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The Unbiased, Biased Review
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My Honest Review of the Milwaukee M18, M12 Fuel & M18 Fuel
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I used the IQ 228 Cyclone Tile Saw for Three Months - Here's the truth
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Welcome back to my channel. My name is James and I am a general contractor in Wisconsin. This is my honest review after using the IQ 228 Cyclone Tile Saw for a little over 3 months.
IQ 288 Cyclone - NOT what you've been told..
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Former full-time tile guy reviews the new IQ228 dry cut saw. About me: My name is James. I'm a General Contractor from Wisconsin. Welcome to my unbiased, biased reviews. Follow on instagram: @hew_remodeling www.hewremodeling.com
Thanks bro,I think I just stay getting wet ! the slowness of the cut and the chipping made me second guess it before, but i actually forgot that, you saved me a lot of money, buy you a beer if you ever come to breda (the netherlands) 👍
I had one of those saws after six months I got rid of it, just wrote it off, sold it for half price
Perfect real review. Almost spent $1000CAD lol
I’ve heard precutting the ends a little and scoring the cuts in advance gets rid of chipping at the end an chipping. Anyone tried this yet? I just bought the saw to do skate and ceramic and stone.
Aren’t you also the honest carpenter?
That cut was fugly. No thanks, stay wet
Appreciate you
Hi James. Ive been tiling for 34 years. Theres nothing wrong with the saw. Could be the user on this occasion. Didnt dress the blade to start with. Pushing the porcelain tile to fast. The saws perfectly ok except could have more powerful motor. Every thing you have mentioned is about the balde, not the saw. The machine only operates whatever blade is installed on it. At the end of the day you still cant beat a good wet saw tho like the Rubi ND200 with a 1.2hp motor. Goes through porcelain like a hot knife through butter and because its a wet saw, there is no chipping. Cheers for the vid tho :)
I’ve seen several videos of cuts being done with this saw. It does not always chip. And the ones that look like the saw has been used a lot get the best results as far as chipping. Turning the tile over, making relief cuts then reversing and going slower seems to solve some of the problem, as well as dressing/breaking in the blade.
I buy this saw , very disappointed chip all edges 😢, need my money back
Don't buy this tile saw, really bad cuts on marble
This table saw is not to cut marble, I made a big mistake buying one. Don't buy it !!!!!!!!!
4:02 It takes into account that he is using this saw like a 10 inch wet saw I.e a D24000. This is not a wet saw as can be seen here he is going way to fast and pushing to hard on the blade which is why it is chipping so much and cracks near the end. You have to go slower with this saw and use a dressing stone to open up the diamonds. Make like 30 cuts with it to get everything dialed in and then do some actual good cuts with it.
Great honest review, thanks
So you’d buy what model in a table top. I’m in the same conundrum. I have a large wet saw and 2 montolits. Just need a small wet saw for those heavy ceramic 4x12. Using a grinder and diamond pad gets tiring after awhile. On the cut edges. I agree the cost of close to a grand here. The IQ is way too expensive
I wouldn't expect any 7" blade to cut porcelain floor tile. 7" blades are for softer smaller wall tiles. I use a Rubi snap cutter for rips and cross cuts on 1' by 2' floor tiles and then put the cut edges under baseboard.
You talk too much 😁😁😁
Another year gone by… are you still using this saw? Is this the only saw you would need for must common jobs?
Hey, thanks for the questions. I will be making some videos soon with one being quick update and Ill answer your questions.
Dude I was seriously considering it until I watched your video ….. but when I saw the chipping I was done 😭
Being that the saw is a tabletop saw, try cutting the tile upside down, should reduce chipping.
If unhappy you shouldn't have bought it or researched it, im 40 plus years in trade all others I have used over the years are junk
I did do research and wanted to try it and see. Basically all reviews/ videos of the saw prior to purchasing all praised the saw. Plus it was only a few months old when I bought it. Im sure their are way more reviews now out about it and seeing them I wouldn't have bought it.
Much more realistic review of this kind of saw. I 100% agree that the glaze goes Everywhere. The noise level is also way worse than a half decent wet saw.
I tried an IQ saw that another contractor had. I wasn't impressed. The jagged edge left behind was really disappointing especially for as much as these kinds of saws cost. Also it's pretty far from dust free. It gets the fine airborne dust but the chips and glaze fly Everywhere. Plus the cuts get Super Hot.
За такие деньги и нет возможности резать под углом 45°🤨? К тому же необычные диски, только для этого станка. В чём преимущество 🤨?
Can’t justify the cost for chipping tile. Me and my customers wouldn’t accept chipped tile
What’s the sound level vs. wet saw?
depends on the wet saw. It is fairly loud. I would say its louder than my 7" wet saw. Ive used some MK saws that I would say are maybe a littler louder than this saw
Hello, one question Would you bought it again knowing things that you already know?
good question. probably not for the cost. if it was maybe around half the price I would say it would be more with it for backsplash jobs with ceramic tile.
Thanks for the review. It’s basically what I thought it was . You saved me the time and aggravation.
thank you for the honest review I was at a step away to purchase this item and here in UK is £834.00 which to be honest I would not pay not even 150£ for it after I saw this. There are way more better tile saw and cheaper. Thanks again for saving my money
My did came with the dressing stone and it came with the combination blade
Something most people arent talking about is the time and fatigue being saved by this thing. Ive done tile jobs in some big homes and it wasnt uncommon for me to have to walk back and forth, up and down, just to make a few cuts. It definitely adds up over the length of a big job.
make more reviews man!
Hmm, interesting review and had I watched it prior to purchasing this saw it may have dissuaded me. Fortunately I'd already bought the unit and am 99% happy with it. I do custom renovation commissions and essentially purchased this saw to avoid the mess, effort, and time loss of running up and down 3-4 floors to make cuts with various water saws I own. I use this saw in the same room I'm working in with zero dust issues, incredibly accurate and functional fences, and quick, reliable cuts. Agree cuts not quite as smooth as water saw but a few strokes with diamond pad resolves nearly any minor chipping. Following the advice of my retailer I made about 50 test cuts in porcelain tile and then dressed the blade (dressing stone was in the box). This blade is just the regular blade, not the hard surface one and it cuts porcelain like butter. Have to agree it does seem to chip out at the end of cuts but on critical cuts I quickly mark both sides of the cut, start one side for about a quarter inch then flip the tile around and cut through to my relief cut. Definitely seems to be a design short coming but easily managed, much like the tile bits and pieces that spit out...shop vac and 20 sec effort once an hour keeps work site clean. HUGE time saver, love this saw, highly recommended. PS- it only weighs about 35 lbs and easily carried with one hand up and down stairs. Some amazing design considerations in this unit I really appreciate!
Thank you for your honesty. I have the bigger brother version and same issues........ Need to cut really slow and chips flying everywhere and also forget about cutting a white threshold stone so I get great results using a pro Snap Cutter and grinder with a high quality 4.5 blade. I only need to use a wet saw for situations when I need to cut down a shower curb from 6in to 4 in width. Return that unit!
Keep up the great videos! Please give out more videos like you do.
I own this saw. It does leave some chips from the glazing but it captures all of the dust. I use it in the house with a proper set up to contain the chips, which isn't much to deal with. The right side is slightly elevated but it is parallel to the left side. The right side is slightly elevated to minimize drag. My saw came with both blades and the dressing stone. It's definitely more convenient than a wet saw. IMO....it's only fault is the issue with getting the nice, clean-edge cut. But....I'm working on it.
So how are your cuts one year on then Victor? Any chance of an update on your own experiences of the cyclone. having owned one for over a year.
Thank you for this honest review, I was thinking of getting this saw mainly because it claims to be 99.5% dustless and figure I might save time vs a wet saw. I might just go with the Porter Cable PCE980 instead. I never set up my saw inside a customers home anyway due to the mess and the noise level. I have other tile saws but I wanted a portable one for the smaller jobs.
I use a grinder for 80 percent of tile with the best blade and super steady hand and can make it look jus as good as wet saw
What blade do you prefer?
Hey when I seen your post on UA-cam Channel right now I bet you going to be a dck head and be like all the other tile guys lying about their products saying they're not in it for the money love your honesty man thank you so much please keep the good work
Haha thanks!
@@theunbiasedbiasedreview3195 you you sound confused you're honest when it comes to talking about the machine other guys always lie
A much more accurate and honest review than others on you tube, the others sounded like they were on the payroll.
Haha thank you! I agree! Any other tools you think I should review?
@@theunbiasedbiasedreview3195 the only thing that comes to mind is the variability of glass tile blades. Some will cut thick glass,others not so much… Gary. (45 years and still working).
Omg the cuts look like you cut it with a grinder.
Hi James, we appreciate the feedback. Just a heads up, there should have been a dressing stone in your box. Each saw does come with the dressing stone and the iQ Micro Fence. Here is a link to a video we did yesterday to address some of the comments you listed in your video. ua-cam.com/video/7Hsh8rpjBxQ/v-deo.html If you are having any issues with the saw, you can give us a call and our customer service team would be happy to troubleshoot with you.
My saw did not have a dressing stone in the box but yes it had the micro fence. Thanks for your comment.
@@theunbiasedbiasedreview3195 I have both the 10 inch IQ and the table top IQ. I will piggy back my review here as well. My saws (both table top and 10 inch) did not come with dressing stones. I have purchased the IQ dressing stones myself. My primary issues has been with the 7 inch table top which we premaxillary use for subway tile. Regardless of which blade I use as well as the use of the IQ dressing stone we continue to have issues with the blades. They loose sharp cutting capabilities quickly when cutting soft material...I.e.. subway 3x6. I have voiced my concern with IQ direct as well as through my sales rep but no satisfying results. Actually, IQ's social media rep (Sarah) has been rude and cold in her response. We still use the 10 inch...but I am about ready to throw the table top in the dumpster. FYI...I'm not a novice. 30 plus years as an installer. I have at least 8 other saws. Just not happy.
This is an absolute lie. I bought one and my father bought one and neither came with them. These saws, while they do work, have no real advantage. I’m honestly very disappointed in the misleading marketing and advertising. Wish you guys had a money back guarantee
Mine came with a dressing stone. I honestly don't know why you all want to cut ceramic and porcelain tiles with a saw other than corner cuts. Manual Score and snap tile cutters are dustless, fast and efficient for straight cuts. Where this dustless saw comes into it's own is cutting stone tiles, especially marble mosaics. It's taken hours off of such jobs. It takes a little getting used to and technique adjustments need to happen to get good results. Just for clarity, I've been a tile installer since 1982. This saw has it's place in the tilers tool arsenal, but it's not the be all and end all.
That video is listed as private
If the dust elimination IS NOT 100% I personally believe it to be MORE of a hazard and I will explain why. Primarily because one might believe it to be a ' game changer ' and may not be as cautious. They undoubtedly will bring it INDOORS to use and depending on the work area will determine the vulnerability of one's health even if it's only 5%. I am a Plumber and this dust is the equivalent to asbestos. Would you even want to breath in a SMALL amount of asbestos???? The cost of the table top here isn't as INSANE as what they're asking for with the larger model at $2,500 AFTER purchasing everything.
Eh the review is flawed in my opinion. I actually own one of these however I am yet to use it. Basically though you did not bother to dress the blade before using the saw. With this saw, you must dress the blade and dress it more often than you would with a water tile saw. So right out of the gate you are asking for problems. Also, I think you are pushing the tile through just a touch too fast for this particular saw. I have a buddy that loves this saw but he told me you have to push the tile through slow the most ideal cut. As far as the end of the tile breaking off, that seems to happen with these types of saws and it can happen with a water saw. I'd probably relief cut an inch in or so before running it all the way through. I wanna thank you for the review. There's only a handful to look at on this particular saw that I can find. I'm still debating as to whether I will keep the saw strictly because I may not be a full time tiler for much longer. I'm also a C.T.I. installer number 1673 with 33 years experience (since 18 Y.O. starting in the trade) so I know a thing or two about tiling. Thanks again for the review!
Absolutely agree. I own both of the saws and they are absolutely amazing. I've been doing this for 15 years.
Yes I have this saw and totally agree with you. I did three floors with it and was able to hide all my cuts under trim.my biggest complaint is small chips fly everywhere so really not that indoor usable.the best part about this saw is ease of setup but quality of cut is just not there .would I buy this saw again no to many cons to only one pro which is ease of set up.great honest review video thanks
30 yr tile person and i was skeptical ! Now im not skeptical im convinced i will pass!
I just bought this saw I haven't used it yet, but I hope it works well for $600
I bought that saw and returned. It’s not worth the money! I had loose on sliding tray. Sliding tray and fences are chip made. It’s bulshit saw. It’s not accurate. I even contacted iq company with that problem but newer get any answers...
I’ll add another problem- the mechanism in the rip fence has play and allows the tile to move so rip cuts can be significantly off. I think the links in the fence should be made to better tolerances and may need to be metal to prevent this.
This review is accurate, I bought this saw and I agree with this video. Some extra info, the hard material blade is worth having after some a fair amount of cuts the cut quality gets better. There are some work around a for the end chipping off at the end of the cut, you can cut a 1” relief cut and then spin the tile and the problem is solved. If iq can manage to solve the cut quality problem and the tiny chips flying all over the place this saw would be ace. For me the saw is worth owning because I live in a cold climate where cutting outside can become impossible. Unfortunately you might end up having no choice to set up a wet saw if the cut edge chips really bad depending on the tile yours cutting. So far Iv done a full bathroom a backsplash and a floor and this saw got me through. I was able to make the cut edge really nice with a diamond hand pad set.