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No, that's precisely not what the clip says. It is only Jesus who is Lord and through Him one enters the Kingdom of Heaven. That comes through faith in Him first, but He then requires obedience to Him. Religious people fail to realise that they are breaking the law of God and that only Jesus Christ can grant you righteousness. We invite you to watch the whole message if you want to understand the truth of the matter: ua-cam.com/video/xzbI7ACFB1M/v-deo.html

That's a common misconception. It doesn't endorse slavery the way we think of it. The ancient Israelites' story in Egypt is one of being freed from horrific slavery. It is central to the OT/Hebrews scriptures, so to say it endorses slavery is a fallacy at best. Even the OT had regulations about how household "slaves" (indentured servants, in this case, which is made clear when read in context) were to be treated well and given opportunities for freedom from their indebtedness. There was also allowance made if one wanted to stay in the household in that role - because they could be treated extremely well in a well-off household. Some notes about "slaves" in the NT are about, again, indentured servants under the Roman system - even then, more of an acknowledgement that it existed and how to deal with that, not advocating for it remotely. So much more to this when properly investigated, but yes, the NT consistently points to loving others every bit. Of course, the slavery abolitionist movement was led gloabally by Christians like William Wilberforce who saw precisely that the kind of inhuman slavery trade being conducted was totally opposed to Scripture. There are specific NT scriptures that condemn slave/people-trading as horrible sin. They saw this, yet somehow people ignore this when they trot out the standard mistruths about the Bible and slavery. So when people say they can't see the love it's just to say they're holding on to preconceived notions, rather than honestly investigating.

@@livingwaterschurchofgod More apologetics it is ok I have heard it before by Christians. I wouldn't expect anything less from you.. There are at least seven passages in the Bible where God is depicted as directly permitting or endorsing slavery. Two of these are in the Law of Moses: God permitted the Israelites to take slaves from conquered peoples permanently, and the Israelites could sell themselves into slavery temporarily to pay off debts (Exod 21:2-11; Lev 25:44-46). The other five passages are in the New Testament, where slavery as a social institution is endorsed and slaves are called to obey their masters “in everything” (Eph 6:5-9; Col 3:22-4:1; 1 Tim 6:1-2; Tit 2:9-10; 1 Pet 2:18-20). Deuteronomy 15:12-15:12 If a member of your community, whether a Hebrew man or a Hebrew woman, is sold to you and works for you six years, in the seventh year you shall set that person free. Leviticus 25:44-46 44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly. Exodus 21:7-11 7 “If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. 8 If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself,[a] he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. 9 If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. 10 If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights. 11 If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money. Matthew 25: 14-30 14 “Again, here is what the kingdom of heaven will be like. A man was going on a journey. He sent for his slaves and put them in charge of his money. 15 He gave five bags of gold to one. He gave two bags to another. And he gave one bag to the third. The man gave each slave the amount of money he knew the slave could take care of. Then he went on his journey. 16 The slave who had received five bags of gold went at once and put his money to work. He earned five bags more. 17 The one with the two bags of gold earned two more. 18 But the man who had received one bag went and dug a hole in the ground. He hid his master’s money in it. 19 “After a long time the master of those slaves returned. He wanted to collect all the money they had earned. 20 The man who had received five bags of gold brought the other five. ‘Master,’ he said, ‘you trusted me with five bags of gold. See, I have earned five more.’ 21 “His master replied, ‘You have done well, good and faithful slave! You have been faithful with a few things. I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master’s happiness!’ 22 “The man with two bags of gold also came. ‘Master,’ he said, ‘you trusted me with two bags of gold. See, I have earned two more.’ 23 “His master replied, ‘You have done well, good and faithful slave! You have been faithful with a few things. I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master’s happiness!’ 24 “Then the man who had received one bag of gold came. ‘Master,’ he said, ‘I knew that you are a hard man. You harvest where you have not planted. You gather crops where you have not scattered seed. 25 So I was afraid. I went out and hid your gold in the ground. See, here is what belongs to you.’ 26 “His master replied, ‘You evil, lazy slave! So you knew that I harvest where I have not planted? You knew that I gather crops where I have not scattered seed? 27 Well then, you should have put my money in the bank. When I returned, I would have received it back with interest.’ 28 “Then his master commanded the other slaves, ‘Take the bag of gold from him. Give it to the one who has ten bags. 29 Everyone who has will be given more. They will have more than enough. And what about anyone who doesn’t have? Even what they have will be taken away from them. 30 Throw that worthless slave outside. There in the darkness, people will weep and grind their teeth.’ How much more clear can it get? There is no commandment that says “Thou shalt not own another human being as property”. Owning a slave is not a sin. Exodus 21 tells you where to buy slaves, how long you can keep them for, how you can treat them, etc. Anybody who tries to twist the meaning of this knows it is immoral to own slaves and wants to falsely defend the Bible. For example, there is absolutely no mention of the words “indentured servitude” in the Bible, but apologist will swear that is what it means. In any case, that is STILL owning another human being as property. It doesn’t matter if they were treated nice or were let go after some years…slavery is slavery no matter how much you try to sugarcoat it. If slavery were ever re-instituted and you yourself were likely to to be enslaved, would you then consider slavery wrong? If the answer is yes, then slavery is wrong. There are some moral absolutes that transcend religion.

@@livingwaterschurchofgod I am not surprised by your response it is typical of Christian apologists .The Bible condones slavery. There are even several passages about this: "However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way." (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT) "If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever." (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT) "When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. " (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT) "When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property." (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB) "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. "(Ephesians 6:5 NLT) " Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. " (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT) The bible is handbook on slavery. If slavery were ever re-instituted and you yourself were likely to to be enslaved, would you then consider slavery wrong? If the answer is yes, then slavery is wrong. There are some moral absolutes that transcend religion.

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There are specific references in the gospels to the funds that Jesus and his disciples had for their expenses and giving to the poor. And his ministry clearly included the poor and needy, sick, outcasts, etc. Thanks for your comment.

Thank you. Very kind.

Tell the "no suffering" bit to people living through war, disabled children, disease, starvation, neighbourhood violence, corruption, oppression, etc. etc. etc. Christ's Return is not ridiculous, it's a necessity.

Nope. All you have to do is read 1st Thessalonians and see the expectation of Christ's physical return drove the church. It permeates Acts and all of the epistles, and of course, Revelation.

Understand where you're coming from. Might seem to someone like it's "magical" thinking, but in fact if we take the time to investigate the factual basis of the New Testament with an open mind, we see the truth of everything described there. And, believe it, we're not sad 🙂 Thank you for posting.

​@@livingwaterschurchofgod I was raised in a christian religious extremist community. I dont need to be preached at. Ive read the bible, and found it lacking. Ive watched as my community refused basic medication, watched as my niece suffocated to death, watched as my aunt died slowly to a tumor. Ive SEEN what your religion does, and im not interested. If god does exist, he has a lot of explaining to do, and quite frankly, if there is a god who is willing to let all of THIS happen, it doesnt DESERVE my worship. We are stardust, nothing more. There's nothing watching. If praying makes you feel better about that, whatever. Do you, but dont come at me with that nonsense.

Sounds horrible what you went through. Not everyone who believes takes that approach, of course. Though that would be small comfort given your experience. Your Carl Sagan quote, nevertheless, points to something greater. I think he even realised that when he made it (not implying he meant God). In my case, belief in Christ opened up my world and those of believers around me - in ways we never could have imagined - including, ironically, saving us from situations as bad as you describe. Just know that there's more to it than your experience and I/we sincerely hope you find that in time. In the meantime, I'm sorry for your loss and wish you well - Peace, if you will. And that's not preaching, just sincerity. Again, appreciate you sharing so openly. Take care.

We worship by giving all our lives, don't we?