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IIIKNOW3
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This channel is dedicated to metalworks and chemistry.
Flux and Fire For Gold Part 2
Furter exploration of using flux and fire to remove magnetic base metals from gold.
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Flux and Fire For Gold
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In this video I explore using Flux and Fire to eliminate magnetic base metals from scrap gold jewelry.
How much Gold in Gold Plated Scrap?
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The short answer is - not much! This is really about understanding the base metals in the gold-plated scrap. The experiment with this micro-batch is only to analyze the process. Sure, it is fun with acids and fire, but it is definitely not economically feasible at such small levels. If it were scaled-up it could possibly work out with somewhat decent results.
Gold Types
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Gold Types - well that is not really right because there is only one Gold. This video is about Karat, Gold Filled and Gold Plated mostly and how it relates to refining. Thanks to my now over 1,000 subscribers and Happy New Year.
Gold Refining Outdoors
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This is a single refining of 10 karat scrap. I used the Nitric acid I made in the video I posted in July.
Copper, Nickel, Zinc, Aluminum and Acid
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Here we precipitate Copper and Nickel from an aqueous solution. Zinc and Aluminum have supporting roles. patreon.com/iiiknow3
Tin Metal Acid and Electrochemistry
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This is a follow up to the Tin Metal Acid and Electricity video. This process could have applications for refining tin metal from pewter or solder. Patreon.com/iiiknow3
Lead Chloride and Sulfate from Tin Metal
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This is a byproduct of refining tin in the Tin Metal Acid and Electrity video. Precious Metal Test Kit Amazon Affiliate Link: www.amazon.com/Professional-Platinum-Instructions-Magnifier-Precious/dp/B08N9FV3DQ/ref=sr_1_3_sspa?crid=943WR729E1UF&keywords=jsp gold test kit&qid=1689626185&sprefix=jsp gold test kit%2Caps%2C139&sr=8-3-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1&_encoding=UTF8&tag=iiikn...
Hydrochloric Acid VS Muriatic Acid
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This compares 2 molar Technical Grade Hydrochloric to Hardware Store General Purpose Muriatic Acid, which is also Hydrochloric Acid. Visit my Patreon Page at: Https://Patreon.com/IIIknow3 Transchem Muriatic Acid Amazon Affiliate Link: www.amazon.com/Sunbelt-Chemicals-Gallon-Muriatic-Acid/dp/B0B5YLG7C4/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3RZRWG0U0FT4Z&keywords=transchem muriatic acid 1 gal liquid&qid=1689490193&spr...
Nitric Acid a Different Way
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This video is about making high quality Nitric Acid a different way than I have seen anyone do it on UA-cam. patreon.com/IIIKNOW3
Tin Metal Acid and Electricity
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This is the start of an attempt to refine the tin I melted in a previous video. I use acids and a couple of electrochemistry approaches.
Sulfuric Acid and Zinc
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Using purified Sulfuric Acid to make aqueous Zinc Sulfate.
Melting Tin Metal
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I had an ingot that was supposed to 96% tin. I melted it down so it would be easier to work with. Please see my Patreon Page: www.patreon.com/iiiknow3
Sulfuric Acid Project
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I needed some sulfuric acid. This is about making Liquid Fire drain cleaner useable for metal chemistry. I hope you enjoy. Please see my Patreon Page: www.patreon.com/iiiknow3
Hydrochloric Acid on Brass Pieces
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These are undissolved pieces of brass from the Brass, Copper, Zinc and Acid series. www.patreon.com/iiiknow3
Hydrochloric Acid Copper Substance Test
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Hydrochloric Acid Copper Substance Test
Aluminum reflections... Why Did You Do a Can Melt 3?
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Aluminum reflections... Why Did You Do a Can Melt 3?
I see a different commenter did also point out the backward pouring of the two acids. The saying I've always used is "DO AS YOU OTTA, AD ACID TO WATTA. Water over acid can react and trap steam/gas and burst upward. BUT for anyone interested - the vessel's shape and diameter has a lot to do with it. Flat and open like a corning ware dish will rarely cause trouble and the fluid's temps matter as well as what types of acid. I'm totally confused as to how such a high percentage of STILL REMAINING H2SO4, as well as the H2O won't mess up just about any chemical interplay, tests, actual reactions/work a person needed the HNO3 for. But, ThanX for your work and sharing.
How May I purchase silver powder?
At 3:44, are you decanting the Cu/Zn (aq) solution from impurities? And I can't see anything in the beaker at 4:00, so I don't know what exactly you're pouring 50ml of 3 _M_ HCl onto
As a kid I used to put this in a narrow neck flask and fill up a balloon with the hydrogen gas. Tie it off and light it to make a mini sun. Good times.
It’s pronounced “Bom” and is in degrees
Is this lithic metals?
I hear that . I’m watching all the videos and some are good and others better. You had good results with the recipe and the technique is very doable. Thanks
I was under the impression you can also make it by electrolysis of store bought ammonia.
Interesting but unless I need to dissolve a pull tab I don't get the point. A better experiment would be to compare the two actually doing something productive like cleaning concrete.
@@davebryant8050 The faster it dissolves a can tab, the easier it will clean concrete. Based on this video, the Muriatic will work better than the other. Yes, go ahead and buy different grades of acid and compare, have fun. Make a video.
3:27 the most interesting part , amazing
I came to make a comment. But after watching your video. I feel like one isn't needed. You be you buddy.
@@Wintrycomet757 Thanks I guess. Have a good life.
Good info, thanks :D Should update you link for Amazon
This reminded me of a while back, there were many TV commercials wanting to pay people to send in their scrap jewelry. I though it seemed like a form or government gain somehow, maybe not. I did work for a guy as a teen as scrapping wrecking non-ferrous metals, and we sometimes would come across piles of old circuitry boards, computers, later to realize I was not thinking of the precious metals in them at the time. Kewl channel, I'll save this video in a playlist if I need to know how to refine, sub 4 you also+1...
@@occamsrazor9183 thanks man...
Loving the SSHp ('Super-scientific-hotplate'). After nominating the inoffical mascot & abbreviating it for convienience, i got my weird stuff out of the way... I really enjoy the chill pacing, explanations & the 'not perfect' setting. I have to catch up on a looooot of theory from my chem 101 & stock up towards a decent beginners kit. but being able to already get a lil busy with some practical bits, probaly will help a lot with keeping my motivation up. so.. yeah. Thanks :D
Can you show how to make 4% HCl from Store bought Muriatic Acid? I am trying to create Chlorine Dioxide from 80% Sodium Chlorite flakes and and 4% HCl.
Thanks my friend hasta luego 👍👍👍👍👍👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
this is a more affordable way for the average interested user and if done with saftey in mind easily done.tyby the way a super strong nitric acid will form a barrier on copper and will not oxidize the metal..add a little water to the mix and see if that will start th copper reaction. if so then you will know you have a high concentrated acid ,or do the weight test
Can you use sodium nitrate in this process
Thank you @IIIKNOW3 for posting, ask me how many f***ks I give who gets credited... none!!!! I'm just happy and grateful u shared it, dont let these haters get u down nit picking er lil thing about the vid, it's 100% perfect u r tha MAN!!!
yo i have the same hot plate but in white yeah bro that's the super science hot plater IF i bught nitric acid here in Canada its per liter %$3000!
Thanks dude! Gonna try it
This is exactly what I needed...You're a mad lad. Thank you for the upload and the help.
For a hot second there, when you had the pop tabs bubbling, i could swear i could smell it.
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I just subscribed, and thanks for sharing.
Are the crystals still usable or are they done
I doubt your veracity
What makes you think I am dishonest exactly?
Stop putting water in your kno3. You do not need to. Put them in your boiling flask with sulfuric acid and heat. You are making poor man's nitric.
Congrats on 1k! It’s been a while, but did you get the package of metals I sent a while back?
Yes I did! Thanks a lot. I actually used some in the gold refining video.
Just subscribed, the link for muriatic acid is non functional just a heads up, Question I had a failure melting and pouring placer gold, I tried to pour the melted placer gold into a metal square rod mold so i could roll it and draw it through a draw plate, the issue came when the molten gold stuck to the steel mold and during the pour overflowed the recessed cavity and became a blob ontop the mold, I turned the mold upside down and reheated it to release the gold from the mold But i got to hot and melted part of the mold into the gold trying this. Question is can i now remelt the gold/iron pour it into water take it out of water and put it inTranschem Muriatic Acid and distilled water 2 parts water to one part acid to dissolve the iron/steel and leave just the placer gold? tks
The muriatic acid will dissolve the iron and leave the gold. It will take a long time though. Heating the acid while it dissolves will speed things up, but be careful of fumes. You may try to mechanically remove as much of the mold as possible with an angle grinder, bench grinder, or whatever you have first. Sorry the link is dead; I will try to update it soon.
Oh, and next time use a graphite mold. If it sticks you can bust it off. Thanks again!!
@@IIIKNOW3 Oh 4 sure on that note graphite 4 sure, I used this steel one for silver rod and it worked perfect but with gold a different story, tomorrow I am going to melt gold and just get it liquid in the dish and then shortly after that pull out the disc/slug with pliers as I do not have a graphite mold yet
I noticed LazerSteve cold nitric recipe is 100ml of water, 202grams of potassium nitrate, 56ml of sulfuric acid (96%+) What am i missing here?
LazerSteve is a very smart man. I have learned a lot from him. His recipe is probably more chemically balanced by stoichiometry than what is in the video I made. This acid has residual sulfuric in it which is bad if you need to make lead nitrate or I have been told barium nitrate also. It doesn't hurt anything if you are using it for copper, silver or in Aqua regia for gold; in fact, it is helpful to remove any lead that may be in your material like from solder. This was given to me by someone years ago, and I don't even remember the guy's name. I only made this video to show what helped me get access to nitric when I couldn't purchase it.
@@IIIKNOW3 Yes, it works great on dissolving base metals leaving gold foils, and aqua regia. I would've been without had you not posted this video.
That's wats up thank you bro! Hmu
You are welcome!!
Awesome! Thank-you so much. I will definately try this method.
So, what is the concentration percentage of the solution, and can the concentration percentage be increased by heating?
Can you use sodium nitrate instead of the potassium nitrate? Or would you have to substitute the sulfuric acid with hydrochloric acid? I ask because I see nitric acid substitute sold online which is basically sodium nitrate but it says to mix hydrochloric acid, not sulfuric acid.
Where do you live? Last time I bought nitric, I paid just under $200 for 10l, with tax and shipping included. That isn’t nearly as good as $4/l, but it’s WAY better than $70/l. I’ve been looking for a process like this to make small quantities so I don’t have to store large amounts of nitric for years. So thank you, I’d much rather store large amounts of kno3 than liquid nitric. I’ll definitely try this method very soon
I live in Florida. So I paid about $145 for 2.5 Liters delivered, so more like $58/L I spaced on the half liter LOL. I know I could find better pricing, especially if I bought more quantity. Where is your source? Next time I would be willing to buy 10L at $20 each. If you try this, know there is extra sulfuric that will be unreacted which won't hurt if you are working with copper, silver, gold and the likes. Thanks!
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Thanks, I will try them next time.
I think you can check for copper with amonia. That may be a nitric solution, not sure. Take a small sample and drip in some amonia, if it turns blue, it's copper. Adding more will clear the solution up again
You are correct. Also an aqueous sodium hydroxide solution will make a blue solid precipitate. Thanks for the view and the comment. Have a great day.
Hey i think the flux contains metal sometimes that happened to me a couple of times and it was high purity gold powder i think its the flux depending on what kind you use i dont use chapman ever again it ruins your gold
I heard good things about the JSP brand of Fluorspar that I used in this video, so I tried it here as a thinner. The Borax is just 20 Mule Team, which is not the anhydrous kind, but I have never had any issues. The Potassium Nitrate is Spectracide Stump Remover that is always very pure stuff. The Silica is just a crushed-up quartz melt dish (trying to recycle) which may contain some other trace metals from its uses. At this point I was only focusing on getting rid of that magnetic stuff. By the end of this one, I could just part with acid because of the high silver content, but I want to do one more just sticking to the flux and fire to see how far I can go before having to switch to acids. I would actually like to switch to a cupellation, but I don't want to use lead and I haven't done one with bismuth yet. As always, I appreciate you. Go find more "dragon stones" LOL love your vids too!!
That flux screws up stuff sometimes
Don't we all screw-up sometimes LOL!!
Just woundering So i tryd this the first time and it worked did a test of about 25g crystals and reduced the ammount of water and sulphuric so i did the rest of my crystals and it still worked once brought to room temp it dose react with copper however it came out verry cloudy like a milky white color woundering what whent wrong the seccond time and if theres a way to clear it up
My first question would be about the copper. Is the copper clean and bright, or old stuff, like soldered in places?
10:23 if I'm not mistaken press and seal is also made of PTFE I think it's made by glad but it's for covering food like cling wrap but far better and I've used it to double over and screw metal caps under glass jars with much success just in case you can't find a plastic lid that fits your glass jars or bottles
You could be correct about press and seal, but I don't know. The do sell PTFE cap liners on Amazon in various sizes although a bit pricey. I have found that using metal caps/lids will corrode over time with even a liner. HDPE is fairly resistant to Nitric, unless you have the 95%+ fuming type stuff. If you plan to make this, you should also plan for only short-term storage anyway. Thanks for the comment and the view!!
@@IIIKNOW3mine didn't turn out as well as yours it was a little weak but I'll try again when I can afford to take another shot at it I'm on a virtually non-existent budget so I have to be patient but that gives me more time to strip phones and laptops and various other assorted electronic devices but I'll eventually get there. I might have done something wrong because I had a lot of potassium sulfate Crystal's left as a by product so I don't think I got a very efficient run out of it. I would love a more efficient process without so much leftovers I can't do much with if you happen to know of any that don't require distillation
Well, I appreciate the conversation. What I did to be more efficient and have less waste was to purchase 70% premade stuff. The downside is the cost at around $75 per quart. This was the best way I found to make a workable Nitric for a lot less money and without distillation. There are other ways, but they all have downsides. Sometimes the crystals form differently, even trapping good HNO3 inside them. I would recommend trying several times to see if you can get better results with practice. What I did sometimes was to pour off what I could at first and use that as the higher concentration, then wash the crystals in distilled water and save that when a lesser is acceptable. Can I ask what methods you are using and which parts you are trying to process and what metals you hope to recover?
Can anything useful be done with the potassium sulfate by-product? 5:30
I have heard it makes an excellent fertilizer, potassium, sulfur, go figure right? You probably want to check what your plants prefer before applying. I have bags of the stuff just in case I find a need. It seems like it could also be used in a flux recipe to convert base metals like iron and copper into sulfides for removal from precious metals in a furnace. Maybe I will test that one day also LOL. Currently I am working on something like that for gold plated scrap, and it could also work in refining computer or electronic wastes.
Oh, also make sure it is rinsed very, very well, in case that is not common sense. LOL
Good job
Thanks
Congrats for the 1K
Thanks!!!
Thanks for vidéo
You are welcome!
Great video! Thanks!
You are welcome
Get yourself a simple retort and pull off WFNA/RFNA!
I purchased a distillation set so fuming should not be difficult. For my purposes, working with metals especially silver and gold, there is no need to go above 70% and in most applications even that will be diluted or mixed with Hydrochloric for Aqua Regia. I actually purchased 2.5 liters of premade Nitric at 68-70% to make my life easier but it is very expensive. This video is just how I made mine to use for silver when I didn't have the funds to get premade, so I thought I would share for someone who is now where I was then. There is such a small margin in small batch precious metal refining if you have to purchase the source material then buying nitric is too expensive. An example would be if you bought a bunch of silver plated stuff and thought you would dissolve the whole batch in Nitric to recover silver and copper; then your acid expense would be about 2000% or more of the metal value recovered. Thanks for watching and the comment!!
@IIIKNOW3 Yes, I suspect that there are some better electro chemical methods to recover precious metals than the very heavily chemical based methods being commonly used on yt
never ever pour an aqueous solution into sulphuric acid. the acid becomes concentrated and wikk will boil and slash. you ALWAYS POOR ACID INTO SOLUTION NOT SOLUTION INTO ACID. dont be like this person, be safe be smart!
Yeah, pouring the acid into the aqueous solution has caused violent eruptions and burnt my skin. You watched the video, there was no splash or anything dangerous. Just because you learned something in a book that is usually what happens, does not always mean that it applies to all situations. I know this from my experience and my previous mistake that actually caused me minor pain, and it could have been worse. Please know what advice you are giving. Go back and watch it again and post the time where this violent reaction happened. Thanks for watching and the misinformed comment.
And it is POUR not POOR
Be smart and learn to use the proper verb if you are going to criticize someone else's work.
You really invest in a distillation set.
I did thank you.
Just saw this thanks I refined some silver this weekend and it cost More in acid then I recovered after splitting
Thanks for the comment. I recently purchased 2.5 Liters of 68-70% Nitric for about $145 after shipping and all. It takes quite a bit of it to dissolve Sterling Silver. I use it for Gold, but it is too expensive to use for refining Silver unless the Silver is FREE! You can use this acid for Silver and Copper, no problem and save big $. I even did a video using the last of this batch to refine some gold about a month ago. It is not perfect and it does contain some left over sulfur, but that won't hurt anything when using on Copper or less reactive metals like Silver and Gold. In fact, it will drop any Lead out as white Lead Sulfate. Have a great Christmas holiday season. Be careful and good luck!!
@@IIIKNOW3 I reused the copper nitrate by removing the copper w/ electrolysis . I was able to cement Sterling bypassing the disolving and Cementation route . Look forward to making nitric for my next cell thanks again
Do mind if I clear something up ? To make poor man’s nitric Do you have to add water , can the KNO3 just be added to H2SO4 , then freeze the copper sulfate crystals out .
Ps Lazer Steve straightened me out with removing the copper from copper nitrate ( thanks LS)
@@Hill-13 It has been suggested to leave out the water, and some have told me they never use H2O. You don't need water if you are going to use distillation with the KNO3 and H2SO4, and the results will be better although more work. I was going to try the poor man's, freezing without water but haven't had the time yet. This video is how I made it with the best results over the years. If you plan to use this method regularly, try adjusting the ingredients until you find the best for you. I just found out the hardware store near me discontinued stocking the Spectracide Stump Remover. That is disappointing because I was working on a flux recipe containing KNO3 as an oxidizer and I am almost out. Let me know what happens when you try no water.