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Ruger American bolt won't go back in...
"Addendum"! My fears about the light strikes were wrong, simply keep twisting the back end of the bolt around until it lines up again and NO vise needed! So your Ruger American bolt doesn't want to go back in because it's misaligned?! Here's your solution! Check out the AD Arms cocking piece on Anarchy Outdoors dot com too!
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Ruger American/Predator bolt disassembly the EASY way, with no special tools!
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How to disassemble Ruger American and Predator model bolts quick and easy for cleaning or to polish the bolt body without any special tools! Make SURE and put the screwdriver in where I show and NOT on the top side of the cocking piece or you risk BREAKING that cocking piece because of round injection mold lines that weaken the top of that part!
Your an angel! Thank you sir!!!
Thx
I've tried several times and I haven't been able to get it right, it's really much harder than the bolt action on my Tikka rifle, I don't know why Ruger makes things complicated...!!!
Pay CLOSE attention to the flat edges of the center collar on the firing pin so they stay flush with the flats on the firing pin back. They have to stay lined up perfectly.
Thanks for the tip! Thought I was having a serious problem
If you go to far to right will it make the bolt hard to lift once it's reinstalled?
shouldn't. Did you put something back in 180 degrees off?
My spring seems loose or something. When I turn it around it doesn’t snap back into place. Brand new never shot.
maybe I'm the only one still confused but about to throw this fucking bolt to the goddamn wall.. and I'm a pretty good gunsmith. I bet on my own things I remember my own things this fucking bolt something is not clicking in my head
Been sitting here for an hour working it back-and-forth couldn’t figure it out. Thank you so much!
Thank you! Appreciated the addendum as well. Super simple fix to an aggravating problem.
Thanks man! Excellent video.
Thanks. Wanted to upgrade my bolt handle and the cocking device is a NICE bonus. Did you change out the bolt shroud too ? The plastic ones are kinda cheap. Looking at an aluminum one from same company you got the cocking device
Yeah the plastic shrouds can break IF you manage to smack them just right. I replaced mine with the aluminum ones, but even at that Ruger will freely replace the shroud if it breaks on you, or any other parts for that matter. Best customer service I've ever seen in the industry among the countless accounts I've heard in online forums.
Is it counter clock if the bolt is left handed?
I'm gonna say that's unlikely. The handle is probably inserted in the bolt in the opposite direction 180° through the hole, to simplify production and machining if you follow. But I could be wrong?!
U don't need a vice to do it..get enough parachord...make a loop..use your feet in one end of the chord...put the other end on that mim part...pull and turn..easy as hell...
What happens if your screw driver pops out and you lose the gap?? Sitting here for 3 hours trying to fix it
Use the "spring compressor" Ruger gave you! 😁 If you slide the bolt handle up over the firing pin there's a round collar with tabs sticking out, where it normally sits. Rotate the handle so it locks into that collar and press the whole thing down onto a block of wood so you don't screw up the tip of the firing pin. Helps if you drill a shallow hole partway into the wood to press the pin into so it doesn't get squirrely. Then just twist the firing pin backer so it's square with the handle collar and slip the screwdriver back in.
thank you, just spent twenty minutes before I found this video
Big help Brother! Thanks for the simple solution for those who didn't know! 🇺🇸👍
Nice video mate 👍 Thanks for sharing.
Huge help! Thank you for this👍🏻
You fuking saved the day brooo!! Thanks
Soooo, how do youn replace the new unit?
You mean the new firing pin back? Once you pull the firing pin assembly you drill a hole part way into a scrap 2x4 block of wood big enough that the front of the firing pin will fit in. Then use a "roll pin punch" (specificly! Not just a plain punch!) to drive the roll pin out of the firing pin back so the pin back can unscrew. Screw the new one on using the hole in the wood block and to make things easier slide the bolt handle over it to compress the firing pin spring. Hammer in a new roll pin and you're on the home stretch.
Thanks for the video ! Got a little nervous, so I actually kept rotating clockwise until it was back to where it is supposed to be. Should I pull it back and go counter clockwise back to the original position ? Or should I be okay ? I’m questioning it after you stating that the spring or screw can loosen up
There's a split pin in rear of the firing pin back that locks everything to keep it from unscrewing, so it's fine.
Thank you young man, the way you show thing and explain, EXCELLENT !!! I went back a few times to get my alignment right, and you solved my problem .... Thanks again !!
Thankyou!!!!!
What a life saver this video was. Thanks for making it
With as old as this video is, I don't know if you'll ever see my comment...can you do a video on replacing the cocking piece/firing pin? Please? Or direct me to one?
A new video is actually in the works once I get a minute. Anarchy Outdoors sent me their bolt tool, an AD arms cocking piece and new bolt handle right before hunting season and was planning on filming while I was hunting, until I forgot to pack the SD card for the Canon... 🙄 I've been pretty swamped since I got back. The Ruger American bolt is actually pretty much identical to the Ruger Precision in function, just has a nicer bolt shroud. You'll NEED a "roll pin punch" to drift out the roll pin in the cocking piece, as it has a specially shaped tip to stay centered and not mangle the roll pin. I forget the exact size off hand. ua-cam.com/video/4e8u3agMsfo/v-deo.htmlsi=owSrwjRKbQ184Umb&t=196
Thank you, useful video and It helped me figure out what was wrong with my Rifle!
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve needed this video throughout the last two years, you’re a gentle and scholar sir. Thank you so much
At least I’m not the only one that has done this 🤦♂️
I did it with a brand new American following the instructions in the manual just for practice. My fault. You're not alone brother.
Same here! Brand new American Gen 2. Found this video very useful but was worried about damage using tools. So I got a piece of synthetic rope, made a loop, hooked to it and held the ends under my foot - I could use 2 hands to pull and rotate, plus no surface damage. 😀
Over rotated mine. Thank you for explaining how to correct!!! 2:10
Thanks man
So here goes! I bought the Anarchy firing pin removal tool. It did not come with instructions. No problem, I went to their website and to UA-cam to watch before starting. The guy from Anarchy knew what he was doing and by his own words, it was easy because he had done it so many times. I believe him as he knocked it out with no problem. The problem is for those who want to watch "close-ups," to explain and show us the steps. Many years ago before I changed career paths in school, I was a Xerox technician. I say this to give a background in my technical ability. My first time taking it apart with the tool, the firing spring released. The Anarchy video was of no help as his hands were covering the bolt as to where to line things up. Then I found your video and the problem was solved! GREAT JOB! Maybe they should give you a stipend. My thoughts are this. If you are going to sell a product as a business, you should provide the best instructions. It is a good tool and the guy knows his stuff. However, most of us are looking for an instructor to go with the product. On a side note, I found a block of soft pine and used an anti-slip pad from the kitchen underneath the wood. I used the bolt handle to push down on the spring into the wood. The firing pin went into the wood till it it the thicker part of the pin, and stopped. The wood is soft enough so you do not damage the pin. The anti-slip pad is a MUST to keep the wood from kicking out under the pressure compressing the spring. Now back to my point,.........Thank you for such a nice video! When I did my second Ruger it was a breeze and I did not release the spring this time. :)
LOL I'll be sure to share this with the guys from Anarchy.
I think the phrase is "the devil's in the details" right?
Exactly!@@macgyver5108
Perfect! I am sure they are great guys and they make nice products. Like you, if we can help someone else out we are all winners working together.@@macgyver5108
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I changed the bolt handle and got it together but now closing and opening the action is very stiff. Did i do something wrong? It takes like twice the force compared to before.
Edit* after taking the firing pin out another time I didn't see anything wrong, I neglected to check clearances on the new bolt handle and the new stock I put on the barrel and action. I just ended up sanding down the edge of the stock and bolt handle that was touching and it's smooth as butter again.
Thank you so much. I was scared for a moment and thought I had to go get it looked at.
If your screwdriver slips out you can seperate the two and start again by using an adjustable wrench to force the spring down. Put the firing pin ontop cardboard as you forced it down.
Or just use the tool Ruger gave you, the bolt handle...
Thank you for the help, good sir. Quick question for you. I was able to follow your instructions and get the bolt reinserted, but now I can't get the trigger to cock and fire. Any ideas as to how I could correct that? Thanks!
A bit hard to diagnose without _seeing_ the interaction of your parts but... The trigger/sear engages with the bolt/cocking piece by catching the front leading edge of the cocking piece tang on the trigger sear as you rotate the bolt closed. If the trigger sear doesn't stick up high enough into the rear of the action, no engagement, no cocking. Could also be an issue with the collar that holds the firing pin spring, if that was misaligned during reassembly it can't catch to cock the pin either.
Ruger provides a "tool" to recock the spring if it slipped out of alignment with the collar, just use the bolt handle by itself!😁 Slide the bare bolt handle over the collar on the firing pin spring and using a scrap of wood to protect the tip of the firing pin, tension the spring with the bolt handle to line up the parts correctly again.
@@macgyver5108 even though you were already very thorough, could you break this down again for me? Slide the bare bolt handle over the collar on the firing pin? Thanks again for all the help!
@@corndogegan look at an exploded diagram of the bolt and visualize where the handle sits on the firing pin assembly, it slides inline with the pin in one 🕐 clock angle along the axis, but if you rotate the handle it engages on some lobes/ears on the rear collar behind the spring allowing the collar to push the spring forwards and compress it. Follow?
@@corndogegan I suppose I _could_ make a video if push comes to shove, when I get a moment...
how do you change out the cocking piece from the MIM part to the AD arm model? are there any detailed videos? thanks
Yes, there's specific videos that detail that very well already. Use a "roll pin punch" not just any punch to knock out the roll pin on the pin back, unscrew the pin back while holding down the bolt handle against the firing pin assembly onto a board/wood and screw the new pin back on.
ua-cam.com/video/4e8u3agMsfo/v-deo.html
The Ruger American and Precision bolts are practically identical in most regards, except for certain things on the 2nd version of the precision bolts.
Wish you would do it with the cap off
Can you show a little more detail on what you're actually prying on with a screwdriver? The removal it gets blurry and it can't tell how you're pulling it out
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Got to tell , I'm sure speak for multitudes that did same ,same. Had taken bolt out to work on gun...and some how it clicked...heard it , but didn't realize what had clicked/happen. We image, friend of mine did it...GUN BRAND NEW hadn't even shot it yet , thou we kept calm and between our two minds "fixed" actually exactly how you figured out and or did. That night...found /noticed / plundering ect on utube "Ruger American " found yours. It got me questioning if I'd done it right , took back apart , back track how we cured and we actually did it correctly. Let me tell ya...now truth be known this is my 3rd Ruger American first Predator... Sighted in this morning, 3 shoots had it on the money , then put 3 rounds on 3rd sighted round...it heard group GREAT and that my friends is why most ALL love a Ruger American Rifle...Imo one of the very best inexpensive, entry~level hunting rifle made. I bought a Savage Axis2 pre deer season 2022, and was NOT happy with it. I had tried to find a Predator but at time all were out stock ...least by my sources. Finally in past few weeks The Predator became abundant again. I'm so glad I dumped that Savage and got a Ruger again, this one I'm gonna do ALL the mod tricks to and keep to be my last 🦌 rifle. WE ALL appreciate your time and sharing ya knowledge with US. THANK YA Sir!
Go Ruger, or go home sad...😉
Thank you!!
My question is why is this even an option
Meaning? Why can you accidentally rotate the back of the bolt? It's not exactly an "option", it's a _lack_ of an additional option to keep it from happening and last I checked most options cost money... And this is a budget rifle.
@@macgyver5108 I stored my rifle for a couple months and when I went to go use it the bolt was twisted. You saved me a headache and alot of money
@@JonRangel87 what I like to hear man, glad I could help!
Great video. Does changing cocking piece smooth out the actual cocking. My rifle is smooth but is somewhat stiff when raising and lowering bolt. Made the mistake of playing with a Weatherby rifle at Cabelas. It cocked so effortlessly that since then I have been wondering if there is anything I can do to make my Predator work any way closer to that.
Thanks Rose! And yes it does indeed! If you look at the AD cocking peice in the video, the front rides against some 45° angled "ramps" on the back of the bolt body. Because the AD part has a much smoother surface it slides over those much easier as the rifle is cocked. Something else that can help is adding a little molybdenum disulfide powder or Moly based grease to those 'ramps' and working that into the metal. Moly embeds into metal fairly permanently and it's SUPER slippery stuff! It's mostly used used for packing high speed bearings, like axle bearings ETC. It can be spendy stuff, I use Krytox by Chemours GPL 215 EP Grease which can run $30 for a little tube, but it lasts forever and also works great on the trigger sears too, to smooth out and lighten the trigger pull. A new bolt handle can also help out a LOT by giving you better leverage. The only drawback of a bolt that opens easy is it opens easy... like when you're out hunting the bolt can barely bump open a _"hair"_ and the rifle won't fire! Get in the habit of palming down the bolt handle every time you fire as a routine though and problem solved.
On your other video I made I comment. I figured it out, got some outside help, big help, thank you so much!
Thank you!
No worries, glad I could help. Honestly I just got tired of using a "written description" of the process in our Ruger American group... so I shot a video one day at like 3 in the morning!😁
What about if you removed the screwdriver before reassembly, how would you bring it back to the point where you can slide the firing pin and cocking assembly into the bolt carrier
Oh boy... Did you end up in that predicament? Do you have a scrap block of wood and a drill? ua-cam.com/video/ILLa_iEEOl8/v-deo.html
@@macgyver5108 yes, so I have the screw driver in and there is now no play to where I can manipulate the firing pin and cocking piece. Ik I'm doing something wrong
excellent camera work on this, best I've seen. Thanks
Thanks, took me a few takes! One thing that drives me _nuts_ is videos posted that either aren't in focus or worse way out of frame for key moments.
Do they make a metal shroud to replace the crap plastic one?
_INDEED THEY DO!_ Check out the anarchy outdoors website under Ruger American/Precision rifle parts, the RPR has the same bolt body as the American rifle line.
www.anarchyoutdoors.com/bolt-shroud-replacement-for-the-ruger-american-rifle/
@@macgyver5108 awsome! Hopefully ITAR allows for shipping here
@@macgyver5108 I just looked and they use a Canadian distributor, Go Big Tactical
@@juliogonzo2718 fantastic! Hope that works out for you and while you're at it I'd highly recommend that firing pin backing piece from AD Arms for not only reliability sake but also a _much_ smoother and lower trigger pull!
Excellent....I have been having difficulty chambering a round without having to almost slam the bolt home in my RAR 300 blk....seems the ejector may not be allowed past the rim of the cartridge without doing so...I figured the bolt should be dissembled and cleaned, so we'll see what happens....thanks much!!!
What kind of marks are on the brass afterwards? Being rough to chamber I'd expect to see some tell tales on the brass rim. Was it always this way or is this a new development?
@@macgyver5108 Hello......yes, I looked at the brass carefully, and like you, I expected a swipe mark or some sort of dent in the rim or something due to the amount of force I was using to chamber a round, but there is nothing obvious. I have not used the gun much after buying it new several years ago due to some health problems, and when I did hunt, I was using my 450 BM RAR and or my 308 or 7mm-08. In preparation for a hog hunt coming up, a friend and I were sighting in and working up some loads, and I thought finally, I will drag out the RAR 300 blk.....the bolt was sticky straight out of the box, but I watched a video by Iraqveteran8888, and they had the same problem....I figured it would work out. Again, I had put it up for some time. I wrote Ruger and asked about the problem, and they have advised me to ship them the gun for inspection....perhaps this has happened before with some of the guns from a few years ago....guess I will crate it up and we will find out......thanks
@@George1mac well it does occasionally happen, that things end up out of spec by a hair. Ruger's unheard-of customer service is why they're my preferred budget bolt action company! They'll make it right...
Well done video.
Thank you Sir...
Bro thank you soo much I feel soo dumb