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The No-Name Cinema Society Sound Off #57 - Top 5 All In the Family Films (Episode 73.4)
Jim, Matty P and JB reconnect to close out the 9th season. Jim and JB re-cast films from 1947 AND count down their Top 5 "All in the Family" films, which means films in which family members do a film together - either as directors/actors or co-stars. And Matty P just hangs out. :). (Originally aired on 1/9/24 and re-uploaded without clips)
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Bicycle Thieves Review (Episode 73.3)
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Our final classic of every season goes back 75 years and this year, we go Italian with the anniversary of when BICYCLE THIEVES (Vittorio DeSica, 1948) was released domestically in the US. It’s considered one of the greatest films of all time so let’s see what JB, Matt and Patrick have to say about it.
Ben is Back Review (Episode 73.2)
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It’s Indie Spotlight time! Throughout the 2023 season, we’ve been spotlighting Indies from five years ago - 2018. That continues tonight with the drug addiction drama BEN IS BACK starring global superstar Julia Roberts. JB, Angelo adn Kelly break it down and let you know what they think. (Originally aired 1/2/24 and re-uploading sans clips)
Ferrari Review (Episode 73.1)
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The No-Name Cinema Society kicks off their 73rd set of episodes with a review of FERRARI from master filmmaker Michael Mann - released this past weekend. Jim, JB and a surprise returning member break down the biopic. (Originally aired 12/28/23 - re-uploaded to YT after clips removed).
The No-Name Cinema Society Sound Off #56 - Top 5 Films from 1947 (Episode 72.4)
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Last year's episode from 7/24/23 re-uploaded with the sample clips from the film removed. Devon, Patrick and JB reconnect to close out the 72nd series of episodes and answer all your questions related to our 2022 finale episodes. Patrick does a Below-the-Line Spotlight, the three re-evaluate the Top Ten Films of 2022, the Oscars and of course, the #1947inReview. Devon and JB reveal their Top 5 ...
Black Narcissus Review (Episode 72.3)
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Per tradition, we open up our classics discussion of the season with a deeper dive on one of the films from the year we just studied, which was 1947. JB introduces Mel and Patrick to the complex Powell and Pressburger film BLACK NARCISSUS. From July 2023 - re-uploaded to YT after clips removed.
Minding the Gap Review (Episode 72.2)
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Last year's episode from 7/17/23 re-uploaded with the sample clips from the film removed. JB, Jim and Devon break down the first #IndieSpotlight of the 9th season. Every year, we look back at indies from five years ago and for 2023, that means 2018 and so we begin with this powerful doc that is currently available on Hulu.
Joy Ride Review (Episode 72.1)
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The No-Name Cinema Society kicks off their 8th season with a review of the film JOY RIDE (Adele Lim, 2024) - released this past weekend. Angelo, JB and Matt break down the broad comedy. From July 2023 - re-uploaded to YT after clips removed.
The No-Name Cinema Society Year End Finale: 1998 in Review
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Our biggest night of the year is finally upon us. Months of work and hundreds of films later, JB, Mel and Angelo are ready to take a comprehensive look back 25 years to the films of 1998 and that year's Oscar races. It is by far the biggest show we do all year. See what theyhave to say after their time traveling experiment to look at the culture, the industry and the work from 25 years ago.
The No-Name Cinema Society -Year End Finale: Oscar Preview 2023
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Jim, JB and Matt Poilis break down THIS year's Oscar races. They will predict who will win in most categories, who SHOULD win and who should have been nominated. JB will also do a lightning round of the craft categories. These are the films that will define this year for generations to come so let's dig in and get the discussion started.
The No-Name Cinema Society Year End Finale: Top Ten Films of 2023
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At long last, as part of our annual Oscar-week tradition, the society is finally ready to reveal their favorite films of the year as we kick off a three nights of special episodes 12 months in the making. Thalia returns after a long absence to join Kelly and JB to discuss what they think was the best 2023had to offer.
NNCS JB Vlog #125 - Pi Screening
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A special guest joins JB as he visits the Metrograph in NYC to see Darren Aronofksy's film PI as part of their revisiting all the films from 1998 (25 years ago).
The No-Name Cinema Society Sound Off #55 - Top 5 Florida Films (Episode 71.4)
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Last year's episode from 11/28/22 re-uploaded with the sample clips from the film removed. Kelly, Angelo and JB close out the 71st series of episodes with our famous recastings segment in which we re-cast films from 1986 with modern actors and we also do an announcement and Angelo and JB count down the Top 5 Films to take place in the state of Florida.
Goldfinger Review (Episode 71.3)
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For the 4th time on this show, we take a look at the world of 007 and this time, it's one of the most well-known of the Bond films - the 1964 film GOLDFINGER. Max and Patrick join JB to revisit the classic Bond film. From November 2022 - re-uploaded to YT after clips removed.
The Florida Project Review (Episode 71.2)
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Throughout the 2022 season, we have been spotlighting indies from 2017 (5 years ago) and tonight, it's Sean Baker's polarizing film THE FLORIDA PROJECT. Mel and Kelly join JB to break down this complicated piece. From November 2022 - re-uploaded to YT after clips removed.
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Review (Episode 71.1)
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Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Review (Episode 71.1)
NNCS JB Vlog #124 - Thanksgiving Day Movie from 1998
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NNCS JB Vlog #124 - Thanksgiving Day Movie from 1998
NNCS JB Vlog #123 - 1998 World Series
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NNCS JB Vlog #123 - 1998 World Series
The No-Name Cinema Society Sound Off #54 - Top 5 Films from 1986 (Episode 70.4)
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The No-Name Cinema Society Sound Off #54 - Top 5 Films from 1986 (Episode 70.4)
Howard the Duck Review (Episode 70.3)
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Howard the Duck Review (Episode 70.3)
Brigsby Bear Review (Episode 70.2)
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Brigsby Bear Review (Episode 70.2)
Lightyear Review (Episode 70.1)
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Lightyear Review (Episode 70.1)
NNCS JB Vlog #122 - Year in Review Announcement 2023
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NNCS JB Vlog #122 - Year in Review Announcement 2023
NNCS JB Vlog #121 - Oscar Movie Marathon 8pm (Divorce Italian Style)
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NNCS JB Vlog #121 - Oscar Movie Marathon 8pm (Divorce Italian Style)
NNCS JB Vlog #120 - Oscar Movie Marathon 2022 5pm (Butterflies Are Free)
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NNCS JB Vlog #120 - Oscar Movie Marathon 2022 5pm (Butterflies Are Free)
NNCS JB Vlog #119 - Oscar Movie Marathon 2022 2pm (Afterglow)
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NNCS JB Vlog #119 - Oscar Movie Marathon 2022 2pm (Afterglow)
NNCS JB Vlog #118 - Oscar Movie Marathon 2022 11am (Argo)
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NNCS JB Vlog #118 - Oscar Movie Marathon 2022 11am (Argo)
NNCS JB Vlog #117 - Oscar Movie Marathon 2022 7am (Call Me By Your Name)
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NNCS JB Vlog #117 - Oscar Movie Marathon 2022 7am (Call Me By Your Name)
The No-Name Cinema Society Year End Special: Oscar Preview 2022
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The No-Name Cinema Society Year End Special: Oscar Preview 2022

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  • @MrXabungle
    @MrXabungle 22 години тому

    The movie was relatively tame for a raunchy comedy, but the themes and representation were its strongest points, though they could have been explored much more. One thing to note is that Hsu filmed Joy Ride in 2021 after EEAAO wrapped in 2019. No one knew that movie and her role would be such a breakout.

  • @dereksupernaut
    @dereksupernaut Місяць тому

    why do you guys think a manhunter like Brando would be normal, would not he be an eccentric??? Brando rocks, the movie is awesome... Kevin Spacey story on Nicholson: the wardrobe guy brought Jack his costume and stated he was excited to work with him for a 2nd time. the fella stated they had worked on Missouri Breaks before, and Jack declared that he was off his rocker the entire movie. Jack then preceded to put the pants he had just taken off and put them on a hanger and an eight ball of cocaine fell out of the pants... the legendary Jack Nicholson delcared "i haven't worn these since Missouri Breaks"... fax!!!

  • @moog67
    @moog67 5 місяців тому

    The Philadelphia Story is easily the superior movie of the two. Katherine Hepburn, Carey Grant and Jimmy Stewart have a charisma and screen appeal that cannot be matched. Turning it into a musical for the remake just waters the whole thing down and makes it rather bland in comparison.

  • @BigBadMF43
    @BigBadMF43 6 місяців тому

    Nancy has Borderline Personality Disorder. Albert has Schzoid Personality Disorder. Reminds me of parents yet my parents were much sicker. Lol

  • @hairypolack
    @hairypolack 9 місяців тому

    I admire anyione who can finish an independent film and get it out there. That said, I though THE FLORIDA PROJECT was terribly written. Yes they captured that dirty world in an almost documentary style. But the characters didnt develop and there was almost no story nor any plot. I couldn't wait for it to be over.

  • @Milan74
    @Milan74 9 місяців тому

    Greetings from Belgium... Thumbs up here. i love Goldfinger.

  • @catherinebeckham1508
    @catherinebeckham1508 9 місяців тому

    Kate realized, and Geoff problaly did too , that his life was unraveling due ageing and she would be his caretaker before long. I think that is what she did not want to force him to acknowledge. Also the photographs she found of Katya did not show her as the happy smiling girl that Geoff portrayed her as, What does this mean in scheme of things as they continue their life together? 29:45 Kate knows she must add more to her coming life hence her seeking out her old sheet music and returning to her music. I am absolutely enthralled by this movie, have watched it several times and will again. I very much enjoyed the critiques of you guys. Thanks

    • @loro3799
      @loro3799 4 місяці тому

      These are all really excellent points! Thank you. I’m going to watch it again!

  • @margaretthomas8899
    @margaretthomas8899 11 місяців тому

    Larry Parks did not play Al Jolson, or his career, but a constructed version of both - Brilliantly!

  • @margaretthomas8899
    @margaretthomas8899 11 місяців тому

    Well done!

  • @SpartacusDog
    @SpartacusDog 11 місяців тому

    Intersting showdown ciriria and valid questions. J B, you've avoided clarity on wether your thematic knocks are your viewing audience's or are they more personally your own? Unlike George, your youthful age is front and center.

  • @joethelionjoethelion
    @joethelionjoethelion 11 місяців тому

    Nice job here fellows!

  • @kevinbrunck7702
    @kevinbrunck7702 Рік тому

    I laughed at the ignorance and incompetence of these three guys. They just don’t have the insight, maturity or capacity to accurately comment on this film.

  • @yelnickmcwawa5858
    @yelnickmcwawa5858 Рік тому

    Yeah the plane lighting was not very pleasing

  • @archie6945
    @archie6945 Рік тому

    Myrna Low?

  • @Victor-Vargas
    @Victor-Vargas Рік тому

    Bruh cat sitting for your ex ? You're like Walter from the Big Lebowski man damn

  • @MisterRlGHT
    @MisterRlGHT Рік тому

    I watched until the ear-piercing yelling & artifuacts hurt my ears too an intolerable degree. . Then I bailed. Sorry.

  • @madhatter8410
    @madhatter8410 Рік тому

    I'm just so glad that you've decided to do this review because I feel that people are not talking enough about it. Personally, I think this hidden gem of a movie is a master-class in film acting and directing. Both leads are stupendous, but Matthias really stood out for me. This dude is a major actor and he proved himself again in Bullhead, one of the best character studies and acting performances of all time imo.

  • @ShantiLleone
    @ShantiLleone Рік тому

    Awesome!

  • @bobsbigboy_
    @bobsbigboy_ Рік тому

    dude wtf Its 2021 wtf are these cameras

  • @margaretthomas8899
    @margaretthomas8899 Рік тому

    I don't know if you guys, of a younger demographic than me, born in 1950, access The Jolson Story as being overall somewhat flowery, prim and proper, honor thy mother and father, children should be seen and not heard, all the traits, the attitudes that were the thing in those pre youth revolution days. As a kid I was not allowed to watch Ozzie and Harriot, when I was about 9? YOUR NOT WATCHING THAT BOGIES, ROCKING AND ROLLING STUFF. MY mother would say. IT IS ABOVE YOUR HEAD. [ RICKY NELSON ? ] The Jolson Story, was made in the mid 1940's, based on earlier times, but. like other movies of that time depicting earlier, it sort of gives an impression nobody even Burped in those by gone days, to the point of just BEING unrealistic. It is said by some AL had a foul MOUTH, and more problems than one wife leaving him. I am not suggesting. then, now, or whenever? things should, could be taken to the other extreme, than the very nice nostalgic. sweet movie we have, just that more recent generations might respond a bit more to something toughened up a bit, or at least more realistic to life? Any thoughts please anybody?

  • @QBJ-z4c
    @QBJ-z4c Рік тому

    JB Lost the point of the film completly

  • @Jgotmilk555
    @Jgotmilk555 Рік тому

    You live in SF? I'm in Oakland. :) Great video.

  • @soltani8781
    @soltani8781 2 роки тому

    pr໐๓໐Ş๓

  • @alex182618
    @alex182618 2 роки тому

    This movie is perfect

  • @MrBdiddypop
    @MrBdiddypop 2 роки тому

    I think Leonard had bipolar. He seemed to get really hyped up and goofy followed by depression. It seemed like Gwenyth’s character made him high. Vinessa Shaw, who’s a lot more sexy and attractive than Gwenyth, seemed to keep him stable which was not that exciting for him. I suppose the end of the movie, Leonard learns to grow up and what a healthy relationship is.

    • @jombie3281
      @jombie3281 2 роки тому

      I think too that Leonard's bipolarity is key to understand the movie. However, I don't see him growing up at all at the end. On the contrary, as Michelle's choice left him desperate and on the edge of collapse, and as he is unable to save himself from his trouble (he avoids taking his medication), he throws himself into Sandra's arms, hoping she'll save him

    • @MrBdiddypop
      @MrBdiddypop 2 роки тому

      I don’t see it that way. I think he snaps back when he sees the leather gloves Sandra gave to him on the beach. He picks them up and realizes that Michelle would never give him a gift because she didn’t love him. He realizes all he has with Sandra and with her father and his father merging businesses and he’d be a big part of that, his future is hopeful. He has a beautiful woman who loves him and a good future. On a side note, I think Michelle is not a villain. She told Leonard from the get go that she doesn’t think of him romantically but more of a brother. Leonard was just obsessed with her in part because she represented a world he wasn’t a part of. But he got her to go along with the romance when she was most vulnerable. I think James Grey does a good job at making all the characters three dimensional.

    • @jombie3281
      @jombie3281 2 роки тому

      @@MrBdiddypop From your answer I can see how this movie is so great that it allows a half-full/half-empty cup narrative. I agree with most you said, except your interpretation about the glove. To me, it's a subtle reminder about the scene where Sandra promised to take care of him unconditionally. I see this as a powerful and sufficient drive for Leonard to go right away from total despair to propose Sandra. Someone's comment here or there talked about the centrality of caring in love, and how the main characters of this movie are caring, or trying to care, about someone who doesn't reciprocate. The more I think about this movie, the more I find it a wonderful reference to talk about love

  • @MrBdiddypop
    @MrBdiddypop 2 роки тому

    I enjoyed the movie. One thing I sometimes think about is, damn, Leonard got some attractive women for a dude who’s about 30 and lives with his parents.

  • @histubeness
    @histubeness 2 роки тому

    What a trio of the cynical and clueless . At 12:35, the host says the close-up of Bonnie's eyes at the beginning wasn't a close-up, it was a zoom, and then derides it. The camera lens didn't zoom, the camera pulled in for the close-up. And he says he's watched it several times? That was enough for me. I bailed out after that. --Bonnie and Clyde was Arthur Penn's masterpiece, and should have won the best picture Oscar that year. My all time favorite film. --No wonder there were no comments here. --Well guys, at least you now have one.

  • @MrJasonshores364
    @MrJasonshores364 2 роки тому

    A lot of scenes were filmed in Spokane Washington. The day spa, the bridge they driver over at the end, and a few other outside scenes.

  • @jackthomas6952
    @jackthomas6952 2 роки тому

    The bearded guy doesn’t get the whole point of the movie, he gives off “cancel culture” vibes.

  • @c.d.6004
    @c.d.6004 2 роки тому

    Grant & Loy were also very good together in “Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House”

  • @vinr6867
    @vinr6867 2 роки тому

    Good movie. A lot of people face these types of decisions in their life when settling down with a partner. Stay with the secure, plain lover who's pretty/handsome enough or go for the beautiful, gorgeous exciting lover who steals your heart? Leonard does a great job portraying how love can make you do stupid things and leave everything and anything behind. A girl like Michelle didn't want someone like Leonard, but to be fair she always told Leonard how she felt about him; a friend or a brother.

  • @yayodap695
    @yayodap695 2 роки тому

    Try johhny mad dog city of god city of men turistas try the harder they come rude boy the jamaican don

  • @yayodap695
    @yayodap695 2 роки тому

    Manos sucias Is great movie 🎬 idk what movies u like but i got alot more movies to show you try brazil 🇧🇷 city of god city of men or the lic from Chicago ghetto Dawgs intent 2 jamaican mafia the revenant 4 corners south African movies gangsters pararadise Jerusalama or the sicicilian

  • @bobbymcclure5995
    @bobbymcclure5995 2 роки тому

    Nice! Boost your online stats - P-R-O-M-O-S-M !!!

  • @sandrataylor5063
    @sandrataylor5063 2 роки тому

    ffs stop screaming, cant listen

  • @margaretthomas8899
    @margaretthomas8899 2 роки тому

    Just putting the focus on the movie. Explain to me. all the horror you are putting on the blackface!

  • @tenja42
    @tenja42 2 роки тому

    I don't know a damn thing, except I eather like this video in the begining, or end it right now

  • @Icecreamforcrowtoo
    @Icecreamforcrowtoo 2 роки тому

    First of all, I enjoyed the discussion. Everyone had something interesting to say even if I didn't 100% agree with any one person on this panel. It's a very thoughtful exchange even if I have to add my two cents, here. It is a revisionist western, of course. So naturally I think the idea of wanting to tear down the cowboy myth is certainly valid and supported as it pertains to the film's aspirations. This idea of the cowboy as a superhero that uses violence in this tidy, sanitized way seemed to annoy Peckinpah in the context of Vietnam and the late 1960s. That said, I think just jumping to a buzz phrase like 'toxic masculinity' (as per contemporary critical theory) is kind of a shallow critique and kind of misses the bigger, broader more profound ideas being conveyed in this film. Particularly when you see the children with the scorpion at the beginning of the film (which includes young girls) and think about what the film may actually be saying about not just 'toxic' men, but HUMANITY in general. The 'toxic masculinity' myopic people hone in on (seemingly looking for it like a five year old looks for Waldo in one of those books...missing everything else in the process) is merely one flavor or form of a constant within the human condition-- conflict. And weak men with less thumos and gusto can be aggressive and mean when they feel they have the power to act in such a way. So can women. I don't think I need to cite examples. But too often people single out and focus in on masculine men because they are physically stronger than weaker men and women and have in part...due to that circumstance...been more dominant in society and in defining it historically. But that circumstance doesn't tell the whole story about human nature and violence as a whole nor should we act like it does by going to grab bag critical theory terms like 'toxic masculinity'; not if people wish to be critical in a way as to eliminate as many blind spots as possible. As though 'if only'' THAT ONE THING...the old school rabble-rousing boys club, whatever... was put to rest. THEN...then humanity would be on this road to real progress. To me, that's just shallow. The rest of humanity is hardly exempt from the same nasty instincts or urges and Peckinpah hints at that being the case. It's just that the stronger are more in a position to demonstrate these instincts and urges than the weak. Particularly within 'The Old West'. But that's why the film seems 'nihilistic'; he is, I believe, making a point. Virtually everyone (save for a few genuine caught-in-the-crossfire innocents on no side at all) is nasty. And I think this set-up allows for an accurate commentary on life to be made even if it's all stylized and embellished because it's art. This focus on masculinity as something we need to dispose of ("it's a pestilence!" - very Sunday school moralistic, there) for me evokes those sorts of utopian people (the Temperance Movement people at the film's beginning are actually coming to mind here) who naively think there would be no conflict if only...just only women (or men who weren't "macho") ran the world. It's certainly a proposition I think more thoughtful people more often than not view as dubious. So fixating on masculinity in the sense of it being a problem is to me a red herring in terms of mining real value from this film aside from taking in its aesthetics. This notion lacks humility about who and what we are as a species. The sentiment is an unearned hubris and furthermore I think a resentment that I feel is often directed at a certain type of man (due to him merely having power) more so than it is a real sincere solution to bettering the human condition in terms of mitigating the violence within it. I say this sincerely as a guy who was hardly the high school bully or big man on campus. But at the same time, I'd like to think I see a lot of the critics of those people for what they are at times. No less inherently arrogant. No less inherently cruel, even. (Indeed, sometimes it may in fact be weaker less 'toxic' men who are more cruel once they attain power due to a sense of vengeance and righteousness that can fuel their cruelty.) They're just...in a less developed society like 'the West'...in less of a position to exercise such arrogance and cruelty as freely. But we see glimpses of these weaker men who wouldn't survive in the West attaining power as the world modernizes. The more refined German diplomats surrounding General Mapache, for example. They're probably not as 'toxic' as The Bunch (and Mapache to comedic effect pretended to be as refined as them). But I doubt at the end of the day they're any less cruel. They seemingly had little issue with Angel being dragged to death using an automobile. These 'evolved' men are the types of men who got us into the First World War (right around the time this film takes place). Not gruff old school men like Pike who were more crude but at least had a tiny thread of old school honor. Elaborating further with respect to what Peckinpah illustrates about people... when Angel was being tortured, the women were laughing along with the men. Look at Angel's lover, for goodness' sake! Does that behavior not ring as true just as much as nasty brutish men rings true? And if so, are those women beyond "toxic masculinity" or "toxicity"? OF COURSE NOT! So again, just saying "toxic masculinity" is intellectually truncated and cheapens any broader more profound philosophical points this film might be making. And back to the children...children in this film actually participate in some of this violence. Look at who shoots Pike. Granted it was a defense measure but still...is there not perhaps a point being made about its innateness to humanity? To me, I think part of what this film is saying is that violence is an inevitable tragedy of the human condition that we had previously sanitized in older films. And EVEN the honorable cowboy...the paragon of human virtue... EVEN HE can't mitigate this nasty violence...that is... to the extent that he even exists or ever existed in real life. But to me, that statement Peckinpah might be making is not a knock on an 'old school' honor code or even a gruff, "boys will be boys" masculinity. Not at all. There just may be a certain futility at play baked into the cake for humans where even honor can't save you from a nasty outcome. And so violence needs to be recognized and taken seriously because it's not a game. That's positively Greek tragedy to me. Sad. Regretful. Messy. Horrifying. Traumatizing. But beautiful nonetheless when it becomes an art form. The way I see it, the violence itself that is shown is not a knock on honor. Even in the cases where the honor lead to more violence. The violence is just an honest commentary on humans in general (who glorify it and have a voyeuristic relationship with it). And as a consequence, there is no magic formula like honor that sews everything up real nice like you'd see in a 1940s film with Gary Cooper. (A similar futility from a different angle plays out in Pat Garrett & Billy The Kid.) Peckinpah I believe wanted that illusion done away with. With that all said, 'the honor code' was the one thing that was inspired coming from the lowlife protagonists in this film. In spite of its ineffectiveness at eliminating violence or even its propensity to escalate it in certain contexts. Regardless of how brief and ill-defined that code was, it was 'that one thing' about them people could respect and rightfully so, I think. And the film I think tries to make you feel that way about it with that famous walk scene near the end. And I think that's driven home even further by the fact that their honor did have the happy...if positively accidental effect... of leading to some redemption for those villagers (the only truly sympathetic people in the film). If there was any moral redemption in the film at all, it was those people's incidental salvation resulting from The Bunch living up to their code and fighting a futile fight 'in honor' of Angel.

    • @Icecreamforcrowtoo
      @Icecreamforcrowtoo 2 роки тому

      The effect of sanitizing violence in past films and making the cowboy effectively a Marvel Superhero for the 1940s and 50s could have had the effect of leading to more violence because it was easy to see violence as a 'solution' through such a lens. But the idea that we can escape it or get over it or eliminate it from the human condition I think is naive. (I'm not a total fatalist; but I'm skeptical of certain forms of self-congratulatory moral 'progress' humans have for themselves as well.) So again, there is no indictment here on masculine loyalty or an honor code going on here IN PARTICULAR in my reading of the film. It's still seen as noble, in my opinion. The catch here is merely that it can't necessarily make life any less messy. And it's going to be messy with or without it because the honorable and the dishonorable alike are not and are shown not to be exempt from resorting to violence. Schemers with no honor commit just as much violence. Again, maybe violence can be mitigated some at best by simply understanding WHAT it actually is in all its gruesomeness (which Peckinpah tried to show). But I think the 'innocent' children hint towards something innate about humans and the naivety of thinking we can eliminate it in some utopian fashion. If only those gruff old men who eat nothing but red meat and drink whiskey were taken out of the equation...label me skeptical on that 'fixing things'. Pike says without loyalty you're just like some animal. And that might be true. But perhaps ironically so...maybe even he...cynic that he was...was being too optimistic. He was maybe being a bit too flowery and romantic and not really looking at 'the abyss'. Maybe for better or for worse, we all may be closer to animals even WITH nobility and higher human concepts than we're comfortable admitting. He says without honor or at the very least loyalty The Bunch is "finished." Well, they were finished even with it, in fact. They were tragic in a sense. Without it, they're castrated and pitiful and with it they went down in a blaze. It's just that 'blaze' was not necessarily glorious even if it was undoubtedly honorable (if horrible at the same time). To me, that's not a condemnation of honor or The Bunch's code (as laughably brief as its list of virtues was). It just makes honor its own reward as opposed to something that wins you the girl and saves the town's folk in some sappy way. Honor runs contrary to comfort and safety and bourgeois 'rationality' (materialism)/utility and 'happy endings' in general. Electing to die on this hill of 'honor' is more Greek tragedy as opposed to honor and virtue acting as a deus ex machina tool that makes the world right like we see so often in simplistic good vs. evil narratives. Honor in The Wild Bunch can't necessarily provide The Bunch with that last score they all (Angel included) needed. And it couldn't give a voyeuristic audience a happy Hollywood ending but it could give us a sense of the tragic nature of life which is always to me the most profound 'lesson' found in literary art and film. "The whole underside of our society has always been violence and still is. Churches, laws...everybody seems to think that man is a noble savage. But he's only an animal. A meat-eating, talking animal. Recognize it. He also has grace and love and beauty. But don't say to me we're not violent.“ -- Sam Peckinpah

  • @film79
    @film79 3 роки тому

    I never even thought of the kids names in Unforgiven but I always did think the name William Money was referencing or nodding to the name Will Penny.

  • @jakepaulpound-for-pound9418
    @jakepaulpound-for-pound9418 3 роки тому

    Boy, did this film feel like such a vanity project. Eastwood can do everything in this movie, and when he isn’t taming wild horses he’s taming the ladies.

  • @erikaclaverie5224
    @erikaclaverie5224 3 роки тому

    Porque no te callas y das la pelicula

  • @werewolfjones3178
    @werewolfjones3178 3 роки тому

    I'm not sure that any of you touched on the note that 'Arthur' with an accent is 'Author' - which fit the scheme of them being the New York Mammoths.

  • @mmaranta785
    @mmaranta785 3 роки тому

    In the 80’s I looked up Mark Koenig in a Sonoma County phone book and called him and we talked for 30 minutes. At the time, I didn’t know he was in this movie. He was famous for Babe Ruth’s called shot in the 1932 World Series.

  • @pairings9458
    @pairings9458 3 роки тому

    To suggest that "The Lion in Winter" is not a senior citizen film is absurd. And someone says "Harold and Maude" is? That's ridiculous!

  • @alfray1072
    @alfray1072 3 роки тому

    The Last Emperor movie can beat any great movie in every generation.

  • @Digfineline
    @Digfineline 3 роки тому

    The host = Scott Peterson/Jimmy Fallon. I strongly agree about Michael Moriarty's excellence. Malbec over merlot. A-4 A-4 T- 4 M-3 O-5

    • @jjgittes9
      @jjgittes9 3 роки тому

      Yes, I've gotten Jimmy Fallon a lot - unfortunately. And I too much prefer malbec. Thanks for watching!

  • @frank35341
    @frank35341 3 роки тому

    BORRING

    • @no-namecinemasociety6329
      @no-namecinemasociety6329 3 роки тому

      I'm sorry. We worked hard on it and I guess we came up a little short. We'll try and do better next time. Thanks for giving it a shot.

  • @stevewilliams3492
    @stevewilliams3492 3 роки тому

    I think the thing they missed most in this discussion is the singing of the great man himself! What about how great Al Jolson sang these songs for the movie?? He became one of the biggest singing stars on earth again after these movies! By the time these movies were made we had Bing Crosby and even Frank Sinatra but Jolson was able to capture the audience again and he was in his late 50s by this time! What a legend he was.

    • @margaretthomas8899
      @margaretthomas8899 3 роки тому

      Exactly Steve! Parks and all involved do a superb JOB! but the moment the Columbia lady with the lamp disolves into " LET ME SING A FUNNY SONG etc etc, and the mood change LET ME CROON A LOW down Blues to lift you etc etc THERE is NO Doubt it is the Jolson VOICE that is the icing on the cake. the catalyst that will dominate this movie, and introduce the magic of Jolson to a new generation!

    • @stevewilliams3492
      @stevewilliams3492 3 роки тому

      @@margaretthomas8899 Exactly Margaret

    • @margaretthomas8899
      @margaretthomas8899 3 роки тому

      @@stevewilliams3492 Steve think of Singing in the rain. Easter Parade, Yankee Doodle Dandy. My Wild Irish Rose and other musicals , or bio picks generally about some Entertainment star They are great too, and always use the voice of the main actor or some times a ghost? Try and imagine the voice of Fred Astaire James Cagney, Gene Kelly, or even the voice of Larry Parks himself in The Jolson Story/Sings Again.Even popular singers around then Como. Hames or even Crosby or Sinatra? If any of this had of happened it still could have been successful for a while BUT I doubt very much it would have sparked a come back of interest in the voice of and a then legend that has lasted ever since!

    • @stevewilliams3492
      @stevewilliams3492 3 роки тому

      @@margaretthomas8899 Without Al Jolson singing in that movie it would never have been as good because simply none of those you mentioned could even come close to the singing style of Al Jolson! I also love Bing and Frank and Dean Martin and they were all greats in there own right but nobody had that extra thing that Al Jolson had! Al Jolson was like the Elvis of the first half of the last century! I was not even born until 14 years after Al died but i have ears and i listen to everything....There was no one like Al Jolson......

    • @jjgittes9
      @jjgittes9 3 роки тому

      @@stevewilliams3492 and @Margaret Thomas - I can agree that Jolson had a unique sound and because of that, I can agree that it was the right choice to have Parks dub him for the film. I disagree that was the choice that made the film enjoyable to me. As I state in the video, it's the performances and the nuance that they found in their respective characters that makes the film special. As to why we didn't talk about Jolson's singing more, we did mention I believe that it was his voice, but beyond that, it didn't seem like there was more beyond that to discuss especially given that we had a lot more to get to. Furthermore and perhaps more importantly, this show was not about Jolson, but about the film. That doesn't seem to have sunk in with any of the commenters, but I assure you while they are related, the are still very different things.

  • @margaretthomas8899
    @margaretthomas8899 3 роки тому

    It is most gratifying to see the discussion that this has stimulated, and some strong views of opinion. As I may have mentioned previous we are strongly influenced by the time we are born into, or even where that may be. From as long as I can remember being born in 1950, and up until maybe near on the turn of the century, here in Australia, there was not one word in print, in the media, or any way in ref to the use of blackface being wrong, completely insulting and or anything else being mentioned as being anything bad about it.. Nor was there any refs to things that could be connected to it, laws of the times and practices like Blacks not allowed on stage etc. Some things are just totally wrong, such as that! The use of changing one's skin color to represent another goes back a long time, centuries in fact prior to the beginning of minstrels, generally said to be in the 1820's by a guy called Thomas Rice, but a guy called Fredericks something? I think a west Indian, light skinned used it in dramatic plays and things prior. It is generally claimed that Rice saw a black man drunk, a slave, or prisoner, or such? and mimicked a funny dance he did, The story varies to things like this Gentlemen ran on stage, in the raw when Rice did his act, and other, but like everything that dates back so far, specific details are impossible to substantiate. Lets look at it that this Rice Guy initially did do it as a mock, representation to a person whom history tells us was part of a people that in the United States then were considered inferior. THAT FACT IS WRONG! but then we have to look at it a bit further on. Blacking up or minstrels became a class act, it grew from basic ridicule to something that more than not represented a very entertaining product. OK this guy Rice might have for a while got laughs for mocking a black man, but audiences would have soon woke to that, and the effect would have worn off, because it would not have been too long before audiences would have looked at it, as he was mocking himself. Whatever color those audiences were. A good question that I have constantly asked myself even, of more recent times when the general representation of blackface, minstrels is one of horror full stop! is why did it happen at all? or why did not the reverse happen? Blacks whited up? Well often that did happen, and still does, such as with the Australian aboriginal. Both come back to the question that will always be within the preference of the individual were both or either done for insult, or for Entertainment purposes, which even being done for comedy. Is still intended for praise. The time the minstrel show developed was in a time of lots of immigration of Africans and others, and YES much of it at a time when they were, as much history suggests treated WRONG! but it to me is too simplistic to say that all that used the theatrical make up, the music, much of the mannerisms etc of blacks did it totally out of insult and to show that they were inferior to white people. Al Jolson himself recalled in about 1946? that he was the first person to use blackface in a main roll on Broadway, others might have in a small part, a butler or something? before. Even his manager of then, makes a point about Al getting a part in a big Broadway Show, and in blackface, one in fact to open a great new theater on Broadway - the IMMORTAL WINTER GARDEN! Looking back at it now, it easy to conclude so what?? That was his thing.Audiences were white anyway?? He was not really a black guy, It would all be accepted, but then even a representation of a non white person would have been, in fact was a problem. OF course a bit later non whites produced and did there own shows etc, quite justifiably so, helped very much by the endeavours and the MONEY of one Mr Al Jolson, and when a negro chorus sang with him in Big Boy 1925 it was not long before a fully racially mixed one was used in the great Historical production SHOWBOAT! OF course in the times all this was going on, things were not perfect, that is why there was depression and wars etc. There will always be those who will never try to meet on a level ground of understanding or compromise, and because of color and much other will always be adamant that they are right, and, or better than others. Of more recent times it is safer to go along with the general rhetoric that blackface was bad, a total insult, something that made blacks look idiots etc etc!! Even the slightest research into it, indicates that this is not totally true in every instance. Take for example the sequence of Mammy in the Jolson Story, YES if viewed in an out of context way, and just focusing on the fact Parks is wearing blackface, and clouding one with all the negativeness out and about it now, It would take away the real possibility of enjoyment! BUT not if viewed in the context of the plot of the movie, Here is his big Broadway chance, and I don't care what anybody thinks but the great gestures and all Larry implies, and that thrilling JOLSON voice never fails to give me goose bumps! YES it is not reality. Mammy came out in 1920 But it does not matter, nor does it that he is in blackface, but either way, like with Rockabye and others done later with out it, the thrill to me is just the same! I think that even if Jolie did not do blackface, or not as much things would be much difference, he is seen now as the Elvis, the Micheal Jackson the Mick Jagger and anybody else that is still thrown up of more recent times HE is anyone of them of 70 or more years ago, THAT IS WHERE the real problem lies of LONG AGO!! TODAY'S MOGULS, big business is NOT GOING to promote something, or body, that is not contemporary or more recent! THE FIRST THOUGHT IS OBVIOUS THAT MARKET IS DEAD! THEY DON'T BUY ANYTHING! I personally don't think there is any need for disclaimers etc, if people want to they will find out about the blackface thing, the NOW angle without going too far, the real truth they will have to dig somewhat deeper. If they are a necessity instead of putting things into a general broad context it was totally wrong etc etc! Which is a generalized one, note the specifics of the movie whatever that does particularly indicate it is being discriminatory to certain peoples etc?

  • @pairings9458
    @pairings9458 3 роки тому

    This is outstanding. Super informative. Thank you for doing this.