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The Vernon Richard Show
United Kingdom
Приєднався 6 кві 2024
Vernon Richards and Richard Bradshaw discuss all things software testing, quality, and life within software development.
Agile Testing Days Experience with Special Guests - Ep 12
This conversation captures the vibrant atmosphere of Agile Testing Days in Potsdam, highlighting the importance of community, targeted automated testing, and the exploration of tester identity. The hosts discuss their experiences at the conference, including workshops, networking opportunities, and a unique musical performance that showcased the talents of attendees. They delve into the significance of understanding tester identity and the symbols associated with it, emphasizing the need for connection and belonging within the testing community. This conversation at Agile Testing Days explores various themes including the experience of performing in a musical, insights from keynote speakers on technical coaching, the importance of documenting achievements for career advancement, and the evolving identity of professionals in agile environments. The discussion emphasizes the value of networking at conferences and the need for continuous learning and adaptation in one's career. [AI]
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00:00 - Introduction
01:00 - Intro LIVE from Agile Testing Days!
03:00 - Why are we here?
10:52 - The importance of networking and conferences
12:17 - What kind of event is ATD?
13:05 - The ATD Musical (you read that correctly)
18:29 - Guest: Senor Performo discussing who he is and performance testing
21:53 - Guest: Jenna Charlton explaining the relationship between testing, identity, and symbols
36:15 - Guest: Basti aka Bastian "Best Bad Boss Ever" Knerr talking about being part of the musical
39:05 - Guest: Baart Knack talking about his escapades at ATD over the years and his highlights from this year
42:01 - Vernon leaves Rich a note
42:21 - Guest: Emily Bache breaking down Technical Coaching and the Samman Method
47:16 - Guest: Ash Hynie showcasing how her startup CountrPT helps us build a second brain for our professional achievements that travels with us and protects your professional legacy
01:07:43 - Our final thoughts
{{chapters}}
00:00 - Introduction
01:00 - Intro LIVE from Agile Testing Days!
03:00 - Why are we here?
10:52 - The importance of networking and conferences
12:17 - What kind of event is ATD?
13:05 - The ATD Musical (you read that correctly)
18:29 - Guest: Senor Performo discussing who he is and performance testing
21:53 - Guest: Jenna Charlton explaining the relationship between testing, identity, and symbols
36:15 - Guest: Basti aka Bastian "Best Bad Boss Ever" Knerr talking about being part of the musical
39:05 - Guest: Baart Knack talking about his escapades at ATD over the years and his highlights from this year
42:01 - Vernon leaves Rich a note
42:21 - Guest: Emily Bache breaking down Technical Coaching and the Samman Method
47:16 - Guest: Ash Hynie showcasing how her startup CountrPT helps us build a second brain for our professional achievements that travels with us and protects your professional legacy
01:07:43 - Our final thoughts
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Storytelling in Testing: Books, Fieldstones, and Keynotes
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#contentcreation #softwaretesting In this conversation, Richard and Vernon discuss various themes including veganism, personal achievements, the writing process, and the importance of collecting ideas for content creation. They explore the significance of networking within the software testing community and reflect on the dynamics of social media, particularly Twitter and LinkedIn. The conversa...
Collabs, Careers, and Quirky Habits: Vernon & Richard's Ask Us Anything Session Part 2
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In this episode of the Vernon Richard show, Richard and Vernon engage in an AMA format, discussing various topics including their collaborative projects, future aspirations, the impact of their quality testing mindset on daily life, memorable swag from testing events, experiences in uncomfortable establishments, significant learning moments, and the importance of testing environments. They emph...
Creating an Environment for Testers to Thrive
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The conversation revolves around the challenges faced by testers and the lack of understanding and support they receive from leadership. The hosts discuss the misconception of the value of testers and the need for leaders to create an environment where testers can thrive. They highlight the importance of addressing the frustrations and unhappiness of testers and the need for leaders to take res...
Testing the Job Hunt: Red Flags, Networking, Personal Brand, and the Power of Storytelling
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Testing the Job Hunt: Red Flags, Networking, Personal Brand, and the Power of Storytelling
Dream Jobs and Emotion Based Testing: Using Feelings As Heuristics - Ep 7
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Dream Jobs and Emotion Based Testing: Using Feelings As Heuristics - Ep 7
We Have to Talk About Crowdstrike! Hot Takes and Quality Debates - Ep 6
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We Have to Talk About Crowdstrike! Hot Takes and Quality Debates - Ep 6
How No-Code Test Tools, Technical Leadership & Glue Work Impact Software Quality - Ep 5
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How No-Code Test Tools, Technical Leadership & Glue Work Impact Software Quality - Ep 5
Mentors, Mindsets, Missions, and Margherita: Vernon & Richard's First Ask Us Anything Session- Ep 4
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Mentors, Mindsets, Missions, and Margherita: Vernon & Richard's First Ask Us Anything Session- Ep 4
Playing in the Workplace and Killer Bugs - Ep 3
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Playing in the Workplace and Killer Bugs - Ep 3
Conference Rejected, Networking and Joining a New Team - Ep 2
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Conference Rejected, Networking and Joining a New Team - Ep 2
Highlights from PeersCon & Choosing the Right Medium for Meaningful Discussions - Ep 1
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Highlights from PeersCon & Choosing the Right Medium for Meaningful Discussions - Ep 1
Smoke Testing, Knowledge Work and Testing in Production - Ep 0
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Smoke Testing, Knowledge Work and Testing in Production - Ep 0
I miss the US Agile Testing Days. I hope there's a return in the future.
So do we my friend, so do we.
Great episode! Thanks for recording it 🙏🏽
Thanks Daniel. We're trying to be like you :)
@@TheVernonRichardShow keep on creating :)
Thank you for this wonderful episode! You did a great job capturing what conferences and especially ATD are about.
Thank YOU Tobias! You did such a good job with the musical - amazing!
You both are so good! Thanks so much. Looking foward to seeing you soon.
Oh! That's very kind Pepe! Can't wait to see you again soon!
Another great episode gentlemen. Keep them coming 👏🏻
Hi there! I love the podcast! I'm discovering it today 😊 About the last topic, Quality Engineering as a culture, that's something I'm trying to improve in my team, still I'm not so convinced about not having a QE role.. What we do in our QE squad, is to have two hats: 1) be the maintainers of all test tools (test framework, IaC tools, GH workflows, Jenkins pipelines, and so on), enabling other squads to write their automated "happy path" tests, and we review and improve the coverage on top of that. 2) We try to be as much involved as possible during the design phase of features (we use RFCs as GH PR to comment them), so we can share with them some thoughts about corner cases, risks, if that will not fit with other features, usability aspect and so on. And then, we also perform exploratory testing when the feature is almost done, so we extract valuable information about it for our documentation squad, we give feedback, plus catch bugs. I think we still have a lot of room from improvement in our processes, so I'm trying to learn stuff from you guys 🤓 Thank you!
Thanks for this great episode! Looking forward to you both creating more content 😜! Keep on rocking the testing community!
Swag: I love a great sweatshirt.
Whoa, that looks like the Slazenger logo 🏌💯
Man… you can say “sh*t” 😮
hahah love it! may the force be with you! really enjoying the episodes lads, keep it up!
You're a tool
I really enjoyed this chat. Great tips guys! I’m thinking of reworking my CV now 😅
Star Wars Rich... wowzers! 😂
two examples where I have "shipped" regardless of weekday: 1) A system that implements a law that takes effect on a given day. 2) A system that is scheduled with an advertising campaign scheduled for a specific day. Not to forget Eurovision, Olympics and other "live" events - where there is a lot of rehearsal up front. But when the show starts - the show must go on.
things I never thought I'd hear @MatArmstrongbmx being mentioned in this context or @FriendlyTester @WhiteboardTesting consuming such infectious content
Haha, I love it mate, can't wait for the next videos to drop. Seems like a really genuine guy, and I love the idea of repairing stuff and giving everything a go. ^RB
@@TheVernonRichardShow indeed the testa from lesta not far from him. Saw his dad out in the Ferrari the other evening and had a double take!.
Thanks for a great show. 😊
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This gentleman was an excellent episode and my head has been in the exact same place. I'd go as far to say...I'm not mad, just disappointed with people's hot takes 😂 Better yet, I can now point people to this if they ever bring up the topic in my presence again 😉
Hello Stu, people love a hot take, especially on LinkedIn, it's become the home of hot takes. Yes, send them all :) ^Richard
Brilliant episode. Thank you!
Thank you for tuning in Tristan, hope you are keeping well ^Richard
I'm not in the tech space, but a general geek who enjoys this content. Your explanation on Crowdstrike was really informative and helpful to understand how these things can go wrong. It also helped to identify the risk of leaving implementation to 3rd parties in our own systems. I think those of us not in tech over rely on those in tech and put blind faith in that their decisions and actions are always in the consumer's best interests. Not giving regard to the fact tech has its own politics and contracts to worry about.
Hello @khemitx thank you so much for sharing this perspective, and for tuning in. ^Richard
Hindsight Driven Development. There are lot of projects I bet would benefit front that 😂😂.
It's the future, or the past, or the current... :) ^Richard
The elephant in the room here is the responsibility - is it Crowdstrikes responsibility when consumers implement these SaaS tools in an inappropriate environment or the consumers havent taken their own steps to mitigate the risk? Handing control over to Crowdstrike to update your system is in itself a risk - so why has it been introduced into legacy systems that have no means of fallback? Seems the wrong product choice - probably pursuing security and not considering this operational risk imo
Hello Matt! I think we are about to find this out with Delta suing MS and Crowdstrike. If they win that case, a lot could change! Absolutely, I agree, I think the risk focus was clearly security and not a bigger picture ^Richard
Akhm, as usual the answer is it depends
Love this. I hear you Richard with the concept of Quality engineering the movement Vs Quality Engineer the role, and the mirror to DevOps. Context and maturity, just like I believe some teams and companies are still successfully having DevOps engineers, many companies are in need of quality engineers. Over time, as those QEs help change the engineering and product culture, that need may reduce. And as some of those quality engineers move to new teams, roles (engineering manager...) or onto new companies. Not all the teams will need to replace those QEa, some will have developed a strong enough culture, skill and discipline to continue without them. Other teams may continue to work for a long time, with QE as valuable members, and won't move on to operate without them. It's going to be down to the company, team and project when it works and when it doesn't. And as Vern mentioned, the support for QEs the role and QE the culture, from leadership.
Yeah, I do agree with this. My continued reflections on this is that to be a very effective QE is a unicorn set of skills. Especially to be very good at them all. I'm starting to feel that the role of QE is more of a conductor/Orchestration aka Technical Leadership. Then those specific roles, e.g. Exploratory Tester / Automater / Toolsmith / Test Lead and so for might make a return. But again it's a fine line between the activities that require actioning, and a role to specifically do that. So this QE Leader can influence that. But if push everyone to be a QE, some of those hats might not get the attention and industry improvements they require. I almost feel like it's going full circle back to QA Managers, but with a wider set of powers to influence outside of QA/Test. Still lots of pondering to do! ^ Richard
@@TheVernonRichardShow Just like quality is value that matter to someone, at a given point in time, so Quality Engineers are someone who is helpful, to some team, at a given point in time. And not all teams will need a QE, and some teams will succeed with people in fixed roles, while others will be a group of generalists. All models can work, if properly supported by management and company structure, culture and investment in people. All models can fail, with a lack of investment, poor culture and a void where leadership should have been.
I relate to Richard's 'army of checkers' mentality. I've always referred to them as an army of test-bots, which led me to adopt the moniker 'bot-whisperer.' 😆
that names makes sense now!
Another great episode guys, and thanks very much for the podcast plug as well 🫶🏻 I'll forgive Vern for slightly misrepresentating my thoughts on how I describe quality engineering as it generated a really interesting conversation 😉
OOooooooo, do you have plans to address it on a future episode of your pod? ^ RB
On the very rare occasion that I have steak, I like it so well done that my instruction is "cook it so much that you'd normally fire the chef"
That’s hilarious 😂
Learning outcomes is a great shout. One thing I hadnt thought of in my talk and abstract, puts a different light on my talk actually and how I should approach it! If that makes sense! Loving these videos! :) :)
Love it, great topics about confidence, onboarding, learning and getting unstuck. Could do without the football banter, I just don't relate. There, I said it.
Thanks for listening Ben, and for the feedback.
I really need to get those stickers printed 😊
On every assignment I have had, there has always been a heated argument about the difference between smoke, sanity, health, and a quick test. That is when I go outside doing a smoke test until they are done ;) Like the episode so keep it up!
I've always assumed it was named after the tests done by chimney maintenance....they burn a smoker to check that the air is flowing through ie is everything talking in your environment and data able to flow through
I had a friend record my talk on a phone. It's available on my portfolio site with the Q&A if you'd like to watch it back.
21:15 I guess that answers the "has Rich seen any Star Wars films yet" question 😂
you can see the moment I dig into my memory bank, and absolutely nothing comes back 😆 ~ Richard
I hope you continue on this new adventure! Great job! All parts of this first podcast are super timely!! THANK YOU!!
Amazing show! Keep it up!!
Thank you 🙏
I truly enjoyed this and I am looking forward to hear more sessions.. I could relate a LOT about what you just talked and am glad you brought to the wider community how often testing have been underestimated and considered a robotic activity.. it is absolutely true also how the 'new' automation wave is actually a test case writing v.2.. so true! thank you!
So glad you got this going, enjoyed this, great episode. Looking forward to the others. #Quality
Curious that there was no mention of Sanity tests, both smoke and sanity tests have been confused with each other in every industry i have been in. Either way love the show!! Subbed on here and Spotify!!
No job title beats Senior Expert Quality Engineer! 😄 Loved this episode. Can’t wait for the next one. 💜
It's a great job title, first SEQE I've come across 😆 ~ Richard
Whoop Whoop, a great start, I have liked and subscribed! :) :) :) "Comin' real, it's the next episode"
"hey hey hey hey test code every day" ~ Richard
What mics do you use? Sounds good
I've got an Elgato Wave:3. Vernon is used headphones with Krisp.ai running ~ Richard
Good to see you both 😛Godspeed!
Santosh 😀, hello 🙌
Episode 0: All the smoke tests have passed.
@Vernon please invest in better webcam brother. I recommend one of the 1080p units from logitech. (Say this with love) Thanks for all the awesome content!
Yes! We have this on the list, we'll find/source some funds to make it happen ~ Richard
Finally 🎉. Looking forward listening to it. All the best to you both