Looks like a very Powerful ceremony! Much Respect to you Apache people! I can see the Strong belief in your tradition! May you never lose its meaning...
This is why others misunderstood the traditional dances cause they were not allowed to viewed outside of the Tribes. This is how we learn about these traditional dances and ceremonies
UA-cam has tuaght me alot about my apache traditions its hard beacuase my elders are 3 hours away and i have no one to teach me thank you for teaching the youth through this platform
Man I trip on the communal spirit these dances tend to have,wish we came together as a community for certain things but I guess it's just not meant to be.
As great as this is to see, I do agree with the below comments something like this should not be shared with the whole world to see. There are just some things that are not ment to be seen, ceremonies like this should be for family only and for her to come into womanhood the right way with out Technology getting in the way. This was her time not ours. I hope this message is not seen in a bad way because I mean no disrespect. Mitákuye Oyás'iŋ.
Omg at least I'm not Apache. That's gotta be a lot of work for this ceremony. Us Navajo women when we go thru our womanhood it's called Kinaalda. That's the easiest one to go thru.
I go by what the Medicine Man says...not by what the other people may all say and think........If he says it's ok to record this for all to see, then it is "ok" ...period....Only the Medicine People are truly connected to the Spirit World in a way most of us "normal" folks are not......So we may not have the capacity to "understand" their ways...and we may "disagree" with them, ..but they DO KNOW what they are doing, and they do everything for "a reason"......We must always follow their guidance and wisdom....and not ever question them......out of respect for the Power of the Great Spirit.......
I think white people have forgotten if it was not for the Indian tribe where they landed from Plymouth England they would have died how where they treated for they kindes of the Indian not good.
great feeling to live this beautifull ceremonies but this does not belong in youtube, this shuld be shown in a diferent way, by the grandfathers, in their own circules, only by people who care and to people who care
Don’t be afraid , this will not take away from the sacredness of this ceremony. It make it more sacred. As an indigenous man from Manitoba I realize my hands to the courage of your people to no longer live in the shadows of oppression and shame but to rejoice our sacredness as a people. As an observer I have great respect for what is going on, and I do not know the ceremony, but know i is special. This is similar to non-indigenous people who come to our ceremonies.we do not need to hide our way of life and live in the historic mistrust that we hold for the wrongs against us. We can heal and lift ourselves us... Hiy Hiy Ekosi ... Piwapiskwenow
seeing this girl dance non stop to show her strength and endurance is an amazing sight, makes me proud to be a Pima, im not even apache but i know that it shouldnt be video taped, too sacred though
I think it is a good way to document these traditions. I believe it is a beautiful thing that these traditions are no longer lost or considered illegal.
it is a sad confusion when we try to replace whole life ways of the keystone species our ancestors had with song and dance and ceremony and symbolisms that were never to take the place of life ways we don't walk in any more ... I see this real traditional culture being replaced by what is no more a full culture than pow wow
Idk who said its ok to post these dances!!. These are our traditions. They are not ment for all eyes to see. These are sacred to our people only. This causes the white man to take over again. Yes they can see but who gives one permission . We arent supposed to look at this in my tribe. Idk why i clicked on it. Have sum respect for your people. My natives
I bet this man standing in ceremony with his daughter or grand-daughter or niece is so proud to have his relative introduced to the four quarters of the universe and to see her as the morning star and the beginning " How Powerful" it is no wonder how Geronimo was in touch with t he universe.
The Apache Dancer with the white mask; and nice body is admirable. I don't understand why so many people are complaining about this being sacred and that being sacred, then you have some that are complaining about certain group exploding their traditional inaccurately. As a Dine' (Navajo); we are losing our culture everyday to western civilization, moderation ways of life. Would it be better to have something recorder for the betterment of your tribe, then lose it to the 'White Man Way'? Just my thoughts.
+Nickii Brenton I think I got cancer from reading this. This is sacred because this young lady is being painted by the Gaans and her Godfather, in the traditions she is molding into Changing Woman (Semigaysha) if you were Apache you would be saying this is sacred too! This is a very important part of the ceremony, that is why the White Clown runs around to people who have cameras or phones out, he will block it because it is sacred. And disgusting for saying the White Clown has a nice body, we are not to say that about them. That just makes them someone to check out. I'm with everybody on this, this is suppose to be sacred and not recorded. My thoughts too.
These dances are sacred and shouldn't be filmed regardless of the medicine man saying it's okay. You should be taking a mental picture. Hold onto that memory and keep it close... I haven't watched the video yet and I'm almost scared too. I'm Navajo and some where along the way I may have Apache mixed in. I don't feel right to watch this without being there physically..
Blessings blessing blessings to this beautiful, strong, soulful young lady! I am grateful to have been able to be a part of her ceremony in some way. You can feel all the love and blessings from her kinfolk. This kind of love and healthy supportive bond from the men in her family and community is a medicine for us all. While watching, though I never received a ceremony like this in my honour, I felt like I was dancing in her place, with her, and all blessings and love of all my male ancestors being poured on me too, retroactively. This honouring of her transition into womanhood with such love honours each and every young woman, and all of us who have passed theough this stage of life, without it being celebrated by our community as it rightfully should be. While watching, I saw all girls of all nations being blessed, and prayed for the blessing of all young women and the restoration of the circle of community and family that uplifts and supports with such deep and heartfelt love. I am grateful for the love care tenderness and wishes for protection of these men, which is too often suppressed in our society and not sufficiently appreciated. I am grateful for the choice to record and share this sacred moment, may the Creator and our Ancestors grant that our spiritual eyes be opened to see and receive with reverence what beauty love and unity is being transmitted here. It is up to each of us to be witnesses in the sacred space of our hearts. To all my relations!
This video is awesome even though I ain't no Native American but I do like the people who dances and singing to Mother Earth I always get into Native Americans a lot
As a native woman and an Apache woman I am happy to see this and hear the songs. But a part of me is distressed at seeing this on UA-cam. This is how we are losing the sacredness of our traditions, beliefs, and way of life through the technological revolution and sharing everything. This should not be recorded yet alone be on UA-cam. It shouldn't matter if a medicine man or elder says "it's okay" because it's said that things like this shouldn't be recorded for all to see.
Correct. My family came to southern Arizona back in 1862. I grew up around the Tribes and all this was highly secret certainly, no photos or films. But all that has ended, even the Hopi are allowing filming now.
emsnews What you say of the Hopi is technically not all true. Yes recording is allowed now but only for the social dances. There are still dances that are to not be recorded.
I'm of the same mind. I am a pagan and our rituals as glorious and spiritual as they are, are NOT allowed to be recorded because of this. Some things are NOT to be shared, but lived in the moment and held by yourself for your own memories. Blessed Be.
NativeHoney81334 My first thought was: Do they have the permission to record and upload this on YT? As it is something so intimate and so sacred for Native People! I also Polish btw. Greetings and stay strong!
NativeHoney81334 I truly am sorry you feel distressed, though I wish you were not. I not be Native American, but have always been fascinated with everything Native American ever since Kevin Costner's movie- dances with wolves. I know it probably doesn't portray the best picture, but did peak my interest into wanting to know more. I've been to a couple events around my way, but never had been as extravagant and beautiful as what I've seen on UA-cam. Anything that's even close within driving distance would be 150-200 mile round trip, which would be ok if I had a more reliable vehicle, or knew people in my area going the same direction. Might have to research that possibility if I can find an event. Any suggestions, plz, on etiquette from greetings to salutations? Leaving nothing out in between. I want to learn, understand and know more, and its meant in the utmost respect and honor. So far, only way I can see any thing of Native Americans, is through UA-cam. If there were a place I could go to learn a language, love to do that as well, even if its only few words of greeting, being excused or taking my leave til the next time I see or speak to them.
+HeartlessNinja789 unless he got permission from the elder or medicine man. if not! then he should not record without permission or else. hint. I know because my elders and medicine man told me and a well, lets say my relative did not make to senior year. yep. but I love this though.
Well it is sacred but i bet the girls still dont know anything about what to do adter they get their first period...like for the Navajos when a girl gets her period and is now entering womanhood she has to cook, clean, and work outside for 4 days after in her traditional outfit like her jewelry and dress and moccasin. And if there is nothing to do she sits straight up quietly until told what to do. She cooks the food and serves everyone and eats whatever is left...but she cant eat anything sweet or salty or sour. So she eats lean meat with no fat or blue corn mush or any traditional foods. She also has to run every morning before the sun rises as far east as she can after that she faces east and prays and blesses herself from the ground to her feet and up to her head; she does this morning, afternoon, and evening. She cant talk back or complain or yell at anyone or anything. She cant laugh out and make stupid jokes. She cant eat red meat, she cant hit or strike with any part of her body, she cant touch the fire directly....so for 4 days she does these things and more because she is considered 'Holy'. Most people dont do these things anymore becuz they werent taught or didnt learn it. Yes the sunrise dance is sacred but what part is actually sacred nowadays? There are girls who do whatever they want for the 4 days after their first period, there are drugs and alcohol taken to these dances, most everyone goes to just be noticed there and eat but not spiritually support the girl, families dont listen to the medicine man when he is speaking but instead talk to each other and joke around and not sit quietly for a few minutes, others go to draw up business and take the attention away from the ceremony with junk food... One of my 5 younger sisters had a sunrise dance and she did her 4 day training and after a month of prep instead of the having it one the 4th day, we only had a one day sunrise dance out and away from town and had a group of family and friends who came to support her in any way with food, prayer, and kindness. We didnt want a flashy, big dance because as long as we had faith and prayer than everything was going to be alright. I do appreciate if you, yourself, keep things sacred on your part and in your family for those who need your support and prayers. Im sorry for putting in my couple cents of words but i would like to see how sunrise dances were way back when it was sacred to compare it to now.
it can be recorded, the medicine will literally stop the ceremony at certain parts like the blessing of the crown dancers, any praying for the girl, this is just a small part of the week long ceremony
I saw the first apache dance in Westerns, Delmer Dave Douglas Sirk, George Sherman, who were smart enough to add them in their films to give it an authentic touch
Pretty strong dance power😊
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God bless you all so very much.this video is a beautiful wonderful blessing to watch and I love all the beautiful dancers.
Looks like a very Powerful ceremony! Much Respect to you Apache people! I can see the Strong belief in your tradition! May you never lose its meaning...
This is why others misunderstood the traditional dances cause they were not allowed to viewed outside of the Tribes. This is how we learn about these traditional dances and ceremonies
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UA-cam has tuaght me alot about my apache traditions its hard beacuase my elders are 3 hours away and i have no one to teach me thank you for teaching the youth through this platform
Every single day family I will love you
Morning Apache family. I love love love love love you all
Man I trip on the communal spirit these dances tend to have,wish we came together as a community for certain things but I guess it's just not meant to be.
Good is this the one that was down below
We are stronger around in our heart
respect and honor
As great as this is to see, I do agree with the below comments something like this should not be shared with the whole world to see. There are just some things that are not ment to be seen, ceremonies like this should be for family only and for her to come into womanhood the right way with out Technology getting in the way. This was her time not ours. I hope this message is not seen in a bad way because I mean no disrespect. Mitákuye Oyás'iŋ.
NI'ZOH'NII.....👏
As Hopi And Navajo, I wish sometimes I was born an Apache
Omg at least I'm not Apache. That's gotta be a lot of work for this ceremony. Us Navajo women when we go thru our womanhood it's called Kinaalda. That's the easiest one to go thru.
These ceremonies also very expensive, some families start saving early on. My cousins family spent nearly 13k on everything for the full ceremony.
I go by what the Medicine Man says...not by what the other people may all say and think........If he says it's ok to record this for all to see, then it is "ok" ...period....Only the Medicine People are truly connected to the Spirit World in a way most of us "normal" folks are not......So we may not have the capacity to "understand" their ways...and we may "disagree" with them, ..but they DO KNOW what they are doing, and they do everything for "a reason"......We must always follow their guidance and wisdom....and not ever question them......out of respect for the Power of the Great Spirit.......
I think white people have forgotten if it was not for the Indian tribe where they landed from Plymouth England they would have died how where they treated for they kindes of the Indian not good.
This is how we preserve our culture
Nice video much respect, to. All native's
I am Navajo and I thought this was beautiful!
Human Beings are lost without Ceremony. I do not buy into the amnesia. Wake up! POWERFUL beyond words.
San Carlos ways... not white mount even though it’s from the salt river..
well listen to the heart and remember the moment the creator is there you can feel it native is forever
great feeling to live this beautifull ceremonies but this does not belong in youtube, this shuld be shown in a diferent way, by the grandfathers, in their own circules, only by people who care and to people who care
Hi
Exactly what is going on here? Inform me.
Native American Apache ceremonial dance for a girl coming of age
It’s a puberty ceremony...
So that's where my white Pickett fence went haha
My grandparents always told me that it is not allowed to record anything that we do for tradition.
Don’t be afraid , this will not take away from the sacredness of this ceremony. It make it more sacred. As an indigenous man from Manitoba I realize my hands to the courage of your people to no longer live in the shadows of oppression and shame but to rejoice our sacredness as a people. As an observer I have great respect for what is going on, and I do not know the ceremony, but know i is special. This is similar to non-indigenous people who come to our ceremonies.we do not need to hide our way of life and live in the historic mistrust that we hold for the wrongs against us. We can heal and lift ourselves us... Hiy Hiy Ekosi ... Piwapiskwenow
seeing this girl dance non stop to show her strength and endurance is an amazing sight, makes me proud to be a Pima, im not even apache but i know that it shouldnt be video taped, too sacred though
Beautiful dance.all my respect to the apache tribe.Aztec Pride.
I think it is a good way to document these traditions. I believe it is a beautiful thing that these traditions are no longer lost or considered illegal.
it is a sad confusion when we try to replace whole life ways of the keystone species our ancestors had with song and dance and ceremony and symbolisms that were never to take the place of life ways we don't walk in any more ... I see this real traditional culture being replaced by what is no more a full culture than pow wow
What are they painting her with and why?
Honestly I don't know why they are painting her I know what they are painting get with but I might not know why they are probably it very sacred
Idk who said its ok to post these dances!!. These are our traditions. They are not ment for all eyes to see. These are sacred to our people only. This causes the white man to take over again. Yes they can see but who gives one permission . We arent supposed to look at this in my tribe. Idk why i clicked on it. Have sum respect for your people. My natives
I bet this man standing in ceremony with his daughter or grand-daughter or niece is so proud to have his relative introduced to the four quarters of the universe and to see her as the morning star and the beginning " How Powerful" it is no wonder how Geronimo was in touch with t he universe.
The Apache Dancer with the white mask; and nice body is admirable. I don't understand why so many people are complaining about this being sacred and that being sacred, then you have some that are complaining about certain group exploding their traditional inaccurately. As a Dine' (Navajo); we are losing our culture everyday to western civilization, moderation ways of life. Would it be better to have something recorder for the betterment of your tribe, then lose it to the 'White Man Way'? Just my thoughts.
*betterment of your tribe for future preservation....
+Nickii Brenton I think I got cancer from reading this. This is sacred because this young lady is being painted by the Gaans and her Godfather, in the traditions she is molding into Changing Woman (Semigaysha) if you were Apache you would be saying this is sacred too! This is a very important part of the ceremony, that is why the White Clown runs around to people who have cameras or phones out, he will block it because it is sacred. And disgusting for saying the White Clown has a nice body, we are not to say that about them. That just makes them someone to check out. I'm with everybody on this, this is suppose to be sacred and not recorded. My thoughts too.
These dances are sacred and shouldn't be filmed regardless of the medicine man saying it's okay. You should be taking a mental picture. Hold onto that memory and keep it close... I haven't watched the video yet and I'm almost scared too. I'm Navajo and some where along the way I may have Apache mixed in. I don't feel right to watch this without being there physically..
Blessings blessing blessings to this beautiful, strong, soulful young lady! I am grateful to have been able to be a part of her ceremony in some way. You can feel all the love and blessings from her kinfolk. This kind of love and healthy supportive bond from the men in her family and community is a medicine for us all. While watching, though I never received a ceremony like this in my honour, I felt like I was dancing in her place, with her, and all blessings and love of all my male ancestors being poured on me too, retroactively. This honouring of her transition into womanhood with such love honours each and every young woman, and all of us who have passed theough this stage of life, without it being celebrated by our community as it rightfully should be. While watching, I saw all girls of all nations being blessed, and prayed for the blessing of all young women and the restoration of the circle of community and family that uplifts and supports with such deep and heartfelt love. I am grateful for the love care tenderness and wishes for protection of these men, which is too often suppressed in our society and not sufficiently appreciated. I am grateful for the choice to record and share this sacred moment, may the Creator and our Ancestors grant that our spiritual eyes be opened to see and receive with reverence what beauty love and unity is being transmitted here. It is up to each of us to be witnesses in the sacred space of our hearts. To all my relations!
what are they doing?
Painting her with sacred paint
This video is awesome even though I ain't no Native American but I do like the people who dances and singing to Mother Earth I always get into Native Americans a lot
ZETAS here
much respect and thank you. love Keetowah
beautiful apache all the way
As a native woman and an Apache woman I am happy to see this and hear the songs. But a part of me is distressed at seeing this on UA-cam. This is how we are losing the sacredness of our traditions, beliefs, and way of life through the technological revolution and sharing everything. This should not be recorded yet alone be on UA-cam. It shouldn't matter if a medicine man or elder says "it's okay" because it's said that things like this shouldn't be recorded for all to see.
Correct. My family came to southern Arizona back in 1862. I grew up around the Tribes and all this was highly secret certainly, no photos or films. But all that has ended, even the Hopi are allowing filming now.
emsnews What you say of the Hopi is technically not all true. Yes recording is allowed now but only for the social dances. There are still dances that are to not be recorded.
I'm of the same mind. I am a pagan and our rituals as glorious and spiritual as they are, are NOT allowed to be recorded because of this. Some things are NOT to be shared, but lived in the moment and held by yourself for your own memories. Blessed Be.
NativeHoney81334 My first thought was: Do they have the permission to record and upload this on YT? As it is something so intimate and so sacred for Native People! I also Polish btw. Greetings and stay strong!
NativeHoney81334 I truly am sorry you feel distressed, though I wish you were not. I not be Native American, but have always been fascinated with everything Native American ever since Kevin Costner's movie- dances with wolves. I know it probably doesn't portray the best picture, but did peak my interest into wanting to know more. I've been to a couple events around my way, but never had been as extravagant and beautiful as what I've seen on UA-cam. Anything that's even close within driving distance would be 150-200 mile round trip, which would be ok if I had a more reliable vehicle, or knew people in my area going the same direction. Might have to research that possibility if I can find an event. Any suggestions, plz, on etiquette from greetings to salutations? Leaving nothing out in between. I want to learn, understand and know more, and its meant in the utmost respect and honor. So far, only way I can see any thing of Native Americans, is through UA-cam. If there were a place I could go to learn a language, love to do that as well, even if its only few words of greeting, being excused or taking my leave til the next time I see or speak to them.
this shouldnt be recorded this is super sacred
+HeartlessNinja789 unless he got permission from the elder or medicine man. if not! then he should not record without permission or else. hint. I know because my elders and medicine man told me and a well, lets say my relative did not make to senior year. yep. but I love this though.
LelAplus it's ok babydoll...folks need to see this in these days
I had mine and it wasn't scary bc this is how we do it you have to learn how do make bread
Well it is sacred but i bet the girls still dont know anything about what to do adter they get their first period...like for the Navajos when a girl gets her period and is now entering womanhood she has to cook, clean, and work outside for 4 days after in her traditional outfit like her jewelry and dress and moccasin. And if there is nothing to do she sits straight up quietly until told what to do. She cooks the food and serves everyone and eats whatever is left...but she cant eat anything sweet or salty or sour. So she eats lean meat with no fat or blue corn mush or any traditional foods. She also has to run every morning before the sun rises as far east as she can after that she faces east and prays and blesses herself from the ground to her feet and up to her head; she does this morning, afternoon, and evening. She cant talk back or complain or yell at anyone or anything. She cant laugh out and make stupid jokes. She cant eat red meat, she cant hit or strike with any part of her body, she cant touch the fire directly....so for 4 days she does these things and more because she is considered 'Holy'. Most people dont do these things anymore becuz they werent taught or didnt learn it. Yes the sunrise dance is sacred but what part is actually sacred nowadays? There are girls who do whatever they want for the 4 days after their first period, there are drugs and alcohol taken to these dances, most everyone goes to just be noticed there and eat but not spiritually support the girl, families dont listen to the medicine man when he is speaking but instead talk to each other and joke around and not sit quietly for a few minutes, others go to draw up business and take the attention away from the ceremony with junk food... One of my 5 younger sisters had a sunrise dance and she did her 4 day training and after a month of prep instead of the having it one the 4th day, we only had a one day sunrise dance out and away from town and had a group of family and friends who came to support her in any way with food, prayer, and kindness. We didnt want a flashy, big dance because as long as we had faith and prayer than everything was going to be alright. I do appreciate if you, yourself, keep things sacred on your part and in your family for those who need your support and prayers. Im sorry for putting in my couple cents of words but i would like to see how sunrise dances were way back when it was sacred to compare it to now.
awesome to see ,,,,,,other nations need to see who we were , im a ojibway from canada
im Navajo and aren't these ceremonies not supposed to be recorded?
+Daeyeon Kagamine yeah, unless they get permission from the elder or medicine man. if not! good luck for the recorder.
it can be recorded, the medicine will literally stop the ceremony at certain parts like the blessing of the crown dancers, any praying for the girl, this is just a small part of the week long ceremony
I saw the first apache dance in Westerns, Delmer Dave Douglas Sirk, George Sherman, who were smart enough to add them in their films to give it an authentic touch
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