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Is Yahweh or Satan the God of This World?
In 2 Corinthians 4:4 we read about "the god of this world" who blinds the minds of unbelievers. Who is this "god"? James White and others interpret this to mean Yahweh, while the majority of commentators and scholars believe Satan is being referred to. Let's look at the evidence.
Article referenced by Donald E. Hartley: rdtwot.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/2cor-44.pdf
James White on the god of this world: ua-cam.com/video/M2QQB2K5X3E/v-deo.html
Time Stamps:
00:00 Introduction
05:58 Arguments for Yahweh
30:03 Arguments for Satan
Shepherds Theological Seminary (where Peter Goeman teaches): shepherds.edu/
The Bible Sojourner Audio podcast: anchor.fm/the-bible-sojourner
More About The Bible Sojourner Host, Peter Goeman: petergoeman.com
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Were Zionist Jews Behind the Scofield Bible?
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Is it true that Zionist Jews were responsible for the Scofield reference Bible? Was Zionism a determining factor in producing the Scofield Bible? Let's take a look and see what we can figure out. For the full video: ua-cam.com/video/jLtgcJFtbo0/v-deo.html Shepherds Theological Seminary (where Peter Goeman teaches): shepherds.edu/ The Bible Sojourner Audio podcast: anchor.fm/the-bible-sojourner ...
What does the Early Church Teach on Eschatology? With Michael Svigel
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What did 1st and 2nd century Christians believe about eschatology? The early church is a treasure trove of information and is insightful comments on eschatological expectation and hope. We join patristic scholar and expert, Dr. Michael Svigel, from Dallas Theological Seminary. He walks us through some of the beliefs of the early church as he introduces us to his recently released book, The Fath...
Where Did Darby Get the Rapture Doctrine? Hint: Not Margaret MacDonald
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Fact Check: Did Darby invent the secret rapture through alleged special revelation? You may be surprised to learn that there is actually good historical evidence for where Darby first received the doctrine of the rapture. The name of his source was Thomas Tweedy, not Margaret MacDonald. Link to full video: ua-cam.com/video/jLtgcJFtbo0/v-deo.html Shepherds Theological Seminary (where Peter Goema...
Breaking Down Dispensational Teachings from the Shepherds Conference
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In this video, we briefly assess the Shepherds 360 Conference on dispensationalism and provide a few short interviews with some of the presenters. The sessions from the conference will definitely be worth listening to. The topics dealt primarily with dispensationalism, covenant theology, kingdom of God, Israel and the Church, premillennialism, God and Government, etc. Join us as Dr. Goeman prov...
Why 666 in the Bible CAN'T Refer to Nero
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Is the infamous number 666 in the Book of Revelation really about the Roman Emperor Nero? What does the 666 in Revelation 13:18 mean? In this video, we explore why the popular theory linking 666 to Nero doesn’t hold up under closer examination. We’ll dive into the historical context, biblical language, and theological implications to uncover the true meaning behind this mysterious number. If yo...
Analyzing Joel Webbon's Flawed Understanding of Dispensationalism
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Joel Webbon has positioned himself as one of the leading voices of the neo-postmillennial movement. In addition to his own work at Right Response Ministries, he also has had the opportunities to speak at conferences and other well known UA-cam channels. Recently he has an interview on the Auron MacIntyre show about the problems with dispensationalism. In this video, we review Webbon's understan...
The Christian Call to Humility | From a Not-Yet-Humble "Expert"
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Christians all acknowledge that humility is important, but why is that? In this video, we talk about why humility is so important, and we present 11 hallmarks that give insight into what humility looks like in the Christian life. Be warned though... humility can be painful to think through. Time Stamps: 00:00 Introduction 06:00 The Importance of Christian Character 24:31 The Biblical Emphasis o...
Challenging 4 of the Best Arguments for Dating Revelation Early
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Preterists argue that the internal evidence in the book of Revelation is strong enough to challenge the early church's testimony supporting a late date for Revelation. In this video, we analyze four of the best preterist arguments, which are frequently cited as compelling evidence that Revelation was written early, before the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70. Time Stamps: 00:00 Introduction 08...
Goliath was NOT a Philistine! Where did he come from?
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Although David and Goliath is one of the most well known stories in the Bible, most people assume that Goliath was a Philistine. The truth of the giant's ancestry may surprise you. #goliath #david #davidandgoliath #giants More About The Bible Sojourner Host, Peter Goeman: petergoeman.com Shepherds Theological Seminary (where Peter Goeman teaches): shepherds.edu/ The Bible Sojourner Audio podcas...
The Early Church on Baptism and the Return of Christ: What the Didache Reveals
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What did early Christians believe about eschatology and baptism? In this video, we analyze the Didache, one of the earliest Christian documents we have outside of Scripture. We discuss the Didache's instructions concerning baptism and its teachings about the end times. The Didache's teachings provide evidence for immersion in baptism as well as significance evidence against the preterist positi...
The SHOCKING Meaning Behind "Take Up Your Cross and Follow Me"
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The SHOCKING Meaning Behind "Take Up Your Cross and Follow Me"
Compelling Evidence for a Late Date of the Book of Revelation
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Compelling Evidence for a Late Date of the Book of Revelation
How Many People Died in Noah's Flood?
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How Many People Died in Noah's Flood?
Common Bible Study Errors and Tips to Avoid Them
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Common Bible Study Errors and Tips to Avoid Them
The Truth about Many So-Called Christians | Exposed by the Bible
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The Truth about Many So-Called Christians | Exposed by the Bible
Hello, I'm Peter Goeman - One Minute Intro
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Hello, I'm Peter Goeman - One Minute Intro
When was Revelation Written? The Fatal Flaw in Preterism
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When was Revelation Written? The Fatal Flaw in Preterism
Has the Bible's Text Changed Over Time? Exploring the Evidence
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Has the Bible's Text Changed Over Time? Exploring the Evidence
Is Jesus King on David's Throne Today? What Scripture Reveals
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Is Jesus King on David's Throne Today? What Scripture Reveals
Understanding Ezekiel's Future Temple Sacrifices in the Kingdom
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Understanding Ezekiel's Future Temple Sacrifices in the Kingdom
Why do We Capitalize English Pronouns When Referring to God? And Other Questions
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Why do We Capitalize English Pronouns When Referring to God? And Other Questions
Comparing Discipleship in the Early Church vs. the Modern Church
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Comparing Discipleship in the Early Church vs. the Modern Church
Examining FOUR Popular Arguments for Infant Baptism
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Examining FOUR Popular Arguments for Infant Baptism
Responding to a Bold Critique of Servant Leadership
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Responding to a Bold Critique of Servant Leadership
My Bible Translation Disagrees in Deuteronomy 32:8! Sons of Israel or sons of God? What is going on?
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My Bible Translation Disagrees in Deuteronomy 32:8! Sons of Israel or sons of God? What is going on?
8 Insights Your Pastor Wants you to Know About Podcasts
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8 Insights Your Pastor Wants you to Know About Podcasts
The Game-Changing Resurrection of Christ
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The Game-Changing Resurrection of Christ
Why is Christianity Different than Other Religions?
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Why is Christianity Different than Other Religions?
Is the New Testament the Key to Understanding the Old Testament?
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Is the New Testament the Key to Understanding the Old Testament?

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  • @Dgrinde
    @Dgrinde 13 годин тому

    Rothschild behind israel We all care because its based on truth and whonhas the motivies to do this. You barking up the wrong tree.

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner 12 годин тому

      Part of the Rothschild family was behind settling in Israel, but not all of them. Also, many (most?) American Jews were very much against resettling the land of Palestine. Important that we actually consult the historical facts. But the point I was making, and I don't think you understood, is that the Rothschild family could have their own motives for doing something, while Scofield could have different motivations for doing something. People are allowed to have differing motivations. Similar to how Cyrus allowed for the return of the Jews to their homeland because he was trying to maintain a healthy kingdom. But ultimately God used the unbelieving motivations for his plan. That's the point.

  • @wesleyadams6108
    @wesleyadams6108 19 годин тому

    You do such a professional job not totally bashing others point of view but laying it out and using Scripture pointing out a Biblical point of view. Some have to push the boundaries trying to show there is no distinction between Israel and the Bride of Christ

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner 17 годин тому

      Appreciate that encouragement. Please pray that God will keep me humble enough to pursue this kind of attitude perpetually.

  • @davidcrane6593
    @davidcrane6593 20 годин тому

    I'd say simply read the bible... The Lord plainly tells us HE loves Zion. Psalm 9:11 KJV - Sing praises to the LORD, which dwelleth in Zion: declare among the people his doings.

  • @Calvinist-Premil
    @Calvinist-Premil 20 годин тому

    I always read 2 Corinthians 4:4 as referring to Satan which makes the most sense. To be honest I never knew that there was another view. Since 2nd Corinthians was written before 70 AD preterists have a problem since the kingdoms of this Earth don't become the Kingdom of our Lord and his Christ until the blowing of the 7th Trumpet. Obviously as Premilillennials we Know Revelation was written after 70 AD and that the 7th Trumpet hasn't been blown yet and therefore Satan is still the God of this age. Being that God is sovereign you can tie his sovereignty to any aspect and therefore always be right but to me Paul is clearly talking about a 2nd cause and you gave enough supporting passages.

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner 20 годин тому

      Well said. I plan on doing a follow-up episode talking about the eschatological ramifications.

  • @ttbministry
    @ttbministry День тому

    Go all the way back to the original sons of Israel. They were mostly not a righteous people. Though God had still chosen them. Reuben slept with his step mother, Levi & Simeon were brutal mass muderers, Judah at least once visited a prostitute. 8 of the 12 wanted to murder their brother Joseph. 9 of the 12 agreed to sell their brother for coin into Egyptian slavery. 10 of the 12 agreed to cruely lie to their father about Joseph's death. Yet these men are the fathers of the tribes of Israel. Their wickedness did not unelect them from being the chosen family (& people) of God.

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner 21 годину тому

      Great analysis. It is amazing what a little historical analysis reveals.

  • @Weeweewahwah-py7qe
    @Weeweewahwah-py7qe День тому

    "Well who cares" half the christians in america with the most money are literally lobbying and pushing for a world war because of their theory of the rapture. It doesnt matter if its true. What matters if people believe on it and act on it as "true believers" Imagine saying it doesnt matter if its not true that greg killed james' mother. Well it matter if james believes it and takes revenge. Youre an absolute inept moron.

  • @333Paradigm333
    @333Paradigm333 День тому

    Satan is the god of this world, obviosly speaking of the fact that adam an eve forefetited their right to dominion over it after the fall and that is why Satan said to Jesus, when tempting Him, that "all these kindoms are mine and i can give to whosoever I please etc. ✝️

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner День тому

      Good point. I will be talking about this more in a future episode!

    • @333Paradigm333
      @333Paradigm333 21 годину тому

      @thebiblesojourner nice, I was just responding to the video title, I actually didn't get a chance to listen yet, but from the comments looks like I should. God bless

  • @kayfedrick7985
    @kayfedrick7985 День тому

    Excellent job. Thanks. Is there anything that's not debated in Scripture? :). Maranatha.

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner День тому

      Haha, good point. We sinners sure debate some of the strangest things.

  • @AfricanRockFish
    @AfricanRockFish День тому

    I heard an interesting perspective that "the god of this world" in 2 Cor 4 is Moses, evidence by the context of 2 Cor 3 about the glory of God being veiled by Moses so that Israel could not see it. I would need to spend more time in the text and study it out more, but it's a fresh perspective and makes me want to pay closer attention to what the text says, and what I might be assuming going in.

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner День тому

      I have not heard that! I would be quite interested in seeing the full argument for that. Let me applaud you for being inspired and encouraged to look deeply into the Scriptures. Godspeed on that!

  • @KevinGordon-b3f
    @KevinGordon-b3f День тому

    Good discussion! I agree with you on 2 Cor. 4:4. I recently came across someone who thinks "rulers of this age" in 1 Cor. 2:8 refers to demons whereas I think contextually it is referring to Pilate and the Sanhedrin.

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner День тому

      Yes I go back and forth on the “rulers of this age” phrase in 1 Cor 2. Hard to be dogmatic on it, though the point of the passage is fairly clear.

  • @hixadam1
    @hixadam1 День тому

    I really appreciate how you gave the other view. I think the other side should be able to listen to it with very little critique.

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner День тому

      I’m trying to grow in my ability to present the arguments as best as I can. Thanks for the encouragement on that. Blessings!

  • @SirThighmaster
    @SirThighmaster День тому

    Very, very helpful walkthrough. Thank you!

  • @hitman1867
    @hitman1867 День тому

    Q: I’m confused, I was looking up, was Haggai talking about the second temple or third temple…they say, that Haggai is talking about the second temple. I don’t know.

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner День тому

      Good question. When you say, "They" who are you referring to? Haggai is talking about the second temple construction in the initial part (because Israel had stopped building it). But Haggai 2:6-9 can't be referring to the 2nd Temple. The details talk about peace for Israel during that time and the nations streaming to the Temple (which obviously has never happened). As is typical of the prophets, they often talk about present circumstances and then talk about future ones.

  • @danielwarton5343
    @danielwarton5343 День тому

    Thank you for that brother Always great content. I think that Revelation 20:3,8 both speak of Satan’s power to deceive the nations. Once he is bound he has no sway for the millennium. He is no longer the god of the age. As you know I have been looking for a new church and we’ve decided to go to a reformed baptist. Many good things there but their eschatology and hermeneutic isn’t online with what we would agree upon. The one thing I don’t get is that they say Satan is currently bound yet I’m sure they’d hold to him being the prince of the power of the air and the god of this age. How do you think they reconcile that? 😊

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner День тому

      I plan on talking more about that issue next episode, Lord willing. But the short answer is that they would say the binding of Satan ONLY refers to deceiving nations, but individuals and others powers are still in play for Satan. It seems quite selective in my opinion. Glad to hear you have found a new church! I think it’s normal not to agree on everything, but I hope there is some good fellowship to be had with some serious and committed Believers!

    • @danielwarton5343
      @danielwarton5343 День тому

      @ thank you brother. The pastoral care is great and they’re good on the doctrines of grace. Very small church, membership of 14 and about 25 people go each week. Thanks for your thoughts, I can’t see it being consistent. People make nations.

  • @snibbornairb
    @snibbornairb 2 дні тому

    Theos is mentioned 13 times in 2nd Corinthians. Given this fact, I think your first argument about references to Satan would actually be a point in favor of the Yahweh.

    • @snibbornairb
      @snibbornairb 2 дні тому

      Sorry, 25 times? And 4:4 would be the only time not referring to Yahweh.

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner День тому

      Thank you for the word stats. Appreciate that. The reason I don’t think those stats would be as noteworthy is because everyone expects that by nature Christian material will mention God an inordinate amount of times. Similar to how the a military manual might use words like soldier or battle many times because of the topic. Of course the most common referent will be Yahweh due to monotheistic belief. But there is also clear testimony in both OT and NT that there are places it can refer to a non Yahweh entity. The percentage is low given the nature of the Bible, but well attested. So if it were only once in 2 Cor 4:4 that would be expected, or at least statistically consistent.

    • @snibbornairb
      @snibbornairb День тому

      @@thebiblesojourner I appreciate the response. I also appreciate the magnanimity of saying that either interpretation could be correct. I agree with you on that. However, I would say that the weight of the evidence falls on the other side of the scale. That being said, my NASB agrees with you (it's "g" commentary), so there's that. God bless

  • @daveka2011
    @daveka2011 2 дні тому

    Thank you for this discussion. I've never thought that 2 Co. 4:4 was referring to God, but the discussion opened my eyes to how one might think regarding the verse. I still believe, as you prove, that "the god of this world" is referring to Satan.

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner 2 дні тому

      It is a helpful discussion to have. Glad you found it beneficial.

  • @JohnDHernandez
    @JohnDHernandez 2 дні тому

    Oh man this is a late upload! I’m ready to jump in! 😎

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner 2 дні тому

      Yeah, late night viewing on this one!

    • @JohnDHernandez
      @JohnDHernandez День тому

      @@thebiblesojournermy heart was ready to jump in last night but my body said no haha 3am start times catch up to you 😂 But I just finished and I thought the strongest point was how Paul used “age” in his writing. That overview, especially in the Corinthian letters, was very powerful. At the very start of the video I thought one’s view on God’s sovereignty in salvation is going to play a role in how 2 Cor 4:4 is viewed. While Calvinism can potentially alter one’s interpretation of that verse, it isn’t required. Like Calvin said, the historical context can affect an interpretation and having prior theological commitments can result in the conclusion that it is YWHW and not Satan. The Amill and Postmill camp, while Calvinists like yourself, do have to consider that Satan is bound in this current age and thus cannot be the god of this age. It’s not put forward like the soteriological argument because it’s not as strong and many wouldn’t agree with Satan being currently bound but I can see it being used as a positive argument for YWHW within reformed circles because it keeps their system intact. Overall, great analysis! I’ll read the article at a later time but I do appreciate your expertise and professionalism. We can still fight in the parking lot but I’ll just tell them I let you win 😂

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner День тому

      @@JohnDHernandez 🤣If we fight in the parking lot, the only thing I would stand a chance in would be something like chess! Great feedback and thoughts on the episode! And for the record, I think you made a wise choice delaying to watch it. And delayed gratification is so good for the soul! 😜

    • @JohnDHernandez
      @JohnDHernandez День тому

      @ - my chess game is also weak so you got me there too! 😂 Ha! It was only delayed because I was running on fumes but it was a great way to start the morning. Thanks again, brother! God bless and have a Happy Thanksgiving!

  • @greggpurviance7252
    @greggpurviance7252 3 дні тому

    Agree totally. What I've observed for years

  • @biffgordon8468
    @biffgordon8468 4 дні тому

    This just showed up in my YT feed today: ua-cam.com/video/VInkwBWqu2w/v-deo.htmlsi=9C5CbCbQmijgF5kP

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner 4 дні тому

      👀 Would be nice if they provided some sources 😀 Thanks for dropping the link!

  • @greggpurviance7252
    @greggpurviance7252 4 дні тому

    CFNI is more of a mission school. It does do some bible training, but not on a Bible College or Seminary level.

  • @photonjohnny
    @photonjohnny 4 дні тому

    It seems to all boil down to what translators use to the best they can (and led by the Holy Spirit). The more I looked into it, the greater respect I have as translating is not easy, and we need G-d's help. IMHO. I have a NKJV for Study and and a CSB for reading and study. The KJV is always available.

  • @phillipwigintonmusic3434
    @phillipwigintonmusic3434 5 днів тому

    I would be more likely to watch your videos if those with other perspectives were not depicted as “not serious about the scriptures”, “do not love the scriptures”, “who wax nose the scriptures”.

    • @phillipwigintonmusic3434
      @phillipwigintonmusic3434 5 днів тому

      To add another “their house of cards collapses”.

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner 5 днів тому

      Well, if you watch my other videos, I try not to use that kind of language. Alas, I can’t control the phrases used by every individual. But I think that’s probably par for the course on both sides of the aisle eh? Some people are more prone to use disparaging language.

    • @phillipwigintonmusic3434
      @phillipwigintonmusic3434 5 днів тому

      @@thebiblesojourner That is good to hear. I am sure I have been guilty as well.

  • @lucia7546
    @lucia7546 6 днів тому

    The new Covenant in witch the Church is the new Israel of God, New Jerusalem....The true Jews cut at heart ❤️! Jesus is the Son of David, seed of Abraham ruling today from spiritual Israel in heaven! After Jesus sacrifice on the cross once for all.... never again the sacrifice of animals will occur!

  • @lucia7546
    @lucia7546 6 днів тому

    Christ base prophecy Not 🚫 Israel base prophecy! Christian Zionists are delusional!!!!

  • @lucia7546
    @lucia7546 6 днів тому

    Zionism movement!

  • @lucia7546
    @lucia7546 6 днів тому

    Zionism movement!

  • @lucia7546
    @lucia7546 6 днів тому

    From satan!

  • @earlsiebold536
    @earlsiebold536 6 днів тому

    How soon the Bible becomes an idol in the hands of the intellectual class who imagine themselves teachers. The facts are that we have two alternative covenants. The first covenant was a book of rules that were misinterpreted and thus made rule keeping the function we are to place most high. Isaiah 22 talks about how the people were busy offering sacrifices and tithes and completely ignoring God. The same can be said of dispensationalists who think that somehow Jesus' work and ultimate sacrifice is not sufficient unto salvation. So sad that so many have been taken in by the heresy we call dispensationalism.

    • @Christ.is.King2210
      @Christ.is.King2210 4 дні тому

      Can you explain the last part? How exactly do dispensationalists not believe Christ's sacrifice is sufficient for salvation?

    • @earlsiebold536
      @earlsiebold536 4 дні тому

      @@Christ.is.King2210 In the milenial kingdom there will be animal sacrifices offered in a temple made by man according to many dispensationalists.

  • @earlsiebold536
    @earlsiebold536 6 днів тому

    The FINAL sacrifice has been given. It was the atoning death of Jesus Christ on the Cross. He is the Temple and we who are in Him are His Tabernacle. The Temple is not one built by the hands of man. His sacrifice completely sufficient we can not add to it but we certainly can take away from it when we think that there are other sacrifices that bring man to God. What God has offered mankind in Jesus Christ let no man cast aside by thinking there is an alternative. Dispensationalism is a heresy straight from the bowels of Hell. No one who follows it can even claim to be Christian for it denies whole passages of New Testament and it calls Jesus a liar. It is a poorly written theory that justifies Zionism and all of its attendant evils. Even Orthodox Jews reject Jewish nationalism known a Zionism as do Orthodox Christians. Yet here we have a supposedly Christian voice declaring that Jesus Sacrifice was not sufficient or complete and that there must be a third man made temple. What a shame.

  • @RNLWW
    @RNLWW 6 днів тому

    Thank you for addressing this. It’s been disturbing to watch the growing anti-Semitism in Christendom. About 4-5 years ago my son came home from college, an Augustinian So. Baptist school (unknown to us at the time), using “Zionism” as a slur. That was our first exposure to this sentiment. I didn’t like that Tucker gave Rich an opportunity to spread lies, but Tucker opposes any American support of Israel, and in Rich he found a way to dismantle conservative support of Israel.

  • @scionofliberty2967
    @scionofliberty2967 6 днів тому

    "Who cares"? I guess I wouldn't expect programmed moron like yourself to care. List about trying to research. The truth is it there.

  • @koko2bware
    @koko2bware 7 днів тому

    We're they behind the Scofield Bible ? You bet !!

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner 6 днів тому

      I’m genuinely looking for evidence of that claim. Can you point me to a verified historical source of that?

  • @hesicast
    @hesicast 7 днів тому

    Listening to an interview bye Lord Rothschild saying that it was part of their plan well that would make it Zionist no?

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner 7 днів тому

      That would be a very valuable piece of evidence! Is there such an interview?

    • @hesicast
      @hesicast 7 днів тому

      @thebiblesojourner check out Rothschild disturbing interview. It's not the full interview but you can find it. It's not a conspiracy to assume the richest families in the world who happen to be Jewish and Zionists at the same time are behind a lot of these things. They tell you in their books if you read them. They're very proud of what they've accomplished in Israel or around the world. But they don't like it when you say it LOL

  • @rayd1069
    @rayd1069 7 днів тому

    Thanks for the video. There is loads of misinformation out there on the Scofield Bible and Dispensationalism. Most of them based in conspiracy theories and fables. I think people are sighting sources of sources in their accusations without actually reading or hearing what people actually say who hold to a dispensational hermeneutic. They would rather tell us what we believe than actually ask us or have a real conversation with our Bibles open. We need more videos like this! Obviously...based on some of the comments here...

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner 6 днів тому

      Appreciate the encouragement. I have to say I’m a bit surprised by many of the comments! I guess I am quite surprised by how many people have swallowed views without evidence. It’s kind of disheartening.

    • @rayd1069
      @rayd1069 6 днів тому

      @thebiblesojourner I don't mind people critiquing my views and I worship with some who I would call "brothers and sisters" who wouldn't hold to my Dispensational hermeneutic. But, I think for the ones who speak out maliciously against dispensationalism or resort to the "Zionism conspiracy theory", the primary intent IS to be disheartening. I don't really get what the purpose of their anger is other than to attempt to try to "shame" us out of Dispensational thought. It actually has the opposite effect and makes me even more convinced of dispensationalism because most of the arguments I hear don't sound very well thought out. That said, I can understand people being critical about the Scofield bible. There's some areas that I would word a little differently myself. But that could probably be said about every Bible commentary and I still see value in using it as tool for Bible study. One thing I appreciate that the Scofield Bible did was show how the plan of God unfolds all through the Bible and ties the OT and NT together with the theme of Gods Kingdom being fulfilled and His creation restored. It also helped show Israels primary role in this plan, which most of Christianity had unfortunately neglected in previous history. It has been interesting seeing some Christians reactions to dispensationalism. The majority of the accusations seem to be more of a theological hand-wringing that gets way to overblown and leads to far-fetched stories and conspiracy of Jews tampering with the Bible...which sounds more antisemitic than Christian to me. I've also learned some Christians use the term "heretic" pretty loosely...I'm a bit more timid with using that term...

  • @victorkelly8264
    @victorkelly8264 7 днів тому

    You are a political christian not a Spiritual Christian : you talk with- out spiritual depth because inter- iorily you are not crucified to your finite self. If you want to inform people, study the Talmuds & you'll understand the horrors the tal- mudic zionists are committing against women & children in their local genocidal Greater Israel Pro- ject and have intention of doing with their global Greater Israel Project against the Goyim inter- nationally. The talmudics are not the children of Abraham. They are the children of the father of lies, deception(Mossad Motto :"Make War By Deception."), and will die in their sins. Salvific Christianity Is an interior spiritual dimensionig to be one with & in The Eternal Word In- carnate of The Eternal Father With Their Infinite & Eternal Holy Spirit of Unconditional Sacrificial Love & Generosity : foolishness to the gentiles & a stumbling block to the Jews. Let's pray for the 8 billion of Humanity on Earth today that they have the God-Given Wis- dom to be foolish to the gentiles & a stumbling block to the talmud- ic zionist killers before biological demise inevitably in arrival.

  • @bblack8478
    @bblack8478 7 днів тому

    Its not "Jews" funding it.... it was a Rothschild. It makes perfect sense when you aggregate the whole picture of zionism and the zionist project.

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner 7 днів тому

      It may make a good theory, but we need to base our views on facts. Can you direct me to facts on Rothschilds funding the Scofield Bible? I’m happy to change my tune!

    • @bblack8478
      @bblack8478 7 днів тому

      @thebiblesojourner why make footnotes and references in the scripture? Oh to "explain" things. Why change "children of Abraham" to "Israel"..... Jacob was one of many descendents of Abraham. Why call the modern state Israel? It was not a consensus.... they did it on purpose to link the connection that had been planted long ago with help from sources like the Schoffield Reference Bible. The modern Secular state of Israel is in no way shape or form the israelites of the scripture. Not in piety, action or faith, let alone all the other issues.

  • @phartsdust
    @phartsdust 7 днів тому

    China has the most new christians in 2024. They government of China is rewriting the bible ,like Scofield, to fit their agenda. .It's possible you might have drank too much Kool Aid along your way to enlightenment? . I've learned not to argue with Faith. good by .

  • @joncollins7129
    @joncollins7129 7 днів тому

    If you dont hate Judaism, then you aren't a christian. From Your precepts I get perception; Therefore I hate every false way. - Psalm 119:104

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner 4 дні тому

      But even so, you can hate false religious systems while still loving the people and desiring their salvation. That is important.

    • @joncollins7129
      @joncollins7129 4 дні тому

      @thebiblesojourner right. And the best way to do that is to not coddle them in their error, but denounce it and call them out of it.

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner 4 дні тому

      @@joncollins7129 Indeed. However, many confuse denouncing for unkindness. I think Paul's words are apt: "correcting [our] opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will." (2 Tim 2:25-26).

    • @1969cmp
      @1969cmp День тому

      It depends on what you mean by Judaism. Like Christianity, there is Biblical Judaism and then there are variants and even new-age heretical 'Judaism' like Kabalah. What system of faith do you think Jesus was affiliated with when He was growing up. Biblical Judaism, after all, Jesus was a Jew.

    • @joncollins7129
      @joncollins7129 День тому

      @1969cmp there is no such thing as biblical judaism. Judaism is the result of the Pharisees, not Moses.

  • @earlsiebold536
    @earlsiebold536 7 днів тому

    I can't help but notice the severe damage dispensationalism has done to the evangelical, charismatic church. By postponing the Kingdom to some time in the future the urgency of becoming better Christians has become little more than a joke. The idea that Deus ex Machina (rapture) is somehow going not only to happen but it will make all believers safe is so silly as to be nonsensical. If that were not enough the dispensationalists deny the completeness of the sacrifice of Jesus for the redemption of mankind they imagine that the temple God destroyed will somehow be rebuilt. Such utter unbiblical nonsense. I am amazed that any Bible believing Christian would do any more with dispensationalism other than toss it in the trash heap as another heresy that weakened Christianity which all came to the fore at the same time. Darwinism, Marxism, Jehovah witness, Mormanism, and the excuse for Talmudic Judaism we call dispensatioinalism/zionism. They are all evil to the core.

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner 7 днів тому

      Appreciate your opinion, but I think to put dispensationalism on the same level of Darwinism or Marxism is sensationalistic of you. Nobody will really take you seriously if you speak like that. Dispensationalism, after all, was one of the loan bulwarks against 20th century liberalism in the church.

    • @earlsiebold536
      @earlsiebold536 7 днів тому

      @@thebiblesojourner Please refute it with facts. They all came about at the same time and if it weren't for dispesationalism and all its false gospel message there would be no war in the Middle East now. Dispensationalism like neo orthdoxy could be an admission of defeat by the evangelical church or it could simply be a new 'revival' that the evangelical church is so proud of and so yearning. It is a complete repudiation of the Gospel of Jesus and in effect calls Jesus and all the Apostles liars.

  • @rdaleyj1
    @rdaleyj1 7 днів тому

    What do you mean who cares??? Do you have any idea of how many people are completely deceived by schofield's commentaries???

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner 7 днів тому

      Well, apparently you misunderstood. the point is that it has no bearing on whether something is true or not. Obviously different people can do things for different motivations, but that has no bearing on truth or whether something is good. That must be established through Scripture alone.

  • @duiffie
    @duiffie 7 днів тому

    ... how about the Brethren? ... www.presenttruthmag.com/archive/XIV/14-6.htm#Scofield

  • @SeanRhoadesChristopher
    @SeanRhoadesChristopher 7 днів тому

    Mark of the Zionist Beast Biblically what pollutes our land (Nation) are sexual sin, stealing property, and spilling of innocent blood. The Zionist (both Christian & Jewish) do all of this on a regular basis. A tree is known by its fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Zionist murder men, women, children, and steal their property. Christian Zionist believe there must be a third temple built in Jerusalem and are allowing the Zionist Jews the opportunity to do this in order to force Jesus Christ to return on their terms, as if they can dictate to the Almighty what his schedule should be. They are doing this despite Jesus’ claim that he himself and all those in obedience to him are the Third Temple under construction in Heaven. This heretical view also discourage Jews from accepting the words of the Prophet like unto Moses (Jesus Christ Matthew ch5) and opt for the Law of Moses which actually commands them to kill Muslims, Christians, Hindus, and any non-Moses Law observer. Thus, both groups are trying to manipulate the other in an effort to pit them against the Almighty. Zionist Jews are also trying to dictate to the Almighty that they, as a people, are the Messiah, and so they are using human might to try and force the Almighty to accept them as clean, when in fact they are outcast and covered in tsâra‛ath aka leprosy. If these Jewish Zionist, as a group are the Messiah, then Biblically speaking, all the other nations, as prophesied, are to be made subject to them. So we can be sure, that any relationship Zionist Jews have with any Nation, is only a narcissistic utilitarian one, that can only last as long as that Nation is useful to accomplish their aim. We can also be sure that passive aggressive levers are installed in an effort to cut ties as soon as that need is no longer deemed necessary. This plot is actually prophesied to happen and fail, in the book of Daniel and the Revelation to Jesus Christ.

  • @SeanRhoadesChristopher
    @SeanRhoadesChristopher 7 днів тому

    Who is Israel? Is Israel determined by DNA alone, or by character & behavior shaped by the LORD’s statutes & judgments? “Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:” (Romans 9.6, KJV) “Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.” (Matthew 21.42-44, KJV) “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.” (Matthew 7:15-20, KJV) “(22.20) And a stranger shalt thou not wrong, neither shalt thou oppress him; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.” (Exodus 22.21, JPS) “(23.8) Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite, for he is thy brother; thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian, because thou wast a stranger in his land. (23.9) The children of the third generation that are born unto them may enter into the assembly of the LORD.” (Deuteronomy 23.7-8, JPS) “Thou shalt not covetᴴ²⁵³⁰ thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covetᴴ²⁵³⁰ thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.” (Exodus 20.17, KJV) H2530 (Strong) ‎חָמַד châmad khaw-mad' A primitive root; to delight in: - beauty, greatly beloved, covet, delectable thing, ( X great) delight, desire, goodly, lust, (be) pleasant (thing), precious (thing). “Thou shalt not bear falseᴴ⁸²⁶⁷ witness against thy neighbour.” (Exodus 20.16, KJV) H8267 (Strong) ‎שֶׁקֶר sheqer sheh'-ker From H8266; an untruth; by implication a sham (often adverbially): - without a cause, deceit (-ful), false (-hood, -ly), feignedly, liar, + lie, lying, vain (thing), wrongfully. “Thou shalt not stealᴴ¹⁵⁸⁹ (get by stealth.)” (Exodus 20.15, KJV) H1589 (Strong) ‎גָּנַב gânab gaw-nab' A primitive root; to thieve (literally or figuratively); by implication to deceive: - carry away, X indeed, secretly bring, steal (away), get by stealth. “Thou shalt not kill.ᴴ⁷⁵²³” (Exodus 20.13, KJV+) H7523 (Strong) ‎רָצַח râtsach raw-tsakh' A primitive root; properly to dash in pieces, that is, kill (a human being), especially to murder: - put to death, kill, (man-) slay (-er), murder (-er). Total KJV occurrences: 47 “And the officers shall speak unto the people, saying, What man is there that hath built a new house, and hath not dedicated it? let him go and return to his house, lest he die in the battle, and another man dedicate it. And what man is he that hath planted a vineyard, and hath not yet eaten of it? let him also go and return unto his house, lest he die in the battle, and another man eat of it. And what man is there that hath betrothed a wife, and hath not taken her? let him go and return unto his house, lest he die in the battle, and another man take her. And the officers shall speak further unto the people, and they shall say, What man is there that is fearful and fainthearted? let him go and return unto his house, lest his brethren's heart faint as well as his heart.” (Deuteronomy 20.5-8, KJV) “When thou shalt besiege a city a long time, in making war against it to take it, thou shalt not destroy the trees thereof by forcing an axe against them: for thou mayest eat of them, and thou shalt not cut them down (for the tree of the field is man's life) to employ them in the siege: Only the trees which thou knowest that they be not trees for meat, thou shalt destroy and cut them down; and thou shalt build bulwarks against the city that maketh war with thee, until it be subdued.” (Deuteronomy 20.19-20, KJV) “Cursed be he that removeth his neighbour's landmark. And all the people shall say: Amen.” (Deuteronomy 27.17, JPS) ¶ “Cursed be anyone who strikes down a neighbor in secret.” All the people shall say, “Amen!” ¶ “Cursed be anyone who takes a bribe to shed innocent blood.” All the people shall say, “Amen!” ¶ “Cursed be anyone who does not uphold the words of this law by observing them.” All the people shall say, “Amen!” (Deuteronomy 27.24-26 NRSV) Conclusion: Zionist ≠ Israel

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner 7 днів тому

      I am not sure how this relates to the original video though? 🤔

    • @gaylenhalbert4391
      @gaylenhalbert4391 7 днів тому

      Good comment. Thank you.

    • @SeanRhoadesChristopher
      @SeanRhoadesChristopher 7 днів тому

      @ “Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to listen to my message. You are the children of your father, the Devil, and you want to follow your father's desires. From the very beginning he was a murderer and has never been on the side of truth, because there is no truth in him. When he tells a lie, he is only doing what is natural to him, because he is a liar and the father of all lies. But I tell the truth, and that is why you do not believe me. Which one of you can prove that I am guilty of sin? If I tell the truth, then why do you not believe me? He who comes from God listens to God's words. You, however, are not from God, and that is why you will not listen."” (John 8:43-47, GNB) “Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.” (Acts 7:51, KJV) My argument uses both the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament showing Zionism, as we see it today to be a heretical teaching, period full stop! We are all obligated to speak up against it, both Christians, by the commandments of Christ, and the book of Proverbs are enough to prompt any practicing Jew and Christian to speak up against it. You are in favor of rotten fruit, the tree you are attached to will be cut down.

    • @1969cmp
      @1969cmp День тому

      King David was a Zionist, so was Moses and Abraham. 🙂

    • @SeanRhoadesChristopher
      @SeanRhoadesChristopher День тому

      @@1969cmp the difference is that they all (for the most part) obeyed the LORD, unlike the criminals in the land of Canaan today calling themselves Zionist.

  • @yuppp457
    @yuppp457 7 днів тому

    oh ok so a guy named rothschild said it’s not true no need to look into it any further

  • @mikejames303
    @mikejames303 7 днів тому

    Christian zionism is a heresy, there aren't two tiers of salvation . God's Chosen People are those who follow Christ, not those who reject him. To claim that the Holy Land belongs to the Jews, or that the Old Covenant is still in place, isn't Christian.

  • @dfwtransport2420
    @dfwtransport2420 7 днів тому

    Zionist are the synagogue of Satan

  • @silwan6784
    @silwan6784 7 днів тому

    You are a cop-out. The Rothchilds are the richest family in the world. They are The Zionist family and bankrolled the creation of Israel. You should just cover your ears and eyes, but don't spout nonsense

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner 7 днів тому

      What was wrong with the video specifically? There was one particular Rothschilds that helped finance the state of Israel, but I did not ever dispute that. Did Rothschilds fund Scofield? I would just encourage you to look into history a little more than through UA-cam. Although I’m flattered to find you at my channel, the history books are much more informative on these things.

    • @silwan6784
      @silwan6784 7 днів тому

      @@thebiblesojourner If Zionists bankrolled the Scofield I would be very wary as they are a cancer to society. If you walk in Jerusalem with priestly garb they spit on you or in your path. The Zionists are using Christianity to fund Genocide.

    • @silwan6784
      @silwan6784 6 днів тому

      @@thebiblesojourner Do you acknowledge that the Jews in the time of Jesus embraced Jesus or plotted to kill him? Do you think that the Jews and Zionists especially, will accept Jesus with open arms when he returns or, plot to kill him? We all know the answer. Try reading the Talmud and see how much Jews loves you. Otherwise, just cover your ears and eyes and be a cop-out.

  • @proof138
    @proof138 7 днів тому

    R u this foolish?! he said she said..... the fact of the matter is that christian-zionism exists! christians are the biggest dupes to believe that the nation state so called "israel" is NOT the israel of the bible. I bet U dont even know who or what israel is or represents, do u?

  • @armandoramirez2578
    @armandoramirez2578 7 днів тому

    How long until this clown throws out the "antisemitic" card.

  • @victorbaltov1808
    @victorbaltov1808 7 днів тому

    In the early 1830s, Charles Spurgeon totally debunked John Nelson Darby's "dispensationalism" gospel as "fake news" -- nothing but "Little League Chatter" for the gullible fearful of the Truth of Jesus Christ. Scofield was another Rothschild agent credited with the "fake news" Scofield Reference Bible. Read some Spurgeon as an antidote to "fake news."

    • @thebiblesojourner
      @thebiblesojourner 7 днів тому

      I do love me some Spurgeon! But what are you referring to when you say he debunked Darby and dispensationalism? Scofield and Darby had some different views on things, so I’m curious which “form” of dispensationalism was debunked by Spurgeon and where?