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Large Rifle Primer Comparison Part II
Testing various Large Rifle primers with a fine ball powder in a .308 Rifle.
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Large Rifle Primer Comparison Part I
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Part I of the Great Large Rifle Primer Comparison
Battle Of The Brass Finale
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In this video I go over the final round of the Battle of the Brass and discuss the winner and why I chose them. The see earlier rounds, check out my Instagram: the_copper_pill
Reloading 9mm with Gallant Bullets
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Loading and testing Gallant Bullets' polymer coated, cast bullets in 9mm. gallantbullets.com/collections/cast-bullet-collection
Tips for Reloading Safely
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Some helpful reloading tips for beginner and experienced handloaders alike.
FN SCAR 17s Overview
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A quick overview of my rifle and the ammo that I used to shoot out to 1,000 yards. Pro-tip: if you take a shot everytime I say “um” you’ll die. Also check out West Desert Shooter’s video to see the Scar in action: ua-cam.com/video/D3XkvPHJ4zc/v-deo.html
I measure every shot nowadays, and my 10 shots strings are mutch more consistent than 5 shot groups.
This great stuff!
Just what I needed as I was looking for primers on a website and couldnt decide which is correct or best. Thanks so much.
Great job. Just the info I was looking for.
Thanks for sharing.
What's your primer seating depth ? Factory spec is 0.004" below flush my groups are better at 0.007" .. Some like 8 to 10 Thousandths deep..
CCI primers are nickel plated and the hardest to set off. cant get any of them to go off in BLR 308. Federals are the softest.
That rifle groups like a Mossberg Shockwave with #4 buck.
Totally inconsequential since primers are not available ANYWHERE!
can i ask, why are you not using the hornady crimp and bullet seating die. i am just asking, if i am not mistaking it is a bullet seating and crimp in one.
I want to use military primer for 30.06 what’s your thoughts on it
"The Greatest Rifle in the World?" Well, at least the greatest rifle that we civilians can own. I have the SCAR 17S in FDE. Have a Trijicon 1-6 VCOG on board. Very accurate setup.
Comment section: You shoulda coulda woulda... Blah blah blah. Good grief, all these overly critical idiots. Thanks for putting the time into this test. I found it interesting.
Now shoot 40 more rounds from each load , and you might be able to say something worthwhile. Bye.
this test will not work unless you have a load that already shoots 1/2 in or less....waste of resources and time
My FA Perfect Seat Hand Primer docs says the primer pocket of 308/7.62x51 is 0.2085 " which seems to be correct while the CCI no 34 primer measures on average s 0.211" . They are a very tight fit. Almost scary how much pressure it takes to seat them. I am waiting for a primer to take off on me but hope they dont.
I am surprised you got such poor grouping with Lapua...that is what the majority of world class F-class (bench rest) shooters use. In general, Lapua, Peterson is considered the highest quality brass made. Norma(Nozler) and Lake City are are also good quality.
I consistently find with my chronograph statistically significant lower variation in muzzle velocity when using bench rest primers for bolt action rifles up here in Alaska.
Hornady One Shot works best when you follow the directions!
Need to measure from o jive rather than COAL when seating bullets. Get way better consistency that way. Need to get the bullet comparator gauge.
When he fine tunes a load for that chamber, yeah, but he was using the published COAL to get apples to apples data.
And use RE15, 42grs
When you do a test like this use match grade bullets, FMJ bullets just don't do it, time for a retest.168 ELDMs
The change in velocity can affect fine tuning of that particular load, I would evaluate velocity SD with 2 different powders(1 single based, 1double based).This could be done using a simple 30-30, 460SW, 44mag. Only maths of a good chronograph can tell the truth. Shooting groups has to do with accuracy, accuracy comes from repeatability, this is what a primer can affect. Nice video anyway as you have put speed data. 👍🏻
@Copper Pill Reloading Did you start this test with the current best load workup for your specific rifle? If not, what did you expect to learn, without a standard, or control sample to compare too? Extremely new to reloading, and I am missing the thought process.
I believe his purpose was merely to show effects of different primer on identical loads, not necessarily which produced the best group. In that case, it really doesn't matter if it was his best or worse loading, just the differences in "that" load depending on primer used. Changing any component can invalidate any "best" load.
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Wouldn't you get more coverage if you put the cases in a small container, spray and shake/roll it around? Seems to work really good.
I thought Brass Juice was a brass cleaner/ brightener. Didn't realize they made a case lube. Interesting... I came here to find out more about the cleaner/ solution...
Great comparison I’ve been looking for some comparisons like this for primers. specifically 308. what powder did you ever go with? I recently Reloaded 168 grain VLD 46 grains varget and federal 200 primers was getting averages of 2724 in 20” ar10. And 2716 in 22” Remington 700
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Interesting spread between the primers, I haven’t tried my reloads yet I’ve been loading a shit load of 30.30, with three different primers and three different powders. Primers,br-2, rem210, and Winchester regular large rifle. The powders are 8208 xbr, leverevolution, and H335, bullets-flatnose sr, round nose Hornady, and the 160gr ftx. All loaded at midrange charge. I am new to the reload game, and I am hooked 🤷🏽♂️👍🏽💪🏽
Alejandro Flores-Samaniego, Are you able to share your results with these loads?
@@RichardBeauchampTV from a bench rest no, but they all go bang and hit steel target 🎯. i’ve loaded over 300 rounds with all those different powders. i can’t really complain over the loads. shot them while standing. the recoil wasn’t bad at all. my next future loads will be 170gr bullets, when i find them. hard to find bullets right now.
@@alejandroflores-samaniego9320 I am having difficulties finding bullets too. I am looking for Barnes Original FP FB in 190 Grain for the Winchester 30-30. I want to load some bear defence and moose thumpers.
@@RichardBeauchampTV i didn’t know they made that heavy of a grain for the 30.30. that’s pretty cool. i am pretty sure loading a 170/160 grain hot might work well on brown bear. i’ll have to look at my loading books for that heavy bullet your looking for.
I have a SCAR17 I bought 4-5 years ago when they were less than $2,000. I have a a Vortex Viper 2.5-10X32 on it along with a Geissele trigger. I have shot 1 MOA with 175 gr SMK’s. Do you have any experience with the SCAR20?
I held one a couple weeks ago at a local gun store. I really liked the feel of it. Want overly heavy. I’ll be looking into purchasing one later this year possibly.
I’ve been thinking of selling the 17 and going for a 20 if theirs a gain in accuracy. Or I might sell the 17 and buy a Tikka tactical. I’m wanting to go beyond 500 yards.
@@BlackdogADV I would recommend the LWRC R.E.P.R. MKII 6.5 Creedmoor 22" barrel which costs less than the SCAR 20S. I own the SCAR 17S and the LWRC R.E.P.R. MK II 7.62 20" barrel . My LWRC is far more accurate, fully ambidextrous controls, Geissele SSA-E trigger, and Magpul PRS Gen 3 buttstock. Patrick Roberts from TFB TV has a great video shooting the 6.5 creedmoor LWRC R.E.P.R. out to 1400 yards. ua-cam.com/video/WjnQksuHfn8/v-deo.html
Noob question, but can you use Winchester primers in federal brass without them being loose? And vice versa?
Never mind I watched part 2😂
Thank you.
I’m amazed how accurate the scar is with no muzzle brake. What scope are you using? I’m looking to invest in a high end scope for long distance shooting and hunting. Curious to what you are using. Dig the work bench and stickers! Thanks!
•LUNATICRIDER209• Thanks man! The SCAR is definitely capable of impressive some accuracy. Muzzle brakes in of themselves don’t necessarily make a rifle more accurate. They more so aid the shooter by reducing felt recoil. The scope is the Vortex Strike Eagle 3-18x. It’s a budget minded scope but I’ve been able to make hits out to 1000yrds. For a truly high-end scope, look into the Night Force and Leupold or the Vortex Razor series. Those will set you back quite a bit more money but the glass will be top notch. Thanks for watching!
Hey CPR, Interesting video. I did one similar in 6.5 Creed here: ua-cam.com/video/ypI6D-i57uk/v-deo.html I am interested if you do some more work in this arena what you plan to do next. I have banged my head against the wall to think of a realistic test that takes into account the most factors and not shoot 1000 rounds to decide. What I found though too is that Magnum primes almost in all cases give me better velocity statistics, as always YMMV. Thanks for your efforts!
I’m definitely going to to do a few more videos in this series. 5 round groups is certainly the bare minimum when doing testing like this. It provides but a peek through the window at what your widespread results will. Of course there are many other variables that come into play, but I like to keep it simple as possible. I may do a magnum vs standard primer comparison in the future. I’ve always wondered myself and it’s a very common question online. Thank you for he feedback!
Great video, looking forward to the next part!
What type of fertilizer do you use on that brass berry tree? I’ve got a 7.62x51 that just will not produce.
Commie blood seems to produce the largest harvest but Nazi blood is an acceptable substitute if it can be found.
More gunpowder!
This was a great comparison, thanks for taking the time. I have just dived into loading .308 for my Savage 10TR. I think I’ve found the right load, but now I need to find ways of getting better consistently out of it. I’ve been using range pick up federal brass and had decent results, I’m curious if the brass from my boxes of Federal Gold Medal Match will be any better. I’d love to see a similar video on primers - is there a real difference between them?
I’m glad you enjoyed it. It was definitely a learning experience. Most of my reloading is done with range pick up brass it works well for medium range shooting. A primer comparison is a great idea. I’ll have pick up a few different brands up and see what works best.
What gas jet size did you get from Parker Mountain Machine? I am hoping to switch the factory 1.5mm gas jet to the 1.35mm so I can shoot unsuppressed or suppressed without any function problems. I own a 16" barrel (black) FN Scar 17s with a Geissele Super Scar trigger, KDG Sidelok Modular Optic Mount - 1″, and a Vortex Razor HD LH 3-15x42 scope with a HSR-4 reticle. I just purchased a (discontinued) 2016 Silencerco SAKER 762 from my local gun shop. The Giessele Super Scar trigger is like night and day for the Scar 17s. The trigger pull is around 3.5 lbs. compared to the stock 8 lb. trigger. I purchased the Super Scar trigger from Giessele on sale(25% off) on Black Friday after Thanksgiving in 2017. Giessele usually have their triggers on sale several times a year around the holidays. Great (500/1000 yard) shooting with the SCAR 17s stock trigger with the Vortex Strike Eagle 3-18x44 scope in the West Desert Shooter posted video! ua-cam.com/video/D3XkvPHJ4zc/v-deo.html
metall1969 If I remember correctly I ended up choosing a 1.30mm. I bought a few different sizes and took them all to the range. Tested them all with a handful of factory ammo and reloads to make sure it cycled reliably. I’m keeping my eyes out for the next big Giessele sale. I missed out last year. The Saker is what I originally wanted to buy but I cheaped out and bought the Specwar. It works great but it’s a boat anchor. And thanks! 1,000 yards was certainly a challenge. I went in thinking that I probably wouldn’t land a hit but we managed to dial it in and make a few.
Excellent first video man, turned out awesome!
West Desert Shooter Thanks man! This should be the first in a long line of many!