in... In that case, the van is unloaded by the neighbour with a tractor with hydraulic forklift attachment... Needless to say, the machine gets loaded into the van on a pallet to make the ordeal easier to execute... I also drove a few of them in my car(baby mill and baby lathe), those got unloaded by hand... Tho, moving shop when i finish building a new one will be a massive bitch, as my driveway allows for unloading of machines, but not for loading them on the truck.. The slope means that the machine can`t be sat on the truck, and when they are unloaded, one lifting loop is left around the lowest part of the machine and i pull on the machine via a ``pulley`` system to keep her sitting flat while the driver releases the ratchet straps holding the machine in place(of course the crane holds them up too), but otherwise, the machine would slide down the truck the moment the straps are loose, only getting stopped by the yanking on the crane - which could damage the lifting ropes or cause the machine to slip out and fall over at that angle... I will definitely ask the driver is he okay with me filming that day, and we will cover the veh. reg. plates... That will be a damn long day, and a long video, but it should be a good example of how to lift 10 vastly different machines that range from 400kg up to 3200kg... The others i will manage to take apart and drive them over by car... It will be a 200m long drive, as the new shop will still be in my yard, but it poses a major problem for every tall machine... Long lathes have less issues with it, as they resist the sliding or tipping over by being down low and by having a large footprint, but the ELB, the S22 and the Charmilles will be a terror to manage... S22 less so, but she`s tall when compared to her footprint... The ELB is quite bulky, but damn tall, and the Charmilles is damn tall and has a damn small footprint, so that one is the worst of the offenders... Jesus, this was a long one huh...
@@camillosteuss Haha, no worries! You're very thorough! The new shop sounds like it will be quite worth it.
BRUH! Hwy didn`t i get a notif about this vid? You posted it, i have all notifications on for your channel and 0 notice, not just that, but had i not been scrolling all the way down to the bottom of my home page, i would not have seen this video posted at all, not for as long as it would take me to check your channel out directly by going to your channel page... The fuck... In other news, we have a nice lathe here, the progress is coming along well... Glad to see some stuff from you, not just the m10ee but stuff in general... I have quite some restoration projects in future, but every day i get more delays... It`s a shitstorm, so seeing someone being able to do something is definitely keeping me sane... All the best and kind regards! Steuss
Great to see you back and I had no idea you started posting vids! Sub'd!
@@gaugeblockjenga Oh, i never left, i just got 0 notifications... UA-cam service in that regard is quite bad in recent times... That and randomly losing channels from my subscription list without ever unsubbing myself... Some hardcore bullshit right there, having to keep track of what should be not subject to random changes... Regarding posting, yeah, the Rotary SMP got me to finally get my lazy ass to start making videos... I just hit a nasty roadblock with massively overcrowding my shop and being unable to build a new one at the moment... I have a full set of plans for the shop, but just the foundation of 135 cubic meters of reinforced concrete is an impediment enough, let alone the other like 9/10ths of what a shop implies... Tho, i have a few vids in the making, i just need to finish them, or the projects the videos are supposed to be about... Winter murders my motivation to live so shit takes extra long... The tapered gib being retained on both sides is one of the best implementations of the design... Just spectacular! All the best and good luck with your projects! p.s. thanks for the sub!
Is chicken Rickey helping?
I had to look up what you meant and I'm glad I did!
Thanks for your share I wondering about gears for pulling the carriage. I’m making homemade lathe but I don’t know number of gear size.
Thanks for swinging by! I hear you can 3D print them (and better yet add a bushing). In theory, if you get something wrong you can easily try again!
Dude! The intro is outstanding ! The color is perfection ! You really should pop the headstock and take a peek inside, you owe it to yourself.
Thank you! So far I've only removed the strainer and glanced in because I had no indication that anything was wrong. I've thought about removing the sealed cover but ended up settling for an oil change. You're right though, I should do a bit more careful inspection!
Nicest 10ee I've ever seen. What type of paint did you use?
Thank you very much! MC Prepbond primer all over; Total Boat Bilge inside, SuperSpec (P22) color and KBS Diamond clear. In hindsight I should have gone with a 2-part color but otherwise I am very pleased!
Just subscribed and started watching this series. Like your channel name BTW..
Thank you very much!
Outstanding. I need to paint mine. What kind of paint did you use?
Thank you! I used Wasser MC Prepbond primer all over (very pleased); Total Boat Bilge inside (very pleased), SuperSpec-P22 color (meh on hardness but pretty durable) and KBS Diamond clear (pleased). I probably should have gone with a 2-part color to ensure hardness but overall I am very pleased!
@@gaugeblockjengaThanks!
looking good. question: you got your "bright work" and shafts looking very nice. What were you go to methods for cleaning and polishing? If wire wheel - how corse? curious. thanks!
I tend experiment quite a bit so that each subassembly was probably done a little differently. However, I think I've started converging on a rhythm with my recent parts. For example the sight glass retainers I did a scrub with kerosene, paint scraping (if applicable), 70 grit AlumOxide blast, hand file to knock down any super distorted parts, wire wheel (generic 6" diam, 0.012" wire), then a white rouge buff on a generic 8" diam wheel. I made an attempt to powder coat them (instead of the wire & buff) with chrome powder but either due to my cheap gear or lack of experience; I wasn't able to get a good result. Thanks for the question!
Looking good. Glad to see you make more progress.
Thank you!
what a beautiful colour
Thank you!
Very satisfying. Especially the brazing, tape removal, and sign addition at the end!
Glad you liked it!
On its way to gorgeous. I get that some don't like anything but gray for their machines - but... it not their machine... Questions, questions: 1. After bondo coat & sand, did you spray another coat of primer - or brush? 2. Did you opt to brush to simplify? 3. Single stage? 4. What paint type did you opt for? 5. What did you go back and coat the inside casting reinforcement beams with just before paint? Big thanks for all the time spent putting a camera in place with close ups. Super helpful!
Thank you! I'd be happy to answer! 1 & 2. Yes, I think when it was all said an done there were at least two cycles of prime-bondo-prime just about everywhere visible from the outside. I didn't have high hopes for spraying the primer at first and so I brushed/rolled. I ended up figuring out the trick to modifying the Harbor Freight gun after and in hindsight I think I could have just sprayed more than I actually did. I'm just a newbie feeling things out. 3. All the paint I used was single, but also in hindsight I think 2K is the better option. In what little experience I have with 2K, "it just works". I think I may have been intimidated by the cost, but I also bought cheaper topcoat paint and tested - found lacking - and ended up not using it. Had I just bought the right stuff to begin with.... 4 & 5) For the primer I used MC-Prepbond by Wasser. Fantastic stuff! It's a moisture cure urethane. Adheres super well, forgiving, and hard. I rolled the dice on McMaster, paying a pretty penny, and knowing nothing else than what the datasheet read - totally paid off. The inside of the lathe was TotalBilge. I figured bilge paint would work well in an oily environment. I hope to plug all the leaks and minimize it's exposure anyway. The topcoat outside is BM Superspec Urethane Alkyd Enamel. I thought that an alykd would be forgiving for brushing (again, I didnt realize I could spray on a budget when I bought it). I'm glad I could help and thanks for swinging by!
Motor pull mini rod solution was pretty ingenious. Think we've all seen the machines themselves moved on pipes - but Im not sure I've ever seen someone roll the motor out... 🙂
Thanks! That's exactly where I got the idea from. Lone guy in a shop - need to default to old wisdom!
getting here late - but along for the ride. impressive skills and care - with the Dremel to get your slots cut. editing is funny and insightful - for those that know the machine - and I can't imagine anyone who DOESN'T know the machine taking the time to watch. Long pauses at times says it all. Question: what type of paint did you use for the tags?
Thank you! I used some Testors enamel for the tags and sprayed a rattle can of Rustoleum automotive clear over them. It took quite a while but it ended up curing good and hard. I find that you need to multiply all the cure time estimates by 10... luckily i'm not in any hurry!
Enjoyed the intro. Th EE is looking good. I feel for you having to do the electrical next. That machine will drive you crazy with all its electrical.
Thanks! The little ones are always eager to be silly; perhaps they'll get a kick out of watching themselves in these when they're older. I do wonder if these may be a bit more special if I did some talking... I digress. I think I will be driven crazy - but it'll all be in good fun!
Great job!
Thank you!
The "This Old Tony" vibes are strong in this one....with touch of AVE work bench, with a finish of Vintage Machinery
I genuinely appreciate your comment! Thank you very much!
@@gaugeblockjenga I just picked up a little south bend lathe. Same model as yours but a little earlier. Power feed lead screw is seized up in the housing and key was sheared. Your videos will be a great asset to tear down. Thanks
@@ksfisher1990 That's outstanding. I really appreciate knowing these videos are helpful!
Had to come back to relive one of the greatest intros ever
Thank you!
Oh I can’t watch any longer until you get a ball peen hammer. It’s driving me crazy hahaha
I have one! I'll try to make conspicuous use of it in a future video for you ;)
I have that exact same lathe. Passed down to me from my great grandfather who bought it brand new- it passed to my grandfather, to my pops and now to me.
That's wonderful!
Yes, this intro. The illumination in the box is fantastic and cheeky. I love those little hands pulling out the paint can opener. I really enjoyed the part where you increased the size of the nozzle....spray, spray, spray. Then at 12:00....oh yeah! "Purple people eater." And I caught the bookend (intentional or not) with the return of the sacred can opener. Beautiful work. This is ASMR for me. Keep it up.
That's very kind of you. Thank you for watching and your feedback!
The beginning cracked me up, so funny! I like the color too
Thank you, I'm glad you liked it!
well it's certainly different.
I enjoyed the series on the 1927 South Bend restoration, well done. Please reply on the primer and finish color used, it seems to be a pretty good match to the original South Bend paint.
Thank you! On bare metal I used Rustoleum automotive etching primer, followed by Rustoleum automotive filling primer, followed by Rustoleum Pro Enamel (Dark Grey). I clear coated outward facing surfaces with Spray Max 2K High Gloss because I wasn't totally satisfied with how hard the enamel turned out. I'm not a Rustoleum fan boy; I simply don't know much about paint and went with a big-box rattle can.
Insane dedication! Wow!!!
Thank you!
Nice. I wish I had that idea to use an air hammer last time I had to scrape paint.... And that I had an air hammer, and compressor.
I was quite pleased with how it worked! However, I did have to grind a more conventional single-sided chisel grind for it to actually be effective. It certainly went faster than the brazed insert! Thank you for the comment!
I have a similar old lathe that needs a similar treatment. How many hours do you think you spend on cleaning?
It's hard to estimate how long it took because I only worked an hour or so on some evenings. Perhaps in the ballpark of 30-50 hours. If there wasn't the petroleum-based (akin to an underbody coating) on the body interior it would have easily been half that time. Good luck! I hope all goes well for you!
Why would waste so much when it would so easy, By carefully masking all the machine surface of then water blasting the cast metal then repainting it.
That's a great point that I did consider! However, I feared with a method like that I would never quite mask well enough, would never quite dry absolutely, and it would result in rust in places I dreaded. Had I pulled the bed and headstock, I would have most likely done what you suggest but I wanted to preserve the factory alignment. All things considered I just wanted to go the careful but slow approach this time around. If my next machine looks like it will be this painstaking I will almost certainly try to water blast. Thanks!
I know there’s nothing wrong with that lathe that a little TLC won’t fix. How do I know , you ask ? That Monarch and I were both born the same month and year 😃. I’ll be checking in to see how it goes with the rest of the re-build 😉❤️
Following your process.
Where did you get the step instructions for disassembly? Can they be shared? I am interested.
Hi! I put a link to the instructions down below in the description :)
Biggest issue with a VFD is... ALL start\stop\speed function is controlled by the VFD. That means all lathe controls are now either defunct, or need to be converted to operate the VFD. Next issue is, DC gives 100% torque at all speeds, AC will not, so you lose a lot of umph at slower speeds when driven by a VFD. I have a 1967 10EE (tube drive) and went through these exact scenarios before deciding to keep the O.G. setup and repair accordingly. I used a VFD for a short time on one of my Bridgeports as well and the hassle of controlling it all with the VFD made me appreciate the rotary converter even more.
I think if space weren't so tight in my garage I would love to nab a cheap 3P motor and wire up my own rotary phase converter and remain on OG. I think a decent compromise may be running the generator off of a VFD at fixed 60Hz and suffering the power loss associated with it. I could see why that may not be a good solution for tube drive. I could even go so far as to wire the original AC contactor to the VFD input so that the motor starter would always have power and MG Stop button would kill the spindle. Starting would go something like: Press MG start to power VFD, Press run on VFD, then operate machine normally. I suspect that the torque curve will still be fairly flat for a properly sized VFD. I don't have much VFD experience so feel free to put me in my place! I do have a very small VFD on hand I was thinking of installing on the surface grinder. Perhaps I can get my feet wet with that project and learn a thing or two before moving over to the 10EE. Thank you for sharing your experiences!
@@gaugeblockjenga if the MG runs all the time regardless of the spindle, then a VFD may be a great option. The cheap Amazon chinese ones are the way to go ! Get one rated 10-20% higher than your needs.
@@manmachinemake3708 Understood. Thanks you for the advice! It looks as though the 7.5kW class VFD may be the ticket. A 5kW may be cutting it a bit close.
@@gaugeblockjenga yeah, go big as that gives you a decent headroom vs cost. I used the 3hp (2.2kW ???) On my 2 HP bridgeport and it never even warmed up. That is now powering my 1920's Moloch 100# power hammer.
5:50 Gearsoup with screws and washers. Yummy.
Tasted terrible! 0/5 stars.
Looking forward to seeing the end result. Keep up the good work. I'm about to start on a grinder and also a horizontal mill restore soon.
You have quite a wonderful shop setup! The cylindrical griding attachment would be pretty fun to tinker with :)
Excelente trabalho e com ajuda do pequeno aprendiz!
Obrigada!
@@gaugeblockjenga .
BOY you must be rich? Hahaha who uses brand new clean pressure treated lumber to remove an apron? LOL These days Lumber costs more than machine parts! Nice series, will be following along-
Haha! I think those were leftovers from my kiddos playset buildup. Thanks for watching!
Looks like a lot of time-consuming, meticulous work! Excited to see it finished
Thank you for watching!
а восстановление геометрии станины? или и так сойдет, главное покрашено?
Я думал отправить детали на шлифовку, но это было бы непомерно дорого.(I thought of sending the parts out to be ground but it would have been cost prohibitive.)
@@gaugeblockjenga спасибо за ответ
Damn, i thought that she would have been more skookum in the hips... I mean, im sure shes gonna be a skookum choocher, but i was surprised by the cavernous hole that she is hiding below those fine appearing hips... This sure wasnt her first rodeo down under, if you know what im sayin`... Either way, enough AvE, what i mean is that i dont know where does all that bloody mass come from in that machine... Sure, the bed is well cast and of lovely geometry and dimensions, the carriage-cross slide-compound are nice and sure hold some mass, the headstock with its gears and spindle and wall thickness, sure, but looking at her in one piece with what i`ve seen you show, she seems a lighter lady than the scale weighs her... I mean, i get heyligenstaedt lathes, some monarchs and the beasts with thick, nearly solid body weighing what they do, but your little missy seems quite gently built, compared to some specimens i have seen... To be sure, i know of the solid slab and the Eiffel tower correlation, but that was not the point, the point is that this lathe is a product of deviltry and sorcery debaucherous, as i just cant place all that mass in such a neat package... I mean, my s.g. is such a machine too, as i dont see where 3 tonnes live in such a relatively hollow machine, but hey, if germans adhere to those black magic teachings, i cant blame the ozzies here for their monarch...
Haha, I could definitely hear the AvE in your message. I'm a big fan myself. I was indeed surprised to see how much space there was when all was said and done. I could even climb inside to do some cleaning; all the while imagining how well it might serve as a tornado shelter :). Thanks again for swinging by!