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Thank you! :) I guess you can say that. To put it simple: Almost the same oscillators and filters (I believe the 08 sounds a bit more raw, Rev2 a bit more refined). The Rev2 adds sub oscillators, FX and a refined interface.

I know! But the DX7 is already colored, so you don't need to put in the time. The DX7 sounds full and "right" to me, FM8 don't. Dexed VST and Korg Opsix (native and hardware) sound right to me as well, so it's not a software vs. hardware or analog vs. digital kind of thing.

Thank you! :) You would need more coloring than a simple lpf to get the FM8 to sound similar, but not much. You can get very far in software today. The free Dexed VST is almost identical, but I'm still keeping my DX7.

Thank you! I switch all the synths except the polysynth which is Repro-5 all the time (used the crossfader in Ableton). This shows that it doesn't make a big difference in the mix, but when you solo the tracks (especially the bass) there's a big difference in my opinion.

@@eivindengedal9830 ok yes i noticed that similar thing myself.. bunch of tracks together sounds close.. start stripping it back and sounds different.. especially the bass.. exactly.. Have u played with any of the "tweaks" if u still have ur pro 1 to make it sound closer? I also know there is the envelope length dial i think my hardware was towards the "longer" end

Totally different beast. Crazy to think that they are only 3 years apart. M1 has 4 megs of samples, DW has a couple of bytes. M1 has a non resonant digital filter, DW has an analog resonant filter. M1 has a pretty advanced sequencer, velocity, aftertouch, miltitimbral... I could go on forever.

@@eivindengedal9830 Yeah, please go on for Eva. I never had a DW. Wish for one, though. In these 8ties a lot was happening. Very fast. After that mainly refinement. Bigger memory. With that better samples.

Thank you! Not much in it. Roland Cloud is a little more midrangey and forward sounding.

No. Sorry! I don't subscribe to the Roland Cloud anymore.

@@eivindengedal9830 Oh, I can just send you my software

Glad you like it! :)

Hi! Most of these patches are made from scratch. I have many VSTs, but none of them reminds me of this synth.

Yes. Fizzy and on the edge of shrill sometimes. It's not exactly all sweet spot. It takes some time to get to know. That PWM-sound is great, though. And when you get the top end right it shines.

@@eivindengedal9830 The Prophet '08 certainly can sound great... it was revolutionary for its price and polyphony when it was launched in 2008. I bought one straight away and kept it for more than a decade, so I'm sure that says something!

@@lundsweden I love it! Sold it, but I want to own one again. I have been putting it side by side with a Prophet 6, and I chose the 08 over it several times.

I agree! The Pro1 was sold. I still have Repro.

I know! I tried FM8 again recently, and it was a waste of time. Flat, dull and plasticky as you say. The DX7 sounds 3D, organic and warm (how can a digital synth sound warm??!).

Back when I made the video, there were few presets that came with Dexed. At least with the version I had at the time. I've seen that there is a huge bundle of sounds coming with the recent versions. I have stated that I didn't make these presets my self, since I don't enjoy programming the DX7 at all, but I have spent a lot of time treasure troving presets. These are some of my personal favorites. I use some more of the famous factory presets in my DX7 vs FM8 video.

It is 89 presets now. :)

@@eivindengedal9830 Price? Love your presets. Some of the best I've heard.

@@brucebaker3205 Thank you! :) There is a link to the store in the description.

@@eivindengedal9830 I just purchased this sound set. I was able to load it into banks 1 and 2, but not 3 and 4. Are those banks not accessible for your presets? Is this a Rev2 issue or something that I can fix? Thanks.

@@brucebaker3205 The presets were made on a Prophet 08, and it only has two banks (A and B). That's why you can't access bank 3 and 4. I can only fix this if I get my hands on a Rev2. Sorry!

Nice to hear! Thank you. :)

That's strange. Hope you get it to work soon. Dexed is free, so you should take it for a spin if you haven't already. :)

The old 80s converters have a certain sound, though. It's the same with 80s drum machines and samplers like the E-mu SP 1200. Modern digital synths are more like VSTs, but they probably put more into the software than with VSTs. They are also not reliant on a spesific OS, and does not need to be updated regularly.

@@eivindengedal9830 oh I don't know anything about the convertor and the sonic difference it makes!

I agree! It's got a fuller sound. I just bought the Softube Model 84. It's got that hardware-like sound, but you don't need to bother with the Roland Cloud subscription and all the problems that comes with it. The 106 sounds a little different than the 60, though. Anyway, I think they both fill the Juno-role well.

I haven't tried the Arturia DX7, but Dexed is a free plug-in that really is identical to the DX7. Hear for yourself: ua-cam.com/video/wbMzttE-jys/v-deo.html

I guess I would choose the DW8000, but I haven't tried it. The DW8000 has a lot more features, but I have read that some people prefer the high end of the DW6000. My impression is that the DW8000 is a more complete package and have a more balanced sound, and the DW6000 has more character. Don't take my word for it, though. I haven't tried the DW8000.

@@eivindengedal9830 thanks!

Thank you!

I think it's easier to mix analog synths. I feel that they take up less room in the mix. The newer vst's are much better, though, and you can carve out problematic frequences on the vst's.

I agree! Still on the fence about selling the pro-1, though. I probably will.

@@eivindengedal9830 I can understand that. It is a great machine, but lately I've found that making it fit into my mixes has been difficult, and with Repro I can adjust parameters after I've recorded something. I sampled a bunch of sounds from the Pro1 before trading it and got a bunch of Eurorack gear for it.

@@zechs5079 Sounds like a wise decision!

Thank you very much!

Closer than I thought too. I didn't use a lot of time to tweak either.

Thank you! Check out my Soundcloud-page for the complete song in wav-format: soundcloud.com/eivind-engedal/testarossa-behringer-pro-1

Hi! If you have been to my Soundcloud link, you have seen all the music i have on-line. The thing at 4:30 is just me improvising. Maybe it's time to make a track out of that riff?

@@eivindengedal9830 Thanks for the answer. Yeah this riff is pretty cool !

I really like it, it remembers me my childhood, I don't know...it's awesome,

@@eivindengedal9830 the thing after feets well, you already have a song if you repeat these 2 things, eh eh