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I Am an Entreleadership Alum & I was there at that Summit. Great sessions, great speakers, & great networking...! Now I understand the structure & energy of RTA. Delony for sure, "the bricks..." N.C.

Well, if an EV catches fire the battery burns, but they don’t go up in a massive ball of flames like most people seem to think.

Great Podcast gents! My question is for Marc, You said that you are going on a road trip, are you going to take the electric car on this road trip? Road trips with family and kids is stressful enough let alone worrying about how much battery I have left and where I'm going to charge to add to the stress level. I know that I have come close to running out of gas once or twice on road trips. Also, I would like to get your guy's thoughts on the tire wear that we're seeing on our Electric trucks? Currently in our California Fleet we are getting anywhere from 4 months to 6 months on the tires due to the weight and torque of the trucks. My sister has a Tesla that is just shy of a year old and is now having the same issues. Just one last thing, I'm not sure about y'all calling people "idiots" for their comments. If you want the questions and feedback then you should be able to have an open conversation without the names. Just my opinion.

Great information

EV9 is an abomination of a car and sums up everything wrong with EV's today. The size, the weight, the cost (it's a Kia FFS!) but the worst thing is the current trend with car makers who can't make batteries more efficient, so the only way to increase range is to put BIGGER batteries in cars, which is exactly what they shouldn't be doing. EV9 has a 110kWh battery (100kWh usable). Just ridiculous. Is this going to become normal?

Why the f do you need a permit for an EVSE? It's like govts are putting deliberate roadblocks in the way of EV adoption. I live in Australia, one of the most over regulated countries in the world and all we need is a licensed electrician. No permits because you're doing what every other electric device in the home does - taking power from the grid. The only exception I could think of is if your connection is not big enough then you might need approval to upgrade it.

Great Content guy's! It's good to see that Marc has finally made the move the West Coast 🤣 I have now subscribed to the channel and look forward to more great content. By the way this is Matt Hashimoto from Utah (TransFleet Services)

Great content guy's! Happy to hear that Marc has moved to the West Coast..(FINALY) 🤣 I have now subscribed and can't wait to see more content.

In Houston , Texas they are facing a 7 days blackout due to storms. You can use your EV, I think to at least run your fridge and other electrical appliances. That is a benefit even though I own a Toyota hybrid which to me is better than an ev.

WSJ did an investigative report on "battery breakthroughs" where they found thousands and thousands of media search results. The WSJ looked into the reports and found there was no follow-up as usual. The reality the WSJ found was that there were no practical/commercially viable"battery breakthroughs", and at best just small incremental improvements. The headlined so-called "breakthroughs" reported were all unrealistic/pie in the sky. "Solid state" batteries included. Fact is that Edison stated in 1910 that EVs would soon replace ICE vehicles and back then he was more correct than today. Energy density is the supreme advantage of petroleum and batteries are merely inferior gas tanks, like a gas tank they do not create energy, they store it and are vastly inferior at doing so. Even MUSK stated that EVs were a NICHE, @6% of the market and that's an admission against interest so it's most likely to be true.

The fact there can be discussions like this about EV's.. shows just how far they are off being a useful replacement for ICE vehicles for anything more than just city commuters. The fact EV users needs an APP to make sure they get from A to B on a Road Trip... it's laughable in my opinion.

Enjoyed the talk. I would love to hear a deep dive into the fleet model and a Tesla RoboTaxi. In a fantasy world, what would a Taxi Automated taxi service need to charge, fill rate, long term cost.... How could someone start their own fleet of taxis?

for 300 $ I installed a 3.7kw portable charger to a special 220v outlet (resistant plastic) with a dedcated 16A breaker and a differential magnetothermal breaker (to preevnt overheating). on roadtrips only drive the tesla cause it is chaos out there...

I was hoping to hear more about fleet numbers. Love to hear more real world data.

BYD has had 10, near new showrooms burn down. The world laughs.

Fleet expert, you mean the CEO of It HERTZ when I drive. Bankrupted Hertz, well done EV expert! lol

I use level 1 charging only and it works for me, 20A outlet, so I got a Lvl 1 charger where I can choose the amperage, and I charge with 16A overnight with no issue. You have to check your breaker box to confirm you have a 20A outlet not just a standard 15A (otherwise I would need to reduce the amperage to 12A).

You guys are talking round, and round, about the same thing, you are focused on defining the unexpected repair, AFTER Discovery. Why don't you define the unexpected repair BEFORE Discovery. Define everything that you would normally expect to find and repair during a normal PM, oil, belts, fuel and air filters, etc., and any repair outside of the defined list becomes an "unscheduled repair, FOUND During PM". This eliminates any doubt on the part of the mechanic and it creates a new metric that can show how effective the PM program is at catching and preventing "Breakdowns" or "Road Repairs". Obviously, the whole idea of a PM program is to prevent Breakdowns and Road Repairs. Additionally, as you find repairs during PMs that might be categorized as PM instead of unscheduled repair, those items can be redefined as PM repairs based on experiential learning.

Just drove my Tesla M3 from Vancouver B.C. to Santa Fe NM and back on a 3 week road trip. As long as you program your destination, the route planner will figure out charging, and I spent 1/4 of what my previous ICE car would've cost for gas. It really was easy.

The fact that PEV only make up about 1% of US cars on the road after more than 10 years of sales makes it clear most people just don't what them in the US. The charging network is great in some places and totaly inadequate in others . My daughter had a Model S for 18 months before trading it in due to have multiple problems with it.

Just get something that can use Tesla’s Supercharger network. You don’t have to plan trips at All

Who charges (before that out of town trip) while they are awake? I sure don't.

If you have range anxiety with your EV, but don't bother getting a garage charger or plug into it before starting a long trip you deserve the anxiety. Do you start your trips with maxed out credit cards and no cash? Perhaps you should get a PlugShare trip planning app on your phone.

If you have a house in AZ, I would think solar is almost a no-brainer.

PHEV not great for fleets. If the driver can get reimbursed for gas, they’re probably not going to charge the vehicle.

Having a 2005 Dodge Magnum r/t my gas gauge trembles in fear. My conundrum right now is Tesla M3 P or a Cyber Truck (when available).

Consider installing your charger in a way that the car/truck is parked outside. Check out china, lots of EV's burning while charging, or even just standing (unlike ICE). So, if it decides to start smoking, would be better if it did not take your hose or garage along with it.

One thing not mentioned a lot, many household have two or more cars. Most travel is local. So buy one of each EV and ICE. Prioritize one for local travel and if you are in a hurry use ICE for fast road trips. Use EV if you are not in a hurry for road trips.

Once again, a frustrated EV buyer learns the hard way his new expensive toy is a nightmare because of crappy 3rd party charging. 2 words: supercharger network. ONLY Tesla has a national charging network and they built it BEFORE selling mass numbers of cars. That’s the critical difference between a Tesla and all other EVs. Over 200k miles on our 2 Teslas in 5 years and never had any of the issues this guy and his wife describe. EVs are useless without a robust, convenient, and reliable charging infrastructure. Tesla knew this and planned for it. Americans are never going to stop our dependence on oil and ICE vehicles. EVs don’t make sense for most drivers- and most don’t want to switch anyways. That’s fine. So at best, EVs are a viable option for maybe 20% of the total market. That’s about 2-2.5 million vehicles annually. Alot of cars but not enough to support 20-30 different companies offering 40-50 vehicles. It’s over saturated. EVs are a niche market. All these OEMs focused on the CAR rather than first invest in the infrastructure… that’s why frustrated customers are fed up. Unfortunately Tesla gets lumped in with these other “EVs” and is suffering collateral damage because of it. (Tesla isn’t doing itself any favors with ongoing quality issues and the awful Cybertruck) Will see how it sorts out but the other OEMs will soon abandon their ridiculous EV ventures, go back to focusing on ICE vehicles, and leave the niche EV market to Tesla who is committed to the infrastructure and advancing vehicle design- if they survive the Cybertruck boondoggle, that is...

As long as you have access to Lvl 2 charging at work or home, EV work for 99% of use cases. Road trips need a little work but it’s not range anxiety these days but more “public infrastructure/EVSE anxiety”! At work I found a spare NEMA 14-50 plug and since they are on solar we plug in lvl 2 for free. EV is sitting most of work day anyways since I drive work truck if needed. Also have solar at home so it works out. Yes I’m a unicorn to get solar at home and work but have had EVs since 2015 and have made it work with just lvl 2 and/or lvl1 in past without solar. Current rig is F150 lighting as daily commuter and for roadtrips/camping. So far it’s the best truck I’ve ever driven. Like that it’s “stealth” that drivers don’t really know it’s EV until we open the frunk😂! Towing is a breeze (torque/HP and all the tech) but range is impacted (we have a 4K lbs pop up so not too bad but can see it not being viable for anything with poor aerodynamics or over 5k lbs aka most lol) but with more EV trucks coming online hopefully towing becomes a viable option for more. But for local jobs where you can charge onsite or back at yard I think it can work with a few lvl 2 chargers at the yard. I’ve worked at jobs with fleet EVs but mainly for inspections/ job site meetings but hoping more work trucks come online. Long time EV owner and worked in PW for long time and hoping to transition to management and have 0 fleet exp(work in utilities). So glad I found your channel!

EV charging today is about at the level that gas stations were back in the days when there was a big glass bowl on top of the pump so you could see you were getting just gas not water or dirt. You maybe had to drive a couple of towns over to find a station and it only had 2 pumps and there was no price competition and you might get there and they hadnt got their delivery that month yet and were out of gas.

Um….for the EV9 or any Hyundai/KIA E-GMP vehicles, the Tesla Supercharger IS the slow charger. All E-GMP vehicles operate on an 800V platform but all current Tesla superchargers max at 500(ish) volts so using a Tesla supercharger with magic doc requires the vehicle to use the built in voltage booster and this dramatically slows charging. Should be using an EA or equivalent DCFC that supports 800V with 350 kW charging, as long as they are working and not broken.

Use the nav system - tell the car where you're going and it adds the chargers from preferred networks to the route.

You both were awesome at the conference. Learned a whole lot. Thank you for asking all of my questions!!!!

Over thinking it. Manager fleet using good app (EEVE ?) for reimbursement. Those driving long range very often get a long range EV…you win time on home charging every day and lose a bit on very, very long trips, and even then can do email, make calls etc on probably mandated rests / stops anyway so not a big deal.

Why does he need to wait for a certified installer? If you have acc3ss to a 240V plug, like a dryer outlet, you can buy a 32A EVSE for a couple hundred bucks and just use that until a permanent install haopens and then use the EVSE as your portable/backup charger later.

He’s a newbie. It becomes much easier in a new months of EV ownership. And then you just hate having to go to a gas station to occasionally fill up your rarely used gas car

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Hybrids are the sugar pill that adds to your problems before you adapt? You get what you pay for.

Are these guys twins?

You guys look like brothers.

A permit to install a Level 2 charger in your garage, within sight of the electric panel? <banghead>

Range anxiety is a thing. Plus waiting to charge (let alone charging) is a thing. Don't listen to broke woke millennials who dwell at mommy's house and don't drive anywhere they realistically couldn't walk or take a bus if needed. Adults need real cars.

Whatever they claim on the range, the EV could go before it’s on zero, is a lie, it is way less than they claim.

The part of the EV transition many overlooked is the battery backup aspect. You occasionally will see a story about school districts using a fleet of EV buses as battery storage for the community and for generating revenue by selling stored energy into the grid during peak hours. Businesses could use battery storage and solar not only for their fleets, but to help keep offices m, warehouses, etc. going when tje grid fails. They could also sell power into the grid to make some money. From a logistics standpoint you can end gas station accounts, no more oil changes, lower maintenance, and just better for those driving the vehicles. Going hybrid is a lot less needed than many realize. By 2030 most of the US will have charging options to cover most needs. Then factor in the pace of change and improvements of batteries and EV tech in general, it makes sense to have EVs as an option. Look how far we have cone since 2014. When 2035 rolls around it will likely seem like a waste to buy ICE of anykind.

I have owned a 2023 Tesla Midel 3 RWD for a year, no problems and chsrging not an issue. I do have solar on my home, but have only used public chargers maybe eight times. Tesla dies make chargind super simple because the charger sees the individual vehicle ID and matches it with your Tesla account. It is usually less than fifteen seconds to connect and begin charging. Hopefully all future charging stations can be made that simple to use. I was spending $300 a month in gas, now it is $85 in electricity. If I would add battery backup to my home, it would be zero cist to refuel, but you can easily spend $30,000 for solar and battery storage. Not uncommon to see $45,000 packages. That would include install. If you had a two vehicle home that spent $500 a month on gas, that would be $6000 a year, so in 7 years you would becahead in most cases. That is not counting government incentives and rebates. Personally, I got $10,000 in rebates on my Tesla and $4000 in rebates on my $19,000 solar.

Go test drive an f150 lightning lariat - you will feel different about your V8 truck

Remember when satellite radio was going to be a huge thing and every car was going to have satellite radio? It turned out that XM was radio for truckers and had a very limited market. In the same way, electric cars are cars for commuters and the market is very limited. Very few people want to take a road trip in an electric car but they are great for commuting 30 miles to work where you can charge up your car. I've seen a lot of EV stations in the boonies and they're barely used. Musk sees that the opportunity is very limited and there's no use in building a bunch of EV charging stations everywhere so he is going to pivot to Al and to Robo taxis. He's not going to waste money on a limited market. He has sold many cars to the commuters but the market is not expanding beyond them as expected

EV's are great they're like a iPhone one fender bender and you need a whole new car.