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I also bought a used Haier HWD i-Pro 7 with 55cm depth and smaller drum. Surprisingly that machine is handling suds and „overdosing“ much better. Had to descale the water inlet and opened the machine. I was surprised by the built quality. Still, what a pity it cannot handle overdosing like a Miele, V-Zug or Schulthess.

@ that's the issue with Haier unfortunately and they're passing it onto Candy although fun fact, Candy had that issue with their single phase induction motor models

I have observed it suds- or water-lock in every second interim spin and final spin - and I rarely load it more than 2/3. It stops and pumps the water out and starts again to spin. I think this is a bit annoying. However the outer tub will always stay very clean with these water-locks.

I agree. Miele has a much stronger drain pump that can carry away suds easily and additional they have a proper vent hose for the pump. V-Zug has a bit less strong pump, similar to Electrolux, however still with a small vent hose and it is just ramping up the spin speed perfectly that no suds lock occurs. I got the impression, that the pump of Haier is not pumping out the water in the first attempt, it has somehow to pause in order to start to "suck" in the water. Is it because of a missing air vent hose?

@ it's not about pump strength, Haier have timed sequences for the pump and not sensed ones like my Candy has, which means if it's not meant to turn it on it won't, while on my Candy, whenever slight slushing is heard the pump go on and pump it out, and if it had a sudslock, the pump would remain on at all times and if it switches it off based on sequence, it alters the sequence to try and pump out the soap while Haier thinks it's like a complicated maths process😂

@@eli55121 ok ok I see, sensed sequences would be so much better also to reduce noise. Why didn't they take over that system from Candy... I remember old V-Zug having sensed pump sequences in the spin phase. I don't think my Miele Passion had sensed pump sequences.

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I have observed spin wash by default in the ECO Program and also in the Cotton Program when not reducing the duration of main wash with i-time. Have not used the Synthetics program yet. Tbf , spin wash is nice to observe, probably helps a bit with dissolving the detergent better when not much water is used, but I do not feel any difference to a normal cycle with good water levels such as the Smart / Automatic Program, where it does a very classical old-school wash-pattern that also has the right balance of effective but also gentle wash. Miele has been way too harsh on my clothes, even with extra water setting. I have observed your channel and I know that you had a Haier, however it did not spin wash. Check out my other videos and comments of my Haier washing machine. I'm satisfied to 70%, still paid 1600 Euro in Switzerland, but you can get the same in France for 990 Euro. I hope that V-Zug will release a new generation next year that will outperform all the other products. Have previously owned an Adora V4000 tower and the washing machine was excellent.

@adorian7323 Yes, I bought a Haier washer,but I didn't like it, to be honest. I was used to Miele. I always like to buy the best washers available on the market. I had a few issues with the Haier. The first one was the spin. Although I was using 1400 rpm clothes, they were coming out wet compared to miele, I guess, because of the spray at the end of the final spin. The other one was the rotation of the drum during washing and rinsing. Every time I wash small loads (that's my normal ), clothes were floating instead of tumbling. That's because of the design of the drum and puddles, I think. Watching your videos, I noticed the new drum rotations, which I like a lot. Anyway, I gave the Haier to my sister, and I bought the new AEG with salt, and I loved it .

@@rch497 the new Haier are using the water-spray to clean the door and doorseal just at the beginning of the spin. ECO 40-60 has a very intensive spin, clothes come out very dry. Cotton is less intense, spin only starts at Minute 10 on the timer, which is actually enough and better for the clothes, more gentle. With reduction of spin speed also time spin time is reduced, I‘m not sure if I like that or not. Thanks to the big drum and the gentler spin, clothes are less wrinkled. The best spinning performance by far has V-Zug and Schulthess, even though their spin is not longer as the one from Miele and it is holding 1600 rpm just for 2 Mins. It is the drum with many little holes that helped with extraction. I prefer that type of drum. Haier at least has holes at the back of the drum, that helps with hair and other particles. With small loads I have observed the same as you, the drum paddles are better with Miele or V-Zug. But my Haier is using less water when I do small loads and that helps with the rotation, however in the Quick15 min. with a very small load it is floating. I‘m worried how the Miele without drum paddles will perform. I like Miele UI and Design, built quality etc. but dislike their honey comb drum, small porthole/door, program duration and also being to intense on clothes.

@@zanussi_and_aeg_fan well, I dose according to the detergent manufacturer for a full load… this should not happen and does not happen with Miele or V-Zug. But I recognise, that it needs very little detergent.

​@@adorian7323Yes, I know it pukes pretty quickly it seems, but it needs less detergent like you said

@@zanussi_and_aeg_fan has definitely a problem with powder detergent! I got a partial refund for this fault that they cannot fix

Apart from the drawer leaking and the time adding after using the i-Time option 😅

@@croitorudaniel2217 well, I dose according to the detergent manufacturer for a full load… this should not happen and does not happen with Miele or V-Zug. But I recognise, that it needs very little detergent.

Most of the time it is very stable, or always after it has passed the critical spin speed. Mine is built in in a closet with a special foundation. My floor is concrete and ultra solid, and still I fell slight vibration transferred to the floor. That is very normal. The machine is however rocket stable.

@@MachineCentral thank you! The look is really nice, even the pump filter lid is metal. The fresh air option is on by default, I think it is useful, but don’t feel any difference to machines without. V-Zug or Schulthess just open the door automatically, which has the same effect. I think it is useless, that the have a dedicated touch button on the control panel for that. I‘m a bit disappointed with the steam function, it is not very powerful like on V-Zug or Miele to de-wrinkle clothes and you cannot add it to the cycle, it is just separate program.

@@richardc1983 Yes, it seems like. But my previous Miele or V-Zug never had a problem to cope with the right dosage, even though the main wash was very sudsy. I prefer powder for my whites (Ariel or Persil) and I really believe, when dosing the right amount, the whites stay whiter.

😂😊 oh yes it is the humming of the dryer, the splashing of the Miele dishwasher, and the rotation of the Haier drum that is just the calming combination

It has problems with the drawer leaking and automatic dosing is not working or badly programmed… I hope they can fix it. I guess the ipro 7 without automatic dosing is better price/value. I like the build quality and the big drum with direct drive motor.

@adorian7323 :(((. I think in the future Haier will fix this problems.

@@adorian7323 Can you record full interim or final spin cycle?

With the hOn App you can program a Pre-Wash but not on the interface of the washing machine. It rinses really well on the Auto-Program (KI-Program) because it is using a hight rinse level and on Cottons it is doing long intermediate spins on high speed, however with lower water level. You can choose up to 5 rinses. I go with 2 rinses and it has good. I will upload other videos. The machine has many faults with the auto dose and dispenser that need to be fixed first.

So i have a Fisher & paykel machine currently and have autodose, the drawer on the haier series 11 is identical in terms of layout. I really dislike the autodose on it, it goes mouldy inside, over doses detergent, cannot use powder to pre wash. If you leave drawer open to ventilate and dry it out it leaks inside. What issues are you seeing? For me it's between this series 11 and the previous series 7 with a traditional soap drawer. Also when you add extra rinses e.g 2 is that in addition to what the machine will already do or maximum of 2?

I very much dislike the autodose too. Mine does not dose enough detergent or not at all. You cannot program the amount of milliliters of detergent. The manual dosing compartment for powder is a joke, too small and at the back of the drawer. Every time I use powder detergent, water is leaking from the detergent drawer down the machine front because I guess it is not enough room for water and powder to flow down the canal. Very bad construction. Sometimes when it suds-locks on spinning the foam overflows from the drawer. When setting the rinses, you chose the amount of rinses. You can also choose no rinse. Interestingly, when choosing 2 rinses on cottons versus 3 rinses, the time stays the same. The two rinses were rather lengthy (similar to old-style Miele). Another problem with the washer is, that iTime seems not working on Cottons program. Alt

Reducing the program duration with iTime from 3h30 to 2h, the machine extended the time right at the load-sensing phase back to 3h30. Does not make sense at all, since the machine was loaded only 1/4 of full capacity.

Further I am not happy with the Steam function. I does not really exist. It is not possible to have a steam phase at the end of cycle e.g. in the Shirts cycle. With the function Refresh you can find a Steam-Refresh-Cycle, however the steam is not good enough to heat up the garments and stretch / un-wrinkle them. The good thing about the machine is, that it feels sturdy from outside and at the door (latch etc.) and it is very quiet at spinning.