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it should have been a catch, im sobbing

shes 9 but theres a preschooler trainer class in the games anyway

to be fair penny is 9

@@TomsSauce you mean poppy? Poppy still looks no older than 4 or 5 based on her appearance and character.

honestly it's kinda easy to say in hindsight now but it is kinda neat that the reason rika had dugtrio was to help enable sludge wave

I don't think there's actually anything in the games that say that's the case

tbf she's just really small for her age since she's 9

My ideal battle with Ryme is having it be a double battle like the game, have Kilowattrel be Roy's tera and have Fuecoco's evolution there I'm definitely excited to see how Annihilape is portrayed too, like I wouldn't have thought it'd be the type of pokemon to do "otherworldly" things so it's cool that aspect of it will be portrayed

@@TomsSauce ​ @TomsSauce I guess when you think about it on the topic of otherworldly, what's more otherworldly than ghosts? As for Ryme though I had the same thought pathing, but it looks like based on how they portrayed things in the opening & ending themes that it might be 1v1

(Also: Fuck yeah Annihilape!)

Yeah it really deserved the screen time, even if I've been generally ok with the focus on Fuecoco powering up, just hope it actually gets to shine against one of the gym leaders

@TomsSauce yeah! I just hope that the other pokemon the three have dont get too shafted by the starters. Though thankfully, going from the title, it seems hattena is getting some limelight next episode too (On a related note, yeah, Annihilape is one of my favorite pokemon... ever, eelektross is also high up there as my favorite electric type but even still)

Honestly Hattenas needed it even more, I know battling isn't everything but the lack of it has hurt Hattena a lot for me

and i agree. while yes, hattena has pulled alot of weight with the emotional detection alone, a radar isnt all that pokemon is

It's a funny little twist, I quite enjoyed that it's attached to these little weirdo freak pokemon

Which is really neat, it's training after all, they shouldn't be burdened with pressure to have to win a fight on top of meeting the leaders criteria. On top of that it's her first time using it, so it's only fair.

An extra 5 could be pretty fitting tbh, like 2 for Liko and Roy and 1 for Dot would feel right

I vaguely script to give some direction to my thoughts, but free style a fair bit

I personally download the subs from the sub group some stuffs, otherwise typical websites that upload anime

I personally watch the episodes that are posted on Facebook

they hit us with so much greatness at once it's kinda insane

Oh yeah I definitely don't think Rayquaza was beaten, the fact it kind of had the impact of its own attack colliding with Self Destruct probably did the most damage that's been done to it so far and maybe give a chance to the rest next episode

Yeah but I think it's nice to break up everyone being a bit more serious

It's cool to see Sprigatito having a momentary edge even if it's not really something they can rely on

If I have the time I might

Even if it doesn’t take place in ash world, which I hope it doesn’t because it would give them the opportunity to bring adult ash and lei to HZ from there world where time is faster but there is still a lot of game characters that doesn’t show up in ash series. Like you could have daisy oak run the lab and have leaf with her female eevee living where ash does with her dad and have silver run team rocket with the admins from the games or team go rocket admins since willow was shown in HZ. We could have zinnia give the kids lore on black rayquaza or a bunch of other spinoff characters like Leah and eevee from cafe remix.

It really is neat that Hattena's got that going for it, would explain why Liko's never really fought using it before And yeah I didn't really mention it, but it's always nice to see more of the rest of the crew doing things, involving Mollie is always a plus in my books

@@TomsSauceI feel like once Hatenna gains more self-confidence, she'd definitely be ready to battle with Liko; and she'd be great to help in battle with her Confusion & Heal Pulse

That's the plan!

Honestly when I saw the Krookodile family using round I was thinking it'd be Round that Fuecoco would learn because I put that on my ingame one for a while, but giving that fairy coverage is great. You'd also think the RVTs would get something considering Roy sorted the situation with the Krookodile family attacking but alas

@@TomsSauceHonestly I had Disarming Voice on my Skeledirge during my playthrough {Torch Song, Shadow Ball, Disarming Voice, Seed Bomb}. Not only will Disarming Voice helping against Dark types in the future (and Rayquaza), the move never misses. - And I mean the RVTs were more hired to use their Airship to deal with the stones as the archelogists's own vehicles for excavation were destroyed by the Desert Croc Family, but since Roy got the family to do it instead of them, they really didn't do anything whatsoever to be paid for it

For my Skeledirge I think mine was torch song/blast burn/hyper voice/shadow ball, don't really ever use blast burn but it was fun as a finisher after building up special attack with torch song And yeah it's being kinda technical, but I feel like they probably should have earned something for bringing it to a peaceful conclusion lol

@@TomsSauceI got even more fun out of it when I had my Skeledirge equipped with Throat Spray, making Torch Song & Disarming Voice boost my Skeledirge's SP. ATK so much!!!! - The archeologists were just going to just battle the crocs if they had caused more damage to their dig site (albeit their counter measures did only work on the mid grunts with Hammer Arm & Dazzling Gleam, but I guess these diggers aren't the best trainers as they got defeated so easily & had prepared nothing else afterwards) > On that note, with dealing with the repair payments for the damage of the excavation vehicles the crocs did, it kinda makes sense here in a way as to why the RVTs weren't going to be paid after this; they just didn't have the money left to pay them even if they had completed the job

It'd have been cool, but I don't think they'll give him evolved pokemon before any of his current mons evolve

Roy Pokemon will save my life

Yeah I could do with seeing more of Roy's friends, like they hit all the nails for me with having one catch a Taillow and one want to take on Totems. I think we've only had like one moment since he left the island that references the fact he has to take classes. It's just in the context of this ep, using it to get Liko involved was a cute idea and seeing her verbalise her respect for Friede is great.

@@TomsSauce It is great just would like something for Roy school as well and very curious where its at like is it just a teacher in there house teaching kids online or is the school a actual place and the teacher is in a classroom teaching ether all online classes or just this 1 online class and the rest are in the school.

bros the goat for no reason

That could be a really interesting parallel between Lucius and Gibeon, like it's curious they still haven't shown Gibeon in any capacity, and we know that human spirits can definitely live on if it follows the previous animes rules (like having Kiawes grandfather, Mallows mother persist in the afterlife). idk if they'd do flat out possession that way but it'd be cool

@@TomsSauce They have done so many interesting things in the anime and the games I wouldn’t put it passed them but it will be interesting to see what happens. Like I think Lucius could of had 3 kids instead of just 1 that leads to liko the other 2 leads to roy and amethio its why the pendent and Pokéballs reacted it needs at least 2 of them to become active. Its very obvious that liko represents/connected to the moon, roy represents/connected to the sun and amethio could represents/connected to the stars.

Definitely interested to see how they explore of all this, especially as Horizons has kind of had a different approach to the anime before, so I think I could definitely agree that they could really surprise us.

@@TomsSauce yeah and I think Lucius is Diana grandpa and liko great great grandpa so just taking into account Lucius to liko we still need to see Lucius lover, there kid who would be Diana mom or dad and want to see the other parent not from Lucius line we know Diana and we need to see her lover/lucca dad and we have seen lucca and Alex who are liko parents. So that is 4 people we need to met to get from Lucius to liko.

The subs came out last night, I got them from some stuffs

@TomsSauce huh, i guess the thing i usually use does it a bit later then...

It came out a bit earlier, I think it's because most of the episode was less dialogue, more pokemon noises, so less to sub

@@TomsSauce fair enough

Not sure

Honestly with how desensitised you get from Ash thunderbolting Team Rocket its kinda easy to just accept it lmao

I think my problem, more so in regards to Roy we've never actually been shown him being able to get a win on screen, like he could probably beat Zir but all we really saw in Episode 6 when they fought was Rhydon getting hit by an Ember but we didn't see it faint, in Episode 25 it's likewise where Rhydon gets hit but we don't see it faint. I'm absolutely fine with there being a slower pace in regards to Liko and Roy's growth as trainers, but considering the episode was focused around Roy's ancient pokeball, that's where my issue with Roy not beating Tepen kinda lies, even if it was beating Honedge and Bronzor while they weren't with Tepen would have been fine. Also yeah Diana's friend choices are crazy lol

@@TomsSauce true but he is the more battle driven protag I do hope he is the one that gets the most hits on lapras even tho we know they won’t knock it out it will just be calmed down so they can talk to it like the other hero Pokémon. I do hope everyone in the main cast RVT/explorers improves by getting new moves and new Pokémon like I’m fine with everyone only being at a limit of 3 Pokémon atm but do stuff with them like zir/conia only has 1 move on their skarmory which is whirlwind like give them both round then the last 2 moves be completely different. I have a Pokémon for each of the RVT adults friede any ash Pokémon definitely if it has a gimmick like gengar and snorlax have 2 and he can give any of them a z crystal or tera blast it would be interesting to see him with a squirtle and bulbasur he fully evos and gets there megas/gmax, orla klink because she loves gears, mollie any Pokémon center Pokémon, Murdock any food Pokémon, ludlow drampa. I do want all the explorers admins and grunts and Anne to have a eevee evo like spinel has umbreon, conia would get leafeon since its a grass cat like sprigatito, zir would get flareon because roy fuecoco keeps beating him so he thinks a fire type would be a good choice, onyx would get vaporeon, agate sylveon, sango jolteon, Anne glaceon and amethio espeon.

Yeah it definitely is nice getting to explore the ship, it's been something we've been with fully for like 24 episodes now, so getting a better idea of where everything lays is nice. Great to be able to visualise that.

@@TomsSauce yeah now if we only knew the room arrangements like I could friede, mollie, orla and ludlow or Murdock on 1 side of the ship while dot, liko, roy and ludlow or Murdock on the other it would depend on if Murdock would want to be close to his niece in someway and ludlow is like the grandpa on the ship and he wouldn’t care where his room is at they should have name on the doors

That'd be very neat, I do hope we get that

It'd be kinda neat for Amethio to have some sort of special involvement

@@TomsSauce He is a outlier in the explorers he doesn’t follow orders or worship the leader like the others seem to and he has his own people that follow him not the leader. Also with Diana saying Lucius and his friends I think liko is Lucius descendant while roy and amethio are his friends descendant and we saw a picture come out of the journal so I bet they look like his friends and there was a blue book as well.

I know this comment was written before the recent episode, but I'd say not all of them follow orders as they just do whatever works to their own benefit. Like, I think Spinel was being pretty deceptive by not mentioning everything he knew about the situation, kind of lying by omission, and of course Sango and Onyx not holding back in the recent ep (again though I know you wouldn't have seen it at the time of commenting). I do gotta wonder if Amethio is actually a descendant though, there could be some good evidence for that now that it's confirmed that the Explorers were Lucius's friends. There's a lot to look forward too!

@@TomsSauce I still think liko, roy and amethio are the descendants of Lucius and his friends and represent the moon, sun and stars. With the way the teens react to hamber every time he tells them to listen and be quiet they seem scared of him and he kinda looked like he was going to hurt them with dusknoir and instead of doing the usual teen thing of turning your head away and crossing your arms they went quiet and stood up straight. So I think he is abusing the teens in someway and the reason they are so cutthroat is because whoever does a good job doesn’t get punished. Also every time there is a child and adult that are villains the kids are abused, manipulated or abandoned in some way so it won’t be a surprise if that is happening here as well. If that is true I hope the teens get out as soon as possible amethio is definitely going to be the first with zir conia help and support then if I had to guess sango would be next because she is the youngest so she wasn’t there as long and seeing amethio do it gives her the courage to then I think onyx will then agate then spinel last.

To be honest, I'm not super sure, I don't really have the time to do that in addition to work, but I can look into doing some stuff for the movies and specials Lumiose Trainer Zac does have a great "which pokemon movies are canon" video which kind of places where each movie would be in relation to the episodes I believe

They're in Galar to meet Liko's grandma

Ohhhh okay thanks for that information also aint goh still in galar or kanto? I forgor@@TomsSauce

I dunno, he just went on his own journey but didnt say where

I'm definitely hoping Anne's related to the explorers somehow, I can't really remember her ever so giving her more of a role, especially tying her into Amethio's group would be nice

@@TomsSauce she has to be important somehow and definitely think she is amethio sister but that doesn’t mean she has to be a explorer she could join the RVT later and having family on different sides is always interesting to see and I think she will have a armarouge to amethio creuledge.

The artists both did a great job

That'd be some cool continuity, that'd be nice

I hope ash and HZ are different universes so HZ can do anything they want without having to worry about ash history and worrying about trying to get VA back. Like they can’t get someone back but are going there no problem it’s a AU so it’s a anime only character that is there or a unused game character. Also the only way I want ash back is a great conclusion movie not connected to HZ universe where ash, lei, his friends and team rocket that quit and are good are adults so they all get new VA and have a party at the start that is telling you what each of them has done since we last saw them and all unanswered questions get answered. Then someone that wants to hurt ash kidnapped lei and everyone helps get him back and keep ash calm because his aura is going crazy.

@@TomsSauce Indeed =3

@@shadowwizard2383 ....How about no? :/

@@jimmyhook4852 Don’t want ash and HZ to be different universes we just got to wait and see what they do since they have us in limbo right now

Thank you

They really did a great job in selling me on these three as friends, it's shocking how quick Dot has fit in with them

​@@TomsSauceI agree with you, I love how they interact and look forward to more😊