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Have you seen the "Word count" line at the bottom of the drop-down menu behind the three dots in the upper right corner of any page?

@@TheOrganizedWriter Yes. Sorry, I meant I want it to be able to count the words on a page and then display it in a column on the main database page for that writing assignment. As of now, I get the word count, then fill in a column, then have a formula next to that to determine if i have reached my word count goal for that piece. (if that makes sense)

Ah, I see. Yes, it would be great to have word counts available to database setups. I haven't had the problem yet, because I write the actual texts for my projects in other apps, while using Notion for planning, structuring and persisting deatuls. I guess I should consider writing in Notion too at some point..

@@TheOrganizedWriter I never thought I would be using Notion for my actual text, but I started to a few months ago and found myself loving it. Everything about your stories is all in one place. I have been writing my full first draft in a Notion Page and then moving the text over to a word doc file. Then edit and revise from there.

Nice! Do you use one single Notion page for the whole draft then, or separate into scenes or other parts?

Good platform tips, thank you!

Thank you so much, that means a lot to me! The more I write, get ideas for stories (and UA-cam videos now), I find having a practical and accessible tool crucial! I am very systematic in nature (hence the name of the channel) and found Notion perfect for this. It sounds like your experience will make Notion a perfect tool for your writing process as well. I would really like to hear your thoughts after trying it! I understand the confusion in that screen of the video. Probably my software engineer background and forgetting that most people are not used to terms from that world 😅 Rel stands for Relation, indicating that the column/property is a relation to another database. Rels is the same, but with multiple selectable relations.

You're welcome! 😊

I wish I could brag about drawing it myself or something like that, but it was made by Dall-E (ChatGPT for images) 😅 I can send it to you if you tell me your mail address or some other way of sending a file.

@@TheOrganizedWriter sounds great. I will message your profile my email.

It's fantastic to hear that the video is for help. I am planning a follow-up video about Notion, hopefully to be released within the next few months. I will take your suggestion into the plans for that video. Happy writing!

I am glad you liked it! I haven't made any reusable templates in Notion, mostly since I am changing it whenever I find any improvements, so the setup basically evolves with the craft. I guess I could try to generalize it into a reusable template, but there is the issue of time 😅

Thank you for your suggestion. I have a follow-up video about Notion planned. I'll add that to the list for that video 😊

@@TheOrganizedWriter Thank you!

I included a part on tracking progress in the followup-video. Hope you like it 😊 Link: ua-cam.com/video/FcvwCa642H8/v-deo.html

Ai character is about building the story. This is videos with opinions and knowledge/experience. Different thing in my opinion.

@@TheOrganizedWriter that explains nothing besides what a youtube video is. I'm saying just it's kind of hypocritical to criticize something when you use the same thing your criticizing. Also, you say Ai character is about building the story but isn't everything in storytelling about building the story and a AI character in said story would be apart of it?

My point is that, as I say in the video as well, that I am not in any way negative to use AI as a character. I have worked as a software developer for many years and technology is something I like. Many of my favorite films have AI characters. It is what they have made that AI character in Dead Reckoning able to do, and how they integrate it into the plot that I don't like. That's storytelling. So since I am not negative to the use of AI character, I don't see how that is hypocritical in any way. It is the storytelling they do with that AI character I criticize.

@TheOrganizedWriter so I'm confused, you're fine with ai as a character which doesn't make sense but when ai is a plot point you have issue? I'm just lost at this point. Also why is there this need to use ai for everything today? Have we regressed as humans. Are we actually so doomed like what science fiction has predicted in the past? Probably not but it's really annoying today

@TheOrganizedWriter i should phrase my thinking like this. AI should be used as a tool instead of the main draw or it'll turn out like that scene in Christmas Vacation, nice looking turkey but has nothing to eat. I'm sure you have interesting ideas and ways to put them, but using ai to do a voice over feels like tripping before a race starts. Personally I feel like there is a disconnect from content creator and their content when I'm hearing an ai voiceover in a video. What I'm trying to say is try doing your own voice overs for a try. Unless you write your videos with chat gpt, because that would be cheating then

People have different preferences. I switched from Obsidian because I spent too much time tidying up / restructuring when needed, and wanted more flexibility in structuring data (which Notion databases is great for). It's good that you have found a tool that suits your needs 👍

Thank you very much for your kind words and constructive feedback. It means a lot! And good luck with your first story! What genre are you writing in? I see your point. I focused more on the general thinking, and some more concrete examples might have helped improve the understanding of how this is different from the more traditional plotter or pantser approach. As a writer, I totally feel you on the chaos of building stories. I wrote my first novel in about three years, then understood much more about the craft and was then able to see a lot of weaknesses in that draft of the book. In stead of doing a complete rewrite, I decided to learn more of my missing pieces of knowledge while writing the second novel. I first spent almost a year planning it (much longer than I thought in advance I would use), and during that phase was when I understood that I worked in a different way from what people usually describe when the talk about outlining/plotting and pantsing (is that a word?) while writing. That was why I wanted to make this video, as I see a kind of middle ground between the two, that does not have the limitations people on each side of that polarized debate talk about being the weaknesses of the other side. But after completing about 80% of the second book, which I believe have a much stronger foundation than the first, I suddenly understood that I might be the kind of person that actually will enjoy writing screenplays more than novels, so now I consider rewriting the second book to a full feature screenplay. 😅 So total understanding of the chaos from me! By the way, have you seen the other video (linked at the end of this one) about Notion for Writers? I believe it could at least to an extend show a mord practical example of what the skeleton method means for the writing process.

@@TheOrganizedWriter- Well, first... I've been writing a lot since 2001. But it's all been in MMORPGs, roleplaying play-by-post forums, and the like. (And I've been a forever Dungeon/Game Master since the late 90's.) Which has made me very strong at characterization, description, setting/worldbuilding, scenes and sequels, and thinking on my feet. Plotting/structure is more... node-based. I've only recently come to really grasp story structure. (I used to feel like it was a straightjacket. Now it's just a ladder or trellis for all the story vines to climb on.) So most of the time I've been basically an organized pantser. Until more recent times. :D It's only been in the last few years I wanted to go for publication. My debut is a short story, or supposed to be short story. It's really more of a novelette in it's current form. "Hard Contact" (working title) - When a crew of the C.E.N.N. Vigilant pick up a distress call on the edge of the Epsilon Eridani solar system, Captain Evelyn Hartman orders her crew to investigate and attempt a rescue. But when they arrive they find an unimaginable enemy that confronts their very understanding of reality. Will they make it through, and can they warn Command of this new threat? It's a first contact story, when we run into an alien ship, which is not only alien, but magical. Completely outside of the scope of most people's knowledge or experience. It's kind of a cross of a number of different things. The Expanse, submarine warfare, a little Star Trek. People familiar with TTRPGs might see some RIFTS dna in there. I write all sorts of speculative fiction. Science fiction is one of my strongest, followed by fantasy. As for story types, I love espionage, thrillers, mystery, and action/adventure. I apparently have a strong military sci-fi streak in me too. As for Notion, I'm a fairly experienced Notion user. I did watch at least part of that video, but after a while I started getting a headache. It was a little toooo much organization. Fatigue was also probably a factor.

Sounds to a great extend similar to my favorite genres. I write close future stories that include technology as an important part of the world and story/plot. The notion video is just an example of how to build the plans, story and details fragmented and restructure as needed so the outlining does not limit creativity, which is a strength I believe in.

I am glad you found it useful! I was a bit unsure how to present the process of creating all the properties of the database tables, so to avoid the video getting way longer than it is, I chose to show the process once, and then fast forward through the same processes for the other tables, so if someone wanted to see the details, they could go through it slowly like you did, but if someone just wanted to understand the process, they would only need to see it once. I hope it wasn't too inconvenient 😅

@@TheOrganizedWriter not inconvenient at all. I'd love to see some more videos, looking forward to them.

Anything particular regarding Notion you would like to see more of after seeing this first one?

@@TheOrganizedWriter I'd like to see more processes on relations and rollups. I don't quite understand the rollups. I am getting the relations. But anything to do with your writing process would be great.

I'm taking note of that. Time is the most limited resource unfortunately, but I will try my best to get a video out on more details like that at some point. Shout out if you can think of more. And thank you for supporting the channel 😊

Worldbuilding is a fantastic journey of thoughts for writers! Do you write details down systematically then, or just fill the head to prepare for the plotting/writing?

@@TheOrganizedWriter I write them down, in Notion and LegendKeeper. They're my two go-to Worldbuilding options at the moment.

I have not seen that movie, but from the looks of it, it should be a good candidate for a film analysis! I'll add it to the future video candidate list 😊

@@TheOrganizedWriter yeah it's a classic thriller

Very good, me too! How do you decide how much to plan before starting to write the first draft?

@@TheOrganizedWriter Being a visually oriented person, I like to think in terms of the storyboard concept, even when writing a novel. I also am ever aware of stylistic considerations reading other novels to craft.

@@TheOrganizedWriter Reading for craft is the term I meant. Such an attention to style within the confines of "voice" should be woven into the structuring of the novel.

That is an interesting topic. The link between voice / style and structure. In some stories you notice the structure very clearly, even if it doesn't necessarily lower the quality too much, while others have structure that you can find when you look closer, but it is not as clear as day.

Yes, they looked like a green version of Avatar. When you notice it, you can't unsee it 🤢