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That six, seven grand you invested in him, he probably made you 200k-300k you crybaby boss. 🤣😢😂

Great advice.

If someone is ready to leave your company, let them go. It never works out well, once they have quit in their own mind and return. Sever the tie, and reflect on your own leadership as to why they left in the first place.

?.. The guy wanted the training money back and then wondered why the guy left him?

Take a long hard look in the mirror they left because there's something better.

Grabbing for pennies will cost your clients dollars in real money and good will. That divorce didn't have to be acrimonious.

Honestly it's amazing a company would be selfish enough to bring up how much they invested in someone when there are no garuntees when bring them on. I find loyalty to a company starts with bridges the what's in it for me aspect is fullish.All companies including hr protect there own skin not the employees so honestly don't spend the money on someone if you don't want to lose it.personal problem not the employees

He didn't want to think out of the box!

Employers are always promoting unproductive people. This causes the productive people to leave or quiet quit.

fuck all company you must get better job and make more money fuck all bosses and managers and companys they tell you you are the family bit they dont give a fuck about you so alweys take your chance

I hear you with wanting to create a culture where people want to stay. But I'll tell you, if I have the choice between two companies that both have good cultures, opportunities for advancement, etc., I'll take the one that pays me $10K more. I have a responsibility to my family to provide for them and if I turn down $10K at no disadvantage to me I've failed in that responsibility. And at least where I live there are plenty of companies that have good cultures. Now on the other hand I will and have left a company for a different place where the benefits were lower but the culture was better.

Not sure on rules in the US , but where I come from an employer cannot claw back internal training costs , but they can for courses paid for external training at the companies expense. I dont know if its unfiar.. to be honest, if a company only just recently sent a guy on hugely expensive training courses.. then they leave.. just seems fair providing its in the contract and the company is open about it from the very start so all employees know the deal... it doesnt need to be a vindictive action. HOWEVER , the line is drawn at a company claiming internal training costs.. such as internal staff time for training someone.. . additionally money cannot easily be clawed back if it puts the employee rate/hr below NATMIN wage. If an employee knows they'll have to pay back training costs and they have an open and honest contract that says so that they have read prior.. then as soon as the company states they'll be sent away for training is a good time to bail on the job.. if they are unsure about the job and are looking around for something better.

I quit my job and watched the company shut down.. seems management didn't understand that I was the company and they didn't have anyone who could replace me or the software I wrote on my own time and copywriter to myself. They didn't understand that the 27 people who used to do my job were replaced by me and my software. They lost millions of dollars. I was making $17.50 an hour. They went cheap and lost everything.

Wise advice.

An employee (let's call him Tom) quit---because of me. I'm really ashamed. I mishandled a matter. He was an outgoing guy who *casually* touched coworkers. He meant it innocently, not creepiIy. My colleague (his boss) and I took him to the office and spoke to him. I said he shouldn't touch anyone without consent, handshakes only. That night, on my way out of a coffee shop, I passed him and his friend; they didn't see me from their table. I heard him tell his friend that I was being disrespectful and unfair, that I shouldn't have taken him to the office. That because of me, he was quitting the job. That's all I heard, because obviously it wouldn't have been right to eavesdrop. I concluded that Tom was just playing victim, not taking responsibility for his actions. Kind of like when you ground your misbehaving child and they make _you_ the bad guy. But then one night, I saw Tom at a pizza shop with a lot of his coworkers. Turns out he had invited and treated them to pizza. While leaving the shop, I heard Tom tell a female coworker (who had gotten out by then too), "No, you don't have to thank me. No one does. Let's just say I kind of owed the crew at work for my mistakes." That's all I heard as I walked. I started thinking, maybe he wasn't being evasive after all. It seemed like he felt so bad for potentially making anyone uncomfortable, he decided to make up for it. Perhaps I misinterpreted his conversation at the coffee shop, since I wasn't there for the whole context. Maybe he wasn't upset with me for correcting him, but _the way_ I did. I thought hard and realized that, yeah, I wasn't exactly being respectful. I made him sound like a bad guy who had no respect or boundaries for others. I should've spoken to him like a _good guy_ who didn't _mean_ to upset anyone. We all make mistakes and are misunderstood at times. I didn't even ask for _his_ side in the office. I didn't yell at him, and my voice was gentle, but it was also kind of firm and condescending, if I'm describing it well? I even asked Tom's boss if she wanted to add anything--right in front of Tom. That was pretty insensitive. So yeah, no wonder Tom wanted to leave. I was being kind of a jerk. I should've just spoken to him in the hall, just us two, and shown some patience, understanding, and respect. He didn't deserve to be in the office with me and my colleague and get an all-or-nothing lecture that made him look careless. It's okay to *occasionally* touch coworkers who *clearly enjoy* you. Compromise. Being mad at me for how I spoke to him is not the same thing as thinking, "I didn't do anything." The situation wasn't _I was right and he was wrong;_ more like he made some mistakes and I was right to address them, but I didn't do it right. We lost one of our hardest workers, and it's my fault.

you say it is an investment, but you give the employee no equity , fuck your client.

For the remaining employees who witness this behavior, they are now incentivized to quite with zero notice.

Suck it up asshats, a smart guy ditched a bunch of assholes. Companies have no moral compass when firing people so why not fire your company by ditching it...kudos to that guy

What do you think about Lou Mosca's advice to Simone Giertz

Here's the video we talk about in the video: ua-cam.com/video/iEAShZ8TJCs/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared

Bet he had no regrets about leaving after that experience. Imagine reading about a company like that before you apply for a job, it would be a big red flag.

If you had decent people and leadership position you wouldn't lose any employees people quitting up because of the job they quit because of lack of leadership

Your client is a jerk and failed the employee, people leave for a reason period! Either they are unhappy, feel unappreciated, or they feel that they are not being compensated properly. No matter what you think at the end of the day if this employee were happy why would they leave? This guy is spot on, if you pursue this and word gets out who is going to work for you in the future?

Investing in employees and they leave hurts. But not investing in employees and they stay hurts worse.

Right-to-work laws work both ways, you can fire me without warning and I may start my new job tomorrow 🤣Pettiness works both ways - client/customer/vendor list, product information, all for sale to competitors

That "bad will" was evident in the desire to wield that hammer, and that desire was no doubt indicative of the work environment that led to that person quitting. Anyone else working there would be wise to look for other opportunities.

well close the company lol

Im 58, ive walked from 2 jobs in my lifetime, one was for safety concerns, one was a toxic manager, no job is worth compromising your physical or mental wellbeing.

Where I live the tech community is very tight knit and everybody knows everybody. If a company tried this they would never be able to hire someone from the region again (some companies have treated people poorly, mainly those companies don't exist anymore for multiple reasons, but in the mix somewhere is their difficulty in being able to hire skilled employees). And unless you're willing to hire remote workers it's hard to persuade anyone to move here as our weather isn't the best.

I had a situation where I addressed some concerns of the business (I was being bullied by a co-worker, left me to do other people's work and made me work 7 days a week. My boss said that he can't do anything to fix that. I decided to quit, and suddenly he could do all the things I requested, all the things I promised, if I just stayed. I left because he didn't care to fix these problems until it impacted him.

No big deal. Just hire someone else.

"Is there anything we can do differently? Is there anything you want to talk about" He is asking that 8 years too late. No wonder the guy left

If you did that in Delaware he would own all your options for the rest of your life.

Didn't expect you to say that. Nice

The question is what pushed him to the point of leaving? I had one boss when I gave my notice offer me more money. He was oblivious that he the main reason, followed by the company sinking into the red and a few years later getting sold.

Companies fire people at will, they should not be crying if people leave at will.

Your client is a complete idiot. No wonder the employee left 🙄 Today's employers think they own the employees🤬

His reaction did not dignify a response by you. You were straight up with him, and if he was a good businessman, he would leave it at that with his employee and you. You’re better off without him.

I just have a hard time imagining being a father now sending your kid off to college or having a new born and some how lying to yourself knowing deep down that your children are walking into a shit and bleak future that you just shrug at

Was 26 working in banking and myself and many college friends are moving overseas this government is satanic at least the Chinese government cares about its people nominally this country is actively trying to replace its citizens and proclaims nation gay butt sex month as its highest holiday😂😂😂

Nothing like having your decision to leave confirmed so heavily by your exit interview.

That's INSANE. Does the guy have NO IDEA that many job websites have FORMER EMPLOYEE REVIEWS built into those websites? I have read tons. They even give a star rating and it says what branch they were at and what position. This shows the GOD MENTALITY that US employers have. I got a cousin that moved from Australia to the US and tells us that the employers there think they own you.

Maybe I translate the term „key employee“ wrong. Is it one of the mist important employee in the company? In my experience, they train other people and are not trained anymore.

The idea of investing in people, in the IT industry in particular, is that 'a rising tide floats all boats'. For example, one company's training of a person will also benefit another company. When a person quits, one company's loss will be another company's gain. In something like IT tech support for example, the sum total of an employee's skill and experience will benefit their customers.

My final employer refused to pay me for the 22 vacation days I had left in my "bank" and told me flat out to never expect a good reference. This after 19 years of working for them and giving 2-1/2 weeks notice.

Nine months ago, I left a toxic and hostile work environment after being told for five years that I wasn't as "fancy" as the preceding guy had been, being paid less than him because I'm female, and being assaulted in my office, which was caught on video, and being told I couldn't get a copy of said video and that assaulter got to keep his job with no disciplinary action taken. I was also told people accused me of being rude (probably because I firmly stood against the toxic work culture). I had been furloughed as "non essential" during the lock of downs, but once revenue started dwindling I was suddenly very essential. The boss was rude to everyone, mocking the elderly, berating the volunteers, and talking down to staff publicly. The staff all complain about the boss but yes him to his face all day. The adjacent school has staff that is the most miserable crop of human beings I've ever seen and they should not be anywhere near the kids. Have you guessed what this workplace was yet? It was a church and my boss was a priest! He asked if I'd reconsider for more money but it was way too late at that point. I hear they found a new guy for the job recently but that he quit after only 5 weeks. Hm, wonder why...

I would say in the ten years he worked for him he more than payed for his training. If it's actually possible to do that I always thought training come with the job

You suppose that’s the reason why he left? Just a money grubbing employer that values money over their people?

I tell that boss, you better prepare for a lawsuit the moment you hand me that bill..pretty sure it'll be in the millions. Have a nice day.

I have worked for the same company for over a decade. I have watched them pull several sketchy moves like this when people have made the decision to leave or have essentially been forced out, and it definitely affects morale for those of us who remain and is talked about for years in the industry. It further confirms that the person leaving made the right decision to go. I will say that our new management team (a lot of the previous owners/managers have retired since I started) does treat the staff better and has not been treating the employee like traitors for seeking out better opportunities for themselves/their families. However, those of us with long memories do not and will not forget. I once heard a quote that stuck with me and I will share it with you. “A two week notice is a gift you give to your employer that they would never give to you.” Food for thought.