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Neonkev #5 - Agilent/Keysight U8903A Audio Analyzer teardown and repair attempt
Personal engineering blog: neonkev.com/
Business inquiries: rtron.com/
Hi all, thanks for tuning into another episode of neon kev, where we tear down and attempt to repair an Agilent/Keysight U8903A audio analyzer. We will examine the instrument at a hardware level and attempt to replace key components (AD7763, ADSP-21369) in order to resolve an error symptom which occurs during certain measurements. Ultimately, we are not able to complete the repair without further resources. If we are able to acquire the additional resources needed to continue the repair attempt, a follow up video will be produced.
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Neonkev #4 - 600 WATT PC FAN?! High power fan collection and custom PWM controller.Neonkev #4 - 600 WATT PC FAN?! High power fan collection and custom PWM controller.
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Project files to build the controller and level shifter circuit can be downloaded here: neonkev.com/2023/11/06/universal-high-power-4-wire-pwm-fan-controller/ Chapters: 00:00 Intro 00:26 DC Brushless fan intro (how it works) 02:06 Custom designed, wide input, high power 4 wire fan controller with tachometer 03:56 Fan demo intro 04:10 EBM Papst 8212J/2H4P demo 04:57 Delta THA1248BE demo 05:53 Ni...
Neonkev #3 - Agilent E8257C 20 GHz microwave analog signal generator repairNeonkev #3 - Agilent E8257C 20 GHz microwave analog signal generator repair
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Alltest Instruments: alltest.net/ Custom Cal: custom-cal.com/ Personal engineering blog: neonkev.com/ Business inquiries: rtron.com/ Hi all, thanks for tuning into another episode of neon kev, where we are tackling a repair on a high performance microwave signal generator, the E8257C. This unit has a number of self test errors that we will diagnose alongside the service manual and eventually ef...
Neonkev #2 - Anritsu MS2721B spectrum analyzer repair (NorthridgeFix follow up)Neonkev #2 - Anritsu MS2721B spectrum analyzer repair (NorthridgeFix follow up)
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NorthridgeFix connector repair video: ua-cam.com/video/vmjAIXx48AA/v-deo.html Thank you for tuning in. Today, we have a quick follow up video as requested by viewers of the NorthridgeFix repair channel for a ripped SMT connector that was restored. We prep the repair area by cleaning and applying silicone to reinforce the connector, then reassemble and test the instrument after a firmware update...
Neonkev #1 - An intro to Nixie Tubes (nixie history, how they work, and more!)Neonkev #1 - An intro to Nixie Tubes (nixie history, how they work, and more!)
Neonkev #1 - An intro to Nixie Tubes (nixie history, how they work, and more!)
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Hi all! Welcome to the first video I've made to go along with my personal engineering blog: neonkev.com/ My life changed after discovering nixie tubes; they piqued my interest in electrical engineering and help me to discover new engineering skills and knowledge! I hope you enjoy this expository video about all things nixie related. No one video can cover all aspects of a topic, but hopefully y...

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  • @deadpossum100
    @deadpossum100 24 дні тому

    If you had a good board, why use parts from the good board to fix the bad board, why not just swap boards and be done with it? Maybe I missed something.

  • @samogx86
    @samogx86 29 днів тому

    Beatiful.

  • @MrBobWareham
    @MrBobWareham Місяць тому

    What is it with youtubers and rubber gloves it looks stupid

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 Місяць тому

      I always wear gloves when working on projects. Saves time cleaning fingerprints and skin oils off later.

  • @RobertCraft-re5sf
    @RobertCraft-re5sf 2 місяці тому

    Your mic is way too close to your mouth.

  • @onesengineer
    @onesengineer 3 місяці тому

    Great job bro

  • @monarch_of_death
    @monarch_of_death 4 місяці тому

    I'm confused by the radiation part Do we constantly have to expose the nixies to radiation to get it working or do we just have to do it once? And how the nixie clock works i mean how the number changes ?

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 4 місяці тому

      The radiation I'm referring too is normal background levels. There is a small amount of ionizing radiation everywhere, and these stray ions are usually what will "kick off" ionization inside the tube once a strong electric field (from high voltage) has been applied. The numbers change inside of the tube by switching the circuit across different segments. In a numeric tube (0 to 9), each number is an individual piece of metal, acting as a cathode. An external circuit will connect and disconnect each number. So if you connect 2 numbers across the high voltage circuit, they will glow at the same time.

  • @Flipclockfans
    @Flipclockfans 4 місяці тому

    Excellent history and review of Nixie tube function!

  • @billdomitilli8125
    @billdomitilli8125 4 місяці тому

    I would have used a hard epoxy instead of RTV, but something's better than nothing. Glad it worked. Cheers, --bd

  • @xDevscom_EE
    @xDevscom_EE 5 місяців тому

    Could it be some via crack or trace damage on digital bus to DSP? Also did you try to replace SDRAM? Sometimes DRAM chips also die, had few repairs like that.. It's bit funny how UI programmer who designed front panel interface didn't worry much about putting support and processing for gigavolts and teravolts. Totally reasonable signal levels, no worries :D

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 5 місяців тому

      Hey Ilya. I was thinking about DRAM recently as well. A friend suggested that I should try heating/cooling DRAM chip while running, this might show change and help isolate part. I don't think unit has any ram test built in software. I will order some new ram chips anyways because they are cheap. We will see! Yes, it is strange how the instrument does not detect anything wrong with crazy readings! Self test is also useless on this model. It just checks few basic things on ADC/range switching and always passes...

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff 5 місяців тому

    Would be surprising if there wasn't a checksum on the DSP flash data, which would produce an error message rather than show bad readings. Would also be unusual for it to not be possible for the host to update DSP firmware - preprogramming may just be a bootloader to allow further programming.

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 5 місяців тому

      Hey Mike. It is strange that there are no errors shown if the DSP program is corrupted. I did reinstall the firmware update package several times too. It has several parts and all of them installed and verified successfully. I'm not sure if the flash on the ADSP-21369s is updated during this process. The way the flash ICs for each DSP are marked with a custom "U8903-X" part # leads me to believe they are preprogrammed. I don't think this issue could be the DRAM for the DSP going bad? Each DSP has an external 128Mb DRAM as well. Besides getting flash from a working unit, the only other routes I can think of are to replace the other DSP processors (the other ADSP-21369 and the one other ADSP-BF535P also on the board). Keysight condemned the unit outright. Because it is declaired "obsolite" the motherboard is not even available for replacement (they would never do component level repair/diagnostic/reprogramming in the first place).

  • @cat637d
    @cat637d 5 місяців тому

    Typical gubmint goon behavior, destroying a fine instrument over erasing data!

  • @tom928
    @tom928 7 місяців тому

    Just earned a new subscriber. Awesome work!

  • @c4t4l4n4
    @c4t4l4n4 7 місяців тому

    I am impressed by the detailed fault finding procedure you have captured on video. Hopefully there will be more (& frequent) episodes. 🧡😎

  • @VEC7ORlt
    @VEC7ORlt 7 місяців тому

    San Ace 200, oh I know where this is going! Too bad you don't have their counter-rotating monster.

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 6 місяців тому

      Haha yup! Maybe I'm feeling indulgent ill pick one of those up too. The biggest problem is running out of room to store the collection..

  • @1gman858
    @1gman858 8 місяців тому

    Quality work and video, Kevin!

  • @larrybud
    @larrybud 8 місяців тому

    Would love to see more from you.

  • @Moosetraks21
    @Moosetraks21 8 місяців тому

    Great collection

  • @Jeff_FanCollector
    @Jeff_FanCollector 9 місяців тому

    hey, I am very impressed with all the fans you have, all those jet fans are on the list of fans in my collection that I have never owned, what amazed me is... ebmpapst DiaForce is the latest model fan, and you already have it, one of the fans which uses quite a lot of electricity, nice bro I really enjoyed your video👌

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 9 місяців тому

      Thank you! I see that you have quite the collection of fans too. I have a bunch as well, but I chose these as they are the high power ones and are more interesting. The DiaForce is what made me want to do the video, it's quite an interesting fan.

    • @DancewithJohnNLHates405s
      @DancewithJohnNLHates405s 5 місяців тому

      ​@@neonkev7866if you didn't know, Sanyo Denki (San Ace) fans are made in the Philippines.

    • @Jeff_FanCollector
      @Jeff_FanCollector 4 місяці тому

      ​@@neonkev7866Sorry in advance, how do I turn on the EbmPapst 5318/2TDH4P fan? cause I just bought it, and if I just use the +red & -blue cable, the fan won't spin

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 4 місяці тому

      @@Jeff_FanCollector Hi Jeff, are you using 48 volts DC for the fan?

  • @TheAMGReviewers
    @TheAMGReviewers 9 місяців тому

    i feel like i need the sanyo tornado for summer, cos man it gets warm lol, great vid bud

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 9 місяців тому

      Thank you. Yes, it would be very effective at cooling you off. Just make sure to wear ear plugs and safety glasses. And make sure there are no small, loose objects behind it before turning on!

    • @TheAMGReviewers
      @TheAMGReviewers 9 місяців тому

      @neonkev7866 I research industrial fans lol, I know all about that. We sent a few things flying from the other end of the workshop

  • @herbertjuliette762
    @herbertjuliette762 10 місяців тому

    Promo SM 🤪

  • @fatcamp907
    @fatcamp907 10 місяців тому

    Any progress on the Nixie Smart Watch?

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 10 місяців тому

      Not much unfortunately. Just been busy with test equipment; I stalled on the software for that proj. since that was way above my head at the time. It will return it due time..

  • @voip4life
    @voip4life 10 місяців тому

    Pretty wild the power of the internet connecting people. Was great to see this all the way through.

  • @김규헌-k5l
    @김규헌-k5l 10 місяців тому

    good video!! Can adjust the Diaforce fan speed by 9PC8666X-S001?

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 10 місяців тому

      Thank you! The 9PC8666X-S001 can only support 3.3 volt or 5 volt PWM voltage. You will need PWM signal up to 12 volts for Diaforce. Diaforce also supports control with 0-10 volts DC voltage (no PWM). Maybe you can make this signal with voltage divider using potentiometer.

    • @김규헌-k5l
      @김규헌-k5l 10 місяців тому

      ​@@neonkev7866 oh.. I have the 9PC8666X-S001(I bought it a long time ago) I can know the special level shifter circuit buy's URL??

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 10 місяців тому

      @@김규헌-k5l I put all the files for controller and level shifter on my website here: neonkev.com/2023/11/06/universal-high-power-4-wire-pwm-fan-controller/ You can download and order PCB and parts, then solder it together.

    • @김규헌-k5l
      @김규헌-k5l 10 місяців тому

      ​@@neonkev7866 wow thank you!! I will order on JLCPCB the pwm level shifter circle.

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 10 місяців тому

      @user-tz9xo4xd1y great! looking forward to a video with diaforce perhaps

  • @VictorLarsen-fy9ls
    @VictorLarsen-fy9ls 10 місяців тому

    These new nixie tubes are not interesting because they cost a lot of money, like a horse, this is a great speculation.$👎

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 8 місяців тому

      Nixies certainly are expensive. However, if you look at the original prices when they were in production, they were also quite expensive historically. That's why nixies were used mainly in scientific and industrial equipment; not so much in consumer electronics at the time. Nixies may seem like simple devices at first glance, but I assure you that it is quite complicated in practice between the materials science and manufacturing techniques. Just ask Dalibor Farny.

  • @FanPhys
    @FanPhys 10 місяців тому

    Great video, and brilliant project too. I've been tinkering with this stuff for several years but I'm no electronic engineer so I've been using discreet components to make a simple square wave generator, and it works very well indeed. I love that you've managed to cram so many features into your project, especially the (oft neglected) option to invert the PWM control signal for fans that like it so! What drew me to this video was the thumbnail image, in which I instantly recognised the Servo fans - I have the 12v version of the G1238B, which is an incredible specimen. I also have similarly bonkers offerings from Sanyo Denki and Delta, for which I've had to search far and wide. :)

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 10 місяців тому

      Thank you David! The microcontroller design enables you to incorporate any feature you can code and fit in the memory. I’ve built discrete PWM controller designs using 555 timers as well; finally decided to buckle down with some newly learned skills and try to make "the" fan controller I always wanted.

    • @FanPhys
      @FanPhys 10 місяців тому

      I'd love to be able to make a digital one but it's out of my scope. Interestingly, I have just acquired a Nidec Servo G1238V48BHZP-95​ and it runs perfectly, but I can't for the life of me get it to respond to speed control and I'm suspicious it's the frequency (which I'm running just below 5KHz). What freq were you using for your Servo fans? It's nigh impossible to get the datasheets for these puppies...! *EDIT: Never mind, I had the tach wire instead of the control wire. If only the colours were standardized, life would be so much easier!

  • @jlippencott1
    @jlippencott1 11 місяців тому

    I had the pleasure of being a technician on the Nixie manufacturing line at the Burroughs plant in NJ when I was a young man. I had no idea at the time how important and how ubiquitous the Nixie tubes were at that time. The process was very complex and incredibly precise, with a team of mostly women that had the dexterity and patience to hand assemble the internal parts, which were subsequently sent on to the exhaust and fill department where the bulbs were mated to the pin bases and then evacuated and filled with the neon/xenon gas mix. I have some equipment made by Hewlett-Packard that still have working Nixies for their displays.

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 8 місяців тому

      Thank you for sharing your story with us. That must have been quite the experience, to be there on the Burroughs production line. I wonder if most of today's technology will be working some 60+ years later!

  • @georgenicholas5210
    @georgenicholas5210 11 місяців тому

    Great video. My 2721B is recently displaying LO1 Lock Error. Is this common, and what is the fix?

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 11 місяців тому

      Thank you! Yes, the LO1 unlock error is quite common on these units. The culprit is cold solder joints on one of the 3 VCOs used in the spectrum analyzer portion. The Signal Path actually has a great video where he covers a repair of this condition: ua-cam.com/video/1_M-Wccn2w8/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared I've repaired a bunch of 2721Bs with this fault too. If you're not comfortable doing it yourself, feel free to reach out through my business contact in the description.

  • @mickwolf1077
    @mickwolf1077 11 місяців тому

    So they destroy random stuff to get sensitive data off the unit when removing the storage media would suffice

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 11 місяців тому

      Pretty much. The bootable compact flash can be removed without damage by first unscrewing the motherboard. They don't bother and just break the socket ripping it out. They also rip all the SRAM off on the back of the mobo. Ironically, there is also more SRAM on the front but that never gets touched, again because nobody bothers to remove the motherboard.

  • @popcorny007
    @popcorny007 11 місяців тому

    What an awesome project! Something about fans pulling 100W is always incredible to see lol Do the wires heat up very much?

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 11 місяців тому

      Thank you! The wires and PCB do certainly warm up, but I made sure to use heavy enough wires and make the traces wide on the PCB. I did a test on the PCB with my thermal camera and a programmable load. At 10 amps continuous, the hottest spot on the PCB are the input traces where the power comes in. Peak temp is 60C with no active cooling. I added the 5V aux fan output so you can add a small fan to cool the board if you want to run 15 amps + for long times.

  • @jason620362
    @jason620362 11 місяців тому

    6:43 I thought it was a Chinese tube called sz-8 or qs30-1 They look alike but much smaller

  • @andyracksthecams
    @andyracksthecams Рік тому

    What a terrible design. Should not be this way on pro rediculously expensive equipment. BTW, sort out the colour temperature of your monitor. 🤣

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 Рік тому

      The blue light filter does help with eye strain. Once you get used to it, you realize how intense regular settings are.

    • @andyracksthecams
      @andyracksthecams Рік тому

      @@neonkev7866 was being cheeky. Great job. 👍

  • @physicsguybrian
    @physicsguybrian Рік тому

    Curious. Why'd you send the board to NorthridgeFix instead of doing it yourself?

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 Рік тому

      I am not experienced in pad strip restoral, and this was not a good first project to practice on. I'd rather send it to a pro in this method than risk damaging this board myself. Plus, I enjoy Alex's content and wanted to show some support.

  • @cristianstoica4544
    @cristianstoica4544 Рік тому

    I'm glad you made it work but boy, is that a bad connection design! Like in bad-bad and bad-bad-bad!!! It's that easy to rip the connector off if you don't know what's under the board and you lift it at an angle.

  • @ruhnet
    @ruhnet Рік тому

    Disappointing that the errors didn’t give some distinction between hardware problems and cal problems, but great repair nonetheless!

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 Рік тому

      Yeah it would be nice if the missing/erronious calibration memory threw a distinct error, instead of generating a random hardware error. Thanks for watching!

  • @JAKOB1977
    @JAKOB1977 Рік тому

    Hoarder warehouse..! 0:15 (many tens of thousands of units.) Are they trying to coner the market on second hand labgear. a shame that all that second hand units aint out amongst the hobbybased markets, and help create an incentive for hobbybased engineers.

    • @brianconsoli2303
      @brianconsoli2303 Рік тому

      Hey Jakob! We save surplus T&M equipment from landfills, refurbish the equipment, and sell it to hobbyists and startups throughout the world. Happy to be part of the green ecosystem.

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 Рік тому

      In all fairness, most of this equipment isn't that old (< 20 years) and is still worth a lot to legitimate businesses. It is notably less expensive than buying new. The target market isn't the average hobbyist; a reality for brand name, high performance equipment. Most hobbyists don't have a use for a 40GHz+ sampling oscilloscope with a maximum input of 5 volts into 50 ohms...

  • @ahmedalshalchi
    @ahmedalshalchi Рік тому

    Good job Sir ... Very Professional diagnostic process , I admire ... But since it ended with calibration issue then I would not recommend you do replacement for the parts on ALC board , it could be also a CAL issue rather faulty chips ...

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 Рік тому

      Thank you. Yes, this could have been a possibility, I suppose we will never know. I was inclined to believe the unit had a hardware problem since it had been set aside as such.

  • @xDevscom_EE
    @xDevscom_EE Рік тому

    Thanks for video! Had very mixed experience with Alltest before.

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 Рік тому

      Thanks for tuning in Illya! They do have a huge and mixed inventory; I can see some boxes slipping through the cracks if needing service before resale. Hopefully they were able to make it right.

    • @brianconsoli2303
      @brianconsoli2303 Рік тому

      Hey illya. Sorry to hear about the mixed experience. Reach out directly to me. I’d be happy to discuss it and make it right if possible. Thanks!

  • @dosgos
    @dosgos Рік тому

    It is fun to see how how different engineers approach the troubleshooting of test equipment. Great video.

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 Рік тому

      Thank you! Always looking to share and learn new ways to solve problems.

  • @arva1kes
    @arva1kes Рік тому

    Saying that capacitors are on the way and it's hard to repair because of that is real short sight. As 6 easy de solderings later they can be removed to work on 24 broken pads and then put back on after work. The thing that they don't need a fix is not reason enough not to take them off the board for a sec.

  • @NotoriousPyro
    @NotoriousPyro Рік тому

    Wow that is an incredibly bad design, they should have at least had that connector cabled so that there was no stress on the connector.

  • @additudeobx
    @additudeobx Рік тому

    OH, and BTW... thank you for practicing ESD safety!! I appreciate it!! Also, I have used Gorilla Waterproof Caulk Seal for bonding, and it works well. It's a semi-hard texture when it cures, not the soft-squishy texture.

    • @billdomitilli8125
      @billdomitilli8125 4 місяці тому

      I don't see that ESD awareness at Northridge. My Lab was scrupulous about it when we were developing cellphone WiFi for the first time...what we didn't need was extraneous surprise failures along the way!

  • @additudeobx
    @additudeobx Рік тому

    ...and just for the sake of equally saying, when the military upgrades equipment, in this case, electronic equipment, the Pentagon contracts a government approved civilian scrapper to dispose of the equipment per instructions. The civilian scrapper actually pays the government for the scrap, typically by the pound. So, it's not like there is a bunch of military personnel taking this stuff apart and 'effn it up. It's a civilian contractor, parting stuff out, saving precious metals, and reselling to the market. No offense to anyone, but scrapping is not a highly skilled job.

  • @isaacrosales1887
    @isaacrosales1887 Рік тому

    Excellent collab video. Thank you for sharing, i don't see that often specialized equipment repair videos

  • @dosgos
    @dosgos Рік тому

    Cool workspace! Thanks for following up on the NorthridgeFix video.

  • @AntiVaganza
    @AntiVaganza Рік тому

    I dont know the first thing about electronics but I do know a bit about adhesives and am I wrong in assuming that most silicones don't actually adhere well to pretty much anything else that glass, silicone and other things will silica in it...? Epoxies and polyurethanes however are famous for bonding well to most things. If there's a high end epoxy of PU that is known not to mess with your traces and not conduct, I would have used that, ground out a small undercut on the connector and scuffed whereever I could to get even more mechanical grip for the adhesive.

  • @paianys
    @paianys Рік тому

    Sometimes, those types of pins can stuck, staying in contact for a long time. You can put some oil and remove excess oil, next time it will be easier to remove and it will not stress the board.

  • @_macrophage
    @_macrophage Рік тому

    Came here from NorthridgeFix repair video. Glad to see the repair worked. Look forward to more of your videos as well. Great stuff

  • @petejones1957
    @petejones1957 Рік тому

    Don't know if anyone's seen the trailer for the film "Oppenheimer" they show a countdown clock using Nixie tubes, which seemingly were not made "til 1955, spooky! Super interesting and informative video, thank you

    • @neonkev7866
      @neonkev7866 8 місяців тому

      Interesting point, that is certainly an anachronism (nixies during the manhattan project). Whatever looks good on screen, I guess!

  • @magitsu
    @magitsu Рік тому

    Did you see the comment from Anritsu (Hector, engineer) from the NorthridgeFix video comments 3 months ago?

  • @kikinit999
    @kikinit999 Рік тому

    Awesome follow up. One of the best I've seen for sure. I didn't realize what this unit was until I watched the follow up. wow, is all I can say. Have a great day.