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I certainly agree with you on the sound quality, recording quality and record quality varies too much for me to make an opinion on who did what better in this period! I mean that absolutely destroyed George Robey record somehow still played, but this zonophone is just glorious. Great quality and great song, so fun.

I forget about earlier Indian pressings so that was interesting to read that at first. sentimental songs are just great, they really get that feeling right.

Ha I just got this just because it had the Ernest Pike pseudonym on it, though do remember this was a year ago. This really is a nice record as all of the cast ones are, very romantic and bittersweet. Didn’t really think much besides that it would be uncommon, good to know and thanks!

Sure, I believe it is 7626. Mr. Hager is always on these early zonophones isn’t he. Also I found this resource which includes this record www.78discography.com/Zono12.htm, though no matrix for it.

@@colonelbogeysfauxcow Thank you! Recorded in New York, approx. March 1907.

Should be Eva Bennie web.archive.org/web/20240613220236/www.gramophonecompanydiscography.com/advanced_search_results?artist=&artistAlt=&title=‘Twas+in+September+&titleAlt=&prefix=&suffix=&matrixNumber=&issueNumber=&recordingDate=&location=&filename=&other=&notes=&maxResults=1000,

Ah I forgot to mention both of those in the description but it’s easier for people to see it in the comments, thanks.

I have some bad news, seriously though thanks a lot for pointing it out. I’m going through some discs and started cleaning them with a simple process and the results are amazing, I could easily get rid of all of this gunk quite quickly. I’m going through my acoustic English stuff which you said you liked right, if so I hope that you enjoy them!

I quite agree, I thought the same but no obvious suspects so far. Perhaps the second of the duets from the likes of Fanning & Fortune, The two filberts, Hayes & Croft etc.? One of the people that accompanied Harry cove basically.

@@colonelbogeysfauxcow His accent sounds a bit like Harry Bluff (real name Charles Leonce Bluff). The duos you mention are usually Harry Cove & Will Thompson, but think Jack Charman may also have been involved. Interestingly, both Harry Cove & Will Thompson were on separate occasions, the other half of 'The Two Gilberts' (prolific 1920's duo), the other Gilbert always being Fred Douglas.

I’m especially happy about how clean the transfer is without sacrificing the audio, though I have a suspicion the speed might be slightly off. Even worse I actually meant to do it but forgot, but it’s not all bad because I would’ve set it to 76 as with all my acoustic victors (so it’s that not far off at 78). Just looked it up as I didn’t know myself and it’s from the “Business as Usual” show which did sound familiar, so I did know at one point. I actually did bid on a copy of that Lorraine Columbia during the most recent Nauck’s auction but to no avail, despite getting the Nicoles lol. I planned on “finishing” my pre-1909 record pile for this channel but I’ve got a section of British WW1 and some music hall stuff which needs some exposure so that might be my next focus.

I tell myself that I only need the Victor 6 (with the orthophonic soundbox) and shouldn’t get any more machines…though a credenza would provide actual bass and so much more treble wise too (I think exponentially better in every way). Speaking of drum(s) and bass (clever right) that was a surprising break to me that he did in the middle, like damn! I shouldn’t need to use one speaker because both speakers are playing in mono, right? On the label it says recorded in Europe so I’m quite sure of that, though I thought Ray Noble was British? But I’m not quoting you on that. ua-cam.com/video/XQup9s58AS8/v-deo.htmlsi=a2W39vMoOHMVxg8c, seems to be quite British.

Thanks, have no clue about speeds mostly.

I intentionally didn’t make a transfer because I wanted to compare the sound of both systems live, in the room. You’re quite right that this is a small room that is not preferable, though little can be done in my situation unless it’s modifying the room’s acoustics. Luckily I have tackled the issue of stereo as both channels are blended so that both speakers are playing the same audio (i.e. mono). UA-cam also has the issue of lowering the quality of recordings so there is less bass and substance than on the original recording I took. In person at less than half volume (no sane person would play above half or 60) it is very loud and creates a great sound (in my opinion). I hope this answers your comment.

The reason there is no video for the machines is because I originally recorded both audio files for myself on voice memos (It’s more convenient than a video when recording or in storage, and it probably takes half as much storage as a video), and a bit later I then thought why not make a video. I made a slideshow because it’s much more concise and will take less time than me talking, plus it was also just to try it out for the first time. I’ll edit the title so it says “sound comparison” or something like that, thanks for the comment.

76 seems to do it for acoustic victors, I like that it’s in English because it’s one of the few operas I understand. Macdonough seems to have a quiet range as he did ballads, this, and popular. A patriotic that he did and I hope somehow turn up is him doing “Goodbye Dolly Gray” on 7” inch Victor monarch from around 1901, first time I heard him. He does a very good job here, 5 guys around right next to the horn with an orchestra behind them.

@@colonelbogeysfauxcow Yes, opera is a tricky to follow if not in English, especially on record. With a well known aria, I can enjoy in another language, especially if its the great Caruso!

Finally, I was looking at EMG colonel vids and the comments mentioned and the comments mentioned that acoustic ones typically played at 76. I have very much enjoyed all the Harry Macdonough records I’ve uploaded and heard so far.

@@colonelbogeysfauxcow EMG Colonel was one of the most knowledgeable collectors I've known & had an excellent ear for speed. Sadly, he passed away shortly after his last upload. Long may his channel stay up, for the info we can all glean. 76 seams an unofficial acoustic norm once record sales became established, but those from the turn of the century seem all over the place! Here's a very slow early Climax from our friend 'Mac' ua-cam.com/video/5Ql3Wn-tYjw/v-deo.htmlsi=a6CtP_iKKGAg4mOQ Think it still may be a bit fast. Early 'Winner' records were sometimes recorded fast, but with much variation. Think the 78 norm was settled on sometime in the 1920's

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Very much so, I did get 3 from a US based auction though at very good prices (since nobody knew what these were probably). I really like these early ones and have collected a stack of a few dozen so far.

Yeah these early records were a huge step in sound quality compared to the Berliners. I don’t find that many of these early records are badly recorded or sound bad, though if the condition is bad enough then it can really make these records unlistenable. Though a 1902 George Robey (which was recorded in the same day along a dozen other records on his first day) that I uploaded was utterly trashed but was still quite intelligible! My latest upload is a disc from a year later which is phenomenal in sound quality and surface noise. Thanks!

Ah well you’ll get somewhere close to my world renowned collection someday. Listening to it again I do agree, a bit of the grooves are missing and it isn’t in great condition but it could be worse. The blue blowers aren’t really a danceband right? I was very surprised, more hot stuff than vocals. 2 o clock is definitely very good. I’ll have to listen to the other Harry James columbias but I don’t remember many pianos like that. Hopefully at least one of the three copies I found are in E condition so I can get a decent price, but I shall see if I can get that price for a not as good condition copy. I think it actually got so expensive due to the marvel movies, here’s a wiki on the record en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_Been_a_Long,_Long_Time. Yes, I really like the jazz stuff I got so far! I do agree with that too! Imagine if he made that record during the Depression, but even then singing about being a poor old guy during while being one of the most famous artists of the roaring 20s. I found at least one more polyphon so far, hopefully I find some band or WW1 thing on it. That’d be cool. I had a somewhat similar experience when I found some Italian pressed Columbia records alongside some very nice acoustic records in albums at a thrift store. The same one where they charged 80 bucks per album, yikes. With records it seems that things just get around with no explanation! Interesting to see something I pulled out (other than some niche acoustic thing) to be quite rare. When I bring a box from the storage unit I just hope it doesn’t break a record when turning or making abrupt movements. Yes indeed, I’m very happy that the minority of acoustic records have wear and are worn. Though a decent amount of later stuff has wear and aren’t really as clean.

Thanks for the info.

It’s very fun indeed, got this a while back with a bunch of other Zonophones so it holds a special place.

Nauck’s doesn’t disappoint with condition, or their stock. I found a very clean Tommy Dorsey HMV from the collection (that was bought from naucks) that was a very fun jazz piece and just thought about how much you can get for 3 dollars from there! A great condition and very enjoyable uncommon record to find in the states for three bucks. Though while this wasn’t three bucks I’m incredibly happy to have this (it’s a new favorite for me), they had another Kirkby G&T and a whole section of English acoustic records. Many were not bought after it ended, though I didn’t bother getting them as if I wanted 10 records it would have been a bit more than I wanted for it. I lost and got what I really wanted!

I was most impressed by the dog!

Will check it out, I do really like this song. There is another version of this record online and it does different, I can slow it down a few rpm. I don’t edit the speeds yet as I don’t have good ears (yet) for this and little information exists. Thanks a lot.

@@colonelbogeysfauxcow My copy by R Lloyd Morgan appears slower, but can't be 100% sure I've got it right, as I only have another two of his recordings. Possibly 'an ear for speed' develops over time & of course, familiarity with the artist. Always reluctant to criticise, as I've made some speed bloopers in my earlier postings. I use a laser tachometer for records of known playback speeds, as speed regulators on gramophones can drift out of calibration over time.

@@tiga4180Seems the general consensus is that this is too fast, any criticisms or simple suggestions always help!

@@colonelbogeysfauxcow My pleassure!

Wow thanks for this comment! You’re typing as much as me! I would love to do an interview but I have only collected for only more than a year and I can count how many times I’ve bot 78 lots on one hand, so definitely for a later time. I would definitely enjoy talking about that type of stuff on our own, and I have enjoyed talking about that stuff already with you! I first saw your record burning the iceberg so I thought it maybe 50s, didn’t know a thing about these JRM HMVs before. This is probably the only one I’ve come across, though I do remember a New Orleans footwarmers on HMV (swing?) series so it’s not the only HMV Jazz I have. Obviously I barely see parlophone odeons so I don’t have that issue, but I did have a similar case of Richard crooks who I haven’t really listened to yet. I only heard of phonotye at a Naucks auction so I didnt and still know barely about them, I did feel it was something special though. Nice to hear that, all Dawsons are in my case lol. I also have kangaroo and dingo along with shipmates o mine(?), I haven’t seen the kangaroo around on the net much. I assume eBay, when shipping was manageable and he probably bought lots along with individual ones. Yes, on conqueror which surprised me a bit. Didn’t expect a band at all on it. Thanks for letting me know, I’ll check it out later. I do agree, strange seeing coherent (compared to the not very coherent hot dance and jazz) ragtime from a dance band. Hot stuff is nice but melodically speaking it is lacking quite a bit. I’ll do a digitization no problem alongside my oldies, I hope my recent uploads have been of interest to you. That my future ones to be too, I found an interesting an operatic 12 inch single sided columbia which I quite liked myself! I quite like these country ones, they’re just very nice. It is definitely, funnily enough I called it mooster while calling the title Wooster love song. Interesting to see if this college is in my state. I do have an issue with too much tracking force as it gets the cartridge to actually drag on the record. So I’ve been more cautious, but I will do that along with an increase in volume. Some records are a bit quiet for my taste. Yeah I wasn’t exactly the biggest a fan of whatever that was, is it his thing to do that? I actually found two RCA victor Caruso repress, though the 10 inch one was completely broken in half. The other intact one was a 12 inch I think, I find these interesting as I’ve only seen HMV ones anywhere. I do enjoy any comments or replies so I am awaiting for your return. While I really should stick with going through this collection, would you like any videos going through my victors/columbias/dancebands/british records (lots of acoustics) etc.? Also one record got cut out due to copyright, might happen with a few others.

It surprised me as to how many labels pressed this title (not the same recording in some cases), though this was a tremendously influential and important recording at the time. Even read a paper about these descriptives with a section on this very record. Good to hear that this video was not redundant!

Hi! Wasn’t notified about your comment but better late than never, it’s unfortunately a somewhat worn copy which is why Is put it through so much filtering. Looking back I find that the volume and lower end instruments are really really decreased here, I tend to not touch my records past de-click and crackle now. Really a great record isn’t it, shame that the flip side isn’t them also.

Probably is a hard copy to find, surprisingly got it at an online auction based in the UK months ago along with other great acoustic records. Always been an interest of mine despite living in the US.

@@colonelbogeysfauxcow I’ll be on the lookout for one. I didn’t even know what label it was on prior to your video.

@@eddiesanchez1899 did you hear it on the “Oh It’s a Lovely War Vol. 2” CD? I believe that the record I posted is the very same one featured on the CD. The main point is that it’s the only other audio recording of it (or so I believe).

@@colonelbogeysfauxcow yes, that’s where I heard it.

Indeed, I believe the master is either from Columbia (American one) if that wasn’t taken from another place (I don’t too much about masters and the whole process a lot so this very well could be wrong). Not knowing the date of this song, label, and other records of it I thought it was around 1908-1910 though doing some more research it could even be from 1917! It’s really great having you comment hear (an achievement), surprisingly I have more British music hall (if you’d like it) as early on that was my main interest and still is. Though driving around and collecting stacks locally is a lot more fun and much more sensible financially. Again if you have a suggestion for something early I just might have something in the description (I only have a modest collection, though in the future that’ll change).

@@colonelbogeysfauxcow The song dates to 1910. It appears that every time Billy Williams had a new song, he recorded it with several labels, to prevent it being 'covered' He may well have made this recording several times down the years, as it was one of his most popular & enduring songs. Regal acquired several of his masters & pressed them several years after his death. Regal was a subsidiary of Columbia.

Thanks!

Thanks a lot! More to come.

I will be very much happy to see more .