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@@robmcdaniel2452 you know, I saw that video back when it came out like four months ago I guess according to the date on there and I thought to myself wouldn’t it be a kick in the head if they got Roger Linn to come in and work on the new MPC. And I thought that would be freaking amazing and if that happens that they integrate with Roger’s ideas and his instrument into a new AKAI Force / MPC plus throw some new features and functionality in there. As far as hardware wise they will destroy the rest of the market. And I am 100% here for it let’s go Akai!!!

@@Cap10NRGMusic winter NAAM might be where we see something?

@robmcdaniel2452 that’s a good point! I just ordered my ticket, online anyway I’m gonna see if I can swing get there in real life this year. Unfortunately, it’s a personal expense, I’d have to approve it with my business partner, a.k.a. my wife, 😉

I know I kinda just love speculating! I will absolutely be on the pre-oral list for that device, though if that actually happens or when that happens. I think it’s a matter of when I’ve already contacted my rep and told him to keep his eyes open and if he has anything, put me on the list lol. I mean for all I know it’s a paperweight.

So am I hearing - you love it and can’t wait to buy one for yourself 🤣😂🤣😂 It’s not for everyone, and they take time to “learn” they sound cool if you take your time and learn it.

@@Cap10NRGMusic Haha I actually did (seriously!) consider one but took my foot of my GAS pedal, by re-listening if it really would add something. Guess I stick to cycles, samples, microfreak and cosmos and terra to do the ambient bit (and some handpans and other non-electronic instruments ;) But hey can imagine it would be a welcome addition for someone...

@LemniscatoLemniscato I’m in really it’s just a bank of sounds… Sounds being pushed through filters. I was actually thinking of building a library for the MPC to do ambient music with.

@@Cap10NRGMusic Sounds like a cunning plan! I'm not familiar to the MPC (actually: too much menu aka complicated workflow diving for my maggot brain I am afraid) but sort of get the idea ;)

Oh there, we go! I saw it popped by on my feed and then looked into it more and I was like who was that guy? Why did he not save that video usually save all the videos that I think are important for that type of things I can add them as a link.

@@Cap10NRGMusic it was just a short though

@mathieupe666 yep I added you as the person who reminded me of where the video was and him as a confirmation/source to the comments. Thank you for that. I appreciate it.

There’s another guy who had found a way to 2 more giga ram to the force. Not sure I can’t remember if he removed the rim that was there and replaced it or just add it on but the end result that he had four gig of ram, just like the MPCXSE or the Akai 61 key MPC. Pretty cool, what he did not say was how the operating system handled it if it was able to truly load it up with samples and such or not.

@@crazzylee hehe - you know , flight reference

That is a really good point!

Well, I can vibe with that! And if that is the case, I’m happy to do another video speculating that there will be more or another force or maybe the force will be returning in some other form… Maybe they have a whole new operating system that they getting ready to release for it I had heard at one point That they were rewriting the operating system to fix all of the issues that they had… And had brought some new developer on. I forget his name, but this guy was allegedly a force guru as far as the development of the force software. And I really hope that this is just a, temporary marketing ploy, something to get people talking about it. Off to hit up Ave McCree, he and I are friends and he’s pretty tied in with AKAI so maybe he can shed some light on the situation.

@@TeleporterM11 hey @Akai I’m down if you want testers!!

Hahaha - I’m hoping the self destruct is a joke 🤣😂. That’ll be one way to get people to buy some new gear lol

According to Sweetwater there are no more coming in Akai told them it is discontinued as of September. This isn’t them saying it’s canceled. They’re telling me Akai said it is canceled. If you go to the Akai website and try to order one you cannot, you could about a month ago that’s the last time I tried to order there just to see what would happen. I’ve been trying to follow this to see what was gonna happen since the MPC 3 OS was announced. I had a feeling, and I’ve been in the industry long enough to know that my feelings are usually pretty accurate. So I kept checking the website to see if anything had changed, I took a break and during that time it changed. If you think this is fake news, look into it… let me know what you find.

@@gossamyr if there were a force keys omg - I’m so in!!! :) FORCE toaster though - hmm probably not as interested, but I do like toast with a little butter and jam mmmmm :)

@@liothomasart yeah I hear ya. Seems like the writing was on the wall in a way but I’m hoping for good things. We’ll see.

@@scottfrost317 that’s why we have vintage gear that costs 10x its original price ;)

@@joman66 it might not be dead discontinued maybe it’s in its cocoon stage and gonna bust out the other end as a butterfly… crossing my fingers

Probably they will integrate both OS'es. MPC3.0 is already almost Force. Having two separate OSes is costly.

Interesting since akai recently made a controller for ableton

@@tylergates4075 I was disappointed hearing it. I think it was about the clip launching being Abletons idea.

@@Jamesvirgildnb yeah I hear what you’re saying but I kind of feel like once you drop something like that into the ecosphere…They kind of become “borrowable” I mean - Cuba’s was the first DAW and they technically own the patent to VST, yet everyone can and does use them and create them. I know originally it was supposed to be an Ableton compatible device but I also know I don’t use Ableton. ;) I guess we’ll probably not know anytime soon.

Seems far fetched: Bitwig Studio have not been sued also they litterally based upon the same cancept. even Logic (eMagic/Apple) implemented clip launching thing. And even if the Copyright claim was meant for hardware implemebtation of the concept: Force did hit the market as the first hardware standalone clip launching device. How would ableton sue for something they did only way later down the line? Did akay runaway with their idea? If so : How come there was no breaking news about a lawsuit all that time? No no. Highly unlikely. But I might be wrong.

@@mathieupe666 I hope your right and it is just a coincidence that akai took force off the market as soon as Ableton dropped a standalone and it wasn't cause they are worried about a lawsuit. I love the force

@@abstractoable yes, it is - same everything except the bios and that can be updates…

@@synthsamuraiproductions hey SS WHATS up my man! I know you love the MPC, wink wink lol. You’ve been trying to pawn that thing off on somebody. I’m just kidding around. Man, the MPC and the force are very similar devices in a lot of ways and with the new operating system the MPC is even more like the force, I don’t know what they’re gonna do but they did officially drop the current version from production… There is speculation that there is a new unit in production or maybe in development rather I should say coming to production. Though no specs or timeframe is known. If I were to guess, I would say probably June 20 25 possibly April 20 25. We will see a new force or what might be called something else maybe like I said in another message the MPC - F special edition or something where they’ll take the Akai Force body make a few modifications. Bigger screen may be better processing more ram maybe some additional I/O and bring that to the table and flatline Ableton and native instruments’ attempt at the market. if anyone can do it, it is Akai! It’s crazy how much I like their equipment these days, and I didn’t even realize it. They just kind of snuck in under the radar and one device at a time they just kind of propagated.

@@Cap10NRGMusic Maybe we’ll see new details at NAMM

@@jr4times730 I kind of think it was ahead of its time though because when you look at the way that Ableton is going with their new Ableton push, they’re trying to do what Akai is doing. Makes you wonder. I have a feeling that if they try again with a new device, they might be able to make that happen my opinion just a thought

Not the case

Yeah - I mean I personally think their touch screen IS pretty good (I mean, it's no iPad but, compared to some of the other keyboard touch screens - I mean yikes have you tried some of them? Some of them are a crime against humanity and an exercise in frustation). They could absolutely improve what they have though - and digitizers have gotten better since the release of the original unit. I mean hey I would not object to a stylus ala'Apple Pencit or Samsung Pen - those would improve the touch screen accuracy 100s of times over what we have now... (Support for fingers, and a stylus) and they could charge $100 for it - we all know Akai likes money... ;)

Hey there - thanks for the question. I use OBS and have a green screen. They are a bit tricky to get working well, but with a few ringlights properly placed, I have been able to get good results. Maybe I will do a video on it if you wan to see it but there are a lot of videos out there showing how to get this to work pretty well... The even cooler part is that you can use that effect of other things... LIke I have a green screen for my desktop so I can have the synths show up in a garden or in space or whatever... :D Green screens are pretty inexpensive - the one I use on my desk is literally something I got for $3 at 5 below...

@@Cap10NRGMusic I'm right by a five below but haven't been in...what am I looking for? I've seen there are chair frame ones, is it like that or like a frame mount?

I think you are right - probably an upgraded amount of ram, better internal storage, faster processor - maybe finally get 16 instruments working at once (that would be my hope) and if they threw a few more midi ports and audio ports on there to bring it more inline with the MPC X Pro I would be stoked!! Hey Akai if you make, I WILL buy it!

I hear you - as I understand it Ableton was supposed to be in on that project and I think they pulled out of it somewhat - not 100% sure of the details, but if I were to guess - they decided that they didn't want to "give that much away"... I could be wrong that is def speculation, but... I mean if I owned "the pie" (the pie being Ableton) would I want the best controller to be someone elses? Probably not... Just a guess though

SAME - and if that is the case (and I feel it in my gut that it is) I think it is going to be the device to crush everything else.... I mean - they really are in the BEST position to release a genre redefining device. Who better to take all the knowledge behind these beat making groove boxes and drop a nuke on the rest of the industry than AKAI???

@@Cap10NRGMusic I read on the internet that they are planning making small MPC, similar in concept to Ableton Move. If it could also be used as additional control surface for MPC, to transform it into Force (or at least providing force-like step sequencer), I am sold :)

I agree! It seems unlikely that they wouldn't have something in the works. I mean even though these devices are similar, I feel like the users are not the same... I mean I use both, but it's funny - I don't make the same kind of music on both... (stringe but true)

Hope so because I was literally just about to buy one 😂😂😂😂

That depends on sales, i think the force underperformed, and if so then why would akai bother with a follow up now that the mpc Line has ironed out the kinks and have a huge market share

I hear what you are saying, but I think the issue there is that people do not like change. Our brains are hardwired to hate change - so telling folks that NOW this device is a complete studio is a BIG change. But in time everyone will get used to it - it is REALLY NICE in my opinion, and I have been on this for a while. Personally - I prefer what we have now vs what was there before. The old OS was not visual and not "FUN" to use. It did not make me want to experiment - it was kind of a get what you gotta get done and get out experience for me... So useing this version and feeling like touching things and seeing what I can do with it is HUGE.... I give it a solid 9 - and I am hoping AKAI finishes this thing off and give me a chance to give the the 10.

Actually most people are happy with the new software.

@palimo3653 agreed! I think it’s dope. I think it’s really really good. Way more user-friendly. I remember getting my first MPC and looking at the screens and just being like what the heck is going on how do I even use this thing I had to watch videos to even understand what I was doing. I popped the new operating system in, and it just makes sense in my opinion

I could kind of see the MPC "taking over" and maybe making an MPC that "IS" the force. The capabilities have really started to overlap. I think am MPC with more pads (64 pads) would be amazing we are just about there new. I could see them making an MPC-F Edition or something like that ... More power more storage, maybe a bigger screen and more ports...

I disagree about them being redundant. The MPC 3 firmware is not clip based workflow. It's the same MPC workflow with access to the force arranger. You still have to deal with that terrible song mode for doing basic things like disabling sounds in the middle of your performances. They should have just did away with the MPC workflow and went full on clip mode. It just makes sense for the features that they added. The Force is and was on par with ableton push. It is more push than the actual push. It's the device that ableton users wanted, but it's got alot of things that need work to make it perfect. Midi is an after thought and it's just terrible, hell they didn't even bother to add midi cc like every performing artist needs to be able to use external devices. There are terrible things wrong with the Force arranger that they never addressed. People who have tried to setup large sets with it understand immediately the real problems with it. If they did discontinue it I understand the why. Bad launch and terrible life span with nothing but constant updates to fix the things that they didn't get right. I know I am never going to buy an mpc I'm done. If they release a force 2 I am going to wait to see what they fixed first. I just don't want to go through what I did with this machine. Otherwise I am looking for an alternative machine to use as a creation tool. I do not like the push 3 there's just too much menu diving in 2024... it should have been touch screen to eliminate all that diving. It should have been better than the force. MPE is gimmicky and that's all the worked on. They added the push 2 with fixes and a few new buttons and called it a thing.

I know, man it’s very upsetting in a lot of ways! I understand the overlap between the MPC and Force, but I kind of saw that as a strengthen away like that they were the same but different. Personally as a person who does house in techno type music versus hip-hop, I appreciate the extra pads. I still hope there might be a chance that we get MPC three running on the FORCE… That would close the gap

@@Cap10NRGMusic when the first MPC 3 beta came out they said "we haven't forgotten about the Force" or something like that, so I think a lot of us were expecting convergence, so the discontinuation came as a surprise but doesn't make me hopeful. Best outcome is what you said: a new Force II with the software coming to the original too. Next best would be for them to support a proper grid controller on MPC (e.g. MPC with APC64 and all the modes of the Force properly supported).

Fingers crossed over here! I mean I am really hoping to get his video and all these reponses in front of Akai... So please feel free to drop thoughts here.

Oh yeha man - I play mine all the time now... It feels good and and the acoustic nature makes it quicker to practice with than my Ibanez. Thanks for the comment! Sub if you want more content like this (if you haven't already)

Very cool! Linux is a great OS and I really wish it had more support for audio production. The memory management and light weight on the processor vs windows would make it an absolute win!!

To be honest, I’m not sure what they did. I know the end result sounds amazing, I think that it’s software-based. It wouldn’t be the first time the JP 8000 was emulated with software. I can’t remember the name of the synthesizer that was available for the iPad. I think it was the Sunrizer synthesizer or something like that, which did an amazing job of emulating the JP 8000. Speaking of the JP 8000 by the way, apparently Behringer just decided to release a MIDI version eliminating the need for the midi to USB converter box. I don’t know when it’ll be on store shelves, but it just got announced two days ago sorry not having a better answer on that.

@@Cap10NRGMusic Thank you, you have given more than enough information, of course I have seen many VST plugins with JP8000 emulation or its famous SuperSaw sound, but of course I am hearing about Sunrizer for the first time, but I will watch it with pleasure), I have a JP8000 brought from Japan, I will wait for vacation to pick it up from Vladivostok and I will shoot a small review in the near future of the JP8000 together with the JT4000, but for now I have XP50, a cool synthesizer)

hey there, thanks for the comment. Which interface would you like to see the keyboard itself? This was just a sound tour so it wasn’t like a check the keyboard out you know? I figured there were a bunch of those already up on the Internet at the time of publishing this. but if it’s something you want to see, let me know

It’s actually on a RODE microphone arm.

I actually have some of that going on in another video. The SEQ track is track locked, if that makes sense what I mean by that is if you want to use it as a controller so you can sequence the ambience zero with it fully as in play the keys from the ST and hear the Amb0 you would need to re-map the AMB0 to match the instruments on the ST however, I haven’t done that. I programmed the sequences on each individual device and then used the ST to provide Clock and start/stop. I can show you how to remap the synthesizers on the AMB0 but I think that kind of defeats the purpose… Personally, it’s a fun device to use so learning to use it from itself and within its capabilities is kind of neat and expands your gear options rather than turning it into just a tone generator and losing out on the sound generation capabilities of the ST. if you really want to pursue something like that, I would suggest getting yourself a sonic where SMPLTREK these devices can be found used for pretty reasonable, or you can buy a brand new one your choice… But there are a real cool device with a lot of capabilities very Swiss Army knife device vibes. By that I am saying you can use it as a sequencer it’s also a sampler and a recorder. It can provide clock and a bunch of other capabilities so you could use it to sequence the AMB, while at the same time sending clock to the ST, and still adding other capabilities to your set up without taking away features. Does that make sense? I can show you a video if you want, just let me know what you’re thinking.

Cool well this movie that came from! Thanks for checking out the video. Hopefully you’ll subscribe. I have more videos for the AMB and more to come! Have an awesome day

You are correct!

Thank you very much I’m glad to help you out! As far as editor software, currently anything that is available y it s too old to be used in modern operating systems. I am, however, looking into writing a new editor that would run on modern and future operating system. Possibly in Java or JavaScript. I will let you know how this progresses.

Oh, I love gadget that’s one of my favorite music making apps for the iPad! If you have any questions hit me up I’m happy to help you out. I hope you like it and if you do buy that controller it’s a good choice.

@@Cap10NRGMusic Thank you for your answer and your recommendation. I am all new to music making and don't know anything about music theory etc. So I think I have a long way to go… but playing around with Gadget was fun.

@@Teeum5 honestly I think we all have a lot to learn about music all the time there’s no end to learning in my opinion. But yeah hang out if you want. Let me know what I can help you with and hit me up. If you have any questions I’m happy to try and help you out anytime. Have an awesome weekend, talk to you soon! Don’t forget to like and subscribe if you would I would really appreciate it if you haven’t already that is…