i know the story with this band bc they're from my town. ryan works at a venue now and is so depressed, gets super upset and strange if you bring up 12 rods arround him. he thinks hes a musical failure and hearing about what could've been. 12 rods is probably the most overlooked band ever in my opinion, like come on people praise carseat head rest for having lyrics about queer issues in 2010, ts came out in 2000 and nobody cares. so sad.