Bad Luck While Thinking
Bad Luck While Thinking
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Explaining FFVII Rebirth’s Ending - Breaking Down What It Shows Us, Moment by Moment- Episode 1
The start of a new series breaking down observations of Final Fantasy VII Rebirth to piece together what we are actually being told by the game.
To kick this off we are aiming to make sense of what actually happened with Aerith, Cloud, and Sephiroth within the Planet’s Sanctuary.
The way this is presented in-game deeply disorienting, but through the power of separating the elements and slowing things down we can observe and examine what the details are telling us.
Analysis, Script and Editing: Bad Luck While Thinking
Voice over: Guffo Smith topspicy.social/@guffo
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00:00:00 Intro
00:01:04 Approach
00:02:25 The Key Moment
00:03:55 Separating Truth from Fiction
00:06:33 Masking Reality
00:07:37 Making Sense of Cloud Speaking (Or Not)
00:09:01 Aerith Reaches Out
00:10:21 The Party Arrives
00:13:29 The Missing Funeral
00:15:55 The Interesting Questions
00:16:11 What is the Bubble of Golden Rainbow Light?
00:18:25 What Creates this Vision of Cloud's Desired Reality?
00:20:17 Is that Actually Aerith that Cloud Sees by the Water?
00:21:12 What are the White Whispers?
00:22:35 Summary
00:24:06 Outro
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Thanks to Vyzzuvazzadth, Rimavelle, and Kuraudo from the CCO Discord for feedback, and Dachdagger for additional footage: discord.gg/pCgDmK2Tjd
References:
Cosmo canyon NPC ua-cam.com/video/Y2PNbO-YO3w/v-deo.htmlsi=r2hMK8p1Vqa9ndGR
@PierceArner
The powers of the White Materia: www.reddit.com/r/FFVIIRemake/comments/1d0wdw9/whats_actually_going_on_in_ff7r_the_white_materia/?rdt=42487
www.reddit.com/u/Kaslight
Breaking down the ending, the placement of Sephiroth’s sword in particular:
ua-cam.com/video/Kn-1n4XkiOE/v-deo.html
@PhilipHarts
Cosmo Canyon Observatory channel
@Vyzzuvazzadth
CCO Discord: discord.gg/pCgDmK2Tjd
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  • @Halfwarlock69
    @Halfwarlock69 20 годин тому

    That was amazing work I cannot wait for the next video!

  • @coreystrife
    @coreystrife 22 години тому

    I need that sephiroth reborn video

  • @twofeetunder7212
    @twofeetunder7212 День тому

    The main thing regarding the Aerith bubble that her and cloud seem to be in is that it is the same color that represents a divergence in worlds. It's seen many times throughout the game such as when Zack chooses whether to save biggs or go to hojos lab. His decision sparked a split in worlds. I believe that this is what happens when cloud "saves" aerith. Instead of her dying, the worlds split once again where aeirth dies in one and lives in the other. Cloud then gets moved to the world where he saved her whereas the rest of the party is in the world where she dies which is why they are all seen sad. Aerith, being heavily connected to the lifestream, knows about the world split which is why she doesnt bother trying to talk to anyone other than cloud. Red XIII also having heavy connections to the lifestream is also able to sense Aerith in the last scene even though she's "dead" in his world. But all of this doesnt explain what happened with her body since the game cuts that part out. Its possible the game doesnt show it because two totally different events occur. In the world she dies, she obviously gets the water burial. But in the world she lives, which seems to only manifest for cloud, she stays at the capitol to continue praying (idk why, but that's the only thing i can think of). Overall, it'd be cool if aerith is somehow able to live after all this, but we'll just have to wait 3-4 years to find out 🙃

  • @Jordan10704
    @Jordan10704 2 дні тому

    More videos! More videos!

    • @BadLuckWhileThinking
      @BadLuckWhileThinking 15 годин тому

      It’s coming. Life and the day job have knocked me way off course, but I’m making slow progress nonetheless.

  • @SRGC_Archive
    @SRGC_Archive 4 дні тому

    video opens with city of the ancients theme, I'll be staying a while

  • @petergbrooks
    @petergbrooks 5 днів тому

    Aerith at the very end is clearly Jenova

  • @ZRossi513
    @ZRossi513 9 днів тому

    Gonna make a bold guess about the Whispers and their identity. White Whispers: The spirit of the Cetra which coincides with the white materia that Ilfana and Aerith carried. Black Whispers: A mix of Jenova tainted Cetra and some of the Gi….The Gi want the black materia as does Sephiroth to propel his plan(s) further….

  • @dl2one
    @dl2one 20 днів тому

    Damn that was S Tier. Can't wait for more

  • @yiyunzhuo5991
    @yiyunzhuo5991 Місяць тому

    Thanks for this succinct and clear breakdown🎉

  • @hush8469
    @hush8469 Місяць тому

    Felt like Aerith did more damage than good by subverting Cloud’s expectations if she is responsible for the alter scene. If it’s all Cloud than the he is way more mentally f**ked than he was in the OG

  • @SJT9791
    @SJT9791 Місяць тому

    Thanks “No One Can Know About This”.

  • @MiseFreisin
    @MiseFreisin Місяць тому

    Nockat sent me

    • @MiseFreisin
      @MiseFreisin Місяць тому

      Good analysis and pretty much lines up with my initial impressions of the ending, although you obviously looked at things in much more detail. Feel SE really shot themselves in the foot with the extended boss rush instead of the original quiet Jenova fight under Aerith's theme. Splitting the game into three parts didn't mean we had to have a big climactic Sephiroth battle at the end of every single one.

  • @karenjohnson1306
    @karenjohnson1306 Місяць тому

    My biggest question is whether Cloud really knows and understands that Aerith is dead. He seems very flippant and callous about moving along when the party is mourning, just after (perhaps) seeing Aerith beside him.

    • @BadLuckWhileThinking
      @BadLuckWhileThinking Місяць тому

      He 100% thinks that she is alive. Our boy is fully decoupled from reality by the end of the game

    • @benn93z28
      @benn93z28 20 днів тому

      @@BadLuckWhileThinking This is a big change from the OG story, but it makes sense. One could question why was Cloud able to accept Aerith's death so readily but not Zack's. I thank you for this video because you've pretty much solved one of biggest mysteries of the Remake trilogy. The Lifestream is full of memories (as restated in Ever Crisis), but the memories aren't just of events that happened, but also memories of things *wished* for. As stated by the NPC, the Lifestream doesn't really differentiate the two. I find this a genius move and is basically an expansion of the Lifestream sequence near the end of FF7. Tifa had to help Cloud by separating the memories stemming from Cloud's innermost desire to be strong enough to save Tifa after her accident (his wish to be a first-class soldier returning home at Sephiroth's side) and his memories of what really happened. This also explains the "tear" we see in the sky in Zack's world which also present in the depiction of Cloud's mind while in the Lifestream in FF7. All this points to the Lifestream sequence in Part 3 to be way heavier and more impactful than the original.

  • @brandonp6880
    @brandonp6880 2 місяці тому

    Anyone know the name of the remix of listen to the cries of the planet? The one that plays at 4:49?

    • @BadLuckWhileThinking
      @BadLuckWhileThinking 2 місяці тому

      All of the music is from either from the last chapter of the game or from when Tifa goes into the lifestream in Chapter 9. I just turned the dialog and effects off while capturing the footage.

  • @Lyces
    @Lyces 2 місяці тому

    This video and channel deserves more views. Great dissection.

  • @Kr12B
    @Kr12B 2 місяці тому

    Hands down, this is the most insightful and comprehensive explanation of the Rebirth ending I've come across-an absolutely masterful video. The idea that Cloud creates his own 'desired reality' where Aerith survives is spot on. It perfectly ties in with the Aerith and Cloud date scene, which I now see as Aerith’s version of her own 'desired reality'-a world where everyone accepts their fate. This also explains why only Cloud sees the rapture in the sky. That rapture exists only in his desired reality and it is short-lived. Most likely will crumble when he finally realizes (or accepts?) Aerith's death. This potentially sets up the newest plot twist unique to the Remake trilogy: Zack may possibly exist only as part of Aerith's 'desired reality,' where Zack survives. We should ask why bring Zack to life to begin with? Because Zack would be the one who saves Cloud from his mental breakdown during the Lifestream sequence in Part 3.

    • @MiseFreisin
      @MiseFreisin Місяць тому

      Oh no, if Zack steals Tifa's big moment, I'm gonna be so mad at SE

    • @Kr12B
      @Kr12B Місяць тому

      @@MiseFreisin Well, the whole point of Tifa's life stream sequence at Rebirth is for Sephiroth to "stab" Tifa inside Weapon, so her voice "couldn't reach Cloud anymore", right? So, yeah.

  • @bronxx117
    @bronxx117 2 місяці тому

    Excellent breakdown and use of detail to show, not just tell. I played through the game 3 times and have watched a dozen or so other people play through some/all of the game, and really it took me going back through recording a chapter-by-chapter examination of the story beats (pulling in lore rom the other FF7 games, books, movies, etc) to reach my conclusions about the end of the game and beyond. The more I watch other people's theories, the more I tend to think they're off-base and that mine are closer to reality (though there's no way I'm right about everything), but you're the only other person I've seen use the "bubble" term for this section, and I think we ended up reasonably close. I don't think Cloud's just looking at a reality filter, though, but rather Aerith (post-OG7 Aerith in the Lifestream) using the moment to create a world that's so unstable it can't survive the moment - because Aerith MUST die. I think one of the biggest divergences in my conclusions from what I've seen anyone else talk about is that I think the world we've been in since the end of Remake is already a "doomed" world with a cracked sky that only Aerith could see the whole game through. I think any new "world" that diverges from the OG7 story is inherently doomed, and the bigger the divergence the less stable the world and thus the faster it fails. Aerith living is the biggest divergence of them all, and that possibility can't even fully manifest, but it's enough for Aerith to give Cloud the impression that he saved her, saving his psyche for the moment. Sephiroth was counting on the moment to break Cloud, knowing that any effort by Aerith to prevent her fate was doomed - but she never tried to save herself (S: "I underestimated you."), she's always been focused on Cloud, and so she was able to defeat Sephiroth and stave things off for the time being. Impossible to fully summarize everything here, but that's the highlight. I look forward to more videos, theories, and conversation on this game.

  • @joshwhite83
    @joshwhite83 2 місяці тому

    Incredible analysis. Thank you for all the work you put into this.

  • @Sarafara7
    @Sarafara7 2 місяці тому

    Make more videos please! This was an awesome explanation!

  • @oof0017
    @oof0017 2 місяці тому

    20:17 What I have never seen people talk about is how at the lake funeral scene, just before "Aerith" appears, is how we see flashes of the white materia. It's an interesting choice, as they just could have went with using scenes that show Aerith's death instead of the white materia plunging into the lake, if they really wanted to indicate that Cloud is just suppressing Aerith's passing. I don't think that post-death Aerith is Jenova, she is too much like her and nothing in her behavior seems to indicate that. Why would Jenova be sad about other characters mourning her death, or have a solemn look on her face when she looks at the plane leaving? I feel like that this is Aerith from the OG, one who might have different goals than all the other versions, and the one who might be responsible for Remake Aerith's knowledge of the future, as she might use the white materia as some form of communication with her other self/selves? And now Cloud is able to see her, as he is in possession of the clear (formerly white) materia. (Also, there seem to be two different Sephiroths as well?)

  • @igiveyoudispear9975
    @igiveyoudispear9975 2 місяці тому

    Is it just me or do these people not look real? They look like cgi or something. I’m starting to think that this isn’t real at all.

  • @Mark_CTN
    @Mark_CTN 2 місяці тому

    This is one of the best videos ive watched on the ending, it really cemented my own theory with the addition of the "bubble" outside of reality. I dont believe they are going with a multiverse angle either i just think they're eluding to it to create talking points and keep the series trending, they left it looking so uncertain on purpose for sure

  • @redsarg99
    @redsarg99 2 місяці тому

    so many great background tracks here, does anyone know the tracks and where they are from?

    • @BadLuckWhileThinking
      @BadLuckWhileThinking 2 місяці тому

      Most are from the last chapter of the game with the dialog turned off, and the rest are from the segment where Tifa is in the Lifestream

  • @redsarg99
    @redsarg99 2 місяці тому

    did you address the comment by cloud to not look at the sky, is this him imagining this (he had seen it in the dream sequence with Aerith) or is he seeing something others can't?

    • @BadLuckWhileThinking
      @BadLuckWhileThinking 2 місяці тому

      That’s for another video. I just wanted to focus on the specific events within the Planet’s Sanctuary as much as possible for this one.

  • @Locustskies
    @Locustskies 2 місяці тому

    It is rumored that civilization fades after the events of OG 500 years later. Sephiroth’s motive is to be immortal and to rule over every world and every living thing when a player assesses Sephiroth. He cannot do this if this holds true. “Seven seconds…” Because of the whispers and what has been warned to Cloud over the course of both games by other characters to save Aerith, I do not believe that Aerith is completely gone and it’s game over for her. This video does not explain the holy materia that refills or the comatose bodies/empty vessels of Cloud and Aerith in a separate world. Aerith relies on Cloud’s strength regarding the white materia. I preach this all of the time but why add arbiters of fate that change destiny if we get the same outcome? That would be pointless. This is not OG. Everyone expects Aerith to die. For a story to be epic, there has to be an unexpected change. CC- Zack’s dream was to be a hero. His dream was fulfilled by rescuing Cloud. In turn, Cloud will rescue Aerith since Zack literally tells him to in the end. I would hope that a happier ending is to give players a choice of the outcome. But, FF7 is about life, love, and death. I believe that the only way to stop Sephiroth is Cloud, not Aerith, since Cloud is the only one who possesses S-genes of Sephiroth/Jenova from Hojo’s experiments. Zack has G-genes, therefore uncontrolled by Sephiroth. IMO, Cloud will die in the finale to finally end Sephiroth. Based on the LOVELESS poem and performance, my theory aligns: Act V Even if the morrow is barren of promises Nothing shall forestall my return To become the dew that quenches the land To spare the sands, the seas, the skies I offer thee this silent sacrifice Cloud’s is miserable after OG and he is constantly searching for Aerith (AC, Mobius, WoFF, Dissidia, Nojima’s OtWtaS). To sacrifice your life to save someone you love would be the ultimate sacrifice. It would still be a tragic love story: “A LOVE that can never be.” -the narrator says in the original 1997 FF7 trailer.

    • @twofeetunder7212
      @twofeetunder7212 День тому

      I've never thought of this reverse ending where Aerith lives and cloud is the one that actually dies. Very interesting and one that would make me depressed for a month lol

  • @Cloudnerd
    @Cloudnerd 2 місяці тому

    Excellent analysis of this final scene and choice of music. Where is it from? If it's from rebirth I don't think i remember, ha!

    • @BadLuckWhileThinking
      @BadLuckWhileThinking 2 місяці тому

      Most of it is from the last chapter of the game with the dialog turned off, and the rest is from the segment where Tifa is in the Lifestream

  • @dikia426
    @dikia426 2 місяці тому

    I really like the analysis made here. I'd like to add that - I consider the white whispers get depicted doing many things but most of the time they act in order to help or protect the party (Tifa in Gongaga, Cloud when fighting Sephiroth, healing the party after fighting Jenova Lifeclinger, guiding Zack to Cloud). This lines up with Aerith's prayer, like you mentioned. - Cloud being the only one to be able to cross the whisper wall and reach the altar first, isolated from the rest of the party, feels intentional. The only thing that happens with the whisper wall active is the parry of the sword and the bubble. Aerith gets killed when the whisper wall falls down, so what was the point of isolating Cloud in those events anyways? To me there was something Sephiroth needed from Cloud in that moment.

    • @SoSakashii
      @SoSakashii Місяць тому

      Sephiroth said that the fake Black Materia is the key to the real one “between worlds”. To retrieve that, he needs his S-cell agent to be put there in that liminal space to get the real BM. He also said that new worlds can be created by breaching fate. I think he actually anticipated Aerith praying (he said Good Aerith, pray). The only S-cells clone capable of breaching fate in terms of emotional state and strength is Cloud. Hence, the dark whispers let only him in towards the altar. He wants to take advantage of Aerith’s destined death to force Cloud to breach fate and create a world where he saved her. Cloud is now in the liminal space between 2 worlds, in the place where Sephiroth wants him to be to get real BM. This links back to Cloud ended up having (likely) the fake one at the ending cutscene.

  • @AwakenedCloud
    @AwakenedCloud 2 місяці тому

    Very good analysis. My current read is that the Aerith at the ending scene of the sanctuary is different than the one who shows up next to the Tiny Bronco. Their actions and the musical motifs feel way too different for them to be one and the same to me.

  • @yayab6378
    @yayab6378 2 місяці тому

    really good video

  • @Ishmoz
    @Ishmoz 2 місяці тому

    This theory of yours is absolutely spot on with mine and I think you're the first one whose theory I've seen to have practically 1:1 theory with mine. I've read almost everything the devs had to say about this game and especially the ending and I think this lines up perfectly with their vision for the narrative, especially going into part 3. Plus, what is most important, that it still stays true to OG and doesn't bring any multiverse crap. I've got sick of this "M word" seeing it in every major theory/discussion from the playerbase, whereas it's pretty clear it's not a multiverse. Looking forward to your next video! Btw, I've got a point to bring up about ending CGI cinematic. I've noticed a difference in Aerith's behavior and I can't seem to make any definitive sense for it. I think there might be even more versions of Aerith, including spirit one and hallucination one created by Cloud's mind defence mechanism to protect itself from the trauma of the truth. I've tried to ask people about it in this post: www.reddit.com/r/FFVIIRemake/s/yswdAknNR6 Tl;Dr: Aerith who's sensed by Red doesn't react to the environment, whereas the one that talks to Cloud does. Check Aerith's dress/hair movement during the CGI scene. I'd really like to hear your input on this.

  • @antonioalvaro9913
    @antonioalvaro9913 2 місяці тому

    More!!!!

  • @8BitRoku
    @8BitRoku 2 місяці тому

    Fantastic video, looking forward to the next one.

  • @runexwalsh
    @runexwalsh 2 місяці тому

    Excellent video. Yorcia has a perfect shorts video of the Cosmo Canyon npc Lifestream conversation on her page as well.

  • @toddfraser7009
    @toddfraser7009 2 місяці тому

    subbed.

  • @apexultrawide1435
    @apexultrawide1435 2 місяці тому

    Basically we saw things from Cloud's perspective, and only Cloud's perspective during the part where the temple collapsed and the Black Materia obviously falling into the crater, and then Cloud's perspective again just before Sephiroth stabbed Aerith. It's almost certain that those scenes that were from Cloud's own delusions, will be fleshed out as in the OG once he regain his true memories. My guess is a second visit to the Forgotten Capitol we see what actually happened to Aerith plays out, the part where Buganhagen was there at the Capitol.

  • @Jam4Lube
    @Jam4Lube 2 місяці тому

    Amazing breakdown, hope to see more!

  • @lajazziamacklin8418
    @lajazziamacklin8418 2 місяці тому

    I already knew THAT was coming, because when I looked at the 'Aerith Death Scene' and played it back in slow-motion and that BLADE actually PIERCED THROUGH AERITH IN THE BACK {even if we couldn't see it} and when Sephiroth took it out of her and the blade had blood coated on it, yeah, I knew that Aerith was already dead. I mean a blade cutting through you like that will kill you instantly. Sephiroth actually succeeded to kill Aerith {Remake Aerith}! 😲 {I actually yelled the other night, 'HE KILLED HER!'}. Dang, you'd think ALL of the times he actually FAILED in trying to do that. He made his MARK this time around {evidenced by the blood on the blade}. I'm more scared about Cloud in Part 3! I think our boy Cloud needs a REALLY big and I mean BIG hug! All that is left is that other Aerith in the other timeline. Cloud is NOT going to be okay come the finale. I think he was losing it back in Remake. He''s BLOCKING OUT what had actually taken place, thinking that he did save Aerith. He really didn't. I STRONGLY believe that Remake Sephiroth, the one who we met in Edge of Creation in Remake AND at the end of Rebirth, however, WANTS AERITH ALIVE! BUT...that other NEW Sephiroth {Edge of Creation Sephiroth}, I think him coming back is HIM COMMUNICATING from the Northern Cave! I mean how did he return to Rebirth at the end to mess with Rufus? And if he dies in Part 3, {1000% REAL and I am NOT ready for that part!}, I'm going to CRY MY EYES OUT. Part 3 in 2027 IS going to BREAK ME. The EOC fight is EERILY similar to how Sephiroth would train pre-Crisis Core with Angeal, Genesis, & Zack. He doesn’t really attack Cloud, instead just doing some parrying. I actually prefer Remake/Edge of Creation Sephiroth more than the Rebirth one. The Rebirth one during that speech at the Temple put me to sleep! 🥱😴Not gonna lie. .

  • @Mubarak2507
    @Mubarak2507 2 місяці тому

    This is was a fantastic video. Great work in explaining things based on analyzing the scene itself.

  • @BEnXAm.13
    @BEnXAm.13 2 місяці тому

    Dude i knew it since remake it's all inside of Clouds head , this boy somehow has the ability to unwillingly be connected to the life stream and use white materia , also he has the ability to absorb others and create certain memories ans feelings of them inside his head , like he did to Sephiroth and Zack . all this multiverses theories " Zack's timelines" don't really exist , litterally in a scene zack came out of cloud body as a black whisper for a milli second first then as zack and they fought together . it is all inside of clouds mind where zack lives as a memory and what Seph did in remake the portal is all to make his remember zack and cloud's real past , it is not a coinsidence that cloud remembers zack in part 2 of the game not in part 3 like og its because of the what hapening to zack in clouds head everytime fate comes to zack so he dies as clouds remembers he triesto defy iit so a new " miltiverse" is created till he actually remembers him . Sephirothis also indside of cloud as a memory but he has genova abiltites thats how he can all this stuff , and now he even absorbed Aerith so the good angel and the bad angel conflict inside of clouds head begins

  • @empty_melodies
    @empty_melodies 2 місяці тому

    Fantastic video. I’ve seen so many videos on this ending, but you brought up some details others hadn’t before like absolute dark detail of Sephiroth’s sword struggling with some resistance as he pulls it out of Aerith.

  • @briansilva4165
    @briansilva4165 2 місяці тому

    There is a multiverse. Already confirmed. Aerith was saved in one by cloud and died in the other. How can it be cloud suppressing his memory of aeriths death if he was also seeing those same visions in remake way before her death. Also why does tifa see the 2 aeriths. I think the party went into an alternate reality when Aerith created the portal at the end of remake because the party never came back from it. So now they have the power to change the original story and that is what is happening. Since it is conflicting with happened in the original story the two timelines as well as others sometimes glitch and converge also because sephiroth is trying to make one timeline. Eventually there will be one universe and it will depend on who’s will is stronger between cloud and party or sephiroth to determine if the story will end differently

    • @Mehrk
      @Mehrk 2 місяці тому

      already confirmed? by who? if it was a multiverse, there would be multiple lifestreams. if there were separate timelines, they'd have the same starting point with different stories (we dont have a detective Cloud, bartender Cloud, a Cloud that actually made First) it all branches off of after we see sephiroth appearing where he shouldnt in FF7 Remake. its one planet, encompassing a multitude of worlds (quoting from Sephiroth's info dump from the game) lets call it gaia - aka the prime timeline, anything that deviates from OG FF7 creates these pocket worlds that are all doomed to fade i.e aeriths dream world, biggs world, zacks world. ONE LIFESTREAM, ONE PLANET. sephiroth literally tells us this. PROOF: Zack bringing Cloud to Midgar should been a completely different story, but the Biggs in that world talks about having memories of Cloud from the Beagle world. the lifestream is just making worlds and mingling everyones memories and manifesting them in different spots

    • @briansilva4165
      @briansilva4165 2 місяці тому

      The developers confirmed the multiverse already. They wrote the story they can change it and that’s why they are doing. Even Zack says at the end who’s to say the worlds can’t reunite which is foreshadowing what will happen. Killing off Aerith and making her death scene confusing makes no sense if she really is dead. It kills the emotion of the scene. Why do that.. unless they actually want to keep her alive this time. Also biggest clue is no great gospel limit break?? Hello… lol… that right there says it all she will definitely be back and alive fighting in part 3 at some point. The devs are trying to make everyone happy and are doing a great job so far. My prediction is they will have 2 endings that the player will choose depending on decisions. One will end similar to OG FF7 and lead up to advent children which will be the sad ending and one will reunite the entire party and all will live which will be the happy ending. Devs already said they will do a happy ending this time there is no way of ending this game on a happy ending with Aerith and Zack dead and knowing geostigma is coming in 2 yrs along with Sephiroth still being alive. There is no closure. They will make it so this sephiroth is post advent children and cloud will end him for good or Sephiroth will make a surprise redemption although that is a stretch.

    • @MantaRayOfDoom
      @MantaRayOfDoom 2 місяці тому

      @@briansilva4165 Lies the devs did not confirm squat, and they even went as far as to say the characters that died will not return alive or something to that extend.

  • @CrowsofAcheron
    @CrowsofAcheron 2 місяці тому

    This is almost exactly the theory I had of this scene. The rainbow circle is Cloud's perception. The lack of rainbow is reality. To me it was seeing the white materia flying over the edge. Why would they show the same thing with rainbow, then no rainbow? Why would Aerith fall foward if Cloud had deflected the blade? There is one reality, one Aerith in this scene.

  • @Aaa-t5x
    @Aaa-t5x 2 місяці тому

    Saw this pop up in my feed when you uploaded - thought "not watching yet another dribbler talking absolute bs...". Popped up again and watched just now. Jokes on me. Strong video. Thank you! The friction/resistance ("judder") you caught is an absolute spot! Would have been good to have included the absence of videos in the credits where the water funeral took place 🤓 For your next video - and I'm sure you undoubtedly will - please address that Seph BAITS Cloud into striking him, in front of a portal whereby Seph gives his blessing... where does Cloud actually return to? Thanks again! 😁

  • @UltimateSoulX
    @UltimateSoulX 2 місяці тому

    Very good video and analysis :D excited for the next video! Good to see a theory and not an speculation.

  • @punkpop101
    @punkpop101 2 місяці тому

    This is a nice theory but I still believe it's an alternate world. If it isn't this whole project is extremely misleading and provided false hope to Aerith and Zack fans. I will be extremely disappointed and angry if after all the Whispers stuff and defying fate teases all we get is the original game's outcome. I truly hope you're wrong on this one. It's also painfully obvious most people want Aerith to die. I don't and will hate this project if she does.

    • @Mehrk
      @Mehrk 2 місяці тому

      FF7 Remake had the meta of the whispers being the fans who dont want things to be changed from OG, FF7 Rebirth's meta is making Cloud portray the feelings of fans who dont want Aerith to die/ still think she's alive which stems from his denial and refusal to accept the truth of reality. quite poetic how they put you in Cloud's shoes more than ever. the whole point of the Remake series was to deliver this story to a newer audience and realize all the things they couldnt back in the day due to their limited technology in the 1990's. plus its good money/pandery. If they made the game 1:1, it wouldve been boring. Aerith has to die, otherwise it would sully all the themes OG had.

    • @punkpop101
      @punkpop101 2 місяці тому

      @@Mehrk Thanks for the reply. I wholeheartedly disagree and will hate part 3 if she isn't alive in an alternate world. I won't accept her duying this time. And believe me I am not purist neither wamted her to live before the project. I just think after all this BS with the ahispers she should survive. Anything else amd they have destroyed the passing of the OG game for absolutely no reason.

    • @apexultrawide1435
      @apexultrawide1435 2 місяці тому

      ​@@punkpop101 That's your problem not ours, I for one don't want to see some weird multiverse type scenario playing out and jokes on those who actually try to ship those insane theories when the answer lies it what had been written all along in many FF7 compilations, it is in deed the lifestream effect and forgetting about the past playing out in Cloud's memories about Zack as well. 🤣

    • @punkpop101
      @punkpop101 2 місяці тому

      @@apexultrawide1435 Yeah it's my problem. Square Enix can ignore people who have a problem with their games but not for long. The sales are not lying. Either create a faithful remake or give us what we were promised. False hope BS for sure wasn't what we were promised. If all of those changes amount to the OG ending and Zack and Aerith being in some kind of BS purgatory then I'm done with Square Enix simple as that. They could just release the same game we all came to like back then if they wanted to use false hope from Zack and Aerith fans to drive interest back in their dying franchise.

  • @ahmedismail3563
    @ahmedismail3563 2 місяці тому

    What a great video can’t wait to hear ur thoughts on the next breakdowns

  • @jayemerengueli
    @jayemerengueli 2 місяці тому

    Imagine my disappointment when I discovered that this was your first video. I enjoyed this video so much that I wanted more. Now I'm feeling like a crackhead going through withdrawals as I wait for Part 2: Not A Multiverse. 😂

  • @Foxheimer
    @Foxheimer 2 місяці тому

    I don't understand why you didn't mention that Cloud had to cross a portal ? From that moment he is not at the same "level" of the rest of the party. If the devs simply wanted to isolate Cloud from the rest of the team they could have made them fight the Whispers, and Cloud would have found an opening while the others were still battling them. In that case they made him the only one crossing it (Did Aerith cross one too ? ) I guess there is a reason. Otherwise what would be the point to create that direct reference with the last chapter in Remake ? Is that a white feather on the right side at 2:42 ? Unlike the others that one appears white and stays white. When Cloud let Aerith on the ground, she has the burial pose we can see her hands on her belly like in the OG but when he comes back she has her arms along her body (like Aerith in her bed in the other world) In the last final cutscene Aerith is, at first, not impacted by the Tiny Bronco but when Cloud talks to her suddenly she is.