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It’s a Les Paul with EMGs.

Don’t recall exactly which was in this clip, but I believe it was early 2000s.

It really depends on what you want the amp to do. There’s no right/wrong answer. You will lose a little something if it’s switchable. It’s still a compromise and the mod will impact the tone some even when disengaged. The only way to have the full-on C+ or C++ is to have one or the other in the amp. If you like the clean channel, I wouldn’t recommend the mod. The front end gets slammed hard enough that the clean channel is destroyed. Even at super low settings of Volume 1, it barely cleans up, and what you’re left with is lackluster. You end up with more of a light crunch channel as opposed to a clean channel, which can be cool if you like that instead.

What tones are you going for?

@@thenewworldman3640 I think ypu answered my question. I love the cleans of my IIC+. Last thing I want is to dirty up the clean channel. I just wanted to know if it really brings you THAT much closer to the Metallica sound. I like the MoP era tone and based on your info page that was all C+ anyway right?

It’s a hair more “metal” sounding. It’s not a lot more gain on tap. It’s a little more saturation around the note and feels a little easier to play. The EQ reacts slightly different as well. If you’ve got an ‘85 DRG C+, you’ve essentially got Crunchberries, which was MoP. The ++ was for albums after (for James).

No, they are sonically the same. There’s no magic in the older transformer sets from Schumacher in Rectos. The best Rev C I owned was outfitted with later ‘90s replacement Schumachers.

@@thenewworldman3640 Man good to hear. I just bought a Revision F (Serial 1515) and it has the 562105 and 561136 transformers. I was a little bummed out thinking I was missing out on some magic.

Yeah, I wouldn’t worry about it at all. You’re not missing anything. Some Rev F shipped stock with them, including the 561140. I’ve owned them all and tried them all over the years.

I get asked that quite frequently. I suppose if one was to go, it would be the Mark IV. Love them all, but don’t “need” them all either.

@@thenewworldman3640 how much ? Limaguitar@icloud.com Just checking lmk

Hi, they are both DRG models. Thanks!

I actually had a ‘96 Wizard Modern Classic 100 identical to Hetfield’s for a while. He didn’t have it when they did the original tracks for the Load/Reload era, so there’s no Wizard on Load. The Triaxis rig is the primary sound on Load, and you’ll also hear the old C++, a Rectifier, and Bob’s Jose Marshall blended in at times. Triaxis does most of the heavy lifting. You can hear the basic sound on the demos, which were cut in Lars studio (where James had his Triaxis rig, a Recto, and JC-120). James acquired the Wizard right before they started to work in finalizing the Reload tracks, so while the basic tracks were cut during the Load sessions, the Wizard was used as a blender on Reload. It also featured on Garage Inc as a blender with their live racks, though you can hear it more prominently on tracks like “Turn the Page.”

They used Mesa Rectifiers during the load and reload era. Sure they incorporated other stuff like the wizard amps, and triaxis, but it deadass sounds majority Rectifier.

@@SilentNightBodomNight Sure, the Rectifier was noted above. It was used in conjunction with the Triaxis/C++ rig, as well as Bob’s Jose Marshall per usual.

Rev F is like mark 4 and rev C like mark 2/3 ;)

@@clusternest1704 I don't hear any mark 4 in the rev f. Rev c and D share the same transformers as the mark ivAs.

You’re 100% on point. The Mesa Mark series are extremely mid heavy amps. Dipping the 750 slider (to a reasonable degree) just flattens the mid bump and makes it more neutral as opposed to scooping them (which you could still do if you dropped it all the way). You can dial a lot of mids out and still have more midrange than on a lot of amps.

@@thenewworldman3640 i think something is wrong with me. I don't like using the geq on my IV. Is it just my ears that likes the mid heavy tone of the amp or like...my cabs? I have a 212 with a v30 and c90 blend.

Thanks! It’s in the 150-ish range I think. I’d have to check to be more specific.

Ok just let me know if you know one day! 150 ish seems to be the few last original

I figured most people would complain, given it’s just a quick iPhone clip, but I agree with too. Even with the phone, some of the subtle difference shine through.

I have 5 of mark series amps, Green stripe, Red stripe, Blue Stripe and a a IIC+.. if they were vastly different they wouldn't have just swiped each version with just a magic marker swipe or a black dot or a + sign. The big difference in the IIC+ and the Mark III was the third channel. Mesa got noticeably different with the Mesa badging vs the Boogie badges. The Rectifier series,The lone star, Road King,Nomad, etc came later and did sound different... The stiletto was probably the most different being EL34 based shooting toward the Marshall tone. Even my newer Mark 5 EL84 based amp sits in my studio with the older mark III'S and IIC+ it too sounds really close even all these years later with totally different power section/ tubes. The petrucci amp is a modern Mark amp and you can line up all the Mark series amps and NO one in the audience would ever know the difference and most guitar players blind folded couldn't pick them out one from the other especially with the transparent EVM 12L black shadow speaker or an MC-90 black shadow. The IIC+ landed production in the right time to become the flagship vintage boogie. Thats when 80's music was huge and that amp was produced at the right time for the players who made it famous. it didn't make them famous. I would argue a Mark III purple, red, blue or green stripe Mark III could have been used by the players who made the IIC+ famous and those albums and concerts wouldn't have sounded any different. They just weren't available at the time those bands recorded those albums. They stopped the IIC+ when the mark III came into production. They stopped the III when the Mark IV started and so on....they are all great amps and tonally are the same. Most of those bands stopped playing the IIC+ and went to the mark III when it came out because the sound was basically the same but the 3 had a third channel, everyone loved that.

your red stripe vs your IV-A ... which do you prefer and why ?

It was 6L6s in the clip.

No, I sold it a while back. I’ve had quite a few Rev C over the years.

The lead sound must be fit for a 'Barbarian'.

Out of interest, what does the f to c mod entail?