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Yes, many bouts finished real quickly! On the other hand there are lots of bouts in the pools before the elimination tournament starts, so you get to do quite a lot of fencing. The rules has been more or less the same since the first competition (2008 I think?), I am not sure but think it is a safe bet that they are mainly designed by Scott.

I agree, many lessons learned from this project! Hopefully the video quality can be better the next time - although I will still not claim to be anywhere near an expert video maker! :-D

You are right, we have not made many videos the last couple of years. Probably too lazy! 🙂 But we are still practicing and will try to make new videos from time to time. We now have training groups both in Linköping and in Stockholm, Sweden.

While it's possible to pull a kick like that off, the kick was aimed at the hand. While this would be a high-risk move, it is viable, especially if you were wearing sturdy shoes or armor. Also, since the hand is occupied with the sword, I wouldn't be as concerned with the leg being grappled.

As with all "impossible" things, they are only impossible until you manage to create the right setup or scenario for them to work. I agree that kicking the sword hand is probably not the first option though. @jamesgood7148 analyzed the scenario well.

There is no absolute security and universal technique in swordsmanship, and this skill will only be triggered in the appropriate time and distance. In addition, the shoes of the foot are enough to protect their feet safely when the other party does not actively attack. Finally, the single/double performance of Chinese swordsmanship contains a large number of exercise and performance movements, which are also common in ancient Japanese swordsmanship and ancient Italian swordsmanship.

@user-tz6ir2ur9k I was speaking from a more combative perspective rather than an artistic approach. Both are important and correct within their context. The original comment to which I was replying set the context from a fencing perspective rather than as art, hence why I replied within said context.

I might add that for us, this type of exercise (binding together lots of applications from the form in a sequence) is mostly about training movement and fluidity, and understanding of the form.

Did you ever do the Da Lu with swords? Dan taught it on one summer camp, I think it was 2007. I have it on video, but missed that camp myself. I asked him about it much later, but he wasn't much in mode for elaborating on it. I got the impression it was mainly an experiment that didn't turn out that well.

Indeed!

Thank you!

Perhaps, but it is also a matter of timing and initiative. We make no claims that this is "perfect".

Probably a combination of inexperience and a tired arm. :-)

Yes, these are cheap one-size-fits-all escrima body protection we use for beginners until they buy their own equipment. It was a great first bout and I also hope she continues fencing!

Hi! We have now been using the swords since 2015, and overall we are very happy with them. So far no breaks that I know of (I think we have ordered about 20 swords in total), so they have stood up to quite a lot of use and abuse. The quality of the latest batch was possibly slightly lower than usual, but still good for the price. We had to tell them to correct the grip geometry so it was according to spec (ellipsoid), but they fixed that so it was OK in the end. Regarding the flex, I think it is about perfect, since I have not yet wished it to be either harder or softer! :-) I can't really compare it with longsword feders since I have almost no experience with those. Regarding the PoB and handling, this is pretty much the black magic of sword design. The first prototype had the PoB way to close to the guard which made it dead and difficult to handle. We did some shifting around of the PoB using weights and figured that a PoB at around 14.5 to 15.5 cm (as measured from where the grip meets the guard) gave good handling and also a correct historical PoB, so we ordered the second prototype according to this spec, and it felt great. The first batch of 13 swords we ordered with this spec, and while the PoB placement varied a bit within the batch all were much better than prototype 1, but not all were as good as prototype 2 which still is one of the very best swords we have got. Unfortunately Regenyei seems to have some trouble believing that the PoB should be this far forward (which is not the case with any of the European swords), so on the standard version on his website he has changed this to 12 cm. Note however that this is measured from where the guard meets the blade, so the correct measurement from where the grip meets the guard is about 12+1.5=13.5 cm. So you have to tell him to put the PoB where you want it, which he does without extra cost. Last time we ordered a large batch, I told him to put the PoB at 14.5 to 15.5 cm, and all were very close to 15.5, so it seems that the variations are much smaller now. If I ordered now I think I would tell him to aim for 15 cm.

@@mattiasnyrell Thanks a lot for the in-depth reply Mattias, I'm glad to hear that custom parameters for POB are possible without an increase in price. Now I just have to convince my training partner, he is planning to buy some training jian from LK Chen but we have no idea how they would compare to the more expensive Regenyei jian so we try to gather all the infos we can find. Full contact steel trainers for non-European swords are still a niche product so not easy to find information. Thanks again! (PS: For some reason, UA-cam didn't send me a notification when you replied so I didn't see it until now)

@@heirihunziker No problem! I think that the LK Chen jian might be the "Scott Rodell sparring jian"? We just got one of his sparring jians and one cutting jian to the club. We will try them out a bit and write a review/comparisson. I can say right now that since the PoB of the Scott Rodell sparring jian is closer to the hand and the blade is more triangular it lacks a bit of power in the offensive and defensive cuts compared with the Regenyei. The guard is a bit loose which is a bit annoying, but I will try to fix that. The grip is also very thick for some reason, which seems very unnecessary. I have big hands and can use it, but I suspect many in our club would have problem with it. Of course the wrap could be removed to make it thinner, but still... Anyway, the price is it's biggest selling point, and for that price it is pretty good. You can always buy one of each and see which one you likes the most. No reason that you need to have the exact same sword.

@@mattiasnyrell The ones my colleague plans to order are sold on lkchensword.com and called "Sparring White Arc". They come in a set of 2 swords and weigh only 604g each and the price at the moment is $360 so that's $180 per piece. If they prove to be any good, I might not have to buy a Regenyei jian at all. The Regenyei is probably more sturdy (and the price is 150%) but if the jian are only used against each other within the same brand then perhaps the lighter LKChen ones are acceptable, at least that's my hope. I haven't heard about the Scott Rodell sparring jian, that seems to be from a different brand. (PS: Sorry for the late reply, UA-cam had my notifications deactivated.)

@@heirihunziker Interesting, I didn't know about those. Tell me how they worked out if you buy them. Nice price, and the PoB is right so there is some potential there. As you say the weight is a bit low, and they look a bit thin so maybe durability is an issue, but who knows?

Thank you!

Thank you, and a happy new year to you too!

Thank you! I find that we don't use the wodden dummies as much any longer, but they are useful to get beginners up to speed quickly or for practice when you are alone.

Thanks! Have you tried it?

Thank you!

JianFa is any art dealing with the use of the chinese jian. Traditionally many (most?) styles of Chinese martial arts have jian as part of their weapon training so JianFa can vary a lot between different styles. The style of JianFa that I practice is from Tai Chi Chuan. To complicate things there are different styles of JianFa even within the various substyles of TCC. The branch of TCC that I practice is of the Cheng Tin Hung / Dan Docherty lineage, Practical TCC or Wudang TCC (Not to be confused with Wudang Pai TCC which is something completely different again). In our training we work a lot with footwork and movement drills, we have 8 basic sword methods in this style which we practice a lot. We like to try to use ortodox applications in various scenarios and drills that are a bit closer to free fencing / sparring, so as to bridge the gap between application training and sparring, to make it easier to learn how to pull of various traditional applicaitons in sparring. I do not know much about kendo, but our practice is not at all defined by a rule set. It is not a "sport" in that sense, but more like weaponbased self defense. I think we have a closer connection between form/kata and sparring, at least that is something we try to achieve.

My thought on leg raises in form in is that it is usually not about reach but rather kicking or kneeing. Sometimes also it can be a (somewhat desperate) move just to get out of the way of the opponnents sword.

Thank you!

@@jianfa_se I was wondering if you could elaborate more on the movement. it really does remind me of baguazhang. but this martial art seems pretty modern. I am thinking basic principles have been around much longer. but I do not think these movements are military in nature because of rigid tight battle formations. probably fits in the civilian self defense context.

@@fareastpride94 In our style of Tai Chi Chuan we have a heavy focus on footwork, and we work a lot with drills such as Nine Palace Step Pushing Hands (Example: ua-cam.com/video/5rknluNoKTw/v-deo.html) and Seven Stars Step Pushing hands (Example: ua-cam.com/video/Xd6CJh3iVXY/v-deo.html). I have created sword based drills for both of these. This sparring bout was from a period when we had done lots of footwork exercises during the classes, so I think we probably both are a little bit more mobile this time than usual. > but I do not think these movements are military in nature because of rigid tight battle formations. probably fits in the civilian self defense context. Yes, I agree.

Yes, it is tai chi jian.

Thank you! Yes we practice in Sweden. If you check on the other videos posted in this chennel you find a few more drills. Seven stars drill witch sword, and also two drills we call kan chou and Heng Kan drill.

Thank you! We use SPES Axel Pettersson fencing jacket, Allstar fencing mask, all star throat protection, red dragon gloves, and some cheap motorcycle type protection for the knees and elbows. The sword is by our design from Peter Regenyei. Minimal equipment depends on the intensity, but I would say fencing mask, throat protection and gloves.

Thanks a lot! I made two wooden jians and i'll try to buy a guards

You mean guard == fencing mask? Good luck with the fencing!

not only ) all the minimal eqiupment)

Right, I see. Well, good luck!

+Zsolt Sandor Thank you!

+ripat8 Did you tried synthetic swords? I am now looking for various synthetic swords, maybe some of them could be used as a jian substituation...

+Zsolt Sandor Not much... I have not seen any synthetic jians that I have liked. They are usually too light. A friend used a plastic longsword for jian practice last summer and it seemed to work OK, but maybe slightly cumbersome due to the length. :-) So far I have used mostly wooden swords for sparring, and we have kind of standardized on this in our club. We want swords with good balance and correct weight (at least 700 g) and wooded swords work well for this. We have been using swords from Tiger's Den (tigersden.co.uk/) and also some made by Raivo Paltser in Estonia and some made locally in Sweden. At the moment we are working on developing a blunt metal jian feder suitable for applications and sparring. So in the future we will use that more and more I think. You can see the first prototype in action here if you are interested: ua-cam.com/video/g4IoE_39_vs/v-deo.html More info will be posted in our facebook group when the feder is ready, it is open for everyone so you are welcome to join if you want: facebook.com/groups/jianfa/

Hello, the metal jian feder looks very-very promising.... :)

Yes they are designed for sparring, meaning: 1. Reasonable correct historical weight and balance. The one I use in the video is around 700 g and better balanced than most metal jians I have come across - I really like it! :-) 2. No pointy tip (safe for sparring) and very blunt edges (lasts longer) 3. Strong enough to withstand lots of force without breaking. The design is by Scott M Rodell and the swords used in the video is from one of his students in Estonia, Raivo Paltser (contact me privately and I can help you get in touch with him). I know there are also people making good swords in the Netherlands, but the best ones are made by Tiger's Den: tigers-den-swords.com/index.html Except that they seem to have an infinite backlog... :-( We have waited several years to move up in the queue. Another way to get some good swords are to get in touch with local craftsmen doing wood craft, maybe those that teach wood craft in schools and so on. Of course you need to be able to specify quite clearly what you need, so it might be easier if you get a sword from other sources first.

xcelva Partly just because to make the excersise more difficult. It is good training to switch hands. And partly because the technique works better when done to the outside. Sorry for the late answer but I didn't see it until now.

no problem jag har liksom börjat träna på klubben så jag har möjlighet att ställa frågorna direkt till dig / den leende katten

xcelva Haha! :-) But still, someone else might be wondering the same thing.

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@@jianfa_se Thank you, I was wondering exactly the same thing.