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Forging a San Mai Chopper from Welding Rods
Elijah of Fire Creek Forge uses one of the most ubiquitous welding rods available together with some 80CRV2 strong core steel to make a very cool large chopper knife using a San Mai layered forging technique.
00:00 Open the welding rod electrodes. Remove the flux form the arc welding rod electrodes to get down to bare steel. Hammering off the flux from the dry rods was the best approach.
0:54 Build a steel canister for the materials to keep the forge welding process atmosphere free to make the billet for the knife
1:12 use a drill and abrasive paper to remove the remainder of the flux from the arc welding rods
1:34 cut the cleaned rods to length to fit tightly in the canister. The inside of the canister is coated with white paint to prevent the contents from welding to the can, because the titanium dioxide of the white paint creates a thin non-welding barrier.
2:10 Add 1084 powdered steel for a strong contrast between the high carbon 1084 steel and the mild steel of the welding electrodes. Fill the canister and lightly knock with a hammer to eliminate voids
2:49 weld up the top of the canister. Leave a pin hole or drill a very small vent for expanding air to escape during the forge weld to prevent canister bursting. Heat the canister in the forge, and use the forge welding press to complete the process of building the billet.
3:25 free the solid chunk steel from the canister. Sometimes there is cracking on the corners but all the small steel rods improved the dispersion of tension so this billet appear nice and solid.
3:57 use the forge and flat dies on the forging press to form the steel billet into a flat bar.
4:10 Cut some grooves into the billet to introduce more patterning. Flatten the channels and draw the billet out longer and wider using the forge and forging press.
5:00 Cut the billet in half and clean up inside face of both halves to add high carbon steel in the middle. While the 1084 would make a decent blade edge, the abundance of mild steel from the welding rods requires more strength. Introduce the layer of 80CRV2 high carbon steel as a center layer to create a type of San Mai construction and provide the high carbon edge of the final knife. Forge weld the sandwich billet
6:22 After forge welding flatten and draw out the billet, address any delaminations, and cut an angle in the end to serve as the pre-form for the tip of the knife.
6:40 Begin drawing out the tang, and then draw the tip so that the central blade steel follows the geometry of the knife design. Use the forging press with the round dies to widen the work and modify to follow the blade design.
8:58 Begin narrowing the bevel so the San Mai or cladding is extended fully to the edge of the blade instead of revealing only about halfway up. The profile emerging from this final forming is like a classic Hudson Bay camp knife used by trappers for various camp chores.
9:46 Forging is complete. Normalize and begin the heat treating process, which are focused on the core steel which is 80CRV2. Complete annealing process
10:03 Cleanup the profile using the KMG-TX 2x72 belt grinder and its flat platen, and the small wheel attachment on the classic KMG.
11:00 Finish grind the blade with Beaumont KMG belt grinding equipment after a couple of tempering cycles. Pay attention to where the cladding is in relation to the 80CRV2 core steel. Clean and consistent forging together with balanced grinding will help keep that important middle layer centered. A ferric chloride dip early in the blade’s finish grinding will enable visual confirmation and help you make grinding adjustments as needed.
11:47 use the Beaumont rotary platen attachment on the KMG grinder for a supported slack grind to impart a consistent convex surface onto the knife.
12:04 Grind out the small inclusion using the 10 inch contact wheel on the KMG-TX. Inclusions run the risk of ferric chloride to seep into the blade during etching. Confirm shaving sharpness and then do a chop test
12:38 Edge deformation is visible after the chop test. If the heat treat is good, the next thing to look at is knife blade geometry. The knife edge may have been suitable for slicing action of kitchen cutlery, but was simply too thin for this more powerful chopper design. After re-profiling the edge on the KMG belt grinder, another shaving and chop test sequence confirmed re-profiling through grinding was successful.
13:44 Hand sand the blade, and then etch, and clean off the oxides about every 10 or 20 minutes. This mild steel etches differently than something like a nickel steel and required more etching to get the desired high contrast.
14:22 Install the olive drab canvas micarta handle and hand sand
00:00 Open the welding rod electrodes. Remove the flux form the arc welding rod electrodes to get down to bare steel. Hammering off the flux from the dry rods was the best approach.
0:54 Build a steel canister for the materials to keep the forge welding process atmosphere free to make the billet for the knife
1:12 use a drill and abrasive paper to remove the remainder of the flux from the arc welding rods
1:34 cut the cleaned rods to length to fit tightly in the canister. The inside of the canister is coated with white paint to prevent the contents from welding to the can, because the titanium dioxide of the white paint creates a thin non-welding barrier.
2:10 Add 1084 powdered steel for a strong contrast between the high carbon 1084 steel and the mild steel of the welding electrodes. Fill the canister and lightly knock with a hammer to eliminate voids
2:49 weld up the top of the canister. Leave a pin hole or drill a very small vent for expanding air to escape during the forge weld to prevent canister bursting. Heat the canister in the forge, and use the forge welding press to complete the process of building the billet.
3:25 free the solid chunk steel from the canister. Sometimes there is cracking on the corners but all the small steel rods improved the dispersion of tension so this billet appear nice and solid.
3:57 use the forge and flat dies on the forging press to form the steel billet into a flat bar.
4:10 Cut some grooves into the billet to introduce more patterning. Flatten the channels and draw the billet out longer and wider using the forge and forging press.
5:00 Cut the billet in half and clean up inside face of both halves to add high carbon steel in the middle. While the 1084 would make a decent blade edge, the abundance of mild steel from the welding rods requires more strength. Introduce the layer of 80CRV2 high carbon steel as a center layer to create a type of San Mai construction and provide the high carbon edge of the final knife. Forge weld the sandwich billet
6:22 After forge welding flatten and draw out the billet, address any delaminations, and cut an angle in the end to serve as the pre-form for the tip of the knife.
6:40 Begin drawing out the tang, and then draw the tip so that the central blade steel follows the geometry of the knife design. Use the forging press with the round dies to widen the work and modify to follow the blade design.
8:58 Begin narrowing the bevel so the San Mai or cladding is extended fully to the edge of the blade instead of revealing only about halfway up. The profile emerging from this final forming is like a classic Hudson Bay camp knife used by trappers for various camp chores.
9:46 Forging is complete. Normalize and begin the heat treating process, which are focused on the core steel which is 80CRV2. Complete annealing process
10:03 Cleanup the profile using the KMG-TX 2x72 belt grinder and its flat platen, and the small wheel attachment on the classic KMG.
11:00 Finish grind the blade with Beaumont KMG belt grinding equipment after a couple of tempering cycles. Pay attention to where the cladding is in relation to the 80CRV2 core steel. Clean and consistent forging together with balanced grinding will help keep that important middle layer centered. A ferric chloride dip early in the blade’s finish grinding will enable visual confirmation and help you make grinding adjustments as needed.
11:47 use the Beaumont rotary platen attachment on the KMG grinder for a supported slack grind to impart a consistent convex surface onto the knife.
12:04 Grind out the small inclusion using the 10 inch contact wheel on the KMG-TX. Inclusions run the risk of ferric chloride to seep into the blade during etching. Confirm shaving sharpness and then do a chop test
12:38 Edge deformation is visible after the chop test. If the heat treat is good, the next thing to look at is knife blade geometry. The knife edge may have been suitable for slicing action of kitchen cutlery, but was simply too thin for this more powerful chopper design. After re-profiling the edge on the KMG belt grinder, another shaving and chop test sequence confirmed re-profiling through grinding was successful.
13:44 Hand sand the blade, and then etch, and clean off the oxides about every 10 or 20 minutes. This mild steel etches differently than something like a nickel steel and required more etching to get the desired high contrast.
14:22 Install the olive drab canvas micarta handle and hand sand
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Now only if it was the easy to add a few inches 😂
Amazing work
Funny
Do these smaller rubber wheels used here have a lower recommended rpm speed? I've read only 3200 rpm for the rams Bralin smaller rubber wheels which is not nearly fast enough.
Thanks this is great, I wish I could find those rubber wheels here in Australia for the grinder I'm making
This helped thank you. 👍
tommy great video my name is mark i have a OBM grinder and purchased there new rotary platen they make cant wait to try it out how loose or tight should you run the rubber belt? or does it all depend on what your grinding appreciate any advice new to knife making only been doing it a couple years now 👍👍✌ Mark
Cant get mine head around that tension ratchet, On TW90 it is ratchet and arm with roller, not connected, and tension is via spring, here it seams one piece, how that tension work ?, it is solid rigid tension of belt, or it act like springy tension ? for example when you hard push materia when grinding, on one place of belt it release tension o belt on another it increase tension, spring usualy level thise diferences, but here it seems it is rigid tension. ty for unswere.
What is the proper setup for wiring input 110 and output 110 for iuse like a variable resistor to control the speed of a 110 motor? And which wires go where? 110 has a neutral and a hot. How do I do that? I have the 1 hp model VFR.
Great explanation of this grinder, really valuable information. Thanks!
How long do you make them ?
Great job. Great video and explanations. I would go one step further and "blue" it up.
Great job
Definitely going to try that pattern once I have my shop running! Awesome work
You got to be kidding me My mom fell for this sh!t when i was a kid you want to buy a Vacuum Cleaner
It does it all
Awesome video Derek. Very cool to see your shop and your skills.
I'm somewhat confused on how the height/tension from ratchet determines wheel being square both horizontally and vertically
The rust on the Unit is a nightmare! Tried everything…..any suggestions?
It's kinda hard to relate with all that fancy spotless equipment
Man, you have all the toys...
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I have watched this three times and very much admire the quality of your work. Also…don’t think I have seen on any other smithy channel a shop as clean as yours plus all the big-dollar toys as well! 😁
Very Nice Platen with an Excellent explanation Thank You
Can’t wait for mine to arrive!
Very nice forge work, I really like that treadle hammer. I might have to try to build one someday.
If ya don't have a 3000 dollar power hammer no money to be made here. But they do look nice
I have been making knives for years and just learned a lot in this 11 minute video. Outstanding. Using a 123 block like that is brilliant.
Does it also help reduce the noise?
Thank the Machining gods for giving a CNC
idea is good .. but as you pushing and pulling that guide back and forth ...i can see it wobbling ...may need to tweek the design a bit
come on your super funded !!! quide of cool if you dont need joke
I need one
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Be nice if you could tell us where to get the glass.
Beaumont Metal Works has the glass available on its website.
Hi Ed. I actually ordered one of these a couple of decades ago when you did the original video. I can say you did an outstanding job in the design and love using it.
That is so typical of Ed Caffrey ... outstanding work that makes you love it! Right on!!
Does that one still fit the Wilton square wheel grinders? I still use mine. I could use that for my machine.
If you email some pictures and maybe measurements to us at Info@BeaumontMetalWorks.com with your contact information we can work to answer that question for you!
Any way I can get some general dimensions to rig it to my BEE grinder?
The surface grinder attachment connect to the 1.5 inch square tool arm of the KMG and KMG-TX 2x72 belt grinders. The support plate for the unit attaches to the bottom of the tool arm, while the contact wheel spindle is on the top of the same tool arm. The tri-helix contact wheel is 3 inches wide (and 2.5 in diameter) with its edge starting a half inch away from the tool arm. Hopefully that helps!
Whoa!!! This is so cool!
Derek Melton makes cool things working in a very hot shop. No wonder we love him!
First class package to make your Life.
Thank you!
goooood !
We love to hear that! Thank you!
That's super slick..
Thank you so much!!!
Awesome job and awesome tools in your shop only one can dream of. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Would you be kind enough to let me know that is it available with single phase 1.5 or 2 HP motor with matching Vfd and how much is it please your response would be highly appreciated.
This is available on our website at BeaumontMetalWorks.com
Is it available with single phase 220 volts 1.5 or 2 HP motor and how much is it with a matching Vfd please ??? your response would be highly appreciated please ❤️❤️
How much is that gonna cost me. ?
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It's very beautiful how much it's
Hi sir I have learnt pretty much useful stuff which appeared to be extremely helpful in my mechanical job. Thank you sir for enlightening me with your knowledge . Love from India, Kolkata
Do you have a store of some sort... Where you sell this items?
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👏👏👏 Excelente! 👍