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G'day William, There are many sites that have digitized copies of tradional songs written in the last 300 or more years. Where did you find the evidence that you used to make the above statement, above? Holdstock and Macleod acknowledge Peter Coe's contribution to the lyrics and Marie Cowan's "Waltzing Matilda" as the tune. Marie Cowan's "Waltzing Matilda" which was arranged and published in 1903, can be traced to an arangement of "Bonnie Wood of Craigielea" published in the "Lyric Gems of Scotland" in 1856. The original "Bonnie Wood of Craigielea" was composed by Scot, James Barr, probably in 1806. Evidence for the above can be found in the digital sections of the National Library of Scotland and Australian National Library. William, as an Australian would say, your statement sounds like bullshit to me. Please prove me wrong by supplying evidence.

The Second Hundred Years' War is the period between the War of the League of Augsburg starting in 1689 to the defeat of Napoleon at the Battle of Waterloo in 1815.

Also, they keep saying "north country" rather than "low countries".

They forgot the Battle of Cannae!

The period from 1689-1815 is called the Second Hundred Years War, because of the many wars involving France and England. The major wars that were fought in this period was the Nine Years War 1689-97, the War of the Spanish Succession 1701-14, the War of the Austrian Succession 1740-48, the Seven Years War 1756-63, the American Revolutionary War and the French Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars 1792-1815.

That's quite common for folk songs as they have a tradition of being passed around and people changing the lyrics to suit them, so Its hard to know who actually wrote them or what the original lyrics where. According to legend waltzing Matilda was based off Bonnie wood o' Craigielea, but it's tune is slightly different because Macpherson supposedly misremembered the tune.

@@Gorfell James Barr wrote the music to "Bonnie Wood o' Craigielea" in 1806. It is very melodious and made up of four 4 bar musical phrases. It is included in many collections of Scottish songs. I have 5 of them from between 1827 and 1893. In 1893 Thomas Bulch an English expat living in Australia wrote an arrangement for brass band, "Craigielea" which used 3 of the phrases from Barr's song in the opening theme. Bulch's tune is virtually note for note with an arrangement of "Bonnie Wood of Craigielea" published in "The Lyric Gems of Scotland" in 1856. In 1894 the local brass band played the march, "Craigielea" at the three day Warrnambool races in southern Victoria. Christina Macpherson, the sister of the "squatter mounted on his thoroughbred" heard it played and remembered two of the phrases. When she got home she made up her version of the song combining the two phrases in the musical form AABA. In 1895, in the Winton district of central Queensland, Christina played her song on autoharp at a gathering which included Banjo Paterson. Banjo offered to write some words for the song. The song was composed over the following weeks. Banjo’s original manuscript still exists. A Some time later, Christina wrote 2 copies of the music and words by hand and these manuscripts are held in the Australian National Library. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waltzing_Matilda#/media/File:Original_Waltzing_Matilda_manuscript.jpg Christina had a very good ear and remembered the two phrases quite accurately except in Bar 10 where she writes the melody running down an Eb6 chord rather than running down the Eb scale. This version, however, is not the one that Australians sing. A few years later Banjo sold the rights to some of his poems, including “Waltzing Matilda” to a publisher. The rights were soon purchased by the Inglis Tea Company. James Inglis, the owner, commissioned Marie Cowan, the wife of one of his managers to rewrite Christina’s song as an advertising jingle for Billy Tea. Marie altered Paterson’s words and did a major rewrite on the music, smoothing it out and making it more contemporary. This is the version of the song that expat Aussies sing with great enthusiasm, hopelessly out of tune, whenever even mildly inebriated Australians gather anywhere on the surface of the planet. nla.gov.au/nla.obj-166639875/view?partId=nla.obj-166639888#page/n0/mode/1up This is also the version that singers of “The Gay Fusiliers” have adopted. If anyone has evidence to back up a different story, please supply it.

I'm afraid you're wrong on that one. It is highly contested, but the Bold Fusilier, or Marching through Rochester as it is better known, is much older than Waltzing Matilda. The earliest knowledge of it's singing was by British soldiers before the Battle of Waterloo on June 18 1815, 80 years before Banjo Paterson wrote down the lyrics. Some believe that the song itself was written earlier still, as it references the War of Spanish Succession, Queen Anne, and Sir John Churchill, the Duck of Marlborough.

***** Ah, the Great Duck of Marlborough, it's quack could be heard across the channel. Joking aside, I suggest you either edit or add to the wikipedia article unless you're the one who wrote it in the first place to make people believe incorrect facts. It's entirely plausible what you're saying is correct, I know that the ants go off to war was ATLEAST 3 different songs before it was about ants and war.

Wikipedia is crap. I knew of these lyrics and the tune in the 1960s and the other variations depending on the general of the moment. I ma also from Rochester and there is mention of it in a local history dating from the 1850s.

Why would any one write a song about Queen Ann's war in 1900 ??? Wikipedia needs amending 'over the hills and far away' comes from the same war hence Flanders Portugal and Spain

@@terencehill1971 Terence, Hearsay is NOT evidence. Do you have any evidence?

It is actually believed that the tune for this song was taken from Walting Matilda. Its a great tune, very inspiring.

+Alex Braunberger It was also featured in "Sharpe's Regiment"

The tune came from a scottish folk song called "Bonnie wood o' Craigielea" watch?v=1lcMt-c9rGw