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Jacob Sowers
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Georgetown student interested in politics, journalism and psychology.
The Delmar Divide - Segregation in St. Louis, Missouri
Delmar Boulevard is a street in St. Louis, Missouri that is widely regarded as a socio-economic and racial dividing line. This mini-documentary explores the meaning of the Divide, its origin, and the future of St. Louis.
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This project was created by me, Jacob Sowers, a Georgetown student (COL '23) majoring in government and political science and minoring in journalism and psychology.
Please contact jws139@georgetown.edu with any questions or commentary about the video.
This project was made possible by Dr. Elizabeth Stephen, Professor Jan Menafee, Dean Samuel Aronson, and Professor Ann Oldenburg.
Special thanks to all the individuals who were featured in the video and shared their experiences and knowledge on the subject.
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This project was created by me, Jacob Sowers, a Georgetown student (COL '23) majoring in government and political science and minoring in journalism and psychology.
Please contact jws139@georgetown.edu with any questions or commentary about the video.
This project was made possible by Dr. Elizabeth Stephen, Professor Jan Menafee, Dean Samuel Aronson, and Professor Ann Oldenburg.
Special thanks to all the individuals who were featured in the video and shared their experiences and knowledge on the subject.
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Here’s the thing: North County was mostly WHITE when my grandparents bought their home, now look at North County! Granted their area is still nice but in GENERAL North County is terrible! The people MOVE to get away from the “economic hardship” but they go and ghetto fabulous other areas out. The problem people have is NOT with the poor people it’s with the classless, ghetto trash that does NOT want to do anything with themselves. If you’re getting heavily discounted housing, free food, and free education for your child ain’t NO WAY your child should be dumb, or reading below grade level. ESPECIALLY when the library is free and there are libraries in the urban areas. YA’LL DON’T GO. You’ll run to a hair store, smoke shop, and liquor places but not the library or the voting polls. At this point it’s black people’s OWN FAULT for not being prosperous. You do NOT HAVE TO BE A PRODUCT OF YOUR ENVIRONMENT. You can be poor and have dignity and respect for yourselves. Ya’ll kids can’t read and your current mayor is complaining about her Dad’s decked out house not being appraised for more because he made a poor business choice. Then go on to complain about not having more food and malls, when black people should be keeping their money in their pockets. As a conservative black woman I don’t expect much thought process from a mayor who says “she and her son goes to sleep to the sounds of gunshots as lullabies” basically telling the REST of us hard working tax paying citizens to get over the constant violence of the city SHE RUNS. Her job is to keep blacks in that victim mentality so they don’t do better for themselves. There is NO EXCUSE why black children can’t read. NONE. It’s up to YOU to do better for yourself and your children and NO ONE can stop you. If you believe you are a victim and have low self esteem that’s on you, but this narrative of what is now a HAS BEEN needs to be let go so that black people can stand TALL AGAIN. These girls go get pregnant by any pookie and ray ray and then don’t teach their kids shit! Let’s talk about it, cause we see a LOT of black men standing around on the street doing nothing meanwhile you let an immigrant come into this country and they are going to TOWN! YA’LL DON’T WANT BETTER AND IT’S TIME WE FOCUS ON THE BLACK PEOPLE WHO DO!
The line of Delmar isn't drawn on social or racial lines. It's a line between where crime is prosecuted and not prosecuted. No one wants a nice house in a neighborhood that they'll get robbed or murdered in.
Why is it We.. and not I should open a business, a vegetable food store, a local restaurant????
Why is it if White people leave, and crime , goes up… and the all Black schools can’t teach kids.. why are White people blamed?
Im from StL.. they are the same homes, built by the same companies .. and they are valued by the city tax assessors as less… when White people buy houses the locals get mad about raising property values and taxes zz
Segregation is very,very,very,very,very,very,VERY sad! I know because I am mixed (so I'm black⚫ and white⚪ ): my Mum is white and my Dad is black. And that means me, Cali S. Butler, and my sister, Nevaeh G. Butler, are mixed. P.S: I got hearassed in school, so Mum and Dad made me homeschool. And now that COVID -19 is around , I can't go back.🙍♀️ I had the best teachers! One was Miss. Dillon. She was a scientist.👩🔬😭 I was only 4 when I had to let go of her!😭 She passed away 2 years ago(I am 9 yrs old { it is April 26th, 2024}.[I was born in 2015]).🙍♀️ °~° ! ! Please type in " RIP, Miss. Dillon" if you get this message!!!! I loved her so much. 😭🤧😭😔 I'm going to cry! I'M CRYING! 😭 My cat, Sugercube {she's snowy white}, feels what I feel so she is crying, too!😿
Tough on the VICTIMS of crime: St Louis Democrat mayor blames convenience store owners for crimes that happen on their property and vows to hold them 'accountable' for lawbreaking. Good plan
hey Tishaura, your father chose a bad place to build his home, she should have made a better choice. i doubt he would have been stopped from building his home several block south.
She’s a race baiter. Hardcore.
and why is the south side more diverse than the north side? latinos and asians are far more likely to live in the south side. this is no coincidence.
honestly, i’ve noticed people only point out white people segregating. when in reality, black people segregate themselves and are racist towards whites just as much. if they wanted a better life they integrate into the southside and strive for a success but they’re all stuck in the ghetto.
People naturally gravitate to commonality.
U city and central west end are mainly college areas. I have lived all over the world and st Louis is the best. And having lived on Delmar and skinker for 10 years not as bad as you say. Sorry you gate such a good place and I am not even born here. I uave lived both north and south and nothing like these videos. These issues are in all cities
I just wonder why tyranna!
So many people have gotten over segregation. This was a very, VERY long time ago. Long gone days. Only one group of people can not move forward and want to keep it going. The rest of the World has moved on as fools live in the past. No one gives a f%ck anymore. This is very old and very, very tired. BTW, Every group of people to the U.S. has been segregated at one point in time. I am sure that Jacob Sowers does not even know the first and largest group of slaves in the U.S. were White. They were much cheaper than the Black slaves, so they would be worked (TO DEATH) on the most dangerous jobs. Many Irish and German slave knew they would die within weak of being put to work. Maybe go to the Liberty of Congress and read. Or visit the Mass Graves. This will be the same old very tired story 1000 years from now. The Chinese moved on, The White slaves moved on, The Jewish have moved on, EVERYONE has moved on. Only one group seem like they will not move on. Maybe this is why Africa and Haiti look like they do. Maybe it is time to see the World for what it truly is. Speak the truth. This is all about making special privileged groups. AKA Racism and Crime. St. Louis, Missouri will just become rubble like all the rest. Just think about it. They were given the best infrastructure in the World and they can not make it work. It has been turned to rubble in less than 50 years. Their is nothing you can do for this mind set. You can not help people that live in the past and have now values. They can be given everything and will turn it to rubble in just a few years. Get your sh%t together, Learn what family values are and raise your kids right. Blame yourself, This is were it belongs.
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As of now, the entire black areas of urban St. Louis are divided into gang turfs with lines as sharply drawn as medieval fiefdoms.
Race dynamics are certainly at play in Saint Louis. In my youth I attended Washington University. My first apartment was north of Delmar in University City. I wrote a whole bunch of text on Saint Louis race relations but then thought the better of it and deleted it before posting this. I hope things get better. In my experience people are people and there good ones and bad ones wherever you go. Education and hard work will set you free and my time at Washington University really helped me. I wish everyone had the same opportunities.
2023.Missouri is one of the most racist states from St Louis, to Kansas City. Racism destroyed them of them American cities.
North side of St Louis, use to be much better than today,one of the main problems is that you have people buying out home owners and these homes sit empty for years. The north side is surrounded with abandoned homes, most of the homes are dilapidated, weeds, nearly 5ft tall, the city allows this, you can call your local officials, they’ll tell you something just so you don’t keep bothering them, are they respond. I was born here in the fifties, and this north side is even worse.It’s to the point that homeowners are depressed the way we have to look at the eyesore in our community surrounding our homes! We can’t understand how they allow people to buy these homes and abandon them and the city does nothing
i was born in north st.louis on benton street.. i left st.louis when i was 22 years old and im sooo happy that i did...
People just won’t admit or accept that Black neighborhoods are terrible because of the People who live there…
I’m not voting for T. Jones , Cory BUSH , and any other BLACK POLITICIANS currently in office! They have SOLD US OUT! They can’t fix the city for us but they can for Wyte folks … this STATE IS RACIST, this city is racist! And they play right into it for the highest bidder…. Believe what you like the flood was NOT A COINCIDENCE
Integration was a terrible mistake. Ending segregation destroyed so many cities with destructive, violent behavior. Cultures cannot mix.
Businesses found in poor neighborhoods, liquor stores, check cashing, pawn shops, rent to own, payday loans, bail bonds, and convenience stores. Businesses found in white neighborhoods, grocery stores, car dealerships, family owned businesses, eateries & restaurants, coffee shops, manufacturing plants / factories, and banking institutions. Location is everything.
Because we are different species. Black as a collective cannot take care of anything. including each other
Black people are allowed to and do live anywhere they want. No white people WANT to live north of Delmar. That’s the truth. No segregation.
Why is segregation wrong? Like fundamentally? People that are wanting to be around other people want to just be around those other people. Seems short sighted maybe, but wrong? I myself like a diverse place to emerse myself in, but I don't think you should force that on anyone. Why would people want to be around people who don't want to be around them? If the current infrastructure and government of an area doesn't seem fair, go somewhere else. Build the place you want to be in. It might be hard work, but if all people are created equal than surely it is possible to create a good place for yourself. Other people have accomplished this. The only way this isn't possible is if the people just aren't willing to work for that goal.
You're asking why segregation is wrong and then telling people to just go somewhere else. Ignoring the fact that segregation was used to deny people the ability to do exactly that. You are the perfect example of the dunning Kruger effect
@@runtoth3abyss well segregation is keeping people out, not keeping them in. It's the idea of isolating or separating, not including or mixing. So not sure how segregation keeps people from going somewhere where the segregationist are not around. Do you think segregationist are keeping people confined in like a prison? I'm pretty sure people are free to leave anywhere. Except a prison, of course. Not sure what that asking a question and stating the reason for the question has to do with overestimation of my cognitive abilities, seems the opposite rather. So not sure dunning Kruger was what you were looking for there. Maybe, ignorance would have been a better point to make, as I was seeking information that I was ignorant to. Also my question was not about the existence of segregation or what it is, it was about the morality of the act itself. The question was how it was wrong, as in wrong to do as a concept. Like what moral objections would a person have to it? Not what negativity results from segregation, but what fundamental tenet of social goodness it's breaking. It feels like it would be equally wrong to be able to decide who you are to be friends with. I mean if someone really wants to be our friend, do we have to be friends with them? Are we morally wrong if we exclude them? Do we morally have to let someone in our house simply because they want in?
@@runtoth3abyss Any further thoughts or you just giving up?
@@notavailable1216 Your point is stupid. There is no difference between segregation that excludes people and segregation that is just trying to include people of the same culture. They are two sides of the same coin
@@runtoth3abyss Doesn't seem to track with the definition.
I live directly across from this new development I've been watching them from day 1..Been in the area for 20 yrs ive seen and experienced a change more diversity but I'm still not seeing interactions all the people working together. That's what is needed not only live and work amongst oneanother but to become friends and partners so we can truly learn and celebrate each other
Same thing in every West européen countries. Simple , white people just dont want to live where people kill each other and robb ect. Who i am suppose to blame ? Frendly, a frenchi from Paris 🇫🇷
What’s its going to take to get the north side back on track, I have said we love the north neighborhood . I will love to come to beautiful city , but it not I don’t think the blacks want nice houses and home it’s not the government don’t work with the city to rebuild the neighborhoods and set regulations to protect the environment around the north side.🤔🤔🤔
At Louis like pure Death 💀
The divide is a product of self-preservation.
different raves should stick to their own
Even the CWE was going the way of North City, but it was revitalized with a lot of investment by Washington University and it's medical complex nearby.
I saw the crime scene photos of a nude White woman stabbed to death in her University City house by a drug-addled Black man who broke in. Until that changes, there will always be some type of divide - cultural - economic.
I lived in St. Louis for 50 years. Almost 10 years of that in the Loop, right on the corner of Delmar and Leland. I will be nice and just call this piece of work bunk. I dont live in St Louis any more.
I'm still here and I agree.
Racial U-City is split by Olive not Delmar. Otherwise very good vid.
born in st louis in 81. these people cry and whine about the problems of the city yet keep voting for the same old same old. I have run out of reasons to care and hope the city implodes. Democrats have been running the city top to bottom since the end of ww2. Notice who these of schitlibs never blame. The entire city's leadership is black, why haven't they waved their magic black wand and fix everything?
In case you don't know there is no magic wand. Seriously?
Maybe Jussie could do something with this or maybe this could be a PBS Documentary Plenty of victims, just need more drama
Its Whity that’s throwing trash on the streets,.. writing graffiti and stealing everything 😊
yawn
@24:10 you don’t need malls…shop online every mall in the country is going out of business…
@21:20 that’s exactly what happens! The city takes possession and is not doing anything for the buildings….so hire some protection services to drive out the crime for blocks at a time…
@14:35 the reason the values are different is because the house next door is trashed vs a house next to a house that is renovated…it’s not a color thing…Home values are based off what sells nearby… you want to move that same home near the ocean or to California and your house will be worth more… 😂 🤡…that’s how real estate works…
I just started buying in STL and I’m not buying north of delmar because the windows will get smashed out and my tools will get stolen…or arson’s will burn the house down… it’s a simple decision…
I see an area where the residents don’t take care of their property. And I see an area where the residents do. I mean…. Stop breaking the windows, painting scribbles on fences, and throwing garbage into the yard. Maybe your property would be worth more. J S…
Then you will be guilty of "gentrification". It's really a no win situation.
I have a bridge to sell you if you think rich people clean up after themselves
Sounds like typical prejudice talk
@@antonhamilton1761yes, reality tends to be typical
Yes. It's a matter of maintaining your property and your neighborhood.
My grandfather owned property on the 3800 block of Delmar . They bought it out from my aunt in the 90s. This was interesting
Forcing appraisers to appraise homes for more money will not magically make those homes worth more money. It will raise their debt levels(availability of HELOC’s).
Homes in Black neighborhoods don’t sell.. they are stripped of copper pipes and wire in days after they are left vacant… if they are being rehabbed then they steal your tools too…
Great production. Thank you!
Wsg Mr Wright
Very informative. Born and raised here, but heard about the Delmar Divide from one of my nieces that goes to Wash U.
Just visited our son at WashU and when he told us about this we thought we would check it out. It’s crazy how much things change literally across the street. I don’t know how they keep the segregation so starkly separate.
@@edhcb9359 There is a new organization, I haven't heard anything about it yet, but they call themselves Delmar Divine with the n in divine the color blue. They are in an abandoned hospital on the corner of Delmar and Belt. I guess they are trying to change the narrative. It seems like restaurants and offices will be there.
@@kathleengamble9100 It’s really interesting to me because our son is in medical school there and is considering staying in that community afterwards so we may retire out there. I really like the community around the hospital but coming from CA I couldn’t believe how each neighborhood doesn’t bleed into the other’s at all!
@@edhcb9359 You may be talking about Barnes Hospital area south of the Divide where the mansions, Forest Park and Wash U are located. I live north of the Divide where the abandoned hospital used to be has been remodeled, but there are plenty new houses built and historical homes remodeled in the last 20 years north of the Divide. I live in one of those. Good People, good community. No, sorry to say it is segregated, but various ethnicities are in every section of the city.
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