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Even though its been a month. I would like to say I am still very attracted to Aphrodite in that animation if god games holy shi-

may i ask what software or website you used???

Most f******* version of Aphrodite I've ever seen

Let me tell you.. Revenge changes you, it can make you regret more than doing nothing, but sometimes vengeance is appropriate.

Waiting will never fail to make me cry, the fact that its his real mom dose not help😢

During the livestream for this at the start of dangerous, I was subconsciously filling in the crew parts so when the silence hit I was just like "make it back... alive... to our homeland? Wait, where's the- oh. Holy shit that's heavy."

To me, the Duvetbox rendition of Athena looks a lot like Eda from The Owl House! Which could be a fun nod to the possibility of Eda having Athena influences in her!

Poseidon in this animatic is the embodiment of "If evil, why hot?"

That choral moment at the beginning of 600 Strike that resembles the chant of "PO-LY-PHE-MUS" *is* the danger motif. He uses it SO many times and I'm sure I've only found a couple dozen. Also, I found it interesting that the lines from "I don't think you seem to get it/ I can't afford to die" hearken back to Little Wolf- "You've made your worst mistake here/ Might be your last one too."

"Put something riveting up here." (Puts the act of riveting onscreen) I WHEEZED for a solid minute there.

Your pal said "Aeolus is just a fae turned into a god, change my mind." My counter-argument is that fae are gods who have been "demoted" by Humankind.

Not so fun fact because it hurts more, but Odysseus's mom is sung bu jorge's mom, and neither of them could get through their whole set of lyrics without crying. Because fuck.

The viola and the end of not sorry for loving you sounded like the strings in the song puppeteer when second in command came back and I wonder if it was because even in the song callypso was still somewhat manipulative in the song with lines like "I'm sorry my love is too much for you"

There are two wolves in me, one sings 'You ... monsteeeeeer" and the other sings "Told me to close my heart" ... neither can live while the other survives. 😅 On a more serious note, I have loved listening to you do your analysis vids, and I'm glad you're now able to do this on a second go-around instead of doing it off the cuff as a first reaction like at the start. I like that you've had the time to listen and gather your thoughts. You also mentioned recs for future videos, and Starkid have released a longer version of VHS Christmas Carol, called VHS Christmas Carols. Might be a fun December video.

Honesty, it's just brilliant and frankly _chilling_ how Dangerous uses the instrumentation and the broken call and response to simultaneously call back to Full Speed Ahead, and yet contrast the difference in Odysseus' situation.

When the wind bag is opened, you can also hear the Winions sing, "Full Speed Ahead!"

1. Actually, a thing you may have missed in Dangerous is that when 20:40 plays, it’s the same exact melody as Thunderbringer, which I can interpret in two ways. A. Hermes was sent by order of Zeus, as in the original Odyssey or, (and I’m betting on this one) B. This is what I’m gonna call the “Divine Intervention” Motif, where a God fully involves themselves in the matters of mortals “for the heck of it” 2. Not sure if it was the case because Jay confirmed in the behind the scenes that Hermes has the lyre because he invented it. It’s implied that during the 7 year time skip, Hermes offers his lyre to Apollo which is why Apollo has the lyre in God Games and in Dangerous, he no longer has the iconic lyre sounds, but fully leans into the funky 80s retro. Light string instruments like harps are there to compensate, but it’s a different instrument from the one he used in Wouldn’t You Like. 3. Funny you mentioned the Star Wars reference. Many reactors have been comparing Charybdis to the Sarlacc pit or even Shia Hulud from Dune 4. It’s been 20 years. Jay made the 12 year mistake, so I’ll headcanon it so it’s smooth 10 years of war in Troy 2 years stranded on Circe’s Island after Ruthlessness 7 year timeskip since Thunder Bringer Extra time spent doing Miscellaneous stuff (I.e. 9 days awake in Keep Your Friends Close, Odysseus passed out for an undisclosed amount of time in Mutiny) 5. In Dangerous, Odysseus says “I’ll use every trick in my domain for this”. Notice in “Get in the Water”, Odysseus starts with Kindness (Pleading for Mercy, Asking Poseidon to Forgive), and by “Six Hundred Strike”, he uses Intelligence (Wind Bag Shenanigans, Figuring out the godly nature of his gifts such as windbag and Poseidon’s Trident) and finally, Ruthlessness ( Stabby fork time) 6. Spot on. Remember that mortals cannot summon choirs of diegetic ensemble singers. In Dangerous, Hermes says “no mortal can pass Poseidon’s storm”. Theories suggest that Odysseus “died” at the end of Get in the Water and was reborn as the monster in Six Hundred Strike. You can say he’s “No Longer You” anyway, main point here is, as the monster, he no longer is mortal and can summon diegetic choirs at will. That’s all I could catch, always happy to help and I enjoy your reactions!

When you mention that the music reverses by the end of Charybdis, the image of water receding just before a tsunami came to my mind. It's like a musical representation of the moment just before shit hits the fan.

Another thing to point out at the beginning of Dangerous vs. Full Speed Ahead is that Ody's goal wasn't matched with his men. They wanted to make it back alive to the homeland --and yes, Ody wanted that too-- but specifically his goal was to make it back to his wife, his family at any cost, including the cost of his men. The difference in goal is echoed in the silence where his men would have been singing.

I can tell from the beginning Dangerous being your top 5 song 😂

Life may have duties but personally I need to sit down at the tavern for an hour to listen to a funky bard explain good songs

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the "next to my wife" hits so hard

He’s got a Lechonk on his shoulder 😂😂😂

Calypso is not a innocent person maybe naive but not innocent but she can be pity’d enough for Odysseus to lie and say “I love you” but not enough to lie and say it’s anything deeper than pity

3:04 Pika-zeus?

My favourite part of vengeance saga reactions is peoples opinions on Calypso. Theres a completely mixed bag of how they view her and this really helps demonstrate Jorge's writing and musical talent. Some people see her as immoral whilst other feel she didn't and these contrast in opinions are my favourite part of character in EPIC and the Odyssey.

"I hear Athena's theme, is she gonna be in here?" Athena's smoldering corpse: (before anyone says gods cant die, they can. Theyre just impervious to like, 99% of things. Other gods, especially zeus are very much in the 1% and she never returns in the last arc, she dead.)

(My Headcanon for hearing Athena’s theme is that she’s just sat on the beach in ithica watching the fight. or hanging with Telemachus, and her ego has such a large radius it’s encroaching to the ocean

Fun fact. At 4:23 the “cause I had one goal in mind” followed by the pause: at other points in the musical, when he says that, the crew are the ones who responded “to make it back to our homeland” but now they can’t

We do not feel bad for Calypso 💪 (We love Wangui though!!) edit: for those unaware, Barbara Wangui is Calypso's actress/VA.

people who symphatise with Calypso forget that Odysseus is a married man

Viola In the context of the end of Charybdis is the reference of Penelope, as the Viola is her instrument

I love how the background vocals for each of the gods are usually other voices, but Hermes's is just more of his own voice Edit: and the winions later

Something someone else pointed out to me- Calypso's backsups are just her and Ody because those are the only voices she knows.

now react to hermes and jay season 2

Theory: Athena put Ody into a really powerful quick-thought when Poseidon was trying to throw a trident at him I mean, did you SEE how long he was suspended there? Or it was Ares doing his version of quick-thought as Ody did have red eyes…

Calypso is just that one gaslighter that probably doesn’t even realize they’re gaslighting anyone. They just have terrible social skills and don’t realized how people work… But specifically the Epic: The Musical Calypso; the other Calypsos are… questionable, in almost every other form of literature.

Instead of being spammy and writing different comments with each though, Ill just separate them by song here in one this time. Incoming "Wall of Text™" xD 31: Love in paradise and Not sorry for loving you are a masterclass in writing emotional manipulation, and the fan divide on Epic Calypso is proof of it. Shes not sorry for what happened, shes sorry that he didn't give in. She ignored his pleas and tried to force him into a relationship even after being told no for years. In the end when she has to see him off, she hits him with "Im sorry my love was too much for you" as though it was his fault that things were bad on her island. She says "I wish you would lie and say 'i love you'" meaning she knew the whole time he didn't care about her and was still trying. then trows a tantrum when he says that he doesn't feel the same way about her, like "Why wont you just love me back 'married man trapped in my divine prison cell with me" Yet there are people who defend Calypso as just a hopeless romantic, lovestruck with the first man she meets and that she really was the victim after she was placed on Ogygia. Its manipulation so cleanly delivered that it even manipulated the fans into believing her! *chefs kiss* beautiful instrumentals, beautiful voice, beautiful writing. A+ song 32: The silence where the call and response should go for the Full speed ahead reprise hits so hard Verse 2 of Dangerous is my single favourite verse in Epic, and I don't even know specifically why, but I vibe with it so much. "First stop, uncharted waters" I love gwendys animation, I love everything about it, it is perfect and Hermes throwing it back is canon now. Mom: Odysseus' dead mom, one of the most emotional scenes in epic. Dad: an actual god. Sister: Idk... an unvoiced winion that makes some squeaks in the background I guess, now get out of my room or I'm calling mom! Unrelated to the song itself, I could not stop laughing during the live stream because the only thing I could think of was David Hassehoff's "True Survivor" and imagining Ody having to fight Nazis and dinosaurs with guns while sailing on his raft haha. 80's Synthwave is such a vibe 33: I believe its 5/4, an odd signature to match Ody's odd encounters of the mythic kind Not much to say here, its a cool song, probably B or C tier though. Ill lock in B tier because its an uncommon Odysseus W in a long series of losses and melancholy, and we don't get a lot of triumphant songs in Trauma: The Musical 34: Get. in. the. water. S tier. Next (though we do get the penultimate Tiresius prophecy here, the man Odysseus was before takes his final breath here, fully embracing the new man he needs to become) 35: I have the power of god AND anime on my side! AAAAHHH Jay is such an anime nerd. Ody calls on the power of (dead) friendship to beat Posiedon I love it, I cant wait to see what the community does for this song Posiedons screams are so well delivered its chilling. I also saw someone theorize that his screams are harmonized because they sound like music to Odysseus' ears "next to my wife" is one of the coldest one liners I've ever heard. high A tier. Wasnt a huge fan of the first half, but holy shit did the second half bring it back around.

I was sure this was gonna be my favorite saga before it came out. It did not disappoint, but I fear I’ve underestimated how much I love other sagas!

The little wing person in the corner was right I feel, Ody started in Get in the Water with Open Arms, trying to let Poseidon let things end and move on, and when he didn’t take that option he chose Ruthlessness

I loved this saga and can’t wait to see all the interpretations of it.

The viola is in the end of Charybdis because it's Penelope's instrument!

No Charybdis was not sent by Poseidon, and while in some story telling the monster is said to be his daughter this is most likely not the case in this story. The other telling is that Charybdis takes a sip of water 3 times a day on a set time, not really targeting boats specifically but it ends up destroying a few anyways. Ody happened to be sailing by, during one of it's feedings.

Odysseus gave him the kratos treatment

2:36 i don't. Fuck calypso and her toxicity. The whole song is her trying to gaslight Odysseus into believing it was his fault.

9:55 I’m surprised no one made connection to Poseidons face smiling in the water

The ending of 600 strike makes me cry. Hearing the pain in both Ody and Poseidon's lines is just gut wrenching. I want to know how 600 strikes works with the background vocals with Ody being human or what is going on there when Jorge can explain it!

At least Calypso got to meet her nephew (Hermes) before she was left alone forever