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Putting The Hack Back In Hack N' Slash | Occultation Devlog #1
The second episode of my devlog series has finally arrived! In this episode, I cover a lot of different stuff. However, therewith a heavy emphasis on defining some of the combat systems and mechanics that will one day define the character and feel of combat. I think I have come up with some fun ideas. I hope you all enjoy it!
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Making A Horror Hack 'N' Slash Game! | Occultation Devlog #0
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The first episode of my devlog series! I am excited to keep working on Occultation and can't wait to show you more soon. Want to support Occultation? Check out the Patreon www.patreon.com/GatorSoup Join the Discord discord.gg/wPGaNsSb Music from Clipchamp #devlog #gamedev #indiegames #indiedev #devilmaycry #gamedevelopment #actiongames #godot
Oceans Away Trailer
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Oceans away is a grid-based puzzle game where you must dodge the hazards of the seas, be they sharks, giant squids, or anything in between, and reach the other castaways. Play the Demo now on Itch! gatorsoup.itch.io/oceans-away #gameplay #indie #videogames #puzzle #puzzlegame #puzzles #indiegame #indiegaming #itchio
OMG Game Devlog ep1 (Octopus Mobile Game)
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I have started working on my next video game! I do not currently have a title so I am just calling the game Octopus Mobile Game or OMG for short right now. OMG is my first mobile game so follow me as I release bi-weekly update videos on the progress for it. I hope you enjoy the video. Social Media: Twitter: soup_gator TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@gatorsoup?lang=en All sound effects are f...
Nano Rockets Release Trailer
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Nano Rockets is a video game about the journey of Guy as he leaves earth to find a new home. On this adventure, Guy will face the hazards of space travel ranging from the simple fuel depletion all the way to firefights with aliens. Nano Rockets is free and can be played in your browser. Here are the links to play it. Itch: gatorsoup.itch.io/nano-rockets Newgrounds: www.newgrounds.com/portal/vie...
Nano Rockets: Mini Game Devlog #1
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This is a short devlog where I explain how I built one of the mechanics from my new game Nano Rockets. Nano Rockets is coming out this weekend on Newgrounds and Itch.io Social Media: Twitter: soup_gator TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@gatorsoup?lang=en The clip of Barney Stinson from How I Met Your Mother Season 4 Episode 24 "The Leap" is protected under fair use. Music Used: "Through Space...

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  • @DanteReaver
    @DanteReaver 3 дні тому

    Hi Gator. Great job making these videos, I'm excited to follow this project!!! Here are my 2 cents. First of all, I'm not sure if tying the block to consuming radiance might make the block mechanic feel really bad or completely unecessary so why even have a block. I think it would be smarter and more fun if instead you could punish the player by making the blockstun animation of the player be very long and only cancelable by doing a dodge. This way the player won't turtle cause the longer they stay blocking the less radiance they are gaining. The second thing is: Why isn't the scoring system the radiance system itself. If the player gets rewarded radiance meter through good aggressive play, and the meter depletes out of combat isn't that pretty much a scoring system?

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 2 дні тому

      Hey! Thank you for the compliment, and the feedback I greatly appreciate it. Regarding the block, haha yeah I am getting closer to just dropping it, it will really depend how December goes, but I am def starting to see it similarly to how you have described it. Initially, the plan behind this defense tax was to make the block a defensive posture with its own move set, and that is still currently the plan, but it has been tricky to fully realize. Regarding the score vs radiance stuff. At one point, the two were one thing but that just didn't seem fair because you(the player) can spend the radiance to use ultimate attacks, and getting a worse score because you used the coolest looking moves seemed really counter intuitive. However, now that special attacks return radiance when executed well, it might be interesting to revisit the merging of score and radiance into one system(it would def simplify some of the complexity for the players). Def something for me to think on, thanks for raising the point! Hope this answers your questions, thanks again for the comment. Always happy to get these kind of comments.

    • @DanteReaver
      @DanteReaver 2 дні тому

      @gatorsoup hell yeah, I can't wait to see what you'll be cooking next, you're awesome! 😎👍 I'm going to start making an action game as well pretty soon with a friend of mine, we're both more on the artistic side but I've been learning design and code slowly and steadily. Your dev log made me realize that we would need a scoring system too so I realized that we could tie the score with gameplay changes and decided to comment!

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup День тому

      @@DanteReaver haha ty! you are awesome. Have fun with the project, I wish you both luck. If you are interested, you can join the discord, we have a few devs in there working on action projects(myself included)

  • @vexicution5533
    @vexicution5533 Місяць тому

    Am glad you made another video, the ideas of your scoring system for your game sounds interesting. The last time we talked I asked if your games was inspired by Splatterhouse 2010 and you said you would have to get back to me due to you not knowing about it, were you able to check the game out? also if you were to make the game avalable on consoles would you make physical copies? Also I want you to look up a game that somewhat fits what you`re going for, there is a hack & slash game called Soulstice, I wouldn`t say it a horror game 100% but to me it has horror elements in terms of the theme, tone and the boss designs. The developer was inspired by the anime Claymore and Berserk, I recommend you play it, if you do I would also recommend you watch the two animes before you play Soulstice just to get you hyped up to play it. I don`t know if you saw my previous message on the other UA-cam video you did so I'll just put what I wrote on there here. One of the things I think that is important is that the character design, it has to look visually appealing (sick), just like what the developer of Stellar Blade said, he think it`s important for the back of the character looks better than the front since that`s what you will see the most. Me personally if I don`t like the way the character looks that will put me off the game no matter how good the game is (and there are other ppl that think that way too). Also making the weapons you use look sick is also good.

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup Місяць тому

      Hello! yes I did end up watching people play through some of the games, very camp very fun. I thought the animations in the first game were super satisfying. Regarding consoles and physical copies: If I were able to get on console, that would be an awesome milestone! However, idk if I would get to do a physical run, that would depend on the nature of how I got on to consoles, and what the agreement would be with a hypothetical publishing partner. Maybe something like a limited run would be possible but we will have to see, thats still rather far out. Regarding Soulstice: I have started to hear about this game as I started work on this project but I have not yet played it. However, I freaking loved Claymore as a kid so you have peaked my interest. I have not yet seen Berserk but its been on the list of things I want to check out. Regarding Interesting Character Designs: I think I replied to your previous message as our talking points ring a bell, however if I did not, I apologize. I do remember talking about stellar blade. Though i have not played stellar blade, I broadly agree with the idea that the back of the character model should be interesting. I think my favorite examples of keeping the players back interesting are Dead Space which made great use of that space to provide the player with valuable information about their health, and Batman Arkham Asylum which used the cape to convey batman's emotional state. Especially in the case of Batman, you are in theory losing a lot of visually interesting elements by having a character in cape, but the devs did a great job of keeping it interesting by having the cape move and sway while also getting more and more damaged as the adventure went on. Rest assured I have been thinking about this a lot and while I have not landed on a final design for the the protagonist, they will not just be a knight in classical grey full plate armor in no small part because it would not be visually interesting from behind. I hope I have answered your questions, and if you have more feel free to send them my way. I will check out soulstice, claymore and berserk. Thank you for the comment!

  • @shrederman38
    @shrederman38 Місяць тому

    the idea of a hack n' horror game is a fascinating one and i'm excited to see where this project goes, but i noticed a lack of ninja gaiden among your influences. if you haven't i highly recommend it specifically in regards to this project as the combat and enemy designs in those games excel at making you feel powerful and powerless simultaneously. i've never been more afraid of enemies in a character action game. for example ng black also had a problem with players turtling behind their block. team ninja addressed by giving nearly every enemy a lightning fast highly damaging grab attack, something you can't block but instead have to dodge. this adds an element of fear to blocking since yes you are protecting yourself from strikes but you're still vulnerable to even stronger attacks and need to keep an eye out to react fast enough. pair this with being swarmed with mobs of enemies, any of which could grab you the second you stand still, and you have a recipe for a player on the edge of their seat. your resonance orb/attack system also kind of reminds of ng's ultimate technique system, though ng doesn't feature a meter for it. specifically the "orb drop->super move->more orb drop->more super move" chain you were trying to avoid is actually a key feature of ng1&2's combat, though the extreme aggression of ng's enemies makes executing these chains easier said than done. the ninja gaiden master collection on steam is the easiest and most accessible way to play these games, though if you have an xbox one or series x/s the microsoft store has the original versions of ninja gaiden black and ninja gaiden 2 available, which are pretty universally considered the better balanced versions of those games. regardless of which version i really hope you take the time to play them, as i think their unique take on the character action genre could be a really positive influence on your final project.

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup Місяць тому

      Hey, thanks for the awesome comment. I keep hearing that I really need to give Ninja Gaiden a play. I def will because it sounds like a really good game and it has come up multiple times. It sounds like its def an oversight on my part to not have had any time with it. Block turtling is such an interesting problem with so many possible solutions. I love the idea of creating attacks that cant be blocked. I have seen that in a number of games and I was wondering if that would be a cool addition, but I hadn't done any of the legwork for it yet. I will check out the steam version of Ninja Gaiden!

  • @ProjectSoulHunter
    @ProjectSoulHunter Місяць тому

    Interesting to see how other people are going about designing a game of this style, there's so much that goes into it, from movesets to scoring,visual spectacle (where you choose between being either uber flashy or more visual clear like DMC) and last but not least enemies that can actually keep up with the player and levels that are interesting to traverse. We're working on a game of this style as well (for nearly 3 years now), took us a long time to get the basic systems to into a state where we wanted them. Looking forward to seeing how your game will evolve over time!

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup Місяць тому

      Yeah its a genre with a lot of hidden work to be sure. I am very much still in the digging for gold and finding the basics side rn. That is awesome that you've put so much work into one already, I will have to take a look. Ty for the kind words!

  • @orobrobrob
    @orobrobrob Місяць тому

    HEYY i'm glad you're back! i'm excited to see the continuation of your project s2

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup Місяць тому

      Haha ty. Yes happy to put out another one! Hopefully going to have more to show real soon!

  • @wolvertox311
    @wolvertox311 Місяць тому

    The tiered special meter seems so cool. It holds so much potential to turn combat into something dynamic in a way I dont think I've ever seen in another action game. Great work!!

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup Місяць тому

      This just made my day. I am so happy that the radiance tier idea resonated with you. I have really high hopes for it and I am super excited to keep working on and expanding it. I am planning to have the player collect additional radiance tiers throughout their adventure and I have been coming up with all sorts of buffs for the player to customize their tiers with. I think its gonna be really fun.

  • @GameCookDev
    @GameCookDev Місяць тому

    You seem pretty educated and you know what you do, and I love that fact! I'm wondering how a hack'n slash and horror game can be combined together, and I suppose we'll see then in the future devlogs!

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup Місяць тому

      Thank you for the compliment! Yes for sure, we will get into the mixture with horror down the road but I am happy to talk a bit about it rn. The way I see it, when we talk about horror in video games we often refer to either outright horror or survival horror, but there is also action horror. Now all three forms of horror rely on atmosphere(aka vibes) and some amount of interplay between empowerment and disempowerment to convey said horror, however the degree to which they each apply that interplay is what defines them. Fundamentally, as much as horror needs disempowerment, it also needs moments of relief in the form of empowerment to provide catharsis. In the case of Occultation, I am leaning far more into the action horror sides of things. Because I believe that character action is fundamentally a power fantasy genre, I think it will work really well when the player spends significant chunks of time feeling powerful and competent only to then be exposed to bouts if disempowerment. Essentially, doing the inverse of classic horror or survival horror. A good example of this that I use a lot is Batman Arkham Asylum. In Asylum, the player feels really powerful most of the time because they are in control of most of the situations but routinely throughout the game, the strength and power that the player has is stripped away from them leaving them in situations where their combat prowess are not enough to crush the enemy, but are enough to only barely survive. The Scarecrow and Croc sections are really great examples of this occurring. In occultation, it will be very similar, the player will be essentially powerful and at certain points that power will not be enough, and in a genre that prizes itself on player mastery and power, what could be scarier than suddenly having that mastery and power mean nothing. The rest of the horror elements will be conveyed through the environment, atmosphere, side stories, and visuals. I am planning to lean heavily into a mixture of cosmic horror and body horror. TLDR: there will be sections where the player cant get catharsis or relief from combat and where they are disempowered. These sections of disempowerment will occur largely outside of traditional combat and will culminate in cathartic battles that return power to the player. Hope this answers your question, thanks for the comment and the compliments.

    • @GameCookDev
      @GameCookDev Місяць тому

      @gatorsoup that's a great explanation, I'm sure you'll execute that well!

  • @itsafish4600
    @itsafish4600 Місяць тому

    Cute character

  • @NiohArcadia
    @NiohArcadia Місяць тому

    I'm happy to see how this is coming along.

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup Місяць тому

      Yay! ty, happy to hear that.

  • @SourPickleGames
    @SourPickleGames Місяць тому

    I like it its a nice spin on the hack and shlash genre

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup Місяць тому

      Yay, happy you think so!

    • @SourPickleGames
      @SourPickleGames Місяць тому

      @@gatorsoup yeah I don't have the time to make a hack and shlash bc Im trash at animation so Im making a horror game rn so I support everyone who has more time and patience to make larger games

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup Місяць тому

      @@SourPickleGames yeaaaaah its a lot of animation work. Thankfully I like animation but learning blender has been quite wild.

    • @SourPickleGames
      @SourPickleGames Місяць тому

      @@gatorsoup respect I'm scared of blender

  • @sowluck
    @sowluck Місяць тому

    Hi! Loving everything so far, the "mana" system is a lot similar to the one implemented in Pseudoregalia you should take a look at it! Good luck with the game excited for what's to come :D The 3 systems seem to be very flexible so far which is a nice thing :D

  • @insinYT
    @insinYT Місяць тому

    love your videos, and game design approach 🙏

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup Місяць тому

      Aw thank you so much. I am happy you enjoy them!

  • @gonhunter3994
    @gonhunter3994 Місяць тому

    Nice

  • @insinYT
    @insinYT 2 місяці тому

    the discord link doesnt work 😭

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 2 місяці тому

      Oh darn, I thought it was set to never expire. No matter, I have updated it. Sorry for the inconvenience!

  • @GameCookDev
    @GameCookDev 2 місяці тому

    5:00 looks kinda like black myth wukong😂😂 Dude I can't belive how much of similarities I have with you😂 I've recently been reading the level up book, I'm a diehard fan of capcom (dmc, re) and the classic gow games (never got to play bionetta though), and I made a hack'n slash just a week ago, without even knowing you existed😂😂

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 2 місяці тому

      Hahaha it kinda does doesnt it. What can I say, we both have excellent tastes in books and games. Awesome that you made a hack n slash! I have your video in another tab and cant wait to see what you made!

  • @Purplinessky
    @Purplinessky 3 місяці тому

    Looks and sounds very good! Good luck to you :)

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 3 місяці тому

      Thank you very much!

  • @keyblademaster8263
    @keyblademaster8263 3 місяці тому

    Yall forgotten about ninja guiden????

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 3 місяці тому

      Yeaaah def a big oversight on my part haha. Gonna go back in play them.

  • @tjreed7797
    @tjreed7797 3 місяці тому

    If you're looking for some low poly tutorials with 2d face later on, I recommend checking out crashune academy, lacruzo, Keven, and MikeRoeGames. Though they lean more towards an anime style than a dmc art style

  • @skave7228
    @skave7228 3 місяці тому

    I feel like you risk to end up with a lot of states if you use it to manage contextual inputs. Like having some state used only for some combo or attacks. I might be wrong but beware of this risk. If that is the rout you plan to take you may want to look at State Charts (there are really good plugins for it), it allow to easily manage a high number of States. Anyway I can't wait to see the next Devlogs !

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 3 місяці тому

      Howdy! Yeah I have also been thinking a lot about state management and worry about ending up with too many states. I have started thinking about what kind of preemptive solutions I have at my disposal and I was leaning towards a system of Nested State Machines, but that also runs some risks. I will totally check out State Charts, thanks for the tip, and thank you for the comment!

    • @skave7228
      @skave7228 3 місяці тому

      @@gatorsoup Hope you will find a solution that is not to complex to manage !

  • @TheParadoxGamer1
    @TheParadoxGamer1 4 місяці тому

    Hey! If you ever want help for cultural analysis and inspiration id be happy to help! I adore this era of European history so if you ever need any info id be sure to share.

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 3 місяці тому

      Hey sorry for the delay in my reply. I have been hella busy. That is really nice of you, I will totally keep that in mind. If you want, you can join the discord, that is where cultural analysis discussions will likely occur down the road!

  • @mlt_sk
    @mlt_sk 4 місяці тому

    I highly recommend you learn as much as you can about animation and visual feedback, thats a big deal in stylish action games as im sure you know.

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 4 місяці тому

      oh 100%! It is such an integral part and I've been learning as much as I can. I have been reading books and practicing 3D animation. Thank you for the comment, it is always appreciated!

    • @mlt_sk
      @mlt_sk 4 місяці тому

      @@gatorsoup Np, and good luck with your project, I always thought it would be interesting to mix genres, im one of the few that somehow loves both stylish action and a game like bloodborne lmfao, and that shit is basically a horror action RPG, so your idea could totally work, hell id say DMC1 being based off of a RE prototype already warrants some creepy vibes to it, that and some parts of the castle and enemies.

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 4 місяці тому

      @@mlt_sk Ty! Indeed, I am always pointing to DMC1, Bloodborne, and Arkham Asylum. I have been replaying DMC1 again (initially for the video but I got hooked haha) and you can really see the RE influence in certain sections.

    • @mlt_sk
      @mlt_sk 4 місяці тому

      @@gatorsoup np! oh yeah i forgot about Arkham Asylum, that game has amazing atmosphere and creepy vibes, definitely a rare thing in games to mix some sort of action combat and horror that i would love to see more.

  • @KotatsuStudioBR
    @KotatsuStudioBR 4 місяці тому

    I'm gonna be honest with you. Dec 2025 is almost unrealistic. You said you don't want to be adding features in 2027, but in a game like this, even being short on playtime, I'd say at the very least July 2026.

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 4 місяці тому

      Howdy! Sorry for the delay, I have been very busy. I appreciate the honesty, and I do not necessarily disagree, and I am taking your feedback to heart. I do want to make clear, this is not a release date though, it is just a deadline for having the content done or close to done. It is a very tight deadline but I think it is a deadline that I need right now for scope purposes. Far to often with passion projects, devs can get stuck in a never ending cycle of adding things and never finishing the project. My hope is by having this deadline, I will force myself to avoid bloat and unnecessary content. Now ultimately there is a decent chance that I will push it back into 2026, but if that happens I promise it wont be a thing you learn about in December 2025, and it will be something I am very public about in these devlogs over the course of development. I really appreciate your comment and your feedback.

  • @dantexpcd
    @dantexpcd 4 місяці тому

    dude it reminds me a lot of alien hominid i really hope you get more project off the ground I will be following your channel from now on!

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 3 місяці тому

      aw ty. I really appreciate that. Yeah this was one of my early games and it was very inspired by those flash games.

  • @dantexpcd
    @dantexpcd 4 місяці тому

    can i suggest a enemy ai recomendation via f.e.a.r and ninja gaiden are you going to mix some body horror to the game?

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 4 місяці тому

      Love fear, I will checkout Ninja Gaiden! There will be elements of body horror for sure. Thank you for the comment!

  • @vexicution5533
    @vexicution5533 4 місяці тому

    It`s cool that you making a horror hack & slash game. I have some questions: Does your game have similarities to the 2010`s HnS game splatterhouse? Will it be on consoles? How long do you want the game to be? Will you consider the ability to change the character`s outfit? Will your game have one-off action sequences? (air diving, driving, using a torrent, chase sequences) Will you consider to be able to replay the story chapters from the main menu? Will the game have platforming? Will you consider adding button config?

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 4 місяці тому

      Hey! Ty for the questions, I will do my best to answer them. (Please note I am still early in development so some of this info may change as development continues.) Q: Does your game have similarities to the 2010`s HnS game splatterhouse? A: I only just heard about Splatterhouse and though it was a retro game series from the NES/SNES Era. I will have to checkout the 2010 splatterhouse and get back to you. Q: Will it be on consoles? A: As of now, it is just planned for PC, but if i were to secure funding or a publishing deal it would be really cool to bring the game to consoles. Q: How long do you want the game to be? A: Right now I have only a vague objective for time and that is at a minimum 6 hours. Q: Will you consider the ability to change the character`s outfit? A: It is 100% being considered and is on the feature wishlist. Q: Will your game have one-off action sequences? (air diving, driving, using a torrent, chase sequences) A: I honestly am still debating this. Q: Will you consider to be able to replay the story chapters from the main menu? A: Yes, as of right now the plan is to let you replay chapters. Q: Will the game have platforming? A: Yes, some light platforming is expected. Q: Will you consider adding button config? A: 100% Thank you for the questions, I think I answered all of them.

    • @vexicution5533
      @vexicution5533 4 місяці тому

      @@gatorsoup Thanks for answering my questions, I hope you are able to make it available for consoles. Just to give you some tips/ideas: One of the things I think that is important is that the character has to look sick, just like what the developer of Stellar Blade said, he think it`s important for the back of the character looks better than the front since that`s what you will see the most. Me personally if I don`t like the way the character looks that will put me off the game no matter how good the game is (and there are other ppl that think that way too). Also make the weapons you use look sick too. When it comes to bosses, I think they should be different on how you deal with them, from hacking and slashing, dodging and parry to using the environment/ enemy's attacks against the enemy. While having high graphics is good and all I think having an art style to a game is better than having amazing graphics (Soulstice being an example). I think it would be cool if you add things in the extra section like enemy logs, viewing cutscens, selecting music to listen to, this could be collectables in the game you have to find. Pacing is important, if you can change the gameplay up sometimes that would give the gameplay more ways to play, example switching camera perspectives, using guns, playing a different character, driving a car etc. Since you are making a horror HnS game Splatterhouse would be a good source of inspiration, for monster designs you can look up an anime called Claymore. I know you said that you want the game to be complete before the end of 2025, If I had to make an educated guess I'd say your game would come out in 2029 due to how long games take to make.

  • @totallyyohan8894
    @totallyyohan8894 4 місяці тому

    This somehow came into my feed and I immediately subbed to your channel I can't wait to see what kinda game you'll create, have fun making it!

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 4 місяці тому

      Yay, thank you for the sub, I am very excited about working on the game as well. Thank you!

  • @mimadm4832
    @mimadm4832 4 місяці тому

    Hey man, good luck with the project, I am really interested in what you are going to make, is there a way to communicate with you directly and privately?

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 4 місяці тому

      Howdy, thank you for the kind words! The best way to communicate with me is probs the public discord. The link is in the description.

    • @mimadm4832
      @mimadm4832 4 місяці тому

      @@gatorsoup I have tried it and it says that invitation is invalid

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 4 місяці тому

      @@mimadm4832 oooops my bad. Fixed it. sorry about that

    • @mimadm4832
      @mimadm4832 4 місяці тому

      ​@@gatorsoup thank you man

  • @DissonantSynth
    @DissonantSynth 5 місяців тому

    Your lil gator avatar is the cutest

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 5 місяців тому

      Ty kindly! I love this lil gator avatar as well.

  • @NguyenHuuTrung_
    @NguyenHuuTrung_ 5 місяців тому

    I find concept of a horror hack'n'slash game very intriguing, but what you're making sound like a hack'n'slash game with horror elements. Horror games put you in a vulnerable position, using all kinds of methods to not just cause fear, but to disturb the human's brain on a psychological level, while hack'n'slash games are nearly the opposite, having you play as a very capable war machine with countless tools in your disposal to wreak havoc on your foes no matter how horrifying they are, essentially giving the player ways to make their own power fantasy if they're creative and hard working enough. I love these two genres, so I wish to mix them, a seemingly impossible task. I saw some action games on the market that tried similar things over the years but none have done it "right" in my opinions: We have the Soulborne series, that put the player in a destroyed, hostile world where there are sadness, tragedies and monstrosities all around the corner while giving the players countless weapons and means to better themself and advance. Yes the settings are horrifying and the player character can be a badass if you play it right but the genre isn't really hack'n'slash and the horror elements are kind of underminded when you can kill gods left and right once you level up and git gud, not to mention most of the horror don't seem personal, they're the results of the surrounding world and you're just living in it. Bloodborne is especially guilty of this, the game has many cosmic horror story elements but at it's core it is NOT a cosmic horror story, at all. The closest that I found that somewhat scratch that itch is Resident evil 4 Remake, it's not hack'n'slash but you're still playing as a very capable badass who's in a horrifying position. Leon is very skilled, yes, but he's still flesh and blood and his tools and resources are very limited, there're danger in every corners and enemies always come in droves so if he's not being a badass for even one moment or make one wrong choice then he's dead. He has many weapons but they have to be used wisely, he's in enemy territory so the chance of getting blindsided is real thus tension never dissapear, he's making jokes not because he's cocky but to try and lighten up the situation for himself because he's just a well trained human being hunted by literral monters and abominations human mind can't imagine. I feel like this can be used for a horror hack'n'slash game, since because you're a badass, the horror doesn't mainly come from the monsters and the jumpscares (though they can still be factors of it), but from the situation itself, where threats and dangers are always present whether physical or not. There might be other ways to make horror hack'n'slash game, but this is the one I know and liked the most.

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 5 місяців тому

      Howdy, thank you for the comment, I really enjoyed reading it, and it is greatly appreciated! (honest, Reading it made me really happy, and I love a lot of the points you made) I answered a similar comment a few days ago so please forgive me if I reuse some of my examples. You hit it the nail on the head with "since because you're a badass, the horror doesn't mainly come from the monsters and the jumpscares (though they can still be factors of it), but from the situation itself, where threats and dangers are always present whether physical or not. There might be other ways to make horror hack'n'slash game, but this is the one I know and liked the most." At a fundamental level, much of horror relies on disempowerment and hack n slash relies on providing you with the opportunity to exercise power/skill, and while these two thing seem diametrically opposed it is not necessarily so. My thinking for the game right now is that there will be sections where the player is a great capable warrior i.e. where they have room to exercise their skill and power, and this will make the sections where they become disempowered that much scarier. Because, never having power and facing monsters is scary, having power and it not mattering anymore is is terrifying. A great example of this in another game is Batman Arkham Asylum(mild spoilers), where the combat sections make you feel awesome because you are Batman, but then the Scarecrow sections and Killer Croc sections are genuinely scary because it does not matter that you are Batman anymore. Furthermore, what makes horror bearable/great is eventually the hero wins and we get this wave of catharsis and empowerment which in my game will be exemplified by the hack n slash elements. I love that you used Resident Evil 4 as an example because I think about that game a lot haha (also a fav of mine) It's basically like you said with Leon, he has to keep being a badass to survive, he is capable, and quips to make sense of his situation, and if he were to falter it would be over, so what would happen if it became clear that his being a badass didn't matter anymore, and that what he faces in that moment does not care? This balancing act/ tug of war between being capable, and it not mattering is exactly what I am going for with my game. The world will be full of tension always and the player will have to keep being a badass to make it through but there are going to be moments where it feels like being a badass is not enough. Ultimately it this still very early on in development and a lot of this is theoretical and may change, but right now I have loads of scary ideas for the game and I am excited to make them a reality. Thank you for the comment, I really enjoyed reading it, and love how it made me think about my project. p.s. sorry for any typos, I just woke up.

    • @NguyenHuuTrung_
      @NguyenHuuTrung_ 5 місяців тому

      @@gatorsoup Thanks a lot ! From what you said, it'd seem the game will be very promisng. Though I expect it'd be no easy task, since all of the stuffs I mentioned sound good on paper, yet they've been practiced many times throughout video games history and only very few have hit the mark. Nonetheless, I'll be looking forward to the game, good luck.

  • @sibel9272
    @sibel9272 5 місяців тому

    So how would you handle movesets for weapons? Would you have a weapon with all the nodes for each move, or make a resource for every move?

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 5 місяців тому

      Hey that is a great question. So right now, I have not really planned that far ahead, however at a passing thought level, I would probably upgrade my player state machine to be a Hierarchal state machine where I could use sub states that would also be state machines with the new weapon moves. By having sub-state machines I would hopefully avoid state clutter while also keeping each weapon move set nicely centralized. This is just a guess though, because I am not that far yet, for all I know this could be a terrible solution. I hope this answers your question for now!

  • @yev2610
    @yev2610 5 місяців тому

    Lets gooooooooo🎉

  • @indieemil
    @indieemil 5 місяців тому

    Looking forward to follow this 😄

  • @Erian1mortal
    @Erian1mortal 5 місяців тому

    So you had the same idea me (graphics designer) and my teammate (programmer) had 3 years ago, making a game ourselves. Gonna keep an eye on your project as well, looks like a promising start!

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 5 місяців тому

      Haha that's pretty cool! Ty, and good luck with your project as well! I look forward to seeing your game down the road!

    • @NguyenHuuTrung_
      @NguyenHuuTrung_ 5 місяців тому

      @@gatorsoup I hope you take a look at the more recent comments, I think I've rant too much but horror hack'n'slash is a very intersing idea that I'd like to go in-depth about, hope the game development'll go well.

  • @ThisIsYourGodNow
    @ThisIsYourGodNow 5 місяців тому

    bro please play the original Splatterhouse trilogy. The first ever horror action game franchise, and the best. You will be inspired for your whole life!

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 5 місяців тому

      I have heard the name but I don't think I have ever played them. I will take a look!

  • @tysorex
    @tysorex 5 місяців тому

    the gator pgn is the CUTEST!! Kept me engaged throughout because he's so well drawn and adorable. Loved when it was blushing/flustered. On a side note, the game sounds amazing. I will excitedly keep up with each milestone you reach in making this :)

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 5 місяців тому

      aw ty. I am glad you found him engaging and that you enjoyed the video.

    • @tysorex
      @tysorex 5 місяців тому

      @@gatorsoup yeah im interested in game dev so I eat content like this up

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 5 місяців тому

      @@tysorex same! I love game dev channels.

  • @yusefoku9766
    @yusefoku9766 5 місяців тому

    cant really suggest anything but am excited for the future of this project, its very interesting! goodluck brah

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 5 місяців тому

      Thank you very much!

  • @NiohArcadia
    @NiohArcadia 5 місяців тому

    I think you should check out God hand. It's not only a fantastic videogame but every bit of the design philosophies of that game could serve as a great inspiration. Especially when it comes to enemy designs (not asthetically) and how the player percives/approaches combat due to enemy design. I thank the algorithm for recommending this video. I hope your project is a relatively smooth process. Be the best Gator dev and... yeah i done have Clever gator puns. :(

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 5 місяців тому

      God Hand, I will check it out! Thank you for the kind words!

  • @lenargilmanov7893
    @lenargilmanov7893 5 місяців тому

    Completed before the end of 2025? Good luck with that! Seriously, though, it's an ambitious project and will take lots of time and effort.

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 5 місяців тому

      Yeah it is admittedly an ambitious game with an ambitious deadline, but it is the deadline I need psychologically so that I am not still adding new features in 2027. (I hope that makes sense.) I tend to work a lot better on games when I have a finite deadline, it forces me to focus on what's really important. Thank you so much for the comment, it is greatly appreciated.

  • @AgustinWander
    @AgustinWander 5 місяців тому

    This sounds really interesting, looking forward to see what you come up with!

  • @AquaFreakG
    @AquaFreakG 5 місяців тому

    You should play or just check out the Ninja gaiden serious (the 3D remakes ofc) they are my favorite character Hack N slash games

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 5 місяців тому

      ooh okay I will look into it. I think I played a bit of one of the 360 ones back in the day but I know next to nothing about them.

  • @Technobabble83
    @Technobabble83 5 місяців тому

    i have an idea on hoe to implement a fixed camera without it being super jarring. instead of the camera just teleporting to the new location when the trigger is detected, make on a "rail" you can say. If the character comes near a door the camera will begin to zoom in behind the character and follow them into the new room where it then takes a new fixed position. this i think solves your problem. Also you can make the camera while its in a fixed position wiggle around and follow the character slightly so its allways kinda in focus.

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 5 місяців тому

      Hey ty for the suggestion, that is a good idea! I may look into that sort of solution for some specific segments of the game(no spoilers rn tho haha)

  • @obrabo5046
    @obrabo5046 5 місяців тому

    duuuude I wish you the best of luck I love character action games and this concept looks sick Looking forward to see more of it

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 5 місяців тому

      yay, thank you I am glad you like it so far!

  • @imraanakollo-arenz1449
    @imraanakollo-arenz1449 5 місяців тому

    From one dev making a character action game to another I wish you the best of luck! If you're gonna move to making your own animations, I'd recommend Cascadeur for speeding up the animation process!

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 5 місяців тому

      Yay for another character action game dev! Thank you for the kind words, I am going to be making my own animations so ty for the tip. I will take a look at Cascadeur when I get closer to that part of the process.

  • @meliodas8409
    @meliodas8409 5 місяців тому

    Really promising game! I had a question, though... Is the game trying to be scary? Or uses horror inspired aesthetics only? Cause feeling good while doing sick combos sound like not that horrifying 😅

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 5 місяців тому

      Thank you for the comment and the question! I am happy to answer. The game will have a horror inspired aesthetic with a cosmic-ish/body horror elements depending on the chapter of the game. The world is inherently twisted and warped and there will be segments where the player is disempowered in non combat sections because you are correct doing sick combos and beating up baddies is not exactly the disempowerment you find in survival horror. However, combat is always about the catharsis of doing sick combos and feeling empowered. A good example of what I am going for game-feel wise would be Batman: Arkham Asylum(mild spoilers), where combat sections feel great and powerful, but when scarecrow is messing with your mind it is very creepy and unsettling. Another example would be Alice: Madness Returns I hope this clears things up. There is going to be a dedicated video about this in the nearish future.

    • @meliodas8409
      @meliodas8409 5 місяців тому

      @@gatorsoup You are right! Those games were awesome at both action and horror. You really know your stuff. I'll be watching your videos for sure!

  • @yeast00
    @yeast00 5 місяців тому

    i hate horror games but ones where i can fight back are fucking awesome

    • @meliodas8409
      @meliodas8409 5 місяців тому

      What do you mean? 🤔 This is not even his first game

    • @gatorsoup
      @gatorsoup 5 місяців тому

      Than howdy am I making the game for you hahaha. Ty for the comment it made me smile

  • @itsafish4600
    @itsafish4600 5 місяців тому

    cool