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11:57, March 12, 1928: For you religious psychos out there, I wonder if you'd ask your absurd god for me why he let the dam fail and kill all those people, many of whom were innocent children, but also, WHY HE CHOSE TO LET IT HAPPEN AT MIDNIGHT, when it would cause the most loss of human life, CAUSING THE MOST HORRIFIC GRIEF, and doing the most damage? Was your lord Jesus sleeping too at that moment in Heaven? Way to be watching out for your worshippers, PHAKE PHUKKKKKING JESUS!

SPSF (shouldn't paint so fast)

Wonder what grounds the suit was about because none of those locomotives were even that smoky they all appeared like they were running hard, which they were, diesels smoke when under load that’s the nature of the beast so to speak. Guess the state of California wanted mule teams pulling trains

How bout the dipstick aqmd guy , he driving and looking through cards ..

Diesel engines do work thats what moves america stupid AQMD

Very well done, thank you!

Miss my days of railroading, 2007-2022, but the Class I’s have lost their minds. Insane attendance policies, no way to plan, low pay considering the hours and time away from home. At least in the past more crew members to help out and more locals to work towards. The new changes are not good for anyone but CEO’s and people like Buffet. The public just gets hit with higher prices and less options (more mergers). Oh well I guess. It’s nice to see SP reminds me of growing up and setting the goal of becoming a locomotive engineer (which I did in 2010).

I remember the AT&SF in the mid 90s had brand new locomotives(Dash 8s and 9s) smoking and rolling heavy coal straight from Erie. Incredibly the newer units seemed to be smoke more than the old Dash 7s and 45s and 60s/70s Geeps.

As it is today and was back then, GE locomotives still spew out the smoke much more than EMD. The only locomotives worse were from Alco. Of course, just being able to see the smoke doesn't automatically mean the locomotive was running dirty. It just means you could actually see it. It's like getting behind a car that is not smoking but burning gas very rich. Can't see it, but boy does it really stink and in quick fashion gives you a headache.

i'm here because I watched "chinatown" last night. Greetings from Lake Lanier, Buford Dam GA. lol

Typical government official being a power tripping Natsi 🤦

Medium Weight rateo in the 80/90 's?

Great video nice sets like the all 8000 and all DRGW consists as well as Gyralite action.

I know there are pictures and videos of SP's and Rio Grande's tunnel motors spitting out a crap ton of smoke. Apparently, the engines were "starved" of oxygen.

Best mini documentary on the disaster I've seen. Great work.

Railroads in the 80s have always fascinated me. I wasn’t alive yet. But I remember seeing many fallen flags when I was a kid. I remember seeing SP and Cotton Belt engines on Union Pacific trains. They always looked filthy, like there was a thin layer of soot dusted over them. NS engines were black but still looked cleaner.

I just found this but thanks for sharing it. Brings back lots of memories of the SP in Northern California as a kid in the 80s-90s. Sure miss the Espee.

Thank you for sharing this. So much is gone from these scenes but at least the SP 7330 shown in the closing scene is still working today. CMYX 3098

Do u no Larry bird o g

Great video ,thank you

I suspect SP got nailed for bad air due to the general outside condition of their locos. Dirty locos=dirty exhaust to the public.

Very Cool

Raised in Camarillo in the sixties, we visited the dam in 1965 and the Center Section was still standing ! Not much overgrowth then.

In 1982, I was an engineering student at LA Pierce College. During a Concrete Construction class (I still have all my notes!), I learned some of the issues with the dam was poor aggregate "in the mix" and faulty anchoring at the ends.. So, that really was a DAM shame!

I really like that video of Southern Pacific 1989 time frame video and can you produce more of these Southern Pacific 1989 time frame videos or back a little early like back in the early 1980 s if you can and thanks again oh by the way I m a big Southern Pacific and Cotton Belt Fan

Thanks for the video this is one of the best Ive seen about the dam. You left the drama out of it and reported the facts. Not many know about the collapse of the dam and I found out only because I am a part time rideshare driver and one of my passengers that live in the area told me about it. It was truly a tragedy and many lives were lost.

Great video! Thanks for uploading this

That 3rd train. Man thats a lot of Dash 8s. SP and SSW Mix.

? I do. The east bound would stop and separate behind the tender and pickup tanks of fresh water; connect it up for a Water Bottle; recouple and head east. West bound would bring in Water Bottles (now empty) drop them off and head to Indio. It happened on every steam era train.

Wow! Amazing footage! Thanks for sharing. The narration is also great.

even today those UP engines are real smoky stinkers up on Cajon Pass

The silly thing is it isn't the smoke that's bad*, it's the invisible CO2 and NOx that's bad. Same as Petrol/Gas. Best German study I've seen summarises it as; Diesel and Petrol are relatively equally as bad, with Diesel being slightly more NOx and Petrol being slightly more CO2. Really we need to stop focusing on Diesel vs Petrol, and instead a general transition away from internal combustion engines. But in the mean time, if all you can afford is a used car, you shouldn't be afraid to buy a Diesel for better fuel economy. It's just as bad a polluter as the equivalent petrol car. *OK the smoke is bad for animals to inhale, it's Carbon soot. However, Carbon soot is a plant fertilizer. So once it settles on the ground it's actually good for the environment. So go ahead and coal roll in really rural areas and farm fields. Imagine if you had the budget to shoot countless 100' (2m40) spools of 16mm. Then it could be scanned at 2K and we'd have this in 1440x1080.

1:44 why tf are there so many DPUs ☠️☠️

no worse then the jets that fly into California!!

Amazing variety in those amazing times to be a railfan in SoCal. I was 15 in 1989 and lived in San Diego, but my parents were nice enough to drive me to Cajon Pass, Beaumont Hill, and San Gorgonio Pass a few times per year. I was a total dry sponge with untold terabytes of memory just awaiting railroading to soak up, and I did...as much as I could! In fact, the very last time I saw a Southern Pacific freight with a real working caboose on the end of it was in early 1991 just a few miles west of the location seen in this video, in San Timoteo Canyon. It was on an eastbound heading up the grade. I wish I could find those pictures that I was taking back then. And those U33C's in this video were a total surprise! I only ever saw one U33C and it was coupled to an SD45 in the scrap line at the old Colton Yard, probably 1987.

I remember reading in a magazine or two at that time that the SP had banned their GE's (B23-7, B30-7, B36-7) from operating in SoCal, if not ALL of California because of their smoky ways. And then all of a sudden there were all of these B39-8's and B40-8's running around out there. Yet, Santa Fe and Union Pacific just kept chugging along with their GE's. I guess this kind of sheds light on why the SP and only the SP made that decision. DING $1000 fine..DING $1000 fine..DING $1000 fine..DING $1000 fine..DING $1000..etc.

i'm here due to Frank Black's excellent tune commemorating this disaster. thanks for context.

Hi from england what a fantastic video of my fave railroad the good ole ESPEE!!!!! thanks for posting this priceless record from those days

Best documentary I’ve seen on this tragic disaster

Love this video

Omg that's so stupid it shows how ignorant these environmentalists are that's not a viable way to measure emissions lol

That looks like Rosamond.

What powers the current power house?

I love this video and I miss the southern pacific and Rio grande railroads. Wish they would come back.

For about 2 years I had the assignment as "Manager, Air Quality -- System". I wasn't aware of the video project because it was taken from a General Counsel's approach (courts, lawyers, etc.) In San Francisco. I dealt with the Operating and Mechanical Department approach. I really need to thank the efforts of Operating crews who spotted the "smokers" while running, who reported them to the train dispatchers. The crew's efforts usually resulted in the shutdown of one or more locomotives enroute, and the notification to the next repair facility. The design of diesel engines has practically removed the "smokers" as a modern resolution of the problem. Teamwork approach worked. Walter Gould, retired

what a different time back then, hired for the UP in 2018 and pretty much all locomotives have a camera looking at you in the cab. would have been nice to railroad back then

I wonder if the GP9 was 3194 could almost see the number in the video we have that locomotive at the Golden gate railroad Museum now

Love the footage though and as you said there's a lot of fallen flags in this video, as well as some close to extinct if not totally extinct locomotive brands and models

It wasn't smoking locomotives that did in the Southern Pacific it was poor management for at least the last 20 years of their life

If California has the strictest codes in the country, why did the Oroville spillway fall apart? Answer: the Oroville damn was built by greedy politicians and a bunch of stupid Mulhollands. Complete idiots. Frank Crow built Hoover Dam right. Hoover Dam will still be standing after all the other concrete pieces of crap have washed down river.