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Hi Fiona, the patients pay for surgery, then are reimbursed by the Irish government. I'm unsure whether Australia has a similar program, but it would likely be worth looking into! -Dom

@SecondStreetOrg thanks 😊

I'm glad that you're one of the lucky ones, but there are thousands of Canadians dying on waitlists, surgical wait times are growing every year, etc. -Dom

@SecondStreetOrg nice try exaggerating. Not buying that BS. Poor you.

You must be living in some alternate reality. 😂😂😂

@JoshuaRayHarvey 😅🤣😅🤣

The video says nothing about pushing private insurance on Canadians. The whole point of the video is to examine how to improve our universal system. We encourage you to watch it.

It doesn't. It's a scam.

@ oh I see. Well I’m a moron that does largely unskilled tech work so I kind of deserve to be homeless anyway. Certainly don’t deserve anything I already have that’s for sure.

Thank you very much for the kind words! Appreciate you helping to spread the word.

The ugly secret is the Health administration consciously knows damn well they *could* contract it out for far less than their bureaucracy-mired departments can provide it, and on a incomparably better timeline. Maybe the simplicity of making it someone else's problem for a mere fee - rather than a 5-7 year fight to "plan" and another 5y to "construct and outfit" will attract more support of the case workers and low level admins and the political side can reach across to them? The problem is the middle and upper administration who make careers out of that dragged on procrastination. It's literally criminal in hundreds of applications. Possibly the political parties making it a political football, too. Here in Edmonton they appear to plan to run 1/3 of the city without reasonable access to a hospital, with the stoppage of the Ellerslie Road hospital. That *could* have been less than a year away from use if the plan had been followed. The "PPP tower clinic" that was supposed to replace Ericksen Nissan is apparently shelved, too. Punishing Edmonton for how they vote? Part of me fervently hopes so, despite living here. Such idiots, such evil. Look at the stupidity of closing schools in the Edmonton core just as waves of immigrants to those areas start having medium to large families. There are daycares on literally every block, but do you think the school board can maintain schools in those areas? Nope, one after another being closed. And bulldozed and turned to.. parks!? The difference, the daycares are private and un-unionized... the school board union is a literal monster and the government does its share to prevent "school service" from being offered. Pretty much as perfect a case study as the North and South Korea lights-at-night meme.

2nd Street has another excellent but longer video on how healthcare services could be improved. Right now (at least in BC where more than 1M people don't have a Dr.) funding here is based on Bulk (may be the wrong term) funding so the hospitals receive a specific amount of $'s for the year but other western countries with a mix of private and publicly funded hospitals operate on an activities based funding (ie.the number of surgeries etc. that are performed). Canada is apparently the only country with exclusive universal healthcare (no private) other than N. Korea. All of the other countries have a combo of universal and private healthcare without it costing more $'s because they operate more efficiently. Plus people get the care they need when they need it because there aren't excessive wait lists which can ultimately end up costing more tax $'s because people can end up on disability, welfare etc. which also has costs. No other country (at least western countries) look at Canada as an example of the type of healthcare system they want to implement....just my opinion! Oh yes and of course politicians, judges, federal prisoners and more, are exempt from having to be on a wait list, they get their healthcare when they need it!

My wife was put on a waiting list for hip surgery after being on physio therapy for a year that Alberta health care wouldn't pay for . So rather than waiting another year or so in deep pain , we decided to procure the procedure in a private clinic . We live in Edmonton so we were forced to go to Toronto even though there was a private clinic in Calgary. This cost us an extra 6k , in hotels , airfair and meals , total bill 34,000.00 which Alberta health care reimbursed us 1,300.00 dollars. Thank God we could afford this to end my wife's suffering.

@@brianmorton2171 Just curious ... what was the $1300 reimbursement for?

@@brianmorton2171 I believe most people in Canada think we have universal healthcare (ie. 1 tier system) when the reality is that we actually already have a 2 tier system that basically operates on whether or not you have "money" or you don't. If you have the $'s, you can afford to get the healthcare you need outside of our basic healthcare system but even that part is convoluted. If you live in Quebec, you can get private healthcare that you pay for within the province (they have some legal/Gov. provision that allows for that) so unlike you, who had to pay all those extra expenses to get the medical help you needed, you had to go out of province which I believe is true for every province except Quebec. I think this is absolutely wrong and my perception is many Canadians aren't even aware of this discrepancy. I'm glad to hear that you did get the healthcare needed for your wife, albeit at such a financial cost to yourselves and I just hope that if I was ever in a similar situation I would have the $'s to pay for it as well. However, in the interim, our tax dollar's, which are not insignificant, are being paid into a system that is seriously flawed....just my opinion!

Right. So just as there is monetary arbitrage, there is labour arbitrage (the deindustrialization of the West). This is medical services arbitrage, and needs to work on that basis. You have to realize Ireland has the EU's highest standard of living (some competition from Switzerland is now eclipsed, Monaco and one of the Benelux countries may still exceed them). Therefore, any country they are going to has a lower cost. That's kind of key to this working. You hear it about tourist dentistry to Mexico. Also cosmetic surgery, though I don't "run in those circles" myself. So, Mexico is very much an option. US just isn't, that I can see. Large areas of Europe would be possible, maybe more so for Canadians with connections to there, or if a business plan was made. At one point about 25years ago, Italy had the highest number of doctors per capita in the world. However an international flight is a very far cry in cost, from a day bus. A decade or two ago Cuba was being presented as a possibility, but I tend to wholly believe reports it is a country in collapse. I believe there is some province to province swapping between Alberta and Saskatchewan, but don't know the details.

two more thoughts: Not sure if links are allowed in YT comments, so I'll cut and paste. The facility they are going to is: "Kingsbridge Private Hospital [...] a private hospital on the Lisburn Road, Belfast, Northern Ireland. It is owned by Kingsbridge Healthcare Group, the largest provider of private healthcare in Northern Ireland." So the big difference that SecondStreet regard as a "3rd rail" to explicitly discuss, is that the governments have to get over the fear of "privatization" that has been propagandized into a cross section of Canadian citizens- that section I will call out as a mix of idiots and pure evil, and I treat them as such. So the question is, why not allow the money to stay in Canada, by building private facilities, employing Canadian workers right from those who lay the concrete foundations during construction, to all the staff, to, well... gosh I'm going to blurt it out: the *owners* of the hospital. I can tell you why not: because the far left idiots would rather cut off their nose to spite their face and not admit their failed life paradigm, and to thus drag everyone down with them, spitefully and full of hate for those who see the truth. The other thought is North Dakota and Montana are mentioned. The US system, every bit as flawed if not moreso, is closing down rural hospitals at a huge rate. It's consolidation of the industry- driven by legalities, insurance group coverage, population stagnation or loss in the so called "flyover states" (and Illinois), and so many other things I may not be informed in detail of. Perhaps there *is* a struggling regional health company there that we Canadians could throw a lifeline to? That would be win/win in that local folks could as a side benefit retain *their* access to local hospitals due to the influx of new revenue. Not near as good as building our own, but as long as we keep retaining the "cut the nose off to spite the face" clique as a dominant voting block, it is the best step forward. Which provincial government will take the step?

I don't have enough time to watch all of this, but I bet this video is going to hint at merely travelling from one province to the next. Yes, that won't work, but it does help the provincial premiers pretend that the Canada Health Act (and its portability clauses) don't exist. Second Street always pushes privatization at some point

It would be a Miracle if they did this