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Smash Up Customs: Exodia
I'm back with my second (and final) custom faction in collaboration with Reddit user Captain_Cardboard.
This time I'm taking a look at a faction inspired by Exodia the Forbidden One from Yu-Gi-Oh.
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Відео

Smash Up Disney Opening and First Impressions Part 1 (Aladdin, Big Hero 6, Frozen, Wreck-It Ralph)
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My first time trying this type of format. Apologies for the background humming. Didn't realise my laptop fan was going crazy until watching the footage. Unboxing - (0:00) Aladdin - (3:48) Frozen - (15:53) Wreck-It Ralph (29:41) Big Hero 6 - (45:22)
Smash Up Customs: Magicians
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It has been a while.
My Smash Up Expansion Purchase Guide
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Today I go over which Smash Up expansion I think are essential, and which you can pass on.
Smash Up: The Alternative All Stars
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A viewer challenged me to create an alternative All Star faction from the factions that weren't selected for the actual All Stars! How did I do?
My Favourite Factions: Grannies
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Today I look at another one of my favourite factions, the Grannies!
My Favourite Factions: Ancient Incas
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In this series I discuss some of my favourite factions and what I like about them. This time it's the Ancient Incas.
Who Wants to be a Smash Up Millionaire: Extreme Edition w/Crank It Up
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Today Jim from Crank It Up joins me for an extra difficult edition of Who Wants to be a Smash Up Millionaire. Can he take the million? Jim's channel: ua-cam.com/users/CrankItUpfeatured Introduction (0:00) £100 (3:06) £200 (3:44) £300 (4:44) £500 (6:28) £1,000 (7:36) £2,000 (9:10) £4,000 (13:11) £8,000 (18:33) £16,000 (28:08) £32,000 (34:52) £64,000 (36:35) £125,000 (44:26) £250,000 (49:07) £500...
Who Wants to be a Smash Up Millionaire: The Dreamer
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Last up it's Luke, but will he go the furthest?
Who Wants to be a Smash Up Millionaire: I Was Robbed!
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Next up, it's me
Who Wants to be a Smash Up Millionaire: The Gambler
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Who will go away with the £1,000,000?
Reworking the Core Set - The Wizards
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Half way through now, this time I take a look to see how the Wizards could be tweaked if they were being released today.
The Best Card in... Smash Up: Quarters, Semis, Final
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We finally reach the end of our long journey to find the best card in Smash Up. But which of the final 8 will it be?
What's the Worst Card in Smash Up?
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We've done the best card in each expansion, but what do we think is the worst card in the game?
The Best Card in... Smash Up: Round 1 Champion of Champions
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Complete the next round of the survey here: forms.gle/xNdJocM36hRH89g47 We're finally here. Round 1 of the Champion of Champions tournament. Who will be eliminated at this final stage?
Champion of Champions Tournament Community Survey
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Champion of Champions Tournament Community Survey
Champion of Champions Draw and Series Recap
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Champion of Champions Draw and Series Recap
The Best Card in... Episode #16: Awesome Level 9000
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The Best Card in... Episode #16: Awesome Level 9000
The Best Card In... Episode #15: Culture Shock
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The Best Card In... Episode #15: Culture Shock
The Best Card in... Episode #14: Munchkin
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The Best Card in... Episode #14: Munchkin
The Best Card in... Episode #13: Oops, You Did It Again
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The Best Card in... Episode #13: Oops, You Did It Again
(Audio only) What I DON'T like about Smash Up. Part 2: Playing the Game and its Mechanics.
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(Audio only) What I DON'T like about Smash Up. Part 2: Playing the Game and its Mechanics.
The Best Card in... Episode #12: Promos
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The Best Card in... Episode #12: Promos
The Best Card in... Episode #11: That 70's Expansion.
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The Best Card in... Episode #11: That 70's Expansion.
My Top 10 Favourite Card Arts (#10-6) #Shorts
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My Top 10 Favourite Card Arts (#10-6) #Shorts
The Best Card in... Episode #10: Pretty Pretty
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The Best Card in... Episode #10: Pretty Pretty
Smash Up: Four Tips to Improve Your Competitive Game
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Smash Up: Four Tips to Improve Your Competitive Game
The Best Card in... Episode #9: World Tour International Incident
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The Best Card in... Episode #9: World Tour International Incident
Rating each Local #Shorts
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Rating each Local #Shorts
The Best Card in... Episode #8: The Obligatory Cthulu Set
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The Best Card in... Episode #8: The Obligatory Cthulu Set

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  • @Bundeskaiser
    @Bundeskaiser 2 місяці тому

    All Star factions are fun. I never got why they gave Geeks 2 cards in the deck, though. Not that there wouldn't have been a lot of stuff to choose from. Was it really just to have 1 minion and 1 action from each set and treating Geeks as a 1 deck set? World Champs were able to do this with far less factions, without overrepresenting a faction over others. For this reason, I swapped Non-Infinite Loop in my revised All Star deck with Swashbuckling. This gives the core set 1 more representation as it is the largest set and prevents overrepresentation of Geeks. As the cherry on the cake, I also gave them a titan: Big Funny Giant to give them 4 total cards from the core set. While both cards do not provide the biggest value for them, BFG helps with their theme of getting the best cards fast (and probably first), so the stall tactics from BFG could somewhat help. And Swashbuckling is a good utility action. Of course, it isn't the 1 minion and 1 action from split from each set but I think a titan is good enough. Of course, Geeks only have 1 card left now but I think as they are only 1 deck, it's fair. I focused more on set representation than the deck representation. I wanted to do a Munchkin All Stars deck but with only 8 factions this would leave me with 16 cards (2 from each). So I would be forced to use 4 factions thrice. Not ideal. Regarding your All Stars 2.0: I would give them neither minion from the Cthulhu set, both have more interesting actions that you could choose. Field Trip would be a great action to use in such a deck. New Acolytes is a good pick, though. If you want to stick to the 1:1 split, then you're screwed as just neither of the minions works without the proper context (I think the only option then would be to combine Recruitment and either Professor or Psychologist). I think the selection of 2s in this one is terrible, except Flock. But considering the choices you had, this was expected.

  • @chancethompson4311
    @chancethompson4311 4 місяці тому

    I still await the next video 🫡

  • @gaminganime3279
    @gaminganime3279 6 місяців тому

    Can you combine the smash up core with other expansión? I have the Cthulhu expantion and kinda looks incompatible

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 6 місяців тому

      You can combine any smash up set with any other smash up set!

    • @gaminganime3279
      @gaminganime3279 6 місяців тому

      @@ThatSmashUpChannel Thank you so much, love the content. I am becoming a SU enthusiast

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 6 місяців тому

      @@gaminganime3279 Enjoy! A back catalogue now as I've stopped doing videos but the best card in smash up discussion videos were my favourite to do and something I'd welcome more of in the smash up community.

  • @skrcmama
    @skrcmama 6 місяців тому

    I got sheep’s free… there was a little flyer in the base set when I got it like 10 years ago 😂 had a code to enter on a website and then it arrived in the mail paid nothing 😅

  • @pogger_6638
    @pogger_6638 Рік тому

    You should make more tier list videos

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel Рік тому

      I would but they take a long time and that's something I've not had a lot of in the last 6 months or so. I also play Smash Up a lot less now but I may come back to it.

    • @pogger_6638
      @pogger_6638 Рік тому

      @@ThatSmashUpChannel okay that makes sense but It would still be cool to finish the series

    • @julesmorin2227
      @julesmorin2227 9 місяців тому

      Factssss i love them

  • @nathansutterfield
    @nathansutterfield Рік тому

    Super random question- great video by the way. I literally just jumped into smash up due to finding a copy of Marvel Smash Up with a great deal. After watching your video I am leaning toward the Culture Shock or just the Base Game - I don't need to own everyone maybe just one more expansion or addition, at the most having 3. What do you recommend, with variety, value and fun being my top priorities?

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel Рік тому

      Thanks! I would definitely recommend It's Your Fault of the three I put in 'Essential'. You get five really varied and well-balanced factions.

    • @nathansutterfield
      @nathansutterfield Рік тому

      @ThatSmashUpChannel - okay I will more into that one, so to clarify you would do the its not your fault over World Culture Shock. I was thinking World Culture Shock due to my love historical things and one of your favorite the Mayan faction but thanks for the quick response. All the best.

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel Рік тому

      @@nathansutterfield They're both great, hence them being in essential, they both also offer 5 factions rather than the normal 4 so represent better value for money as well, however, Culture Shock introduces more complicated mechanics that are less intuitive for players to pick up and play without having played a range of factions already (or having a solid grounding in other TCG/CCGs).

    • @nathansutterfield
      @nathansutterfield Рік тому

      @@ThatSmashUpChannel that makes sense. I appreciate your knowledge and help. Take care.

  • @metalflameful
    @metalflameful Рік тому

    Just played this game with the fam in like 3 years and forgot how fun it is. My zombie dinosaur team destroyed.

  • @Derpy101
    @Derpy101 Рік тому

    Will Part 2 ever come out?

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel Рік тому

      Not imminently, we're moving house at the moment. In time though I have plenty more videos I want to do.

    • @NarutoGod185
      @NarutoGod185 18 днів тому

      You should make a retrospective on each faction or expansion! I would watch every video.

  • @griffinman3Depic
    @griffinman3Depic 2 роки тому

    seems interesting, i wonder how often you could actually win with the alternative condition compared to just a normal victory due to high draw and deck shifting for good cards

  • @NatharagonKoranys
    @NatharagonKoranys 2 роки тому

    Pretty interesting faction! I especially like how its actions advance its own game plan while still allowing to be played as a decent support for other factions. I don't think the Rude Awakening interaction is a problem at all, to be honest: the setup required to achieve it is quite specific and difficult (you need all five pieces of Exodia in hand, plus Rude Awakening itself) and because Exodia doesn't gain its talent back before your turn, it means you've just dropped 15 power on a base without breaking it (otherwise you're losing the combo obviously), which would leave it wide open for your opponent(s) to break it themselves and take away your combo. This is made even worse by the fact that the faction has no recursion, meaning getting all five pieces into your discard pile is pretty much a death sentence. Considering all of that, the interaction just seems like a cool alternate way to summon Exodia that really isn't that overpowered.

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 2 роки тому

      Thank you! I originally did the same thing as you, but the interaction is actually that you play Exodia first as your normal minion play, then play the other four pieces with Rude Awakening. As you played Exodia normally it still has it's talent so you just win the game. That does go beyond a strong combo for me, into the problematic realm.

    • @NatharagonKoranys
      @NatharagonKoranys 2 роки тому

      @@ThatSmashUpChannel Ooooh that's right, I hadn't considered that. It is indeed a bit problematic, but then again it's a single combo that can easily be talked out with your playgroup or otherwise avoided.

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 2 роки тому

      @@NatharagonKoranys Yeah, if that's all there is for a win the game card. I can live with that.

  • @myerklamb8529
    @myerklamb8529 2 роки тому

    Any tier list that has zombies as the 6th best faction just doesn't understand the game

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 2 роки тому

      I put several disclaimers at that start of these videos about how I came up with the tier list, as well as what the optimum tier list would be (and how this wouldn't be possible). The point of this tier list is that it isn't based on what I think (as much as possible). It's an attempt at an objective assessment of each faction on its own merit. Zombies are a strong partner faction that major on only one thing, but their individual strength comes from Tenacious Z alone. Their strength comes from recovering your partner faction cards, not Zombie ones. How many times do you recover Zombie cards with Zombie cards for example? I won't go into the arguments about what the strongest mechanic is as I've discussed it a lot in the comments on the tier list videos, but good luck recovering cards without card draw. I'd be happy to take a look at your tier list if you'd care to share it?

  • @myerklamb8529
    @myerklamb8529 2 роки тому

    There's zombies and robots and then there's everybody else. All the other factions have their pros and cons (with some certainyl being better than others) but those two factions can just dominate often regardless of who they're paired with. One of the reasons I honestly can't play the game anymore just because it is just too unbalanced

  • @jacksonhogan110
    @jacksonhogan110 2 роки тому

    Love it man! Your analysis and first impressions have deepened a lot since the marvel unopening, and way to stay patient and avoid spoilers!!

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 2 роки тому

      Thanks! I've generally been too busy to keep up with anything Smash Up recently. Got any suggested Disney pairing I should try first?

    • @jacksonhogan110
      @jacksonhogan110 2 роки тому

      @@ThatSmashUpChannel haha I actually haven’t been able to play much of Disney yet either - I liked the concept of Nightmare a ton so that’s the faction I’ve spent some time with. So far Russian Fairy Tales, Elves, and Tricksters seem like more unique but still strong/fun combos. Apes, Luchadores, and Werewolves are more obvious but strong combos for em!

    • @jacksonhogan110
      @jacksonhogan110 2 роки тому

      Some recommendations for beauty and the beast: Mythic Greeks, Grimms Fairy Tales, and of course mages, ghosts, and werewolves

  • @Sonus2011
    @Sonus2011 2 роки тому

    A note on frozen. You don't have to go through the whole minion chain, it's just there. U can start with Anna and go right to Elsa. Later play Kristoff to get Anna back to get Elsa, or just recur Anna or Elsa directly etc.

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 2 роки тому

      Of course, although I'm sure the chain is what they were intending. The double action and hard drawing to find Sven, Sven for Kristoff and so on.

  • @alchemygal3285
    @alchemygal3285 2 роки тому

    I think that they should eventually stop making new factions cus we are running out of room in the bigger geekier box. I think they can still make money by doing reprints of factions that didn’t age well.

  • @alchemygal3285
    @alchemygal3285 2 роки тому

    This factions gonna get even better with the granny Titan. 😂 Granny/time travelers + The granny Titan will be a broken combo.

  • @alchemygal3285
    @alchemygal3285 2 роки тому

    If you had to choose, what do you think would be the best faction(s) to pair with Incas? And I think their one of the great factions in smash up.

  • @alchemygal3285
    @alchemygal3285 2 роки тому

    Price should have won this. That second question with the extra 8 cards shouldn’t count cus the question didn’t specify. He got the answer right for what it was asking, imo.

  • @alchemygal3285
    @alchemygal3285 2 роки тому

    There are two reasons for why you need a retry. 1. You were given a bad question. 2. There were only 8 dancers, not 9.

  • @alchemygal3285
    @alchemygal3285 2 роки тому

    Hahaha you guys are awesome! 👏 👍 😎

  • @alchemygal3285
    @alchemygal3285 2 роки тому

    By the way, thanx for the dice idea. I never thought of this.

  • @alchemygal3285
    @alchemygal3285 2 роки тому

    Omg, seriously agree. 😢 I wish they provided a good way to keep track of the power on a base card but I don’t like the mats cus they don’t provide flexibility cus the bases have fixed spots on the mat. I like being able to move the bases around as needed. Also, the mats only have spaces for 5 bases but some game plays have more than 5 bases when using certain factions. The mats are just bulky and awful. Im a completionist that has bought everything smash up has to offer but those mats are so useless and bulky that I refuse to buy them. They need to add an expansion or something that provides these things. The reason why so many factions? $$$ although, I’m starting to run out of space in my bigger geekier box. And having another bigger box seems overkill.... it’s kinda already at a point where it’s hard to lug the thing around. If they do add a biggest geekiest box... it better stop there 🛑

  • @alchemygal3285
    @alchemygal3285 2 роки тому

    You got it all spot on lol. Can’t say anything. Although, now that I think about it, I like 4 players best. I’ve done 5 sometimes but avoid anything more than that. 3-4 I think are the sweet points of the game. 2 is not enough, it makes a lot of game mechanics less useful and less fun imo, plus puts too much pressure on me when I just want to relax and have fun and talk with friends. And 5+ players causes too much waiting and causes too many variables until your turn pops up. I feel like I have no real control in a 5+ game and find that winning gets regulated to luck and chance. Anyway, ever tried a 2 vs 2 game? Or a 3 v 3 game? Or a 2v2v2 Game? It makes for an interesting game.

  • @alchemygal3285
    @alchemygal3285 2 роки тому

    I agree with the munchkin. It’s not necessary. It over complicates the game with the extra treasure and monster cards. It’s also not good for beginners... it’s definitely only for ppl who are completionists. If I was to suggest a buying order, I’d suggest it to be the last one anyone buys. However, There are a few factions in it that don’t need the treasure and monster decks to work well. Treasure cards, monster cards, madness cards, Titan cards, and dueling over complicates this game. It’s the reason those particular factions usually fall in not necessary. Although, the two you put in wait for sale are definitely the better of the lot. Simplicity and smoothness of play is definitely more universally friendly. I very much agree with your list. Thanx for sharing. Although, I would change bigger geekier box to minimum requirements because anyone looking to buy minimum requirement expansions and up, plus have space for future smash up expansions, will find the bigger geekier box very useful to store all the factions. Even just buying only the good addition and essential, will find the box is still useful. Again, thank you for sharing, this will probably be very helpful for new players to decide what to buy first.

  • @alchemygal3285
    @alchemygal3285 2 роки тому

    This is a pretty interesting theme and faction. Thanks for sharing.

  • @owenaspinall2046
    @owenaspinall2046 2 роки тому

    You won't see this, but you forgot They keep coming as a base action

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 2 роки тому

      They Keep Coming, the Zombie card? That's just a standard action.

  • @Bundeskaiser
    @Bundeskaiser 2 роки тому

    Very controversial. Both Disney and Marvel are both - at best - not necessary as an expansion. Might be good as standalone games, but not as expansions. My list would look like this (Europe based player): Essential: Core Set (hasn't aged well but the factions are so iconic that they are a must), AL9000 (somewhat outdated and thematically mismatched but still decent mechanics), World Tour I+II (the opposite end, very polished mechanics, good thematically connected set overall) Good addition: OYdia (overall solid factions. Vikings are a bit meh, though), Sci-Fi (carried by the Shapeshifters and the Cyborg Apes), 70s (easy to play and accessible factions) Minimum requirements: It's your fault (very swingy balance levels, not that great overall), Cease and Desist (that's mostly theme over substance), Pretty Pretty (swingy balance levels, Cats are the most swingy faction, Horses BL OP), WWWT (Grannies are a failure, Rockstars are too strong, Explorers are fine, Teddys nothing special), Monster Smash (got 3 Titans - any more questions?) Wait for Sale: Big in Japan, Cthulhu, Munchkin (all of them are very special, but at least they fit into the game; Munchkin is the weakest out of them) Not necessary: Marvel, Disney, BGB, Single Factions (BGB and the Singles mostly for the cost; Marvel and Disney as said) Special Case: Titan Pack. That's basically essential when you have a lot of the sets they add Titans to. It's a must when you have the Cthulhu and Monster Set, probably also when you have the Core set. Otherwise, you don't need it at all. Also, their power levels are really inconsistent. While some are overpowered, others are mostly pointless.

  • @tobiasaakast2362
    @tobiasaakast2362 2 роки тому

    damn, these looks like official releases. not a big fan of the mechanic, but damn the art is on point

  • @lonansmashup5830
    @lonansmashup5830 2 роки тому

    Thanks for sharing! It looks like a fun faction. I have been hesitant to utilize the box in my customs because of the potential to lock an opponent out of the game, but it looks like you have capitalized on putting your own cards in the box with just one card that can box an opponent card. It seems that you avoided the game-lock issue rather well. Kudos! Now the only stone unturned would be rifling through all the factions to see what can be done with a thin deck (time walk?). Nice job, and I'm glad the channel is still alive :)

  • @onassi2
    @onassi2 2 роки тому

    These look great - the box is definitely an underused mechanic in Smash Up! Love the theming and you’ve done a great job with the card design/art choices. I’ve recently gotten into making custom factions as well, and I’m working on a Brewers faction that revolves around the box. The idea is that you “brew a perfect deck” by removing unneeded cards to thin your deck and then you have a few effects that shuffle your discard pile back into your deck. Different take on recursion. Cool to see you using that mechanic as well!

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 2 роки тому

      Thank you! The card design/art choice is all down to Captain Cardboard, can't take any credit for that. I like the sound of that! I'm guessing you send 'ingredients' to the box?

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel Рік тому

      @A Tucker I saw your brewers faction today on Reddit!

    • @onassi2
      @onassi2 Рік тому

      @@ThatSmashUpChannel hey wicked, glad you remembered! It took a long time clearly but I think it turned out pretty cool :)

  • @sonus8621
    @sonus8621 2 роки тому

    to me as it is now it doesnt seem like its important enough that its the box and it could easily be the discard pile or discard pile to deck. Id say just adding more payoff for when you put stuff into the box like Confederate does, and cards that get payoff based on stuff in the box like The Prestige. I could see something like "gain x power for each card you have in the box, up to Y" or "Play an extra minion with power equal to or less than a minion you have in the box" or other similar type stuff. Magician may remove the importance of it being the Box as well. Maybe if it On play let you retrieve a card from the box, then had a different talent.

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 2 роки тому

      I'd probably agree given the low number of cards in the game that utilise the box that it isn't particularly important right now. It is different to the discard/deck though, in that there are a lot of existing cards that interact with those that just couldn't touch the cards in the box, it's safer but also much harder to access. There's definitely scope for more abilities like you've described, and I'm interested to see what official content does with the box. I like the Magician as the only source of retrieval (as it is meant to be difficult), because as a baseline, you can put 9 cards into the box, almost a quarter of your deck, and if any abilities get used again, you're potentially adding even more, I wouldn't want it to be too detrimental. As I said in the video, I also like that you can create the pool of cards that Magician can draw from.

  • @lucasjosephsenknudsen8097
    @lucasjosephsenknudsen8097 2 роки тому

    I normally do not like costum factions that much, since I find them a little underdeveloped from time to time (there are exceptions of course) I especially do not like when new things are added to the game such as new rules/ new decks new mechanics that are not properly explained. This is definitely different! You take an underdeveloped concept of smash up and make it clear! I especially like the power 2 with its wording special/ongoing! This is so creative and good.... It's not even feels overpowered Well done 👍

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 2 роки тому

      Thank you! I feel the same about custom factions. Generally, my favourites are when they develop an area of the game that already exists rather than adding something new. The box definitely has scope and I'm excited to see more official content that utilises it.

  • @Lumina637
    @Lumina637 2 роки тому

    One of the best combo I know is Grannies with Time Travelers. All you need to do is to get these cards as quick as possible: Time Walk, Nana, Family Reunion, and any one minion. Also if you prepare as more actions as possible that can replay card is better. Time Walk first, then play Family Reunion on a base, play any one minion there except Nana and Doctor When(for taking Time Walk back to the top of the deck), and then play a Nana there. Nana will play the top card of your deck which is Time Walk → Time Walk put itself on the bottom of the deck → Family Reunion make Time Walk back to the top of the deck from the bottom. Now, because of Time Walk, you can play an extra minion and an extra action, and it's time to replay it. 2 other Nana(play Time Walk and put it back to the top), Do Over!(to replay Nana), Doctor When(to replay Nana, but Doctor When needs to be played at another base), It’s Astounding(to replay Do Over!), Granny’s Purse(to play Time Walk, but need another minion to make Time walk back to the top) → These only cost a minion/action play to play Time Walk (then get 1 minion and 1 action play). There are totally 8 cards can do that. Into the Time Slip(to replay Nana), Attic Treasures(draw Time Walk to play it). → These cost 2 card play to play Time walk. There are totally 4 cards can do that. Fainally, Knitting Circle can draw card by destroying Don’t Mess With My Babies! or other players' actions , Repeater Perfect and Time Raider can recycle Do Over!...etc. Each time you play Time Walk, you also draw 2 cards, replay it 8~12 times, then you will draw at least 16~24 cards and get 8~12 extra minion and action plays which only use 3~5 minion play and 5~7 action play. In addition to, if you shuffle your deck because of drawing all your deck, you may replay them again and again. In my experience, I draw all of the cards except one action in the discard pile(used to play Time Walk or just Time Walk itself), and can play all my 20 minions to the bases. If you do well, the only thing can stop you is that you have no minion can play to score the bases. It's possible to win 3 bases at one time (with your totally 20 minion 60 power). Even if you don't win yet, Always Room at Granny’s and Chicken Soup can make you do the combo again fast.

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 2 роки тому

      Wow, thanks for the detailed breakdown. It's one that sounds quite unrealistic but only requires some good draws to actually come off.

    • @Lumina637
      @Lumina637 2 роки тому

      @@ThatSmashUpChannel Grannies can easily make you find the card you want, travelers can slow down your opponent or recycle your resources Before you get the key cards, take the second prize is OK, it's easy to win 2 to 3 bases at one time and win the game. And it's not too hard to do, maybe you cannot do a large scale combo each time, but a medium scale combo is easy to finish and it's enough to win bases.

    • @alchemygal3285
      @alchemygal3285 2 роки тому

      This combo will become broken with the new granny Titan. Great Grandma - Special: On your turn, if you have no titan in play, you may say either “action” or “minion”, and reveal either the top or bottom two cards of your deck. If both cards are of that type, play this titan. Return them in the same order. Ongoing: After you reveal or look at one or more cards from your deck, you may give one of your minions +1 power until the end of the turn. Talent: Reveal the bottom card of your deck. If it is a minion of power 3 or less, play it here as an extra minion; otherwise, return it. This takes out the only weakness of no minions to score bases. Cus the great granny will be like steroids for all your minions in play. You will be able to break more than 2-3 bases... you will just win.

    • @Lumina637
      @Lumina637 2 роки тому

      @@alchemygal3285 I really expect that!!

  • @terrysalt
    @terrysalt 2 роки тому

    I was expecting you to pair the Geeks with the Aliens for the cosplay invader combination.

  • @lonansmashup5830
    @lonansmashup5830 2 роки тому

    First of all, yeah, this video has been out for a while and I'm finally commenting. I have enjoyed them so much that I have watched them more than once, so thank you for creating such engaging content. It kind of bothers me that you guys didn't take faction context into account for monarch and professor, but took the faction context into account when it came to invader. Invader in dinos, tricksters, wizards, ninjas, etc is not really that great (it's definitely good!). There are only a few factions that would get "best card in smash up" value with invader in it. However, my argument is not to put invader down because I think faction context should always be weighed. Rather, other cards should have been regarded in a similar way to how invader was gauged.

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 2 роки тому

      I'm glad that you liked them! You'll probably know better than I do as it has been a while since I've 'lived' them, but I thought I made the case for all the finalists that it wasn't about faction context for me? I could make a strong case for Invader without faction context though.

    • @lucasjosephsenknudsen8097
      @lucasjosephsenknudsen8097 2 роки тому

      @@ThatSmashUpChannel I mean... Invader is "only" 2 vp and 6 power if we look at them isolated. Great wurm can be 5 power and -1 or -2 vp in ONE card! I am still however voting body shop! 😀

  • @AX5Terminator
    @AX5Terminator 2 роки тому

    You need another category. Synergy and how they support other factions. Smashing up 2 factions is the name of the game and synergy should factor into each factions ratings. This would bring zombies and wizards up a couple tiers where they belong.

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 2 роки тому

      That would be a completely different tier list and I agree it would be the best way to do it (I think I mention it at the start of the video). I'm all ears to how to do this but in my opinion it's not feasible. How do you assess synergy objectively? Do you do this at a faction level or individual card level or both? Synergy would need to be assessed against every other faction which is more than 3000 combinations. Each combination would need to be played at least three times to get a reasonable sense for synergy. That's a huge number of games that would need to be played for each faction.

    • @AX5Terminator
      @AX5Terminator 2 роки тому

      @@ThatSmashUpChannel I don't think you'd actually have to play them all to know. Synergy can be measured by the mechanics of the faction. How many factions stand to benefit from its core mechanics. It's like a majority of other factions stand to benefit from extra card plays and draw power while very few can utilize madness cards, while power counters land somewhere in the middle. Zombies not being at least A tier shows that this list is flawed.

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 2 роки тому

      @@AX5Terminator I think you can draw those conclusions from this tier list anyway. It explores the mechanics of each faction and attempts to objectively quantify it. I would disagree (obviously) that Zombies landing in C-Tier shows the list is flawed. The faction itself is actually pretty average (the only great card being Tenacious Z), which is what my tier list is assessing. Now you could say that's an issue with how I'm approaching the tier list but as mentioned above, a combination or synergy based list just wouldn't be possible. Zombies are good at playing the best cards from other factions again, they make already good cards better. If you dispute this then think how many times playing Zombies do you ever grab a Zombie card with cards like Grave Digger, or They Keep Coming etc

    • @AX5Terminator
      @AX5Terminator 2 роки тому

      @@ThatSmashUpChannel well this is exactly my point. Zombies make other factions better hence great synergy. I think that's an incredible trait to have in a game like smash up. I would never put zombies as a mid tier faction. I think a lot of people would tend to agree.

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 2 роки тому

      @@AX5Terminator I understand that's your point but as I say, a synergy/combination category or tier list just wouldn't be practical to do. Zombies do max on Recovery so people can see that is a strength and pair accordingly. Recovery is good but I don't think it is the best trait as it does have dependencies. I for, example would always put card draw ahead of replaying cards, both because card draw enables you to always access your best cards and achieve your factions pay off, but also because recovery is slow and relies on games going long to get good value. A lot of people would agree, but then I don't think a lot of people have ever thought about Zombies without a partner, and critically assessed the faction.

  • @skidawg22
    @skidawg22 2 роки тому

    I'm a Smash Up completionist, but here is where I differ from your list. In my opinion, Science Fiction Double Feature is the absolute worst expansion, and contains the absolute worst faction in the entire game (Time Travelers). If I were to pass on any set, it would be that one. Cthulhu is absolutely necessary, and goes even better with the Titans kit. While I personally like World Tour 2 (Culture Shock) and had the pleasure of playtesting it, I would not put it in "Essential." It contains some of the more advanced factions in the entire game. If I were playing with someone who is brand new, I would not have them play with Russian Fairy Tales, as it should only be played by experienced players. As for the four single promo factions, I suggest lobbying AEG to make them available as a set. I got my Penguins, Goblins and Knights of the Round Table for free as a thank you for playtesting (the fact that I'm American plays a bit in availability as well). By the way, Goblins require a coin to play with, and Knights utilize actions as quests. Lastly, for me the Titans are mandatory.

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 2 роки тому

      Thanks for your comment, it's always interesting to hear others views. I agree about Culture Shock, and I would probably suggest It's Your Fault first, but what I'm saying by Essential is that if you were only to own some, it should be those and I think those three expansions would be a really good varied mix. The 5th faction certainly is a boost from a value perspective.

  • @axarca
    @axarca 2 роки тому

    We love Smash Up! Thank you so much for your suggestions. I especially love the changes you have suggested for Robot Guard (change to Locator, Copier, and Sorter). I am going to work up some graphics to go with those changes. If you want to see the final product, let me know. Thanks again for making this great game even better!

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 2 роки тому

      Thank you for the kind words! It would be cool to see reworked versions.

  • @orestkuzma9370
    @orestkuzma9370 2 роки тому

    When new video?

  • @burningcurtains7432
    @burningcurtains7432 2 роки тому

    The turn 1 win idea is super cool! I have a video about an infinite setup but it requires stuff to have been played previously.

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 2 роки тому

      Thanks! I have another turn 1 win theory crafted but haven't got round to doing it.

    • @burningcurtains7432
      @burningcurtains7432 2 роки тому

      I'll definitely check it out whenever you get around to it

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 2 роки тому

      @@burningcurtains7432 Check out the turn 1 no cards in deck, hand, discard or play!

  • @dustinburlet7249
    @dustinburlet7249 2 роки тому

    Great video - I agree with your assessment save one thing The trike could also potentially destroy ANY minion of power 2 on any base (it's a laser - why limit it to one base) See the following: ua-cam.com/video/KEkzGeAyfPY/v-deo.html&lc=UgymT_Rr_QrHepes1iR4AaABAg.9W6f2fz8J9l9W84xA1Cxhe

  • @lonansmashup5830
    @lonansmashup5830 2 роки тому

    This is a really interesting list. I would probably make a distinction with "first purchase" being a 8 faction set. All you can do with a four or even 5 faction expansion by itself is play a 1v1 game. For this reason alone, I would have either marvel or the core game in the essential category. Personally, I think the core needs a little more love. It's a classic and many of its factions are really good. It's also simple for beginners (if marvel were made first I would probably pick it since everything might be modifiers etc.). I'm surprised Big in Japan got demoted so far for its complexity when culture shock got away relatively unscathed. I feel the same about culture shock as you though. It is a little more complicated but has so many good factions (definitely one of the best releases). On another note, thanks for making another video. I was beginning to worry that you had wandered off to another interest or something.

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 2 роки тому

      If someone were jumping in today, and they don't mind Marvel theme, I'd recommend that over the Core Set to start. While the Core Set as a whole is reasonably simple, I think some of the inconsistencies in terms of terminology, ability text, power level etc haven't aged well and can cause confusion. It's really showing its age which is understandable. I didn't mention complexity in relation to Big in Japan. It got put in wait for a sale for titans. No worries thanks, it's just time, I haven't had a lot of it recently.

  • @jacksonhogan110
    @jacksonhogan110 2 роки тому

    I’d definitely put the core set in essential - I agree with Robert that wizards are actually pretty dang good still, and dinosaurs are so fun and thematic they’re still a good one to have, plus they’re great for teaching new players. Tricksters are the only one I really don’t like from the core set - and 1/8 is not bad. I definitely agree that a redesign would be awesome though, although I think they should just buff the bad factions and not nerf the good ones because if they nerf the good ones, people will probably just keep playing the old versions of those.

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 2 роки тому

      Fingers crossed for a 10th anniversary edition of the core set with retuned factions and maybe another all star faction.

    • @julesmorin2227
      @julesmorin2227 9 місяців тому

      I actually love playing the trickster. In a 2 player game it's absolutly GOATED to make the other player skip a turn or to make a faction forbidden on a base 😆

  • @nikosnakopoulos4965
    @nikosnakopoulos4965 2 роки тому

    I know it's subjective but some terrible choices all around :P

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 2 роки тому

      Go on, I'll bite - what are you changing? :p

    • @nikosnakopoulos4965
      @nikosnakopoulos4965 2 роки тому

      @@ThatSmashUpChannel Titans, Cthullu, Big in Japan, Marvel, Awesome 9000, World Tour, Monster, what were we thinking are also essential. Penguins, KoTM are A good addition. Sheep, Goblin, Munchkin are not necessary.

  • @jacksonhogan110
    @jacksonhogan110 2 роки тому

    “Harrison Jones” hahaha that’s actually an even funnier name for the explorers King Minion, they missed a golden opportunity there

  • @Sonus2011
    @Sonus2011 2 роки тому

    why do you think wizards havent held up? From what ive seen, almost every tier list including mine, puts them still atleast high tier all the way up to borderline OP. I know its not the topic of this vid but Just something I had to ask about.

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 2 роки тому

      I think I had them in A on my tier list. I don't think they're that bad. I more meant that if they were printed today they would be updated to make the titan irrelevant. I also think that they no longer have a USP, other factions can spam actions but work towards something as well. I'd probably update them in line with my reworking the wizards video to bring them up to date.

    • @Bundeskaiser
      @Bundeskaiser 2 роки тому

      Vanilla Wizards are borderline op? o.O I think they are redundant. Everything they bring to the table can be done by another faction at least as good, most likely better.

    • @Sonus2011
      @Sonus2011 2 роки тому

      @@Bundeskaiser this is just false, all you have to do is look at the cards. Kree are the closest overlap and even then it's not even close to a full replacement. Show me a single faction that can play as many actions as wizards, play as many extra minions, has as much draw, can deck search and has something like Portal. You won't be able to fyi, as No one does, other factions have aspects but not all in 1 package. Very few other factions could ever even meet the play condition of the titan, and wizards can multiple times in a single game. I should add I don't think vanilla are borderline Op but are top tier.

    • @Bundeskaiser
      @Bundeskaiser 2 роки тому

      I think the Disco Dancers, Greeks, Kree and Musketeers all don't have the exact same package but a similar skillset on a higher power level.

    • @Sonus2011
      @Sonus2011 2 роки тому

      @@Bundeskaiser just depends what u want out of the partner. If I need or want consistency for the partner wizards are basically unmatched for providing that. If I'd rather have less consistency but more Raw power those others are good.

  • @KOzel2008
    @KOzel2008 2 роки тому

    Can you make a tier list for the smash up marvel box? I would want a video of it since the cards in it seems very cool

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 2 роки тому

      The tier list videos take so long to do so it's just a case of time for me (hence no upload recently). I think Marvel is a powerful set though and would generally rank B or above I reckon.

  • @jacksonhogan110
    @jacksonhogan110 3 роки тому

    I’ve been playing Ancient Incas a lot recently and they’ve quickly become one of my favorites too. It took me a sec to realize that you can actually use Child of the Sun’s ability multiple times a turn, and when you combine that with golden condor this faction’s 2+ base-breaking potential is incredible.

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 2 роки тому

      They're probably one of the best all round factions in the game in my opinion.

  • @malcolm-chrisbikoumou972
    @malcolm-chrisbikoumou972 3 роки тому

    Nice video. Could you do the other expansions?

  • @lucasjosephsenknudsen8097
    @lucasjosephsenknudsen8097 3 роки тому

    Hello! I really like this channel! I think that the Best cards I smash up series was a blast especially the WORST card special episode! I took a look back through that series and noticed that there were very few power 2 minions represented, and I think that makes sense when you look for the SINGLE best card! However if looking for the best card and considers the copy number, the power 2s are actually contributing more in terms of power! I would really like to see a best card in smash up episode with only power 2 minions (or maybe more precisely from the power 2 tier to include cub scout, moai, huffie)

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 3 роки тому

      Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed them - we enjoyed making them. The issue with doing the power 2s is what would beat First Mate and/or Tenacious Z? Those two are stand out cards and made it into our best card in series.

    • @lucasjosephsenknudsen8097
      @lucasjosephsenknudsen8097 3 роки тому

      @@ThatSmashUpChannel So I was thinkig this excact thing! At first I thought first mate was by far the Best, but actually there are a couple og power 2s that can do just as well. Groupies, Hornets, war raptor, the elder thing power 2, copycat, deputy, yellow demon, baby penquin, fan. First mate is good, but only when paired with power boosting factions. Some of these might have a change, even though first mate is a slight favorite

    • @ThatSmashUpChannel
      @ThatSmashUpChannel 3 роки тому

      @@lucasjosephsenknudsen8097 I've just realised that of course Tenacious Z wouldn't qualify so it would just really be First Mate that is the standout. First mate is good standalone, even without the power boosts as it's a 2 power that keeps providing value, even by itself. One Groupie, war raptor, hornet etc don't provide anything like the value of first mate nor do they have anyway near as high a ceiling.

    • @lucasjosephsenknudsen8097
      @lucasjosephsenknudsen8097 2 роки тому

      @@ThatSmashUpChannel What about tier 3? Tenacious z Shinobi, Bear cavalery, Mimic, Baboom, seastar, Muffin, Spartan, Imperial dragon, Diva, Crypt looter, Black trooper, Pyramid engineer, Shield Maiden, Rumpelstilskin. Game guru