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did the new engine smoke correctly?

A great looking model, but the BLI sound is not so good compared to TCS or Soundtraxx. And there it is, the smoke comes out from under the boiler. NG. I see this in lots of reviews.

Had a similar issue with a diesel Loco from them. Overfilling or bubbles can do this. Or just a bad fan

A very good review, do you watch " Sam's trains" a UK reviewer, ? This is very similar, well done like your attitude and filming.

Aw man no sound of the whistle?

Looks awesome

I don't think I'd ever own a BLI locomotive as they are too expensive for an old retired guy on a fixed income. Besides I only do DC and not set up for DCC or sound. Personally, I do not like the sound of HO DCC as it sounds so tinny. Sound is a lot better in O gauge and upwards like G gauge. The BLI engines do have fantastic detail, but I was wondering if they are handled too much that the tiny parts would start falling off. Cheers from eastern TN

Beautiful looking steamer but I wouldn't take a chance on BLI for fear of inconsistent quality control. So I'll stick with Kato, Walthers, Athearn, Atlas, and Hornby.

meh, really don't care about smoke...

I like it. I'm going to look for one at the upcoming show. Nice.

I don't get why people get so hung up on firebox flicker/glow. It's not something you'd ever see unless you were in the cab.

Ive got to ask, but realistically, what other options are their for locomotives like this E6 on the market, other than brass models?

I'd rather pay for a 40 year old rivarossi, then by one of these things..they were built to last, no way this new stuff lasts that long..to many electronics to fail..

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There smoke units sucks....aways had issues with them...bet it's blowing smoke on the inside the boiler shell....leaving smoke residue on the engine board that causes a short to blow out the decoder....found that out the hard way..

I have a loco like yours from them and it does the same thing

I can't imagine paying $500 for smoke... It's a great looking, sounding, and running model. Besides, adjust some CVs. This is pretty dramatic over nothing.

I have 3 BLIs w smoke. I always run out of the box for a while then add smoke oil. Most importantly need to blow few puffs of air to clear any bubbles after adding smoke. Always adjust the CV and increase fan speed to shoot smoke higher away from unit. You can also adjust CV on how hot the unit runs.

No you paid 500 dollars for the engine and the paragon 4 includes

I’ve seen on certain models the smoke unit will get hot enough to melt the shell so if I had one I just wouldn’t use the smoke other than that the models are great

i wonder what boilers and other parts of the more demanding systems of a steam engine could me made of so they would be a lot less man hour intensive in modern times as im sure boilers could be made a lot better now.

Y’know…I wonder how the performance of the smoke would play out if the model had smoke deflectors, to channel it up and not around the loco smokebox

i have seen issues like this from practically every big manufacturer these days, hornby, bachmann(these are the worst), BLI etc... ive even seen issues with ones from MTH which were supposed to be the good manufacturer lol, send it to BLI's headquarters and they will fix it for free, otherwise just turn it off

Why, if there is sound from the loco didn't you just speak it instead of making us read the review ?!

Some smoke is better than no smoke and if there's to much smoke, the neighbors will complain.

You are having this smoke problem because there is too much smoke fluid in the unit. Seeing smoke come out of the bottom of the boiler occurs because there is a bubble in the smokestack. This is caused by the high fluid volume, just blow in the stack and smoke will come out. Run the engine for a bit and this heavy smoke problem will go away and look more realistic. Submitted respectfully.

Howzit : Quite frankly; I would prefer a voice-over / narration than brief text-flashes that require reading ( WHEN you can actually see the text as there is limited colour-contrast with the background ); this whilst you are demonstrating the very topic / query as being raised in the text itself. Regards / John

I'm disappointed anyone is using those oil-based smoke machines in the first place. You've GOT to check out what a guy in Wales is doing recently- ultrasonic steam effects that make SCALE looking smoke that is perfectly synchronized, as well as working draincocks. His company is called TRS trains. I realize this isn't an option with this loco, and installation costs as much as the loco. But if you like your models with smoke, you need to check it out. He's got videos on UA-cam.

Waaaaaaayyyyy too much oil in the device. It's not a dud, it's overloaded....flooded. Invert the locomotive, empty the reservoir, and then run the engine hard for about four minutes to clear the device. Next time, next new BLI, run it first to see if it smokes a bit. They all do, right out of the box, then, add three, maybe four drops at most, and continue to enjoy it. Better yet, turn the damned thing off. It' looks goofy and doesn't look at all like smoke. (My opinion...).

Yes me too having problems with the smoke not coming

The smoke not even in time with the beats. It sort of drift out.

Well I wasn't sure how I'd enjoy silent video, you've set an example , no face time, no useless banter, no explanation about opening boxes, and I thank you. My concern is how many freight cars can it pull. I did enjoy your approach and presentation. I've been modeling for fifty years, technology is amazing, seems Scale trains and Rapido are tops.

Come on, smoke does not scale. It can never look realistic. I'd never pay extra for this "feature".

Problem on models: smoke comes always as an column and it is white. Good sound is more important to me.

I have had similar results with several BLI Steam locomotives. I switch off the smoke unit and run without the smoke function. I understand your frustrations with the smoke effect.

Broadway Limited is whats wrong with model railroading ... over priced WAY overpriced and all they do is make rich people locos with that crappy DCC

almost a third of the video was just getting out of the box......fell asleep

I was very disappointed in the quality control. Reason I say this is because I found 5 items I had to realign. The head light in particular needed to be realigned from looking way to high.

Shame the smoke is questionable - it sure is a very nice looking model! As an O-Gauger (and ex-HO'er) I've become quite jealous of some of the pieces available in the HO world nowadays. There is some really, really first class stuff being produced. BLI wasn't readily available when I was in HO but my local train store stocks some of their pieces, I've been very impressed seeing them run and handling them. HO looks very appealing these days...

smoke unit looks like crap even when it "works", I would never return a loco over such a silly feature

If the locomotive is not from a dealer, you dont know what they could have done with it. There is also a warranty (which should be included) and when they send it beck it should work just fine. None of my models have smoke generator issues and they work just fine. And where else would you find a really detailed and nice e6?

Call me picky but smoke never looks real on a model, even when it's working as advertised. The physical characteristics of smoke just don't scale. So I've never bothered with it. Also, a well operated stream locomotive need not make much smoke or steam at all, depending on weather and other circumstances.

I'd just put a Tsunami2 on it. I don't like BLI sounds and could care less about the smoke.

What you need is first not to saturate the box that receives the oil and secondly to program the CV that controls the volume of smoke in idling and at full speed. Exceptionally, you must program the CV that relates the puffs with the chu chu of the wheels.

I have the same Lindberg 460. Out of the box it would short my DCC breaker. I put it on a DC test track and it ran for a moment or so then the cab light, front pilot lights and headlight died. Decoder will program and engine runs fine in DCC. Tender lights work OK. Waiting to hear back from BLI about return or they can send me the parts if they OK me opening the engine. Short was obviously in light wiring harness. On many of my BLI steam the smoke unit is the first thing I remove completely. Larger engines I place a speaker in there, smaller engines I add weight. More than half of my P3 and now this P4 have had electrical or decoder issues. I have 3 P5as that all had to have motors and decoders replaced 😞 I sent BLI a repair request but it has been two weeks. I'm cutting them some slack since they might have to deal with Ian damage? Thanks for your review.

0:39 classic BLI quality control

I’ve already repaired a paragon 2 smoke unit with paragon 3 smoke unit parts

How many drops of smoke did you put into the smoke unit? They already put some in for you, you may have over done with with the smoke cause you can see how heavy the smoke is by how it instantly falls

The only ones I’ve seen that haven’t had issues yet are the Big Boys. Mine works decent but does require that I open the model up and add fluid directly to the wicking once in a while. Not a huge deal because I do like to clean residual smoke fluid off the interior every once in a while but I’m definitely not as pleased with BLI smoke as I was with MTH. That and it has to run to the point that the smoke box gets very hot to look good. If I turn the temperature down at all the smoke becomes completely unnoticeable. More recently I’ve been shutting it off. Kind of a waste if it doesn’t work at all or at least well.

I already damaged the smoking unit with several BLI locos. Obviously, their this tiny unit is not designed well and easily to broken in a sudden or … just after the unboxing.