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Disaster Preparedness Townhall 1
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Disaster Preparedness Townhall 1
The Vote is ON! Design Contest Finalist Panel
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Every year, PINA hosts a Permaculture Design Contest with a $5,000 grand prize. PINA members chose the Grand Prize Winner. You can sign up as a new member for $20/year at pina.in/membership Already a member? Log in, then enter the Member Portal to review the designs and pick your favorite one!
We Funded
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We Funded
You Won't Believe the Power of Permaculture in Humanitarian Aid Crisis Zones
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You Won't Believe the Power of Permaculture in Humanitarian Aid Crisis Zones
Humanitarian Aid: Permaculture's Biggest Opportunity: Part 2
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Humanitarian Aid: Permaculture's Biggest Opportunity: Part 2
Humanitarian Aid: Permaculture's Biggest Opportunity: Part 1
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Humanitarian Aid: Permaculture's Biggest Opportunity: Part 1
Biochar EXPERT with 15 Years Experience Shares Top Tips for Success!
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Biochar EXPERT with 15 Years Experience Shares Top Tips for Success!
Becoming Effective Change Agents
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Becoming Effective Change Agents
Discover the POWER of Permaculture!
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In 2024, the Board of The Permaculture Institute of North America (PINA) and The Association for Regenerative Culture (ARC) met in Michigan to plan our work in 2025 and beyond. These are some of the results.
Profit the Land and Landowner
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Profit the Land and Landowner
Making Money with Local Trees
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Learn how a nursery program can supply local trees and make you money.
The Dungeon Master's Guide to Permaculture
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Taking years of Dungeon Master experience and turning it into books for Permaculture. This is the process Eric Toensmeier has taken to be one of Permaculture's top authors.
A Living Design Process
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A Living Design Process
Succeed with Small Scale Biogas
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Succeed with Small Scale Biogas
Permaganic Authenticated: A Permaculture Farm Certification Program
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Permaganic Authenticated: A Permaculture Farm Certification Program
Digital Permaculture Design
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Digital Permaculture Design
Creating a Polewood Economy
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Creating a Polewood Economy
The Role of Land Trusts In Permaculture
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The Role of Land Trusts In Permaculture
Perennial Polycultures That Work
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Perennial Polycultures That Work
Growing Up with David Holmgren & Su Dennet, Permaculture Pioneers
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Growing Up with David Holmgren & Su Dennet, Permaculture Pioneers
Is This the Future of Permaculture Design?
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Is This the Future of Permaculture Design?
An Ancient Farmers Alamanac!!
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An Ancient Farmers Alamanac!!
New Water Gnosis Highlight Reel
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New Water Gnosis Highlight Reel
Pawpaw: An Edible Landscape All Star
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Pawpaw: An Edible Landscape All Star
Permaculture Orchards in Schools
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Permaculture Orchards in Schools
Permaculture is About People
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Permaculture is About People
Permaculture's Early Days Reflections and Musings of Larry Santoyo
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Permaculture's Early Days Reflections and Musings of Larry Santoyo
180 Hours or Permaculture Immersion
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180 Hours or Permaculture Immersion
Bill Mollison's Impact on The Permaculture Movement
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Bill Mollison's Impact on The Permaculture Movement

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @iskendergulle4873
    @iskendergulle4873 15 годин тому

    Hello. Nice video. Nice video. But I think it is a wrong application. Because the number of ponds is too many. 1. After making all the ponds, the ponds may collect water in rainy periods, but in dry periods, the bottom water of the forest will drain quickly and the accumulated water will evaporate, and after a while, the forest will be damaged first, and then you will not be able to collect as much water as before. 2. When many people settle in that area, the need for water will increase and eventually you will start digging more wells. You will ruin a very beautiful forest. 3. Isn't it best for the land to remain as it is? Use as much water as the soil gives. Stay with nature.

  • @jeffsinnock5353
    @jeffsinnock5353 2 дні тому

    I have started using char that I make with two #10 cans stuck together with a small hole in the end in our fireplace. Yes it is a little labor intensive but I use all the pine cones in our townhome complex so I figure the same bioelectric current in the char as the area. once they are char I've started adding them to my leaf bins and layering them in my bioreactors and started adding it to my worm bin too. Trying to talk our HOA into doing something with leaves from each year, I do what I can. Has there been a study on where the char comes from under the same conditions and how it works in different areas compared to where it stayed in the same local?

  • @AhmedAli-mf8wz
    @AhmedAli-mf8wz 9 днів тому

    My dream it’s safe my people struggling without water 💦 just lack of education

    • @permaculture_institute_na
      @permaculture_institute_na 7 днів тому

      Its a very good dream and worth acting on! Study permaculture, get good, share your talents with those in need. Best of luck to you!

  • @GreenCanvasInteriorscape
    @GreenCanvasInteriorscape 23 дні тому

    Very educational, I've picked up a trailer of buckthorne timber and found it to be incredibly hardwood and I used it for garden bed liners and walkways and TP forms, it was free and delivered, a custom logger could deweed acreage and retrieve buckthorne poles of any size for free & getting paid for it, beautiful wood also

    • @permaculture_institute_na
      @permaculture_institute_na 19 днів тому

      Wow, never thought of buckthorn that way! It's strong wood for sure and thorny, but I can see how it has many uses in the garden. Great work!

  • @b_uppy
    @b_uppy 25 днів тому

    Disagree with some points made, but agree with globalism being a big harm. It stopped being free market and went to globalism under Reagan without Reagan being the wiser. Globalism anything but free market, and we really need to go back to localization to get our power back. The problem is the way companies can capture whole markets in a cradle to grave way that while outside of being a traditional monopoly is still a monopoly of sorts...

    • @permaculture_institute_na
      @permaculture_institute_na 19 днів тому

      Yes no doubt. We need a localized system and power base to push these monopoly-esque corporations back. That's the permaculture vision for sure. Thanks for you comment.

  • @tuesdayschild7899
    @tuesdayschild7899 Місяць тому

    Loved this. I had no idea permaculture went beyond growing a food forest. The 'help' went beyond just growing food but growing communities world wide... I am anxious to see Part 2 and beyond. Thank you so much for all y'all are doing. It's people like you that restore my faith in humanity. ***USA Georgia***

    • @permaculture_institute_na
      @permaculture_institute_na Місяць тому

      Awesome! Thanks for saying so. We'll do another one soon! Come join us for free on our permaculture only social media site, the Permaculture Crossing - community.pcx.earth/share/viUZHpofCwteZOcY?

  • @PlantRelated
    @PlantRelated Місяць тому

    I definitely want to do this too, I just don't have the knowledge yet

    • @permaculture_institute_na
      @permaculture_institute_na Місяць тому

      Hey all good. Take a Permaculture Design Course by a local permaculture teacher and you will be well on your way!

  • @BluBeatle
    @BluBeatle Місяць тому

    waves of change from all sorts of directions to help with transition to a more earth loving stewardship. Thanks for sharing.

  • @HavenPermaculture
    @HavenPermaculture Місяць тому

    We'd LOVE your support in this way. Great share

  • @stellaluuk2713
    @stellaluuk2713 Місяць тому

    For thousands if years people in Europe coppiced trees, they made baskets, cages and fences.

  • @gianpaulgraziosi6171
    @gianpaulgraziosi6171 Місяць тому

    When he said Uganda and Madagascar…I was like…you need Rule of Law first…

  • @TdotTwiFic
    @TdotTwiFic Місяць тому

    I love permaculture. The work, ideas and community behind it all brought me hope and out of mental illness. What no one is willing to answer or provide any support on is what discourages me. I might be shunned for these questions as I have been in the past by condescending comments and negative backlash or made an example of, but I am tired and want answers that I can't find. How do I run a business? How do I start a business, that thrives without burnout? How do I get a job in permaculture as I don't think I have the skills to run a business when I am starting fresh in my 40's? I have bought courses, books, went to seminars yet everyone just dances around the conversation or makes suggestions like go to school. That kind of comment doesn't help. And because I don't know everything about all kinds of computer programs and people seem to be unwilling to teach, or intolerant of personality differences, I will stand on the sidelines, like I do for everything. I know this will not encourage anyone to reach out to me but it would be nice if someone actually made a course that did what they market, sell and convince the buyer of. Four large programs I have paid into and with all these thumbs and brains I can't find the power of permaculture. I will still post this, nearly deleted it as I know what my tone comes across as, yet I still want to try for some reason.

    • @permaculture_institute_na
      @permaculture_institute_na Місяць тому

      Email me! programs@pina.in - let's talk about it. It is an interesting point you've raised.

    • @harrymills2770
      @harrymills2770 Місяць тому

      Take an interest in growing food. Get your hands in the dirt. That's how you get close to God and find peace.

    • @perspectiveiseverything1694
      @perspectiveiseverything1694 Місяць тому

      Apprentice &/or work WITH an established permaculture (or in an adjacent) company.

    • @bengtrobbert9264
      @bengtrobbert9264 Місяць тому

      Your problem is finding a job in permaculture, and your personal limitations prevent your acceptance in an organization? Is that what you’re saying? As a specialty contractor since 1975, I’ve hired and worked with many apprentices, they just wanted to learn the trade. At least 4 I know of, probably more, went on to create their own successful companies as contractors. My suggestion to you is to reach out to every permaculture farm on this planet and ask to start as an educated apprentice. Most likely the food you grow and eat will heal what ails you. Be grateful. It’s the best trait to live in.

  • @mkbnett
    @mkbnett Місяць тому

    Any body else find the music to be too loud in the beginning and the bird sound effects, too?

  • @integratorzltd
    @integratorzltd Місяць тому

    May I suggest some post editing in future to remove the ums and aams, and remove the music.

  • @portlime
    @portlime Місяць тому

    Incredible

  • @BluBeatle
    @BluBeatle Місяць тому

    Thanks for sharing , Polewood for crafting.

  • @Cringeosaurus
    @Cringeosaurus Місяць тому

    I think at some point the decision has to be weighed whether people want to make a lot of money doing this or just give the information needed to heal the planet without expecting to make a lot of money off of it. From my perspective, not being a privileged person, it seems like a lot of permaculture information, design, and education is behind a pay wall that is inaccessible to a lot of people who would actually be willing to put the work in. Just an observation from someone who has had to do all the information gathering, action, and implementation without coming from a background of financial privilege.

    • @permaculture_institute_na
      @permaculture_institute_na Місяць тому

      This was free! So are all our livestreams and interviews. Many of the classic permaculture texts can be found for free. One has to be willing to work at their own permaculture in order to make money from it, or not and just give good information to the masses. Either way, you gotta learn the skills and practice and then get to work. Document your journey and your learning, you will be happy you did!

  • @EK1626
    @EK1626 Місяць тому

    I liked what he said to get the information out so it can be better for everyone!

  • @thatguychris5654
    @thatguychris5654 Місяць тому

    ⚠️ WARNING: when adding manure, food scraps or human excrement, be aware of the chemical danger that could end up in your fertilizer if you source materials from the outside! - Food scraps, usualy have residues of herbicides and pesticides and can contain microplastics from packaging. - Manure, many cattle and horses are fed hay sprayed with GrazeOn, a persistant chemical that kills everything but grass. This goes thru the animals, into their manure and persists thru the biodigester. - Human excrement, beware of PFAS forever chemicals that are often present. Also have to contend with antibiotics, hormones, other medications etc that lingers in the waste and doesnt breakdown in the digester. Know your source!!!

    • @permaculture_institute_na
      @permaculture_institute_na Місяць тому

      So where do you get clean sources these days, with scientific studies saying there is not a single drop of rain on earth that does not contain any forever chemicals?

  • @thatguychris5654
    @thatguychris5654 Місяць тому

    Local currencies have a long history, but it is in modern times that they became colorful notes reminiscent of gift certificates and are more of a community morale currency. If you want to make a small community resilient against a federal currency collapse, you back the local currency with something. If gold and silver are impractical, use what they did historically, honey. This honey money was backed by a shelf stable, tangible good that was useful for many things. Careful not to call it money, legal tender or currency, or the Feds will be upon you. Another way could be hyper fractionalized gold in the form of Goldbacks.

    • @permaculture_institute_na
      @permaculture_institute_na Місяць тому

      Agreed, Money can't just be paper, it needs to be back by something of value. I love the honey idea, a new form of gold backed currency!!

  • @thatguychris5654
    @thatguychris5654 Місяць тому

    As a hobby colliar of 20+ years I must chime in here and geek it up: - WARNING, nothing in this video shows biochar, everything is actually raw charcoal. - Biochar is technically charcoal colonized by microbial life and absorbed full of nutrients and water. - Adding raw charcoal directly to soil will rob the soil of nutrients before it becomes beneficial in any way. - Add compost, manure and/or urine to charcoal BEFORE putting into it to soil. - The seed sprouts shown growing is a fluke because they are indeed benefiting from the moisture, but come back a month later and see how poorly they develop because of the raw charcoal stealing nutrients from the soil at first. - The easiest way to make charcoal is by digging a pit, getting a hot fire going at the bottom, them slowly adding layers of feed stock. As the top layer burns about half way, add more stock. At the end add tiny pieces to burn and cap off the pile. To save water, use the dirt you dug out to fully cover and smother the fire. Depending on size of pile, it will continue to cook for 1hr to 3 days without air. - Fun facts: - Charcoal buried in soil has been found to last over 1000 years. - 7 lbs of charcoal is the carbon equivalent to burning 1 gallon of gasoline. - You can char other things like cotton cloth and use it as a great fire starter next time. - Temperature is not crucial for any charcoal other than activated charcoal made for filtering/absorbing. - Colliar = charcoal maker - Before coal was found and used in colonial Pennsylvania, charcoal was made to use in the first iron furnaces. - You get denser and larger quantities of charcoal when using hardwood versus softwood. - You can make a still to capture the gases during the charcoal process. After diverting the moisture away, you condense the rest into methanol liquid (fuel) and tar (great for anti-rot treating lumber in ground, but carcinogenic like most modern treatments). - Charcoal is a key ingredient for Terra Preta. Adding fired clay (terracotta) and manure creates a pit of fertility that last many generations. - Biochar only works because of its immense surface area (a grape size nugget is about a football field worth). These coal chunks become sponges for water and nutrients, and apartments for microbes. Bacteria and fungi thrive here and interact with plant roots boosting growth beyond what just fertilizer can do. I've even had chunks left on the surface and tiny spiders move into some of the larger holes. Small life LOVES biochar! - Old school pitch glue was made with melted pine resin and charcoal. It's one of the strongest natural adhesives. If you believe in the carbon pollution issue, make charcoal. If you want richer soils, make charcoal. If you need filters for air, water or GI track, make charcoal. If you want clean, no-chemical cooking briquettes, make charcoal. If you want something to draw with, make charcoal. So....just go make some charcoal lol!

    • @tcoxor52
      @tcoxor52 Місяць тому

      Water saved if you use the soil capping method, but quenching with water has significant benefit as well as the sudden and dramatic change in temperature and the massive amount of steam generated has shown that it actually causes the biochar to become more porous, thus increasing it’s surface area even further.

    • @thatguychris5654
      @thatguychris5654 Місяць тому

      @tcoxor52 this is true. I was just mentioning an alternative if water is scarce.

    • @permaculture_institute_na
      @permaculture_institute_na Місяць тому

      Great comment, thanks for the addition to the discussion!

  • @thatguychris5654
    @thatguychris5654 Місяць тому

    You are NOT limited to wood to make biochar! Other examples are bamboo, leaves, pinecones, corn stalks and cobs, hay bundles and so much more. Heck, you can make char-cloth to help light future fires too. Anything that is mostly carbon can be turned to char.

  • @MoilBoil
    @MoilBoil 2 місяці тому

    can the process of making bio char release carbon into the air? Could it be bad for the climate if everybody did it?

    • @thatguychris5654
      @thatguychris5654 Місяць тому

      Carbon gets released by burning and decomposition. If we do nothing, the carbon level will be the same. By making charcoal and burying it, we lock that carbon up and remove it out of circulation for over 1000 years.

    • @tcoxor52
      @tcoxor52 Місяць тому

      It does release some carbon during the process, but the overall net gain is carbon sequestration. If the same fuel material (say a barrel of wood chips) was to be used as mulch or added to a compost pile and just left to slowly decay, eventually some of the carbon from from that will be sequestered by mycorrhizal fungi and other soil microorganisms for their functioning. But a much larger percentage will be lost to off-gassing as the carbon source slowly decays over years or decades. By converting that same carbon source to biochar through pyrolysis, you are burning off trapped gases and a small percentage will be lost to ash, but a much larger percentage is conserved as pure carbon that is then incorporated back into the soil and has been shown to remain for at least a few hundred years, some say possibly as long as even a thousand years or more. So yes, some CO2 is released, but numerous studies have shown that if burned properly, a far greater percentage of carbon is conserved compared to just allowing the fuel source to decay through natural processes.

  • @marker113
    @marker113 2 місяці тому

    I've done this a few times in a pit, definitely very labor intensive. Once you have all the material to be burned staged nearby, just start adding into the fire before the previous material is in its last third of the burn. Add enough so the last layer gets smothered and the new fuel starts. Took me about an hour or two of constant attention, but got lots of char. Great video!

  • @HoboGardenerBen
    @HoboGardenerBen 2 місяці тому

    Biochar makes no sense to, too energy\time intensive. Prescribed burns make sense, but not spending time and energy cutting\gathering biomass just to burn it up. Jean Pain's systemof chipping and gaining heat from the pile to keep grow beds warm in a greenhouse all winter is a much more advanced system. More yields for the same amount of work.

    • @tcoxor52
      @tcoxor52 Місяць тому

      It’s not just being burned up to ash though. You are creating a carbon sequestration stream that has immense benefit to soil structure and health. Just using wood chips as mulch (also important) or in a compost pile for creating a greenhouse heating system does not do the same as biochar. As that mulch or compost pile decays over time, a large percentage of the carbon is lost to the atmosphere through off-gassing.

    • @HoboGardenerBen
      @HoboGardenerBen Місяць тому

      @tcoxor52 Can't we sequester carbon in living systems without needing to expend all the energy of fire? That's the part that doesn't compute for me, super energy intensive. Carbon sequestration is about shifting the way the planet holds heat. How does it make sense to release a bunch of heat in the process of doing that? I have heard the soil building aspect is legit though, I do have to give that part credit, it is a very nice ammendment. I think it's energy audit wouldn't make sense to scale up for being a huge part of sequestration though. We gotta regrow wastelands, change albedo from surface area coverage, slow the carbon cycles in complex dance of ecosystems, not strong broad industrial strokes like making coal.

    • @truthonly7699
      @truthonly7699 Місяць тому

      @@HoboGardenerBen we have been lied to about greenhouse gases and global warming. research climate control, climate modification patents, trillion watt laser to heat up ionosphere, etc

    • @tcoxor52
      @tcoxor52 Місяць тому

      @ Absolutely, of course we can. In fact sequestering carbon via living plants, trees, and mycelial networks is the number one sink of carbon we should all be striving for and stewarding. And I don’t think anyone in the biochar advocacy community is suggesting we should be cutting down trees and killing plants just so we can produce biochar. But natural senescence is always going to be part of a living ecosystem, so why not use those resources to our greatest advantage. Within my system (part managed Syntropic food forest/garden, part native forest) I obtain a lot of biomass from dropped limbs, deadfall, pruning of orchard trees as well as support species, and from woodier annuals (corn, grain sorghum, giant miscanthus, and sunflower stalks) and perennial shrubs, bushes, and flowers on an annual basis. So, while some of that debris and biomass is left in place as chop and drop mulch or used as a carbon input in compost production, or wood chips (from larger deadfall) the vast majority of it is turned into biochar.

    • @tcoxor52
      @tcoxor52 Місяць тому

      @ Also, while producing biochar is energy intensive in the short term, it actually conserves more energy loss in the long term. Again, you release some carbon via the process of burning, but ultimately it is a net gain of lost carbon that will remain stable and sequestered for centuries as opposed to a much larger loss of carbon via off-gassing over the span of years through natural decay.

  • @swabhimanexplores
    @swabhimanexplores 2 місяці тому

    Why not post the full interview over here on UA-cam?

    • @Cringeosaurus
      @Cringeosaurus 2 місяці тому

      They did, this is a clip from a previous conversation.

    • @swabhimanexplores
      @swabhimanexplores 2 місяці тому

      @Cringeosaurus Could you link the full interview here please?

    • @permaculture_institute_na
      @permaculture_institute_na Місяць тому

      Normally the full interviews go behind the vault after a certain amount of time, available to PINA members only, but we want to spread the info, so here's the link to the full interview with Kelpie: ua-cam.com/users/live-OXio_sajuU?feature=share Think about becoming a member to PINA though to support our work, together we'll turn Permaculture into a movement!!

  • @melisboregard
    @melisboregard 2 місяці тому

    Interesting topic. Is there any easy to digest how-to-guides for this kind of community projects, local currency making etc? I find it hard to know were to start.

  • @TheNicestAssholeYouWillNvrMeet
    @TheNicestAssholeYouWillNvrMeet 2 місяці тому

    Saved to my most important playlist, thank you 🤝

  • @TheRoon4660
    @TheRoon4660 2 місяці тому

    I do not watch videos that are so amateur that they play noise behind their narrators. Play your ghastly music in the lulls.

  • @Nadine----
    @Nadine---- 2 місяці тому

    They are blaming nature for what they have destroyed for profit.

  • @RickLarsonPermacultureDesigner
    @RickLarsonPermacultureDesigner 2 місяці тому

    Participating in a PDC will make one more aware of their position on this earth; more so than even the most decorated university graduate.

  • @susandoerr3896
    @susandoerr3896 2 місяці тому

    getting close to nature and the ground is healthy and fun.

  • @SouthWestIron
    @SouthWestIron 2 місяці тому

    Wondering if Yuapon can be utilized like this.

    • @permaculture_institute_na
      @permaculture_institute_na 2 місяці тому

      Itʻs more of a shrub but there should be no reason why not, youʻll just get smaller branches

  • @InAJamAgain
    @InAJamAgain 2 місяці тому

    Live fence, coppiced top, could be a good privacy fence haha

  • @lola-bb-poplar-watchdog
    @lola-bb-poplar-watchdog 2 місяці тому

    Bought a GX commercial big Bear log hog BBC82. Processed upto 5”dai into 5”-11” chunk wood and bags it. Had an acre cleared, skidsteer operator took logs for firewood for a pro rated price, $85/hr. Left with a huge burn pile that needs to be processed.

  • @elladailylife
    @elladailylife 2 місяці тому

    It is amazing to see how much food one small garden can produce

  • @bertanelson8062
    @bertanelson8062 2 місяці тому

    Long live permaculture. Will someone please introduce it to China? From there perhaps Chinese will spread it to Africa & beyond.

    • @permaculture_institute_na
      @permaculture_institute_na 2 місяці тому

      China is a big country and surely permaculture has already been introduced there. In fact, one of the largest regenerative projects on Earth was the rehabilitation of the Loess Plateau. An area the size of Belgium was replanted with trees, terraces, and working with farmers to essentially apply permaculture at a massive scale! Check it out if you haven't! Permaculture is well ensconced in Africa with many great teachers working their in a humanitarian settings, as well as teaching PDC's to locals. Permaculture is truly - everywhere.

  • @b_uppy
    @b_uppy 2 місяці тому

    Love all the touch points covered including improved water quality and reduced flooding effects.

  • @sajithomas2158
    @sajithomas2158 2 місяці тому

    Although the problems of the world are so complex, the solution is very simple. Bill Mollison.

  • @paulnovak833
    @paulnovak833 2 місяці тому

    2015 prices😢

  • @samuelbrown657
    @samuelbrown657 2 місяці тому

    I want to do this work with you guys how do I connect with you?

    • @permaculture_institute_na
      @permaculture_institute_na 2 місяці тому

      Sounds great. You can become a PINA member at pina.in/membership/ or if you want to chat email me (Jesse) at programs@pina.in Hope to hear from you one way or the other soon.