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Thank you Robbie and Maryam. I thought this was an excellent discussion. I always have so many thoughts when I listen to these discussions that it is hard to articulate here. I generally feel very in the middle in society, often feeling overwhelmed from being surrounded on all sides by chaos. Some phrases which really struck me (I may misquote them). "All faiths believe in humanity" - yes, I think that humanity is a moral stance that every person should take. I am very much an athiest born into a society of christian culture, however it is clear from a variety of sources that the organism's desire to survive means that it wants positive outcomes in the world around it as suffering would not be beneficial. Therefore "healing is collective" is an application which I believe in rather than me and my closest over everybody else. This is probably the biggest mindset error that we lose when the world has less moral standing, when texts are removed from society, or manipulated to suit an ideal. I loved the ideas for training, there is a presentation based on this content which can be created for trainers, (if this is not that in itself). If we are to promote humanity, then there is a start of a unit here to propose on how we do this. We need to increase our own awareness, challenge our own biases and views. I dont think personally these conversations are felt to be safe, or able to be carried out safely in most training programmes. "fear they will get it wrong" - I think people are scared to talk about these things in training or the room. It reminds me of discussing suicidal ideation, which is accepted as being more beneficial to discuss than to not. So if "I recognise there is a difference" is an offering to break the ice and it is beneficial to use this type of phrase to broach an issue for the person, then literally everyone can use this phrase?? Finally "liberation psychology" - "coping vs healing" should be part of all diversity training. Ive never heard of it before.

Thank you so much for this conversation Ayel, Mick and John. I found this after watching the conversation with Orna, Ayel and Dwight. I'm a UK-based counsellor with a British Jewish mother and a Muslim Egyptian father. This year has been full of discomfort, inner conflict, avoidance, anger and everything in between. What's helped me more than anything is conversations like this from grounded individuals that speak to their own process. Thank you! 💙

Thank you Ben. I love that you did this. You have raised the topic of mental health into the minds of the population, and that is the reason why you stood up and took on this challenge. You should be proud of your efforts. It makes me think of Andrew Yang, who ran for the presidency of the US, who believes in an humanistic education system. It is important that mental health policy is stood up for politically as you have done.

I really enjoyed this conversation, but it felt like you were just getting into some key topics when time came to an end. I think it is such an important topic at present and it would be good to hear more unpicking of the psychology around the topic and critical discussion about what we can do as therapists. I have concerns about advocacy, in that I see young people apparently hurt by engaging in this very public political debate via social media and I worry in case it might not be benefical for them. Is it better for people on balance to be out and engaging with this debate as it is empowering, or is this potentially traumatic as some responses are terrible? Why is this debate in society so divisive and how can we help as therapists? I hope this topic will be revisited as it is such an important topic right now. Perhaps a number of voices in discussion as with the boarding school or visible/invisible faith episodes. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and time with us. It is a wonderful series. Therapy allows for this type of psychological contact and discussion around the biggest of issues.

I think I agreed with almost every word said. This is how I view living and how I view politics. I hate being in the middle watching all this. The psychology around the behaviours, particularly the impact of fear is, in my view, key to the polarisation we face.

Most incredible and rich discussion. A topic I have never been exposed to. I have been thinking about this and discussing it with people for days. Thank you for sharing and bringing this issue to our attention.

Wow! This was such an important conversation in the context of the series (so far - I am still far behind). I have been going backwards and forwards on this issue for a long time, but today I recognised the benefits of the approach of psychotherapists being congruent (as opposed to being neutral) in the room with their clients regarding controversial issues discussed in the later stages of the discussion. However, it is still problematic as wide application comes with caveats that need to be considered. Firstly, it would also have to be accepted that counsellors and psychotherapists can be political, and therefore secondly, that means we would need to accept that people can be (are) politically in the opposing camp. This would mean that they could also be felt as challenging from a opposing point of view, and cite their examples of their experiences. As a note I have left therapists before who i have felt were not on my page politicially (/ held stereotypes I found offensive) Overall, it does probably hint that there would be a greater risk of rupture within the relationship, on either side. This is fine in private practice, those who can afford to move can do so, but what about people took a big step coming to therapy and may not return, or if we are looking at government services, what might the impact of the rupture be. If it would not be right to discuss in an IAPT environment, then political exploration becomes more likely applied solely based on the context of which the therapy takes place in and the practitioner's belief system. As I say, I have shifted back and forth on this dilemma throughout your discussions, and it is so important to have this debate. When I started writing I felt like I agreed, now i'm less sure again. I will keep thinking about this. I propose that is what the therapist within the relationship must ensure that they are doing if they did implement the strategy (consider the impact on the overall, multi-dimensional process) when thinking about broaching with their clients. Thanks all 🙂

Am really enjoying this series of conversations. In each conversation I feel like you are discussing the things I have constantly thought about but rarely, if ever, heard said out loud. Lots to think about.

Excellent and very well argued

Absolute gold for me at 30 minutes +. "Existential philosophy is any philosophy that looks at ontology - the basic givens of human existence, the givens of being, and the givens of the universe, not just in the west but all over the world e.g. the socratics, the stoics, the buddhists, the taoists - they all shared common understandings. An existentialist is the name given to the thinkers from the 1900s - Sartre, Heidegger, De Bouvoir, Spinoza - very important post-war, but they are also of their time. We now live in time when we need a Copernican revolution. Copernicus determined that the earth moved around the sun not the sun around the earth, Galileo produced evidence to prove Copernicus wrong. We live in a time when we need another Copernican revolution - just as the earth isn’t the centre of the universe, we humans are not the centre of the world. We’re currently stuck in an anthropocentric humanist worldview in which we believe we can do with the earth and the universe what we want. That it’s all about competition and consumption and materialism. These things destroy the environment and in so doing ourselves. Rather than humans being at the centre, maybe the greatest learning of our time is to de-centre ourselves. This has large social and political implications, and it also has implications to our own personal relationships.

And one thing , as just a part of constructive feedback- the use of word « again » is a bit relentless. Every time you repeat the thought, which is great , as we only remember with repetition , but when you add « and again » it becomes too obviously repetitive .

It’s very interesting, thank you for this video. Loads of things to reflect on, can’t say I agree with fully everything though. For example, therapists holds power in the room. What do you mean exactly??

Really encouraging to hear this conversation, of 'faith' as an organic, evolving process and experience and the importance of enquiry and being curious, open to question and hearing other perspectives, of change as part of the human experience, of meeting and being met, relationship. The fundamentals of what I believe tobe therapy. Thank you

OMG I am so fascinated with Nick Totton’s work. His book ‘Politics of Psychotherapy” just resonate son profoundly where I am and feel right now. Thank you for this interview

'Pronouns she/her' 😂😂😂

What a rich and inspiring conversation to witness, thought provoking and encouraging despite the difficulties it highlights and opens out. Thank you

Thank you, Dr. Davies, for your work! I am from Austria, and here we have noone speaking out that truth. We need more of you! ❤

I stopped listening after 3 seconds when the opening speaker identified her pronouns as "she/her". What the hell has the "personal confession" or "proclamtion" or "statement" to do with the topic ? Nothing, for me, anyways. So. Byebye. Back to nature. Away from woke blubberish blablabla.

All the good MH professionals I know understand that the DSM is only a manual for dealing with insurance companies.

Great stuff. But I thought it was weird to say "the drugs aren't working as well as they did in the 80's". The drugs have gotten better (at least, they can do more, different things). Each drug does what it always did; It's not like we've developed herd immunity to them (Although they are in the water some places...). No, really it's your main claim that explains everything: people are more mentally ill than they used to be, because of the real world itself

This is so good. You guys are doing such important work by making this knowledge and understanding widely available. Thank you so much!

Great intro to Liberation Psychologies, alot to consider. In my opinion is compatible with Buddhist philosophy, very open minded and considerate of life in all it's complexities.

So much insight, thank you for sharing

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I'm not sure if there's going to be a *significant* change after July 4th even with a Labour government. Post-Starmer maybe but not while Starmer is at the helm.

I have to say, at face value, "integrating social activism into therapeutic practice" sounds like a truly terrible idea. Clients come to therapy for help and support and to feel safe being themselves. Bringing our own social views and opinions, or politics into it is the last thing any therapist should even want to do? I shudder at the mere thought of it, and the terrible implications that could arise from it, such as negative experiences for clients and damage to the reputation of the profession as a whole. As therapists we should serve all clients, not promote our own ideologies. And remember, not every therapist is going to share YOUR social and political beliefs and views, if this is the direction the profession moves in, then therapists who believe the opposite to what you do, will also come through that open door and bring their own views into their practice too. What ever happened to professionalism?

I have a lot of respect for Carl Rogers, but I don't understand why almost every training provider is stuck with his books as core reading materials, where a lot of other more recent authers are presenting the same concepts in a more comprehensive way.

You are all very inspiring, specially for someone like me, from the middle east currently living in the UK studying psychotherapy 🙏❤️

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Thanks for the great therapy insights, context and virtual session. I’m a scared father turned climate activist in the US , now facing prison time depending on jury verdict this August, who had to part with my wonderful therapist of 5 years because of their inability to support me in my new work.

Thank you for sharing, just listening now to Sally's personal story. I'm involved with LEAP panels we give valuable knowledge about social injustice

Names of community psychologists mentioned by Sally in this interview for further reading: Mark Burton, Carolyn Kagan, Jim Orford, David Smail, Carl Walker, David Fryer, Catherine Campbell, Flora Cornish

Can someone type out the name of the community psychologist mentioned at 3:30 please? I can't find him by searching in Google according to how I hear the name...

Thanks for turning on the captions!

Thanks for sharing this very helpful interview with Sally Zlotowitz

Great TaSC podcast on forming alliances in the CMHS

This is excellent 👌🏻 So helpful and shifting the way we work. Also you are delivering it in such genuine and non judgemental way. Thank you!

I am bored by these people.

By “eliminating extreme wealth with extreme taxes” I don’t think we will eliminate mental health problems . On the contrary they will increase on those selfish arrogant narcissistic people 😂(of course there are many exceptions but for the sake of the joke;))

I wish I could spend the rest of my lifetime in the presence of people as inspiring and brilliant as the two of you. Thanks so much for this ❤️

Interesting video, thank you . I am disabled, and this was happening when at collage training in counselling.

This discussion is so interesting as I Identify as a English/Iraqi man with Autism. I grew up from a Christian, Muslim background.

This is great, I'm huge fan of existentialism Philosophy Kierkegaards ideas of 'Angst towards his' idea of an individual leap of faith'. Thank you both for a great event.

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Great talk refreshing to have such honesty !

Great talk and Q&A. Thankfully it's not paywalled!

Lovely to see #TherapistsConnect co-lead discussing relational activism and what it means to fight for social justice... thanks for sharing this as open access video for everyone to watch.

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…As a German Biologist - this is about Domestication and Conditioning in the Techno Sphere. Erich Fromm stated in the 1950´s : “There is no Right Life in a Wrong Environment” We must get sick in such a synthetic non human world It takes intense Endurance and Inner Strength Training to de Condition and restore the Auto Pilot to install a strong strict severe Firewall against all Hijackers and Manipulators … or we rot in the GULAG…

Thanks, great talk!!!