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Honestly I can’t tell a huge difference performance wise. The Chad is interesting because I don’t “feel” the concussion like blast to my face but it is there. The DN5 I feel the blast but at the end of the day I don’t feel as concussed if that makes any sense.

A good balanced rifle. Your balance point should be about 4 inches in front of your magwell. A good heavy sand filled bag, can’t stress that enough. If you are trying to use lightweight or bead fill you are making it much for difficult. Dry fire practice and by that I mean build a position and do not dry fire until your reticle is perfectly still. I mean still, not acceptable wobble. You will learn on how to put pressure in and take pressure out to get more stable. Good luck

I highly recommend shooting the Chad before just buying one. While it has considerable less blast than the TMB it is comparable to the DN5...and it is LOUD. Not saying it doesn't do what it advertised...it controls muzzle rise and has less blast than the TMB but if you are blast sensitive then please keep that in mind. As I said in the video....it is not ACE in that regard.

Not exactly sure but I typically run 18 power for the majority of the stages I shoot.

@@DarthLepard thank you!

Yep. The course of fire was well thought out and remaining calm and breaking good shots was the key…

I shoot a dasher so it’s hard to really rate felt recoil with something so low already. I like the recoil impulse of the Chad better because it doesn’t drive down the muzzle as hard.

@DarthLepard I kimd of figured since it is a 6 dasher. Not much recoil to begin with lol.

Haha. It appears to be a good brake overall.

Thanks BJ, I was pleasantly surprised by the reduce blast for sure. Shooting it at the Scorcher this weekend so I have high hopes. Let me know if you get any of those bags in stock, would love to do a little review on that as well.

@@DarthLepard thanks mate, probably wont be another 2 months will be get more bags but everyone will know when we do :)

I would run the DN5 over the TMB any day. Better muzzle control and less blast. I was in squad 19, barely made the cut but I was happy since it was my first year of PRS.

@@DarthLepard I knew you looked familiar. I shot with you. My name is Erik. I was shooting the 25 creed in the red white and blue XLR chassis

After watching some of my video I was making misses right after getting hits with the same wind holds prior. Wind is a skill for sure!!!

Thanks. I have been working on getting NPA vs forcing stability. Harder than what I thought it would be.

makes sense, I know a lot of people who are very sensitive to the blast and prefer to un things like ACE or suppressors and are incredible shooters. I think you can get adapt to whatever system you are using, just takes training

I have never used a tree in PRS but I know of some that do. It is very easy to build your process around not using the tree. Pretty simple rule in PRS is if you have time to dial, then you dial, period. I also tend to utilize hold under instead of hold overs on the stages that it makes sense to hold

How does the Leupold Mark 4HD glass compare to your Gen 3 Razor? Do you feel like you are giving anything up?

I use the TriggerCam and it does take some getting used to. I used it for a few one day matches before taking it to a Pro match. I highly recommend, it continues to be one of the best training techniques I have used to date!!!

If you watch my first muzzle break showdown you can see the DN5 was the easy winner in regard to felt recoil and muzzle rise. You would have to get used to the blast though, it is considerably more than the ACE/Hawkins though.

thank you?

very valid point and I plan on doing some tuner testing in the future although not sure if I want to spend the $$$ to get enough shots to make it statistically valid though. THe 6mm Dasher shoots 1/2 minute almost any combo I put through it :)

I wish they made a little cheaper non tuner version

There are a few matches that give you a 90 second time limits and Kahles is one of them. Keeps the stress level high LOL

the ACE is a fantastic brake and I know lots of people who use it successfully with top 10 finishes. It is about the best when it comes to no blast or concussion to the shooter, no doubt

@@DarthLepard yeah I know Buschman, Blackketter, Orgain and Harmon run it. After reading the precision rifle blog about Buschman it really sealed my choise on the Ace vs Dn5 since he complained about tinnitus after 2 day matches with other brakes and not the ace and I already have been suffering from tinnitus since 16 years old. One of the reasons I nearly refuse to shoot unsuppressed

Thanks. I know several people who run the ACE and love it. The complete lack of blast and concussion is nice for sure!!!!

Makes sense the more weight at the end of the barrel helps drive it back down.

They’re titanium but yet heavy enough to balance out my MPA in 6GT what’s great is if you pull a shot you see how much the rifle reacts to not perfect placement and trigger pull

6mm Dasher with 109gr Berger Hybrids

I have no idea but I will weigh them when I get home this evening though, didn't even think to measure that. Off handed though the Chad seemed a lot heavier to me. Will update this evening

I would imagine a lot of the effectiveness of the low recoil is due to the weight

Chad weighs 14.5 oz. So at least double what the others do.

yep, I will send mine out for black DLC I think...we are going to have to dunk these things to get them clean for sure. How often do you plan on cleaning yours?

@DarthLepard I cleaned it after 300rds, took the nut and tuner off and put it in a shotglass looking thing full of clr in the ultrasonic. Clean as a whistle.

well I ordered mine a long time ago back when it was still the TMB just the Morgun King Edition. Just look at Strike Without Warnings website and see if one pops up. I would highly recommend seeing one and shooting it first though. I will be at Twisted Barrel Scorcher if you plan on being there.

Great content! While I love going the brake route, I've gotten pretty comfortable using my tbac7 and tbac5 shooting 6gt. I'll be using a trigger cam for the Twisted Barrel Scorcher Match, so we'll see how bad my muzzle flip is. Hopefully, the video will be usable. Lol. Thx again for the videos.

Check out bullet central or short action precision. They will be getting some very soon.

Preece Precision had some in stock

Our dealers will have them in stock really soon. Bullet central and short action precision are our biggest dealers.

Ha. It happens more than I like :)

first stage of Day 2...was not the start I wanted LOL

unfortunately I was seeing them, just not taking the time to get accurate measurements and good corrections....wasted points

yeah, the wind for sure showed up on Saturday. I did miss the 1st 2 shots and if you look closely you can see I was too strong on my wind call. I started at 1.9 mil and ended up hitting at 1.3 mil. The 2nd miss was because I was a dummy and did not properly measure and I tried 1.5 mil at the smaller target and again missed upwind. An area I need to improve on is to actually measure my corrections.....

Thanks, it felt really good and I was seeing I was centered on plate. Always nice when you dope card actually lines up LOL

​@@DarthLepard You going to Twisted Barrel Scorcher?

Yep, not likely going to be recording that one but I will be there, squad 18 I believe

​@@DarthLepardAWESOME! See you there!

I am running the DN5 but I am about to do a comparison on the DN5 vs Chad vs ACE so stay tuned. And yes it does mess with your eye box a bit but you get used to it but it sucks if you get in an awkward position though.

My pleasure!

Its a great match, there is no gimmicky props or weird stages and I really like the 105 second par times, it feels like the right balance of time pressure but allowing you to move and build good positions, at least for my current skill level

​@DarthLepard I'm going to struggle with 105 seconds, but that's part of learning.

Best advice I can give is to not worry about the time but worry about breaking good shots. I know we have all heard that 1,000 times but it is true. Move fast and shoot smooth/slow!!!! You got this man!

Thank you, kind of lost focus on the mover stage but managed to keep it together overall.

it is! you can tell when you have a good position vs not but even if I get sloppy on my position building the DN5 still helps keeps me on target and able to see what is happening downrange.

Thanks. I plan on breaking down one stage per match I shoot on stuff I need to work on so hopefully others can learn as well!!!!

thank you very much, just starting to record my PRS matches, check out the latest, I am changing my editing a bit, let me know what you think!

that is a great question, never thought about it that way!!!

yep, I carried the wind from the last stage but we went to a different shooting location and it was completely different, still got a ton to learn for sure!!

Glad you like it. I have tested almost every brake and it’s a difference maker. You do need to handle your gun differently otherwise it will drive your reticle down too much, or it did for me because I used to try to man handle my gun to control recoil.

I didn’t same thing trying to man handle the rifle as well!!!! How much front hand pressure do you have and are you doing anything with your trigger hand? I just got back from the JTAC class in May

Much appreciated, took me a minute to figure out how to setup the TriggerCam but I think it is my most valuable training tool at the moment.

Thanks. Let me know what you think about the DN5, I have a buddy who bought one as well and can’t believe the difference it makes

@@DarthLepardI also bought the DN5 for a tikka t3x tac A 1 (6.5 creedmoor) all factory components and I didn’t see much difference in muzzle rise, maybe it’s just the shooter I’m interested to hear what others think or experienced?

Not sure of the question but in PRS you have spotters that call impacts for the person keeping score on the I-pad, it’s not really for the shooter because you can see it in the scope.

@@DarthLepard Okay . . . I noticed one guy saying hit while the other guy said impact. First time I heard two guys doing that. Thanks.

well I thought I remembered to record so there is that :) I had Trigger Cam issues all day though

It is surprising hard to call accurate wind at K&M. It is lanes cut in the middle of trees, its not as easy as sticking your Kestrel in the air, that is for sure

yes, I tend to rush on movers when I know what the hold is....dumb mistakes cost you points

thanks, tough day for me though

it has helped me so much watching my stages

@@DarthLepard What caliber are you shooting? I notice your recoil is minor.

6mm Dasher but the DN5 brake really helps

sun was directly at out back so it was easy to see

haha, it went downhill from there