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Some say god created this experience for us to prove ourselves and free will is part of that. I did not grow up with religion in my life but I did learn to pray after I was dying and survived. Why am I still here? I learned to respect prayer in many religious forms and some of said to me that may be why I went through what I did. But we can't hope to know until the end can we? Unless you use free will to believe what speaks to you.

And in support of your argument you show clips of people setting out to kill or killing others because their own "transcendent" gods tells them to. Well allrighty then.

The question that we should be asking is "What end result does the having of freewill intends to achieve that could not be achieved abinitio by an All Powerful, All Loving God, that will justify the suffering, chaos and problems the world has been going through from time immemorial?"

God does not oppose evil. He created it. Isaiah 45:7 King James Version I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Objective source of morality is natural selection. Some morality helps society to prosper more, some less. Prospering civilization spreads better and spreads its morality. Modern societies are descendants of societies with objectively better morality. Others didn't make it. The video even shows an example of it. Civilization which was relatively ferocious towards its people (Aztecs) doesn't exist anymore. It has lost to relatively cohesive civilization which is still there basically. Of cource, morality is not the only trait that determines the outcome of natural selection, it is just part of it. Perhaps is was not decisive in the example.

Presumsionalist GARBAGE.

The critique is not evidence against God. It's a way to show that God, according to how He is described by Christians and defined by our language, is illogical. If I say "I have a basketball in my front pocket", and you say "can you show me? Because I don't think a basketball would fit in your pocket?", I can't say that it's a very, very small basketball. Because basketballs are not very very small. Then we have to agree to change the definition of basketball. Sure, we can say that it's a basketball for ants, a magic basketball that can change size etc, but that is not our common understanding of basketball.

Atheism does not assert that "In the absence of evidence justifying gods permission of such suffering, skepticism is justified." Atheism asserts "I don't believe that any god I have heard described exists". Some atheists, Christians, deists, and other people of all manner of belief systems, point out the inherent problem with claiming your god is "all loving" AND "all knowing" AND "all powerful", while there is suffering in the world, because a being with those attributes should be incapable of allowing any suffering at all. But this is not a claim of ATHEISM, this is just an issue some people have noticed and talk about on occasion. Also, free will does not work as an excuse, because a god with the given attributes could create a world where everyone has free will, yet no suffering is possible. An example of this is most peoples concept of heaven. So since such a being could do this, and would do this if it had the attributes described, the fact it hasn't done this tells us that it doesn't exist, at least not with these attributes.

If anyone is interested in considering a thoughtful reply to the type of argumentation expressed in this video, I would highly recommend watching Dr. Randel Rouser's recent video, titled _Evangelical apologist attempts to make the problem of evil disappear._ Rouser is a Christian, btw

The problem of suffering is there to show that there is a tension between the attribute "benevolent", "all-powerfull" and "all-knowing". The "free-will" response seems insufficient to answer for natural suffering. It's not based on emotion ;)

The theist will state: "Everything must come from something!" And then when asked: "Where did your god come from?" The theist will then claim that god is the UNCREATED (thus literally coming from NOTHING) Creator. This is special pleading. This logic is the proof that god does NOT exist. Also, if you think the universe is too complex and must have a creator then why don't you understand that any god would be even more complex then the universe itself? Shouldn't such a complex entity need a creator as well? And then that creator and so on until you have infinite creators with no end in sight!

A disagreeable video. If God exist, please prove it. If he cannot be described, cannot be perceived, cannot be explained, he is hypothetical. He may be real, but until proven so, his existence should always remain as a maybe.

Why is there so much focus on eternal justice - a concept that is a quandary only in the human mind? The universe really doesn't have to make sense to our biases nor care about us. Thinking that it must, is just an egoistical position. In my opinion, ethical realism is an ideal moral philosophy. Would I turn vegan? No. But I am flawed.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Anyone who has played with Legos should not be an atheist.

The "burden of proof" is on the one that makes the claim, atheism is like a "none stamp collector" secondly the human body is full of bad design like the laryngeal nerve, the crossing of the wind pipe and the food pipe it can be a killer!

That is 3 minutes of my life lost.

God shows me the future every day & so it's like I am constantly being awoken by buckets of ice water being thrown over me as everything God shows me will happen does happen as I'm going about my normal every day life. God has always visited me & given me thousands of journeys to heavens & hells etc & I could easily pass all that off as some form of creation of the subconscious. But showing me the future constantly & it all coming true is absolute & unshakable proof to me that God is real. God has always taken me to Their realm which is full of people & all forms of life, & shown me an ocean there & all the life forms in it. God demonstrates how They create many universes from Their auric light in that ocean & then God takes me to walk on the new earths that were just created. God then shows me how our own universe is one of those universes in Their ocean & God makes me swim through Their ocean to our earth & walk ashore. And God constantly manifests while I am on earth & pulls me out of the light our world is made from & I instantly find myself under the waters of God's ocean; which is a thick sweet water that tastes like incense. I have read many reports of God taking other people into Their ocean to teach them that our earth is fully beneath the waters of that ocean. Genesis also says God created the universe in Their ocean where it remained when creation was finished. Genesis also says God brought birds & life in all its forms forth from the waters but it gives the impression that God created life in the earth's oceans from nothing when in fact God brought life through from Their own ocean into ours & it came ashore. Far ancient religions from all over the earth show the same thing in their art. So it's clear to me that The Bible & its description of creation is missing vital facts about God & this is the reason there is so much argument about evolution & a magical sky daddy etc. Life on earth came from life in God's realm & ocean & life has always existed just as God has always existed. There's no magic involved it is just that the universe is holographic & made from light in God's ocean, & there are real dimensions around our universe that the people in the holographic universe cannot perceive with their holographic senses & instruments. Life simply came through from dimensions that are outside of mans ability to perceive & there was no magic involved. It's simply God using more dimensions & natural powers than we know about to create universes & worlds naturally. If people meditate & open their minds to the spirit world they will meet God & God will take them to Their dimensions & show them how creation is made. Have a great day

Your anoying and useless music detracts from you points, stop using music.

This is comical...First "Gravity" was the word created in perspective by Newton, to specifically "DESCRIBE" the action of an apple falling from a tree...NOT the cause of that action...Science has two Absolute flaws: 1.) Science refuses to actually acknowledge the absolute understanding of the word "NOTHING"...There always HAS to be something where there is nothing...Physics is hands on science of pushing and pulling purely based upon tangible materials applicable to weights and measures...The action of physics works exactly through nothing...equally... to that of a claimed force of a gravitational pull by something unknown, unique, and un-provable...The refusal to believe there is nothing, aggravates scientists, to the point of becoming like Trekies to create imaginary alternatives...in quite intricate details...creating fictitious models to cover, or venture over the true nothing that actually is... 2.) Everyone can agree that Science has categorized, defined, labeled, so intricately... in billions of details, called science that absolutely rely upon other terms, materials, combinations, etc...Yet Science refuses to believe that it is all designed??? Science would rather believe and force you to believe in Trillions of intricate details of what exists..."PURLY BY DUMB LUCK"... THIS IS THE "ICHRONIC" WORLD OF SCIENCE...ESPECIALLY BEYOND THE TANGIBLE...

what is happening with this shitty AI content flooding youtube, also not watching the Video so idk what this bots point is, but gods done exist and everyone believing in them is a 12th century peasant

Why are there so many AI content bots in science UA-cam?

Okay. So you're finding it wondrous that a planet that's pretty well calibrated for life has.... life? Go look up survivor bias.

Atheists don't claim god exists, that's the theists argument without proof.