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So just to confirm, is they way the pitched they product was offensive right? If they were to never go on to Dragon Den, would the product still be cultural appropriation? Side point, tbh, I don’t mind them saying the drink is not ethnic anymore, because is not ethnic as far I can tell. Bobba in some bottle with that weird funky flavour is not the Bobba I grew up drinking and that’s just rude to try to take advantage of Asian culture by positioning it as an Asian drink. Because if you make the claim that it is an Asian drink, I as an Asian , would be more likely to buy it than if you tell me this is a western drink (why? I just like asian food😂), and I will be disappointed if the drink is not Asian enough, which I don’t think it is.

White people are big mad and grasping for straws. Ironically, you racists don't bring up yellow facenin Hollyweird aka anti-china aka anti-Asian aka yellow Peril.

Sugar Hill Gang didn't steal Caz rhymes.....he gave those rhymes to them. It wasn't an act of theft.

Please have Gen Kimura!! Would be such an interesting episode

They better go look @ who brought culture & civilization to china & Japan. Stay humble

“I don’t mind racism” seriously what???

Interesting. I didn't know the amount of independent media getting paid for propaganda. That's a shame, but it's not surprising.

The red flag is not "Ethnically" anymore. What I'd like is several semi-frozen package of fully cooked tapioca pearls that's mass produced. I can cook the tapioca pearls and freeze it but it only lasts several days and it will fall apart for being frozen too long. Also it needs syrup as well freezing it as fast as possible so that the ice crystals won't rip the pearl apart.

So are we gonna shame people who are not Asians of selling Asian products? If that so, Asian culinary arts won’t flourish.

so you're comparing the US to extremely racist countries? Naturally it will look good i comparison. Compare it to some european countries, or maybe even pacific nations, and you get a different picture.

The idea that you cant trust Asian people with your food... this isnt even a debate😮

They could have said we have made a new drink. But what they did was take Bobba and disrespect it in every way.

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Interesting discussion

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They are all corrupt

What do you guys think?

Take off all of the european products you are wearing in this video. The baseball hat, the tshirts, the microphone, video cameras etc. If you are going to talk about cultural appropriation you should be wearing culturally appropriate clothing and gear.

But your friend is a Japanese that Takes influence from reggae r&b and jazz &blues without giving blacks credit and you don't think that's cultural appropriation.

And tapioca ia native to South America.....so hmmm talk about cultural appropriation!!!😅😅

Now you're crazy... America is the most racist country in the world... and for a diverse society, that makes it way worse than Asian countries who are originally a homogeneous society... be a shame of yourself!!

Now that's a good joke.

Simu i wearing a british jacket lol.

Correct. Nothing to do with being Asian. Matt is intelligent and heart centered. This is his draw!

If we’re getting technical about the appropriation aspect, boba’s origins are rooted in bilo bilo, which is a Filipino dessert. Cassava is from South America which is what tapioca starch is produced from. Milk tea was introduced by the British practice of afternoon tea with milk and sugar. It was only 30 or so years ago that bubble tea became a thing in Taiwan. Calling Boba a part of cultural history of the Taiwanese people, when it is in fact an amalgamation of a number of contributing cultures, whereas what the business people in question are doing is appropriation is somewhat hypocritical imo.

I wish you pressed him harder. Matt Kim is charismatic and likeable, but he's just as bad as any modern-day conservative. To be clear, I consider myself a moderate. However, there was no fact checking his rhetoric and his fundamental refusal to acknowledge his political beliefs create exclusion. I personally would love to debate Mr. Kim on some of these topics.

Schwartzenegger ruined CA as he wouldn't sign a bill unless it had a section stating that non-natives could become President. The result was that no budget bills etc were passed. It will be awhile until another Republican gets to be Governor.

Is this pod cast put on by Bidens sponsors

Yes, Trump shows us every single day, just how unfit and criminal he is. His hate is getting worse, not better. His dementia & aphasia is getting worse. His revenge and vindictiveness grows. He's too dangerous. He's uncontrolled. He is pure evil.

What do you guys think? Is the election over and done with?

I’ll remember when you had 64 subs. Only up Bruv. 🎉

says the man who played a korean on a tv show. cultural appropriation my ass.

I remember them saying that boba has no cultural origin, it’s global and therefore it doesn’t have to have an origin label. I agree with the fact that it doesn’t have to have an original label, not that it’s a globally created concept. Boba, the concept, originated in China, bobba(the drink they made?) originated from them.

Tf is this argument I swear to god it’s only Americans that bitch and moan about these things 😂 We all good here in southeast Asia 😂

Why is this even an argument? People take ideas from each other all the time. Should I cry everytime another culture uses anything indigenous American? Considering Chinese people make/sell indigenous knock off items among others all the time.

I'm going to start by commenting on the hip-hop analogy, which I kind of think doesn't fit. I'm African-American, and Black music, including rap, has been a part of my cultural upbringing for as long as I can remember, but some of the rap that was mentioned in his example has been an issue for many people in my culture, because it often glorifies the dangers and issues that exist in Black neighborhoods. Many in my community find it degenerate, because the very things it boasts about are the things many, including myself, have been negatively impacted by, and there's a whole debate in Black spaces anyway about just what impact such music has on an already affected and struggling community, because it's fun for someone to romanticize a gun until they mama is buried because of one, so if someone comes along and calls it degenerate and that they can create something better in hip-hop that does something more impactful, positively speaking, from cultural context, I wouldn't be offended, and from that same context, it, respectfully, feels like an apples-and-oranges comparison when used for this boba issue. Other African Americans may feel different, and I would happily hear their input, but for me, it's...more complicated than the analogy it was being used as. With regard to the boba issue, I honestly feel it was a language issue. When they said it wasn't "ethnical" anymore, myself being a translator and having to, quite often, on the spot gauge what people mean when it comes to nuance, I immediately graspeed that what they meant was it was a drink that can be shared with the world, but words have power, and sometimes the impact of that power can have unintended effects if you don't think about or are unaware of context, because to many native English speakers, "no longer ethnical" can be inferred to mean "removing the cultural aspects" something is known for. I think going forward, for anyone trying to sell something, especially something cross-cultural, if you will, it would be prudent to have a third party who is attuned to nuances and what words can be interpreted as look at or listen to their pitch BEFORE they go to the head honchos, getting insight into how one can better convey what they mean, and more importantly, to be aware of the fact you may not only be trying to sell a product, but when it comes to products that go from one culture to another, you might also have to make it a point to assuage fears that a culture may be disrespected, because let's face it, Asian, Hispanic, Black, and so many other cultures have had to deal with potentially offensive changes, even corruption, of aspects of their culture.

there is no issue in that they wanted to create their own boba drink but you can't disrespect the origins and culture that helped to grow and cultivate boba

You're making assumptions on what Simu thought, and not what he said. I see pizza ads always talking about a healthier version... I don't see Italians go crazy. The other investor pulled out because of the warriors online. They were trying to sell their product as healthier to set themselves apart and get a deal. Also, the market hasn't spoken, it was shit on by Simu. And can I ask this one question - Is Asian a culture? Or is it broken up into individual countries. Like was it appropriating that Simu played a Korean person on a TV show when in fact he is Chinese? We live in a multicultural country and we are now divided more than ever.

Never heard a french men cry culture appropriation when none french restaurants sell french fries. More racial grifting, I hope these two young entrepreneurs sells ther drinks and become sucessful.

an Asian man on a medium like television and the internet that were created by white man is cultural appropriation ...he is stealing white peoples culture to prop himself up and quite frankly its disgusting Asians dont and should not have the right to be on television or the internet it was created by white people and if white ppl cant make a tea then asians cant use tv or the web ,,,, fair is fair

The problem with this situation is ppl are taking what Sima said, and throwing the term cultural approriation like he has something against the company and the owners. He had an issue with the pitch and how they were selling it. Bobba is making itself sound like an innovative company that revolutionized bobba tea when there have been many products exactly like it. If the pitch was "we wanted to take a classic product and do a modern twist" boom that was all that had to be said. But nope the owners wanted to be spontaneous with their product that made no sense. And claim it was "healthy" when the ingredients were a complete opposite. It was basically bobba flavored juice

The great irony is someone of Chinese decent who is famous in Western media lecturing others on cultural appropriation. My number one issue with how we discuss these topics is how much people of Chinese decent cry about cultural appropriation while ignoring the imperialistic history of China. China's whole bag is appropriation. Now let's add to it that boba is a new invention (1980s) the uses cassava. If you didn't know, cassava is from SOUTH AMERICA! Boba wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Europeans and Americans creating a world trade network. Nor would it exist if the people of the Central and South America didn't begin to cultivate this root thousands of years ago. So sorry, but I fail to see how it's cultural appropriation to not list country of origin for a product that's isn't even cultural authentic.

There seems to be a misunderstanding regarding Simu’s message. This issue isn't about race; it’s about cultural appropriation. In my area, there are several boba shops owned by non-Asians that I and many others-both Asian and non-Asian-go to regularly. Simu didn't have an issue with boba itself; he expressed concern about the marketing and branding of the drink as being better, safer, or superior. This was a solid example of text book cultural appropriation, especially when the entrepreneurs claimed that boba is no longer an ethnical drink and suggested they reinvented something that has existed since the 80s. Boba originated in Taiwan and spread to many East and Southeast Asian countries through the Chinese diaspora in the 90s, becoming part of the everyday life and culture of these regions long ago. To be fair, the entrepreneurs didn’t seem fluent in English, which may have affected their pitch. Overall, I don’t believe Simu has an issue with the race of the business owners. Nor do I believe the business owners had any ill intent to put down the history and culture of boba. The problem is with marketing and branding. If they had said their drink was inspired by boba and that they wanted to put their own spin on it, there wouldn’t be a controversy, and we wouldn’t be having these debates. As I've said, non-Asians have just as much right as anyone else to open boba shops and Asian cuisine restaurants, as long as it’s done with genuine appreciation and respect for the roots of the culture. I've been to several ramen restaurants owned and operated by non-asians that taste amazing. And it's very evident that the chefs have invested a lot of time and learning about the cuisine and history. That is what I would call cultural appreciation. It's about the how or the approach versus the "what" is being sold. Unfortunately, this wasn’t the case with the Bobba business owners, who made several negative remarks about the drink and failed to recognize its significance in Taiwanese culture and the Chinese diaspora.

Taiwan can pull a Greece or France thing where it can only be called boba if it comes from taiwan specifically lol not like greece invented feta cheese but you can't call it feta unless its theirs (bulgarian sheep milk cheese is way better if anyone cares lol)

Is it really cultural appropriation when their partner are Taiwanese and literally their manufacturers are from Taiwan? Looking at their business they marketed themselves as selling Popping Boba with real fruit juice. Most popping boba are made with artificial flavors and the closest thing i saw was popping boba brand that market themselves selling 25% real fruit juice. I'm sure the idea of real fruit juice and alcoholic popping boba is their idea but the setup and manufacturing is Taiwanese. But it was dumb of them to talk especially when they A. Obviously have a language barrier and B. having bad communication skills. C. Not looking Asian or getting their Taiwanese partner out to speak for them.

Sorry but Asians and everyone else are guilty of cultural appropriation . Let's be very clear here. How many times have you watched TikTok's go viral after being taken from those in the inner city??? Dance styles obviously copied are never given proper credit.. When songs are re-created without proper credit, where is the noise then? It's funny how it works once way.

The only issue I have with the tea is that it looks ass.🤢 doesn’t matter who made them. Taiwanese, Chinese Korean Local Bubble tea places are already on next level and years ahead. Why drink canned crap when you can just customise your own drink freshly made in almost every street corner? Most Asians I know don’t settle for less😂 it’s also not a necessity drink and it’s often unhealthy

I want to point something out boba is from yucca plant which is indigenous to the Americas. If anything people jocking off native people same thing with tomatoes in italy .

But did everyone miss the part when they said that they are working with their Taiwanese partners in making the product.