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Gabriel sampling day 13
This is Gabriel H.’s descriptive experience sampling (DES) interview 13 (of 13).
You can find an annotated transcript of this interview (as well as an introduction and commentary about all the interviews) as Part VIII of the series “Do I Have Inner Monologue”: hurlburt.faculty.unlv.edu/lena/do_I_have_internal_monologue_sampling.html
Gabriel is a senior with philosophy interests at my university whom I had never met. He volunteered as a Descriptive Experience Sampling (DES) participant because of his interest in the intersection of DES and philosophy. I agreed, if we could make his sampling part of the DES training of a graduate student.
The interviews were conducted by RTH (the originator of DES), Amber Goto (the graduate student), and Cody Kaneshiro (another more advanced graduate student). Because of Gabriel's analytical interests, over the course of sampling, there is discussion of many philosophical issues related to DES.
You can find an annotated transcript of this interview (as well as an introduction and commentary about all the interviews) as Part VIII of the series “Do I Have Inner Monologue”: hurlburt.faculty.unlv.edu/lena/do_I_have_internal_monologue_sampling.html
Gabriel is a senior with philosophy interests at my university whom I had never met. He volunteered as a Descriptive Experience Sampling (DES) participant because of his interest in the intersection of DES and philosophy. I agreed, if we could make his sampling part of the DES training of a graduate student.
The interviews were conducted by RTH (the originator of DES), Amber Goto (the graduate student), and Cody Kaneshiro (another more advanced graduate student). Because of Gabriel's analytical interests, over the course of sampling, there is discussion of many philosophical issues related to DES.
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Gabriel sampling day 12
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This is Gabriel H.’s descriptive experience sampling (DES) interview 12 (of 13). You can find an annotated transcript of this interview (as well as an introduction and commentary about all the interviews) as Part VIII of the series “Do I Have Inner Monologue”: hurlburt.faculty.unlv.edu/lena/do_I_have_internal_monologue_sampling.html Gabriel is a senior with philosophy interests at my university...
Mel sampling interview 10
Переглядів 1572 місяці тому
n this extraordinary set of interviews with Mel, we have the opportunity to compare DES-as-read-about-and-implemented-by-an-outsider (Julian Bass-Krueger) to DES-as-written-and-practiced-by-its-creator (Russ Hurlburt). Russ and Julian's back-and-forth commentary provides significant insight into how to investigate inner experience like a series of DES masterclasses. A word-for-word transcript w...
Mel sampling interview 7
Переглядів 233 місяці тому
In this extraordinary set of interviews with Mel, we have the opportunity to compare DES-as-read-about-and-implemented-by-an-outsider (Julian Bass-Krueger) to DES-as-written-and-practiced-by-its-creator (Russ Hurlburt). Russ and Julian's back-and-forth commentary provides significant insight into how to investigate inner experience like a series of DES masterclasses. A word-for-word transcript ...
Mel sampling interview 6
Переглядів 234 місяці тому
In this extraordinary set of interviews with Mel, we have the opportunity to compare DES-as-read-about-and-implemented-by-an-outsider (Julian Bass-Krueger) to DES-as-written-and-practiced-by-its-creator (Russ Hurlburt). Russ and Julian's back-and-forth commentary provides significant insight into how to investigate inner experience like a series of DES masterclasses. A word-for-word transcript ...
Mel interview minus1 (Mel, Julian, and Russ meet for the first time)
Переглядів 544 місяці тому
In this extraordinary set of interviews with Mel, we have the opportunity to compare DES-as-read-about-and-implemented-by-an-outsider (Julian Bass-Krueger) to DES-as-written-and-practiced-by-its-creator (Russ Hurlburt). Russ and Julian's back-and-forth commentary provides significant insight into how to investigate inner experience like a series of DES masterclasses. This is the initial meeting...
Mel sampling interview 1
Переглядів 574 місяці тому
In this extraordinary set of interviews with Mel, we have the opportunity to compare DES-as-read-about-and-implemented-by-an-outsider (Julian Bass-Krueger) to DES-as-written-and-practiced-by-its-creator (Russ Hurlburt). Russ and Julian's back-and-forth commentary provides significant insight into how to investigate inner experience like a series of DES masterclasses. A word-for-word transcript ...
Mel sampling interview 2
Переглядів 324 місяці тому
In this extraordinary set of interviews with Mel, we have the opportunity to compare DES-as-read-about-and-implemented-by-an-outsider (Julian Bass-Krueger) to DES-as-written-and-practiced-by-its-creator (Russ Hurlburt). Russ and Julian's back-and-forth commentary provides significant insight into how to investigate inner experience like a series of DES masterclasses. A word-for-word transcript ...
Mel sampling interview 3
Переглядів 204 місяці тому
In this extraordinary set of interviews with Mel, we have the opportunity to compare DES-as-read-about-and-implemented-by-an-outsider (Julian Bass-Krueger) to DES-as-written-and-practiced-by-its-creator (Russ Hurlburt). Russ and Julian's back-and-forth commentary provides significant insight into how to investigate inner experience like a series of DES masterclasses. A word-for-word transcript ...
Mel sampling interview 5
Переглядів 174 місяці тому
In this extraordinary set of interviews with Mel, we have the opportunity to compare DES-as-read-about-and-implemented-by-an-outsider (Julian Bass-Krueger) to DES-as-written-and-practiced-by-its-creator (Russ Hurlburt). Russ and Julian's back-and-forth commentary provides significant insight into how to investigate inner experience like a series of DES masterclasses. A word-for-word transcript ...
Mel sampling interview 4
Переглядів 144 місяці тому
In this extraordinary set of interviews with Mel, we have the opportunity to compare DES-as-read-about-and-implemented-by-an-outsider (Julian Bass-Krueger) to DES-as-written-and-practiced-by-its-creator (Russ Hurlburt). Russ and Julian's back-and-forth commentary provides significant insight into how to investigate inner experience like a series of DES masterclasses. A word-for-word transcript ...
Mel interview 0 (DES introduction)
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In this extraordinary set of interviews with Mel, we have the opportunity to compare DES-as-read-about-and-implemented-by-an-outsider (Julian Bass-Krueger) to DES-as-written-and-practiced-by-its-creator (Russ Hurlburt). Russ and Julian's back-and-forth commentary provides significant insight into how to investigate inner experience like a series of DES masterclasses. Here, Russ explains the DES...
Michael Pollan DES interview 3
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New York Times best-selling author Michael Pollan participates in descriptive experience sampling. This is his third sampling day. A word-for-word transcript with informative commentary is Part IX of hurlburt.faculty.unlv.edu/lena/do_I_have_internal_monologue_sampling.html
Michael Pollan DES debriefing interview
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Michael Pollan DES debriefing interview
Michael initially interviews Russ (audio recording)
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Michael initially interviews Russ (audio recording)
I doubt very much that this ‘data’ is worthy for a master thesis !
Is there really a 6th sampling coming?
Thanks for pointing out a mistake in the website. There are indeed only five Olivia days. I fixed the website.--Russ
i like the slo mo at the end, it had me at the edge of my seat, i was like, wait did he pause it or is he moving??? niceee in all seriousness tho, thanks so much for your amazing work!
Thanks so much for posting these up! Much appreciated. This is really important work.
Glad to hear it's resonating! If you really want a deep dive, we go all-in the commentary on the transcripts: chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/hurlburt.faculty.unlv.edu/lena/mel/mel%20interview%206%20transcript%20with%20commentary.pdf
This was really good - subtle and thoughtful and clear. Thanks for posting it all!
Michael Pollan! That's big for DES
The deeper implications are profound..if you can imagine that.
I love reading along with your annotated PDF. It's a meditation on the most direct retelling of experience. It's HARD to nail down
So your catching the thoughts just before the beep? Because I would have lots of thoughts about the beeps if I had to write down what I was thinking it would be “oh, your beeping again” “hello friend you beeping again” “how do I turn you off” So you would have to get the thoughts going on prior to the beep entering and altering your mind. Correct?
You are a miracle person.... I'm forever grateful to see you speak in a video. Thank you. Your conclusion has changed my worldview and where I am. Thank you.
I have absolutely no idea what’s going on but as another fellow Gabriel H I feel fascinated to know what else we get up to in our spare time
This video needs to blow up like Ryans video did
Thank you for posting each of your DES interview series to youtube. These have been helpful in learning about myself
Thank you for this research! (It is a touch unfortunate to hear the planes and grind through the misc./setup/cheduling talk, but so glad to see the video!)
Thank you for this!
I have to get in on this experiment 🙏🏾
Wow, what an interestingly alluring series. I would love to do this with Russ and Alec. I respect this vocation greatly and am inspired by their look into the human experience.
I'm glad that you are studying inner experience this deep way. Me and my wife had disagreement about emotional burden and if she is shifting it to me. The only way for me was making her feel the same way as I was (very bad). Maybe your study will help avoid this 🙂
very nice explanation
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So happy I found this channel. Gonna binge watch allll of these interviews in the next few days. This is extremely interesting.
It blows my mind that there isn't more about this out there I ask almost every person I meet if they have an inner dialogue lol most interesting thing ever lol
Thank you for these videos.
How do I get to do this? I’ve always been told I think “different” the older I get the more I understand people don’t think the same way I do and have gotten better at communicating my ideas. Things and certain ways I can think are so hard to explain. I’d love to get a more understanding of it and if it’s normal but I just suck at communicating my ideas or people just don’t just don’t think that way.
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Here’s an exercise for the reader: Is there any difference between (a) “What I have noted down is ‘general unspecified thought slash visualization of my own child being upset’.” and (b) “What I have noted down is ‘general unspecified thought slash visualization of Aspasia being upset’.” __________ My response would be: the experience is os Aspasia, as in Olivia experiments Aspasia as Aspasia, not "as her own child". When she thinks about her, I don't think she is thinking "my own child", she thinks of her as Aspasia, and she being her child is just a fact of the Universe that she knows already.
Hey! Olivia is left-handed! I noticed she moves her left hand to say "I have a pencil and I'm writing" (and later in the video she says she is left-handed. I wonder if in the following interviews we'll discover if she experiences words in a different way?
Thank you very much for continue to share this videos as well as the transcripts for the interviews! Please, continue to do so! I've watched everything that is available and still can't get enough of how different inner experience can be. I've actually read Professor Hulburt's "Investigating Pristine Inner Experience" and I'm waiting (impatiently) for "Sampling Inner Experience in Disturbed Affect" but unfortunately it is not available in this moment . Learning about others' pristine inner experience and the DES method has been so enlightening for me. It opens so many questions to possibilites. Possibilities and facts that have always been there, but we never notice. Somehow we are blind to our own experiences. If we consider that one little pristine experience plus another little pristine experience make up a bunch of inner experiences and that ends up being the way a human uniquely experiences life -and therefore uniquely interacts, reacts, changes, learns, believes, feels..... I've come to think that this method and these studies might someday change the way we understand ourselves, others, and the practice of modern Psycology and Psychiatry. I wonder if there's a way to volunteer for one of these studies?
this is getting very philosophical, I didn't expect haha
I'm amazed more people haven't come to see how this works.
Very interesting topic and thank you for sharing and letting us in to see a glimpse of how you investigate what is going on in a persons mind. 🙏
There are many aspects of this interview that are very interesting like just hearing the difference in thought to myself... but the most interesting things is hearing that most people are not presently and consciously aware of what their conscious experience. I am quite often aware of my own experience. Like my own conscious acts as the beeper to bring my awareness to my present internal experience. I can't say i've always done this because i simply don't look back often enough to remember, and i didn't know it was any abnormal thing that i should realize i'm doing. And i am more future focused in my mindset. But i do know i've been doing it for at least 5 to 10 years.. i'm 28
30:17 Would you say that the meta awareness is a result of anxiety inducing experiences or that people with meta awareness are more prone to anxiety? Meaning, which one comes first?
Fascinating to see the process. I'm not aware of you describing this rectification process in your writing (for example different types of thinking/nothing). Have you always analyzed samples like this? Is it something you started to do recently?
"Always" is a long time. We have always done some informal version. We formalized the process in 2015. It is mentioned (briefly) in Brouwers et al. 2018, but we have never published a description of the process that does it justice. Probably we should.
@@RussHurlburt thanks!
Way too few people saw these videos :(
She mentions imagining people with a translucence, I have the same experience when I impose, overlay objects/people into situations or imagine what is behind the people or objects with my eyes open. My eyes closed experience I can imagine richer colors and solid objects/people/scenes.
There was this teen girl that ended up transitioning her gender to male, and then decided it was a mistake so transitioned back to female. She said that one of her major issues was when she started testosterone, her voice dropped and body changed so she sounded and looked a sounded male... But when she heard her voice in her head for her inner monolog, it was still her old female voice. And when she pictured herself in her head or had dreams, she still saw her pre-transition appearance. So she said she felt like she was living a lie or a double life and the mismatch caused a real identity crisis feeling. But I suspect that after a few years, both would have adapted. (Except for maybe occasional dreams).
I'd seriously pay a million dollars to stop hearing myself talk in my head. I never shut the hell up lol And I hear on 2 simultaneous levels at once... So as my inner monolog is going on, I frequently hear music behind it. Drives me INSANEEE!! Brains are so interesting. I love that this research is being done =)
Thanks for sharing these with us... God I wish I could do this! It's amazing when you find out how vastly different people's thoughts and experiences are~
Very interesting. Love this stuff! I may have complete aphantasia... But you guys would be *terrified* if you could HEAR what's going on in my head 😂 I hear _crystal_ clear; both sounds and my voice on 2-3 overlapping levels, 24/7! 😵 Neuroscience is so awesome~
59:28 Seems like they would be more in-tune to actual sensory experience and the present moment??
59:28 Any archived DES transcripts or papers for those not reporting inner experience??
This is so interesting!! Thanks for sharing this with us :)
it is like "letting your guard down" ? the ability to not focus on having to jump up and respond to anything. The ability to let all your muscles "cease functioning" thus letting you "sink into the couch." So many things going on in the head, at times... It takes sooo long to verbalize the actions in my head to others, in my experience. Maybe like my mind being a race car and my verbalization being like a go cart. It is interesting to hear others explain who they also experience some of the same things I do.
Based on the videos I've watched since finding out people have internal monologues (I do not), it seems like the people who do have a more difficult time describing their thought processes and occurrences than I do. Is this common? This may be because they are in a study and their thoughts are being interrupted, but for me, I can pull my thoughts (words and concepts) back to the forefront very quickly and easily. I can mentally open the compartment and pull those words back to the forefront without much difficulty at all. Also, is their a link between recall rates and or percentage of recall (on a spectrum of having a photographic memory or having memory issues) and people who have inner monologues versus those who do not?
Jenna, my personal experience includes a lot of visual inner dialogue and some inner verbal dialogue (also sound, sensation intermixed). The times when I have a lot going on internally I would say it is like watching a movie, having a conversation with someone, and thinking about what I have to get done that day. All of these are overlapping. The "movie" has all the details of a movie - visual, action, auditory, plot, ect.; the conversation includes the dialogue I am going to say, the reaction of the other person, the response of the other person (mannerism and verbal); the "to do list" includes one task to many tasks and the steps/supplies needed to complete said task. All three of these, with their details, are inter-playing in my head. Sometimes they are "on top" of each other and other times one is the primary focus and the others are in the background. I can keep up with the process of all.... Now, the hard part... the thoughts are so fast and intertwined. Someone asks, "What are you thinking?" I have to try to pause those internal thoughts and focus on the conversation, all as those things are still going on in my head. Then I have to decide which one to unravel first and explain one at a time, so you understand. As I am explaining I have to focus on just one and explain it separately and linearly to allow you the ability to understand what I was thinking. Just a quick attempt to explain from one person's view.
Maybe that projection machine is not so out of reach: ua-cam.com/video/bqkUbiUkR5k/v-deo.html
Ad. second sample and the word "wondering": I checked occurrence of the word "zastanawiać się" (wondering) in Polish corpus. The usage clearly indicate that it means some kind of asking. So when Lena refers to her wondering she uses words "what life was like [...]". Verbalisation of the part "life was like for the people who lived..." was redundant, not economic, since - she had a representation of this content in the form of visualisation... but the word "what" and the feeling attached to it (curiosity) could be in her experience. I think it would be useful to ask in such cases, whether the question word was experienced (in the form of inner speech).
In first experience sampling seem to be (1) inner seeing (of outside scene of UNLV), (2) inner speaking ("graduate students interested in neuroscience), (3) intention ("just to see possibilities about UNLV"), (4) getting the meaning. Is it fair to say, that It's quite clear how (1) and (2) was present in mind, but it's not clear how intention was experienced and the meaning?
1st Beep: 5:26 Before this is a discussion of the length of the beep.
This was awesome!
It's interesting that her visualizations are wavey and delayed. Mine are clear.