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this has nothing to do with ICEs. We love EVs!

you are! 🤡

Amazingly compelling arguments! That always seem to end up being non-sequiturs. Is your comment also AI generated, and how could we tell?

exactly

Yes, do your research, They cause the most accidents per miles!

of course it is. Based on facts

it is but based on studies

Your compelling argument and thorough supporting evidence will surely convince the entire world that you know exactly what you are talking about!

exactly :)

this is so true

this is just about facts... Teslas causes the most accidents

only that Teslas causes the most accidents

@@ElonMuskPodcastNews the statement above is incorrect.

From a fake poster maybe?

you are fake

Teslas causes the most accident. Thats a fact

so?

so?

it is based on researches. Your handle is even auto-generated by a machine

@@ElonMuskPodcastNews I believe UA-cam requires creators to disclose if their content includes AI-generated content. This seems to be created with Google's NotebookLM, which is mind blowing, but IMO would be nice to disclose that this is not a real podcast, since it is not as obvious unless you are familiar with the tool... I am not debating the legitimacy of the information, just the transparency of the podcast creation...

@@nicolasterzani9017 that's a good and fair point. Will do so

same goes for each and every other car brand. This is why it's called a study

utter BS

this is a US study

This data is really Really hard to believe at face value. My wife drives one to work every day and I bought it because it’s safe. I still believe that to be the case, despite this report. Almost impossible to roll, and built like a tank, it’s hard to comprehend what people are doing to actually die in these cars.

are you funded by Tesla?

@@ElonMuskPodcastNews No but I’ve had multiple ones, and as an engineer I love to go deep into the technology and details of anything, specially something I am trusting my family safety on. These cars have a ton of flaws, the AC is never the right temperature, the software updates keep changing shit nobody asked for, … the list goes on, but safety is not one of them. All you have to do is look at a crashed tesla, and you can see the cabin barely deforms on a crash. These “Reports” are almost always bullshit.

@@Nonaubiz so you had multiple fundings? As an engineer in the field of ADAS I tell you that you have obviously no idea what you're talking about. These trust me bro sources are kinda wild when it comes to Tesla

@ 😂 Sure you are… 👍

I will

says who?

​@@ElonMuskPodcastNews I do . Who should decide what is what if not ever person by him or herself.

You just did

lol

source: trust me bro!

Those hypercars offer a lot better handling than a Tesla. While not a hypercar, I have encountered one video referring to the Ford Mustang as the most dangerous car model. But that's a moderately selling model from a huge manufacturer.

exactly

So your hypothesis is that Musk's continual peddling of Full Self Driving that isn't that at all, since it is only at SAE level 2 while SAE level 5 is actually required for FSD, has had nothing to do with the more than 600 deaths that occurred because the drivers relied on the Tesla AP or FSD to actually function? Note that Tesla refuses to release the car logs that they have for every crashed vehicle, for some odd reason. Surely that could not be due to Tesla having 1,750 lawsuits against them, including for never have delivered any actual FSD that has been "only two years away*, at most" since 2016. *That "two years away, at most" claim has recently been updated to "three years, at most" (2027). Meanwhile, Musk continues to make Teslas less safe, by removing the radar (even disabling it on Teslas sold with the hardware), removing the ultrasonic sensors that worked well in blind spot monitoring where even the 8 cameras cannot see, moving often used control stalks from the steering column to the central display, and no longer recognizing traffic cones that previous firmware versions used to recognize, etc. The list is large and growing. All of his changes have been to increase profit, at the expense of safety.

"... it doesn't take away the fact that Teslas are among the safest cars in production today". The Federal Government rated Tesla Model S "Safest Car of All Time" 11 years ago! But certainly not today. NHTSA has not had ANY overall safety ratings on the Tesla Model S since 2015. Musk is cozying up to Felon45 because the latter wants to remove all federal safety departments in his kakistocracy, making Musk's AP and FSD problems simply go away. Musk is doing this because he cannot actually fix AP and FSD since he also claims that totally new hardware is required, and it is also not refittable to current Teslas. So all the current Tesla owners having those driving features are simply out of luck, having paid for something that will never work. The "Insurance Institute for Highway Safety" rates the Tesla Autopilot and similar automated driving systems as ‘poor’. Some other manufactures get that same rating. Note that the recent Tesla Model Y has had good safety ratings for the last 5 years, the Model X has not been safety rated since 2021, The Model 3 has good ratings for the previous 4 years, but all of these ratings have to do with occupant safety in a crash, and have nothing to do with conditions leading up to a crash.

@@Unknown-mf4of you're not wrong about the questionable safety of the FSD feature, but that's not my argument. IMO, the Model Y without the FSD is a safe car, but the company pushing for the FSD makes it less safe. I am in agreement that removal of radar was a mistake, but i don't think it makes the Tesla less safe (i would argue that the Tesla vision only is better than USS on some cases). But it is alarming that Tesla would cut further corners that WILL make the car less safe.

at the end of the day this is about pure data

@@bubuli "I am in agreement that removal of radar was a mistake, but i don't think it makes the Tesla less safe" In fog, snow, or heavy rain? I disagree, but then I have also seen massive car pileups in the fog when I used to commute long distances.

There are way over 1700 lawsuits against Tesla and Musk. He needed the Trum win

it's all about saving money. he doesn't care about anyone but himself

you literally have no idea what you're talking about. he removed the sensors because they weren't helping with the car at all and the vision tech was better than having the sensors as they could only sense a few feet away while vision could sense hundreds of feet away.

@@greatleader4841 "you literally have no idea what you're talking about": It is often unwise to give yourself away so quickly like that. "... the vision tech was better than having the sensors as they could only sense a few feet away while vision could sense hundreds of feet away.": Wow! The several cameras have been there all along. The ultrasonic sensors were never used INSTEAD OF the cameras, they were used WITH the cameras. And the former can also "see" into close areas where none of the cameras can "see". Are you drunk? Do you even think before posting? And your username is also humorously ironic, given your quite obvious "vision" problems.

@@greatleader4841 Well, I’ve been working in this industry for over 20 years, and I can tell you there’s a huge difference between low-resolution cameras and mid-/long-range radar and LIDAR. I’m guessing you’re just here to troll

@@SaschaPallenberg see you assume they have low resolution cameras. you havent worked in the industry.

Love it when the cultists call facts based on a study a hit piece :)

@@ElonMuskPodcastNews For the intellectually unendowed, literally any excuse will do.

@@ElonMuskPodcastNews Then read the report in its entirety. Your Video description is misleading. You calling me a cultist instead of addressing my concern proves my original point. Tesla Y and S ranked 6th and 21st

@@jonn10 " Tesla vehicles have a fatal crash rate of 5.6 per billion miles driven, according to the study; Kia is second with a rate of 5.5, and Buick rounds out the top three with a 4.8 rate. The average fatal crash rate for all cars in the United States is 2.8 per billion vehicle miles driven." Tell me more 😎

yup

I can definitely confirm this after yout comment

I work on Teslas. Every model has a manual handle to open the doors. It’s mandatory in all vehicles.

@@jonn10 And absolutely everyone knows about that feature and exactly where it is located in the front and rear passenger locations for the different models, right? I'm sure that in a fire and panic situation, the first thing any trapped rear occupant would think about is to dig under the rear carpet to find the hidden release (the Model S), which by the way is also located in completely different places on different models. On some models (some Model Y's, but not all), you have to actually remove the door trim in the front to get to the release cable. Since there were 4 passengers in the fire situation, we can be pretty sure that some were located in the rear passenger area. Since this involved a Model Y, there are at least two different locations for the emergency door release, based on the year of manufacture (since Tesla does not actually have model years). Also note that any emergency responders would generally not have access to the various magical door release locations either. But, good job on gaslighting, you did not provide any actually useful information on what to do in an emergency in the affected Model Y (or for any other Tesla models) for the front and the rear passengers. I am a long time Tesla owner, but I still get quite annoyed with Tesla apologists. Some aspects of their vehicles are very good, but some are very bad, and apologists never seem to want to talk about, or even acknowledge the latter.

​ @jonn10 And absolutely everyone knows about that feature and exactly where it is located in the front and rear passenger locations for the different models, right? I'm sure that in a fire and panic situation, the first thing any trapped rear occupant would think about is to dig under the rear carpet to find the hidden release (the Model S), which by the way is also located in completely different places on different models. On some models (some Model Y's, but not all), you have to actually remove the door trim in the front to get to the release cable. Since there were 4 passengers in the fire situation, we can be pretty sure that some were located in the rear passenger area. Since this involved a Model Y, there are at least two different locations for the emergency door release, based on the year of manufacture (since Tesla does not actually have model years). Also note that any emergency responders would generally not have access to the various magical door release locations either. But, good job on gaslighting, you did not provide any actually useful information on what to do in an emergency in the affected Model Y (or for any other Tesla models) for the front and the rear passengers. I am a long time Tesla owner, but I still get quite annoyed with Tesla apologists. Some aspects of their vehicles are very good, but some are very bad, and apologists never seem to want to talk about, or even acknowledge the latter.

@@jonn10 And absolutely everyone knows about that feature and exactly where it is located in the front and rear passenger locations for the different models, right? I'm sure that in a fire and panic situation, the first thing any trapped rear occupant would think about is to dig under the rear carpet to find the hidden release (the Model S), which by the way is also located in completely different places on different models. On some models (some Model Y's, but not all), you have to actually remove the door trim in the front to get to the release cable. Since there were 4 passengers in the fire situation, we can be pretty sure that some were located in the rear passenger area.

@@jonn10 Since this involved a Model Y, there are at least two different locations for the emergency door release, based on the year of manufacture (since Tesla does not actually have model years). Also note that any emergency responders would generally not have access to the various magical door release locations either.

Out of the box... into the casket

Tesla is not the mother company … just the first to be popular

this is joke, isn't it?

Things go through a process before taking the final shape, evaluation.

@@jasondong9721 may be true.

The difference between your opinion and the facts that are based on 4 yrs study is.... well, you have an opinion. I have the facts :)

Because your beliefs trump data?

@@ElonMuskPodcastNews before your bias study. Remember, there were studies that told people that the vaccine would not injure them and would prevent them from getting Covid. Don’t believe things just because they are in line with your personal bias.

@@grisflyt For the obscurantist, absolutely any excuse will do, and no data is ever required (it never seems to exist anyway).

@@CrazedCrittic well you better tell Grok

whatever makes your happy with your opinion

@@GraveUypo and the fact that Tesla's FSD features make people believe it could drive itself. It can't!

oh stfu sook, teen can put a turbo on a cheap car and go just as fast

Mercedes EVs tend not to have such high power ratings. The mid-range Mercs are all under 300BHP. There are good reasons to limit what vehicles under-25s can drive - they have the worst accident records - because clearly rich daddies won't do the right thing and teach responsibility.

Look up what happened a few weeks ago in downtown Toronto with model Y….

@@jasondong9721they didn’t know there was a manual door release.

"Absolutely false." Your well reasoned reply, along with your supporting evidence, will surely convince the entire world that you are absolutely correct!

@@Ricklepick1996 look up how often this happens.

@@jasondong9721 well a 4 years long study clearly shows that it happens way more often with Tesla

you can't be serious... can you? Especially after we already have a shitload of studies about Tesla's high accidents rates. Guess why it's so expensive to get an insurance for these coffins?

it's always the driver because the car can't drive itself

Most deaths are from doors not opening

​@@ElonMuskPodcastNewsIT can lol???

@@Astro8kas Any fully functional Full Self Driving (FSD) vehicle must meet the SAE Level 5 requirements, while Tesla has been stuck at SAE Level 2 for many years. Tesla does make incremental improvements from time to time (and occasionally the reverse) but they remain stuck at SAE Level 2. The SAE Level scale is highly non-linear, such that SAE Level 3 is not even halfway to Level 5. In contrast, Waymo has been at SAE Level 4 for quite some time, but under restrictions like low speeds on well mapped city streets. Even so, the Waymo vehicles have been known to get gridlocked and sit there honking at each other. Calling Teslas so equipped, FSD cars is like calling a Perpetual Motion Machine the solution to the Earth's energy problems. Like the Tesla FSD, It can't ever reach the desired end goal. Musk has publically stated that all new hardware is required, and it can not be refitted into existing Teslas, so every FSD Tesla on the road isn't actually FSD, and the ones paying for that option have actually been conned.

@@Astro8kas Any fully functional Full Self Driving (FSD) vehicle must meet the SAE Level 5 requirements, while Tesla has been stuck at SAE Level 2 for many years. Tesla does make incremental improvements from time to time (and occasionally the reverse) but they remain stuck at SAE Level 2. The SAE Level scale is highly non-linear, such that SAE Level 3 is not even halfway to Level 5. In contrast, Waymo has been at SAE Level 4 for quite some time, but under restrictions like low speeds on well mapped city streets. Even so, the Waymo vehicles have been known to get gridlocked and sit there honking at each other.

what question shall I ask? Why Teslas have the most fatal accidents? Well, I did!

@ you know what I mean. The world’s best selling car is likely to have more accidents, simply because there are more of them. If you were to factor it, it might produce a different result. Insurance for Tesla’s where I am is not particularly high- it’s the limit in places to repair them and time to get them repaired that makes it more expensive than some others. Plus, ask about fatal vs injuries. If you can roll off the road down a hillside and your whole family walk away, the car is safe enough. Some crashes are due to stupidity. Some to other drivers. Again it’s what you ask and the way it’s factored. The Bell 206B is the world’s most crashed helicopter- yet the safest. Again statistics.

@markharris8929 you didn't even listen, did you? This is about how many miles it takes to have a fatal accident 🤦‍♀️

@@markharris8929Teslas are no where near the most abundant cars on the road lol

@@markharris8929 "The world’s best selling car is likely to have more accidents, simply because there are more of them." Wow! Just wow. Even if you assume that Teslas are actually the "best selling cars", that in NO way indicates that there are more Teslas on the roads than any other brand. For example, a recent search shows that there were roughly 6 times more Toyota's on the road than Teslas in 2023. And then there is this: "In 2023, Tesla's US market share increased to 4.2%, up from 3.8% in 2022. However, Tesla's share of the electric vehicle (EV) market has been shrinking. In 2022, Tesla had a 66.5% share of EV sales, but by the first nine months of 2023, that share had dropped to 56%". And: "As of 2024, there are around 5 million Teslas worldwide". "Volkswagen is the world's second-largest motor vehicle manufacturer, behind Toyota and in 2023, the Volkswagen Group delivered 9.24 million vehicles worldwide". Note that VW sold more cars in one year than Tesla totally has on the roads. (I do not own a Toyota or a VW.)

most of them have no idea about the speed and torque of EVs. That's a huge problem

New Tesla drives drive way too fast. They often have the temp plates on them but most drive very much like the average driver here in Seattle where they are super common. No surprise, manny crashes on Wham, Bam, Teslacam are brand new cars weeks or months old.

that's the spirit 🙏

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@@ElonMuskPodcastNews Thanks!

@@JamesJones-zt2yx you're welcome

This is what I'm here for and why I created this channel. Thank you for being part of this show!

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@@EstherRomero-j7r see... this is how this mess started. Whataboutism and people believing in billionaires. Congrats

It is people.com/4-killed-after-tesla-crash-sparks-fire-in-toronto-8743464