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The Council for Sustainable Building Practices
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Su yalitim membranlari neden basarisiz olur
Su yalıtım membranları neden başarısız olur. Bu video farklı su yalıtım membranlarının beton su yalıtımında yarattığı en yaygın problemleri özetlemektedir.
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Відео
Por qué falla la impermeabilización con membranas
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Por qué las membranas de impermeabilización fallan. Este video describe los problemas más comunes en la impermeabilización de hormigón utilizando diferentes sistemas de membrana impermeabilizante.
Why Waterproofing Membranes Fail
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Why waterproofing membranes fail. This video outlines the most common problems in concrete waterproofing using different waterproofing membrane systems.
Even as i am writing this comment i am at work on standby because the waterproofing areas are not ready and hs2 is pissed😂😂
The problem are the clients most of the time i work for renesco and we are always fighting with clients because they provide us with poor surface and explaining to them that we cant apply anything there is a nightmare and all they want us to do is install membrane but they dont care about the fact that we are comprimising the quality of the waterproofing with poor surface
No overlapping of the membrane edges done, does it effect its durability and functionality?
music too loud
Wha? Provide all the problems but not the solutions?
Membran hikaye , temelin altına kristalize, yanlarına sıvı yalıtım yapacaksınız, bir de drenaj önemli
usta marka önerin varmı artık mebran uygulaması yapmacağım
Arkadaşlar evet video görselleri ve anlatım çok iyi. ancak anlatılması gereken konu tam olarak anlatılmamış. sadece memranın uygulanması noktasında dikkat edilmesi gerekenler anlatılmış. bu nedenle bu video eksiktir ve amacına ulaşmamıştır. inşaatlerda yapım aşamasında su yalıtımı nasıl yapılır konusu anlatılmalıdır. membran bu işin bir elamanıdır. sadece memran ile su yalıtımı olmaz.
Kanal membran düşmanı herhalde. Farklı dillerde aynı video.. Ne iş?
boş ve yalan video kaliteli membran işi bilen usta ile kesin çözümdür
artık usta kalmadı maalesef
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:19 👷♂️ Waterproofing membrane installation requires skilled labor and 90% of failures are due to poor workmanship. 00:32 ❌ Picking an inappropriate membrane for the intended application can lead to failure of the waterproofing application. 01:03 💧 Any debonding of the membrane leads to water penetration into the concrete. 01:26 ⬇️ Certain membranes not fully adhering to the concrete surface make them unsuitable for below-grade applications. 01:39 🌧️ Applying a membrane to a damp, wet or uneven surface can cause debonding. 01:52 🔄 Lack of adequate priming prior to waterproofing application can result in failure. 02:19 🔗 NOT fully bonding overlaps can cause potential breaches in the waterproofing layer. 02:32 🎈 Failure to properly prime a surface may lead to air becoming trapped under the membrane, causing debonding and blistering. 03:01💔 Damage such as puncturing and tearing from construction activities often cause breaches of the waterproofing layer. 03:30 ⏲️ Over time, waterproofing membranes may deteriorate due to exposure to the environment, which can lead to failure. 04:24 🔄 In conclusion, new technologies that permanently reduce permeability and improve concrete properties are recommended as a solution over membrane applications. Made with HARPA AI
This video does a great job explaining what goes wrong, but doesn't bother to advise what works. I'm no waterproofing expert by any means, but I have devoted an incredible amount of time over the last 6months researching the issue and conducting at home tests. If you look at my youtube channel, you will see the problem I'm facing. Blindside waterproofing is very difficult. With that said, the latest and greatest thing on the market is HDPE membranes. Looking across the world, it appears china is the kings of subterranean building at or below the water table. From what I can tell, about 15years ago, they started using HDPE with some kind of sand based material stuck on one side of the HDPE. The concrete gets cast directly against the sandy side and 2 things happen. One is the sand provides a key for the concrete to grip to and then something chemically happens with that sandy stuff. SO it's either the heat of the curing concrete or the lime in it that activates something in the membrane. The chinese also offer an HDPE that only has a glue to do the bonding. As usual, some companies produce a better product than others. i had a sample of adhesive only HDPE that bonds to cast concrete with incredible strength. FWIW, the HDPE is around 1.4mm thick and the glue layer is .3mm-.8mm thick. One glue I came across from Oriental Yuhong would even make 3M a little jealous. So I have now started trying to find something here in the USA and the big dog on the street is Preprufe300r, a GCP product. I have not sampled it as a roll of this stuff is currently over $3,000! So I talked to CETCO and interestingly enough, they were VERY familiar with the membranes made by Oriental Yuhong. SO much so, they will now start selling something called VintegraP20 in Sept2023. I will be testing this as soon as it becomes available. Look up Mineralstech for more info on that one. The man on the phone told me CETCO invented what the Chinese now manufacture and have been using for over a decade. Now the last membrane on my hit list arrived today. Sika claims to be the world leader in this field. For my blind side cast concrete situation, they recommended their SikaproofA+12. It is an FPO with a polymer based sand on the casting side. Again, expect a mechanical and chemical bond to happen when concrete is cast up against it. I have a sample curing right now and I'm looking forward to the results in a couple of weeks. The stuff isn't as puncture proof as the HDPE, but it is very flexible and stretches. The take away, if you have a blindside situation such as mine, these are your options, PERIOD. The theory behind all of these full bonding membranes is when a leak happens, you can be assured it is leaking where you see it and it hasn't traveled 20feet between the membrane and concrete. This will save you time later if you have to repair the leak. A hole can be drilled at the spot and you can rest knowing you fixed it on the first try. Hope some of this helps someone and please, if I missed anything and you have some advice, swing by my channel and say hi! I'm kinda working in the dark here. Thanks!
The most common problem is to buy a cheap membrane from a local store. And allowing it to be installed by an idiot who has no idea what he is doing.
Bentonitli menbran hakkında ne düşünüyorsunuz?
Not sure why liquid EPDM would fail other than not putting the primer on. It's pretty elastic and you can layer it pretty thick. You could also not have to worry about screeding because the EPDM will fill the gaps and remain elastic. You would think that you could put a 60mil liquid EPDM barrier and encapsulate the entire exterior and it would be more water tight than a frogs ahole.
Bu dunyada ne kadar salak insan var hic hollanda ya bakmamis lar, binayi kaziklar ustune yapmiyorlar, binanin alt kismi topraga degmeden.
So what should be applied instead of membrane??
Nobody ever bothers putting that info in the videos.
Ok buen video. Cuál es la solución??
真的一本正經的胡說,那大陸一堆生產卷材都要關門,而且你的邏輯所有的防水跟本都該完蛋。塗料防水,在你的邏輯下那更更加脆弱了。真離譜
So pessimistic.
Nice 3D representations, but I do not agree on stating that TPO o PVC membranes do not work (or even bituminous ones). It is always required some kind of protection for the concrete so water doesn't corrode the rebars or damage concrete. Fully adhered membranes work perfectly since these can be either post o pre applied and the adherence is both chemical and mechanical to concrete. In severe cases compartment systems can be used to have a segmented waterproofing, so in case there is a punctual failure it will only affect one specific compartment. Several solutions such as wet applied membranes, fully adhered TPO membranes, PVC membranes with compartment systems. injection hoses and polyurea, among many others, might be the solution. Bituminous membranes stand approximately up to 0.5 bars, while fully adhered TPO membranes can stand up to 2 bars. It cannot be said that a technology doesn't work if you don't know the factors such as water column, water quality, durability expectations (service life), available budget, level of permeability required based on use type (according to BS 8102:2022).So, my recommendation, don't generalize, bituminous membranes in some projects that are not exposed to agressive conditions or don't require a long service life. Another point: if by any reason the membrane fails, you can always use injection resins as a corrective way to stop water in negative pressure.
maalesef sayfanın sorulan sorulara cevap vermemesi profesyonel bir çalışma değil 😉
Teşekkürler süper olmuş profesyonel anlatım 👌
Well, thanks for just being negative and don't provide statistics, just anecdotal evidence. Better yet, no better solution was presented. Lame. If it is really such an error to use those membranes, then please have the decency to provide answers to the problems you raise. Thank you.
La verdad que discrepo mucho de este video, somos una empresa dedicada 100% al uso de membranas de pvc en distintas áreas y sabemos que al ser instaladas por gente certificada no tiene problema alguno, hay nueva tecnología en torno a las membranas de pvc y la alkorplan C es la mejor para la cimentaciones, creo que hay que investigar mas y asi se tiene una mejor opinión.
Dimple membranes called as drainage sheet are one of the most versatile and effective materials for waterproofing of the buildings. It is (HDPE) High Density Polyethilen based and provides speed in your construction projects, sustainability and environment friendly solution.
Y cuales serian las nuevas tecnologías?
Los sistemas de Cristalización de hormigón, como los de la marca Penetron
Harcın içine su geçirimsizlik katkısı kullanılmalı.
防水捲材 不是大陸再用的嗎 我們台灣才不搞這種 簡陋性防水工程
Remake. Tell us about the "newer" technologies and leave out the headache music.
Lo sé por experiencia
Excelente información !!!
Lo ideal es la membrana líquida de buena calidad. Muy bueno el video !!! Gracias 👍👏🏼
Application accounts for 90% of failures, but skilled labor placed it... what?
Most of this is quite true for membrane failures, but there are many technologies for membrane protection that are great when installed correctly. Just relying on concrete admixtures, crystalline additions, other pore blocking technologies which is referred to here, is just 1 approach to watertight construction. But concrete cracks, and also has many placement considerations that can upset this also. Dry basement construction is about 3 types of protection as per British standard. 1. is membrane protection. 2. is integral concrete quality plus the joints / CJ's using waterstops. 3. Drainage design. This is a layered approach to dry basement design, and covers multiple lines of defense, as you say, application issues are common. You have to plan for success and have all parties working to a common cause. Having QA and hold points verified at key times, will improve any application. Adding pore blockers alone is perilous and disrespectful to understanding the overall dynamics of waterproofing.
In the USA a huge problem is careless backfilling and large rocks damaging ( sometimes severely) the protection board/ drainage board
which newer technologies?!
Nice music. Answered my questions.
Use Penetron Product
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Merhaba, alternatif çözüm önerileri içeren bir video da hazırlasanız keşke. Örneğin, temelde membran kullanmadan farklı malzemelerle uygulama yapılabilir mi?
Temelde proof sistem dediğimiz betona hidratasyon ısısı ile son derece iyi aderans sağlayan mineralli membranları tercih edebilirsiniz…
Ummm - so what are the newer technologies that solve this issue?
Penetron
Very informative however the researcher should recommend what are the latest technology for water proofing
It's crystalline Waterproofing. Also called as Integral Waterproofing.
@@rehanzamindar6533 And it's super expensive!
Use a hydrophobic pore-blocking ingredient to make concrete repel water, such as Caltite by Cementaid
So, what to use.??
Penetron
I did not have problems with my membrane leaking for 15 years , until new development next door began blasting to remove rock . Considering an alternative ?
So no membrane is bulletproof. It seems like we are caught between concrete and a hard place! 🤔
what cause waterproofing failures in pre cast concrete or IBS ?
the only take away I got, was the things NOT to allow when installing these various types of waterproofing membranes.
that is why dimple mat was made
Informative and on beat
I think they are referring to either waterproofing concrete admixtures...... and/or liquid applied. Hope that helps.
they dismiss liquid membrane at the 2:05 mark
@@nathandsnow He's refering to liquid applied waterproofing concrete admixtures. Check Kryton. But these systems are not perfect either, probably why they don't discuss it in the video.
Y a todo esto que recomiendan ? Le falta segunda parte a este video !
Los sistemas de Cristalización de hormigón, como los de la marca Penetron
Nice Video to explain about membrane waterproofing fails