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Lost Ways of Knowing - John Vervaeke
This is a brief presentation that pieces together several talks John has given about this model in an attempt to cover all the main arguments in one standalone video.
Here are the links to the talks used:
ua-cam.com/video/PMBSiWEk6tA/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/Qccd1ndk1W0/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/8F0HYG51eXs/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/bILiVpljIxw/v-deo.html
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  • @BF-non
    @BF-non 14 днів тому

    Can you share this presentation doc?

    • @BF-non
      @BF-non 14 днів тому

      Or the Obsidian Canvas file

  • @BF-non
    @BF-non 14 днів тому

    This is so helpful, I love you!

  • @judgewooden
    @judgewooden 29 днів тому

    The quality is awful. Get some proper sound engineer to record in the future.

  • @oilucaslima
    @oilucaslima Місяць тому

    What a great job you did here, sir. Thanks a lot for this.

  • @gospelofchange
    @gospelofchange Місяць тому

    This is such a great value add, thank you

  • @antkcuck
    @antkcuck 5 місяців тому

    Still finding this useful

  • @christopherhamilton3621
    @christopherhamilton3621 8 місяців тому

    Given the current comments, I’d suggest a companion piece that summarizes the truth/power/presence/belonging outcomes and how fundamental these are to agentic grounding. I hope you grok my meaning?

  • @christopherhamilton3621
    @christopherhamilton3621 8 місяців тому

    Beautifully done. It puts the entire notion of ‘scientism’ in its rightful place as just another ‘propositional’ paradigm. Funny eh?

  • @craigbritton1089
    @craigbritton1089 8 місяців тому

    Where does presuppositional values and psychology come in; and the lack of self awareness to avoid self deception come in? In 70 years of living and observing; I have noticed that these can predict more about how people will vote; create values and meaning; and " create" what other groups to identify with; and which to look down on. And the need to have some group to look down on seems to be a near universal value. And I see a difference between many propositional ideas/ knowledge and semantical ideas/ knowledge. And to me; a lot of the current cultural conflict is because many now want to change semantical knowledge to propositional or even presuppositional knowledge/ values. ( Pronouns and anything I don't agree with or like; or makes me look bad is fake news/facts. Even if it is on film.)

    • @christopherhamilton3621
      @christopherhamilton3621 8 місяців тому

      It’s not changing them but conflating & confusing them. Presuppositional things are almost entirely of the ‘propositional’ kind exactly because of legacy of privileging ‘propositional’ & ‘written knowledge’.

  • @quentissential
    @quentissential 9 місяців тому

    Thank you! Great work!

  • @gianlucacastro5281
    @gianlucacastro5281 10 місяців тому

    Incredibly well done video. It aids wonderfuly those getting into Vervaeke's work. Keep it up!

  • @kjekelle96
    @kjekelle96 10 місяців тому

    Very good! Hope to see more :)

  • @jeroendegeus9024
    @jeroendegeus9024 11 місяців тому

    Wow! A couple of days ago i was trying to find this in the lectures of Vervaeke, half remembering a lot of his work on UA-cam that I watched maybe a year or two ago, but I couldn't find it and I couldn't be donkeyed to rewatch the Awakening series over in it's entirety until I could piece it together again. And now this video popped up in my feed and it's everything I was hoping to find and better! This is gold! Thank you very much!

    • @kompendiumproject
      @kompendiumproject 10 місяців тому

      Glad to hear the algorithm is helping me out 😉 Thanks for the nice comment! ☺️

  • @David-bo7zj
    @David-bo7zj Рік тому

    This is awesome! I see in a below comment you used obsidian to make the slides. That’s a great idea. I have about 500 pages of handwritten notes on my iPad that I’ve been wanting to transfer over to build a vault but haven’t got around to starting it yet. Great to see someone else doing this. And having it laid out in video format is very helpful for review of the info. I have a ton of diagrams for things mentioned throughout the series like sacredness, RR, religio, enlightenment, 8-fold path, as well as some historical maps of the figures mentioned similar to what you did with Descartes and Kant. I’d be happy to send these over to you if you’re interested. Are you planning on making more videos like these?

    • @kompendiumproject
      @kompendiumproject Рік тому

      Yes, that would be amazing! My twitter is probably the best contact: (at)KompendiumProj

    • @jhonyandrade4970
      @jhonyandrade4970 8 місяців тому

      Hi, could i have acess to the diagrams that you developed?

  • @mostlynotworking4112
    @mostlynotworking4112 Рік тому

    Looking forward to diving in! What did you use to make the visuals?

  • @HavocJackGames
    @HavocJackGames Рік тому

    Wow this is amazing. This is so helpful for sharing with friends who are new to Vervaeke’s work

  • @PaulVanderKlay
    @PaulVanderKlay Рік тому

    This is helpful. thanks!

  • @PeterIntrovert
    @PeterIntrovert Рік тому

    What softwere did you used for slides? Obsidian with plugins?

  • @PeterIntrovert
    @PeterIntrovert Рік тому

    It's not really scientific framework. But I think it can do the job as trening language.

    • @christopherhamilton3621
      @christopherhamilton3621 8 місяців тому

      If you don’t see this as a scientifically valid framework, you might be missing something. But you are right: it’s an exceptionally useful & valid starting point.

    • @PeterIntrovert
      @PeterIntrovert 8 місяців тому

      @@christopherhamilton3621 It would be more useful if you substanciate your claim about scientific validity instead of saying that I miss something. What standards this framework accomplish to consider it as scientific and not just philosophy? How you verify it?

    • @slop123456789
      @slop123456789 8 днів тому

      How would you propose to apply science, a process primarily involving observation of physical experimentation, to the epistemological and metaphysical topics Vervaeke is exploring? The answers to these questions clearly lie beyond the grasp of the rational, scientific method. That doesn't mean they should be dismissed as unworthy of exploring or attempting to understand, it just means we need to use different approaches to do so.

  • @luiscastillo303
    @luiscastillo303 Рік тому

    Thaks for this gem!!!

  • @domenicmolinaro6580
    @domenicmolinaro6580 Рік тому

    I've been watching vervaekes material for a few years, and this still gave me some insights even though in my hubris I thought I'd had it down :D the visuals help alot

  • @Adaerus
    @Adaerus Рік тому

    Excellent. I'm sharing this because I believe that understanding this is the first step to getting ourselves ready to properly engage with A.I. I do believe that the danger of A.I. is in our lack of wisdom.

  • @katlegolewele9882
    @katlegolewele9882 Рік тому

    Looking forward to more great videos, thank you for internalizing Vervarke.

  • @anaesheim
    @anaesheim Рік тому

    Great video! I´ve watched several hours of John talking and as a teacher I´ve been really interrested in the 4 ways of knowing. This is the first time I´ve seen his ideas about our ways of attaining knowledge collected and put together with both other important concepts. PS: wouldn´t a better title be 4 ways of knowing, the noe You are using frels misleading.

  • @kaveinthran368
    @kaveinthran368 Рік тому

    This is nice, do attempt to explains all your visuals in this way

  • @antkcuck
    @antkcuck Рік тому

    This video is fantastic, the way you have put this together from various talks/lectures really fleshes each example Keep up the great work. I'd love to see you do the same for him talking about: -kinds of Mindfulness, meditation and contemplation -enlightenment -narrative, normative, nomological orders -relevance realisation - intelligences, rationality, wisdoms

  • @antkcuck
    @antkcuck Рік тому

    Oh wow I've only just seen that you've made a video ❤

  • @climbingmt.sophia
    @climbingmt.sophia Рік тому

    This is wonderful! Well done!

  • @none_of_your_business
    @none_of_your_business Рік тому

    it's about 10 minutes to 1 AM where I'm at. And you made me think. I have spent a year mostly reading material related to modern analytic philosophy. I guess I had some hope that somehow somewhere I will find a door that's just waiting to be opened. As Wittgenstein says at the end of his Tractatus, you climb a ladder, to find out the ladder is made of nonsense, which then you throw away. But you must climb it first to realize. I've had a period where I firmly believed the entire substance of existence is completely contained in the propositional way of knowing things, I've never thought about these other categories of knowing things. I did learn how to bike when I was 26-27. Then I taught someone how to bike when I was 29. Language played a very small role in that entire experience indeed. I mean, I used language to convey the idea of biking and the principle behind the movements as such to hint at what kind of thing you should do with your body to remain "stable", but I could never teach someone how to bike with propositions alone. I'm going to learn how to swim this summer, I wonder what that will do to my brain. I find that in general it's good for the brain, and your "soul" (whatever you may conceive that to be), to engage fully in all these different types of knowing things, they have a way of reinforcing one another, and they indeed are incomplete without one another. We cannot hope to get too far in any activity if we neglect certain parts of the human experience. Thank you for assembling this, I will follow your progress closely.