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I was curious what SATA chip(s) the D4-320 used on the back-plane and I was really pleased to find this video that went over this. I noticed the T6-423 NAS I inherited had a ASM1166 for its back-plane and was considering whether it could be connected directly to the PCIE of a different motherboard. If that works, was considering buying the D6-320 (assuming the same backplane) and replacing the USB "mother board" with a PCIEx4 extension cable to remove USB from the equation. I was also curious about the cheaper D4-320, but thanks to this video, I can see it has a completely different set-up with USB running directly over the PCIEx4 connector. I also now wonder if my assumption that the D4-320 would have the same backplane as the T6-423 is wrong, and if its backplane is closer to this one. Regardless, thank for this very informative video.

8:19 - I spent a few seconds wondering what "Kua" was before realizing you meant Core. I feel really dumb 🤣 Great video. I got this recommendation right when I was considering buying the enclosure since it was cheap and I felt like rolling the dice.

Can anyone confirm if the 2 bay version uses the same hardware as discussed in the video? D2-320

I recently bought an ORICO 2-disk bay to hook it on a RPI5 OMV7 and faced a nasty issue. Both drives show with same serial number and it's hard to run S.M.A.R.T on both. There are two drives recognized, but the smartctl doesn't work well. After I execute smartctl on dev/sda, I then need to execute it twice on dev/sdb, because the first execution will still display the drive in dev/sda. It's quite annoying because I constantly get error notifications. In windows, when I try to check the S.M.A.R.T with aida64, only one disk shows there. I guess that's because of the poor implementation of SATA to USB interface.

great video. this is exactly what i want to do.

Just to add a data point - I use the D6 model with a few of my servers to add 6 SSD's with ceph. The access patterns with ceph are very different from ZFS, but I have found it to be quite reliable, with no real bandwidth issues over my 10 GbE network. Ceph isn't likely to be accessing all the drives at the same time on any one machine unless your IO Ops are quite high.

Solid video.

nice

I too am obsessive about collecting Linux ISOs

YEA! Thank you for a clear and specific explanation of the differences and limitations. It is much as I would have guessed but wow is it hard to get a foothold amongst all the sales and performance claims. I have been reading specs and considering USB SATA enclosures for weeks but they don't make claims or components easy to compare.

I am using a hp prodesk g4 400 mini. I am running macOS aka hackintosh on it.

USB4/Thunderbolt (20/40/80 Mb/s) connections between the host and DAS will eliminate some of the bandwidth concerns, but the technology still seems to be in some flux. I would guess USB4/TB cable and connector quality will be a fairly big deal. Another simpler cheaper technology that's here now (at least on the host side) is oculink. A number of mini PC manufacturers like Minisforum already include oculink ports, and you can readily add one with a spare M.2 NVMe slot. Inexpensive eGPU docks with oculink support are common now, but I haven't found any DAS storage boxes with one yet. Has anyone else seen one?

Expensive collection of legally acquired Linux ISOs. lol. 🤣

Comparatively the D8 Hybrid has four M.2 slots in addition to four 3.5" drive slots. It present those M.2 NVMe drives poorly though, ZFS did not like. I had picked it up for relatively cheap so it wasn't too big of a disappointment. I expected as much though honestly. Would love a more technical explanation as to how and why.

Qnap TL-D400s, but its way to expensive. Is there any cheaper 'clones' of this?

Great video. I appreciate your detail sir

I have the SER 8 mini pc. I bought this with 4 x 4 TB Seagate Ironwolf drives. Had to return them all as the USB kept disconnecting every few seconds making it completely unusable.

Excellent review, man. Thanks! I especially liked how you analyzed all the ports and their capabilities and ways to mod them for different uses. Your review covered all the things I would care about when picking a new home server platform. Thanks and keep up the great work!

Great video, thank you for your work

Where are you getting this enclosure for $190?? Is this USD?

Legally acquired Linux ISOs, yeah that’s what I use my NAS for too! 🤣

JST connector is more "hardy" and less prone to disconnect. Belt and braces. Standard fan connector would certainly be more convenient, though.

With the back plain seems to just be a standard pcie, can it be connected to a riser to a pcie slot of a pc to act like a jbod?

The QNAP TR-004 has RAID and is likely a decent option for such a setup depending on your planned approach of such a setup. I have the TerraMaster D8 Hybrid (same case as shown here) with 4 SATA bays and 4 NVMe ports. I’d have to disassemble it to get a better idea of its USB 3.2 Gen 2 configuration. However, the D8 Hybrid only supports RAID 0 and 1 on SATA bays 1 and 2. I’m not sure I would want to use it as a makeshift NAS though. The D8 hybrid is a bit of an odd bird IMO.

I've this same setup running for one year now, with an Optiplex i7 and Proxmox. The only issue i've find is that the system reports USB 3.1 on 3.2 USB connectors, but i don't worry much as i've mechanical HDD discs and no ZFS

I like the conciseness of your video!

Oh, finally. Someone explains what's wrong with USB storage. Thank you. I've only ever encountered homelabers stating the obvious generic statements like "the USB cable can get loose" or "RAID is too complex for USB", which all goes without saying. I'll be careful with my 5-bay Yottamaster I've been using for my Raspberry Pi 4 with OMV. No worries, it mostly holds old SMR drives that I'm using as a 3rd copy of my files.

Unwatchable with the amount of adverts, every 30 secs so I gave up

Can anyone tell me why my HP Elidesk 705 g4 ryzen5 2400GE HDD Fan spins after turning on but then stops and doesn't start again until the next reboot? Does anyone have this problem? How to solve it?

And it's not straight from the CCP like so many other Minis are that so many "tech" guys naively recommend.

So I can confirm that the NH-L9x65 is a direct fit with no modifications to the case or cooler itself. The included AMD screws fit perfectly into the case cooler mounts, so I used those to attach the top bracket for the cooler. You'll need to cut threads into the Intel bracket, but it's easy since the metal is soft - just twist the screws back and forth a bit and they'll go in. I haven't touched the bios fan settings, but im already seeing at least a 15°C difference than before. Fan ramps up as it should, so I don't think I'll need to change that for now. I also added a small 60mm fan to the back help pull heat out of the case and attached that to the cpu connection with a y-adapter.

I took a shot at this mod on my EliteDesk 800 G6. For anyone who is trying this, it will NOT work on the G6 board. The caps have been rearranged and the four to the left of the CPU are in line with the bracket, and the two at the front are closer to the bracket. This doesn't allow you to attach the cooler since it is physically touching the capacitors and you cannot make a flush fit to the top of the CPU. Good thing I dry-fit it before I hammered down those posts! I wonder if the NH-L9x65 would fit better on the G6 board. The original cooler+fan is about 65mm from my measurements, so it should still fit vertically. Would just need to figure out how to manage the backplate against the case.

6:00 Are you saying to crack open the PSU itself and add in a low noise adapter inside the PSU?

I believe that model of ATX socketable cpu and universal motherboard is unsustainable. You simply don't need massive VRM systems that new b650/70, x870 boards have if what you put inside it is miniature 8 core ryzen cpu. Single board computer powered by ATX power supply and PCIE expansion slot is the future. The AliExpress board repurposing laptop soc and chip is the prime example of where market should go.

Make a video on setting up a aserver

WOW I'm seeing them for $80-350

use the solering iron to apply heat-shrink tubes since it is already hot and it's in your hands, instead of open flame get a jet lighter highly improove the results ;)

can u do light gaming on one of those i got i5 6500 like valorant or minecraft

Another good example is Esprimo Q956 with i5-6500T which is slightly more powerful than this i3...

Nice!

Awesome video, gonna check these out, thank you!

Damn, nice channel. I own a server rack myself with my gaming PC and server in it, still missing a firewall tho :D Love the shelf in the background with all these systems and old monitors <3

Great job! One thing anyone trying this on older backplanes should be aware of is some don't support the 'Power Disable Feature' provided by the SATA/SAS drive Pin 3 of larger/more modern hard drives. If a smaller, older drive spins up when insert into the backplane, but a newer typically 6+ TB drive doesn't then this is the issue. I have an older Lenovo server I refused to e-waste. Thinking it was something wrong with the backplane I finally discovered the reason and an easy solution. I just placed Kapton tape over pin 3 on each of the drives I'm using as detailed here ua-cam.com/video/9W3-uOl4ruc/v-deo.html

Mini PCs are great for all sorts of projects. I bought the 600 version of this a few years back (at the time it was $220 AUS) with an i7 6700T, 16GB of RAM and 256GB NVME for a retro gaming PC. There's also Dell and Lenovo's in similar form factors. For a HTPC, I don't think the HP would look out of place on a TV unit. You can sometimes save money if you buy them without memory or drives but in a lot of cases, they can supply this pretty cheap compared to buying new. At least if they have a warranty and you have the RAM and drives and you have issues, you can send it back for a replacement or money back if you bought from a refurbish seller. One thing you need to look out for is overheating on these types of refurbished machines. I had issues with mine initially where it would just stop and reboot. I ended up removing and applying new heatsink paste and giving the fan and heatsink a dust (which wasn't all that bad)

Nice work, far better than my own janktastic Dell T5810 "thing" but then mine is for a somewhat different usecase, found it cheap with 32gb, quadcore xeon and 500gb disk -- it is now a 96gb ram equipped 14core with 2Tb SSD and 10Tb HDD and a Quadro P4000 GPU. Not what you'd expect from the outside as the front has transport damage making it a proper jankylooking sleeper. The GPU is for AI LLM stuff and encoding but the thing can play games too, better than I expected based on the cores being pretty slow on the e5-2683v3 it has. Also stuffed a 4port GBE in it, so it can run properly isolated VM's with multiple dedicated cores, ram and NIC. There are probably "smarter" ways to arrive at a similar result but I absolutely did not want a heavyass rackserver or something too loud to sleep in the same room with. It has an ML350G10 next to it that serves as the storage server among other duties, the ML350 has one 2,5" and one 3,5" disk cage, the smaller one stuffed with mirrored 480Gb SSD's for boot and 3x 15krpm SAS 900gb drives for fast storage, and the bigger cage has 16Tb bulk storage drives. So with a 10GBE in the HP fiber linked with Mikrotik CRS310 plus the DELL 1+ quad gigabit for now it's a decent homelab I think.

My google fu is lacking as I could not find this unit online and I too am an Aussie

Excellent structure and well researched video. The algorithm was right with this one. Subbed and looking forward to your future projects.

Love this kind of content. Great job!😁👍 Nice to see. Would you use only Sas drives or split the two cages between Sas and Sata? Also do you know if the back planes support Sata 3.0?

These are Delta double ball bearing fans aren't they? I really wouldn't replace them. Maybe take out the bearings and put some heavy grease on the shaft to damp the bearing rattle against it, maybe wash the bearings themselves first in degreaser then when dry in gear oil if they no longer feel great, or replace just the bearings. Fundamentally these fans are built to outlive us all.

How did you connect power to the drive backplane?