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NEW UPDATED SUPPORT TIER LIST [14.13]
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📰 In today's video, I am giving you the Support tier list for patch 14.13. I hope you will enjoy the video, and as always if you have any questions write them down in the comment section!
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  • @cusrsedstuff8043
    @cusrsedstuff8043 9 днів тому

    W

  • @cusrsedstuff8043
    @cusrsedstuff8043 9 днів тому

    W

  • @sonaleaguetv7747
    @sonaleaguetv7747 Місяць тому

    Sona...B or C tier??? probably lower if pro list...But i am feeling generous A tier...Well with reasoning like that who could argue... i would counter the entire top 2 tiers with Sona Taric or Heimer...there is a reason why these 3 in the supports role have a far higher win rate than your entire top 2 rows...Maybe Nami is higher than Heimer/Sona...

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy Місяць тому

      You are faker bro, holy!

  • @mrj4nk1ns
    @mrj4nk1ns Місяць тому

    Saying lux is d tier is a bit wild

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy Місяць тому

      Maybe next patch!

    • @sonaleaguetv7747
      @sonaleaguetv7747 Місяць тому

      this list is wonky. I assume its a pro player list of supports...But even in pro tier i would think Cait Lux it viable certainly as good as swain......For lower tier players (or most of the player base) there are like 4 maybe 5 champs in his 1st 2 rows of champs that i would recommend...Janna, Rakan (if you are good with him) , blitz and Nami... Ali is a hell no...Braum is pretty safe...Leana is feast or famine...Rell can just be kited...Pyke is too difficult for the average player...Karma is so meh...Lulu is just good with cog...Naut is Leona...I am assuming he giving pro/high tier support list as he probably clueless at what work in Gold below...

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy Місяць тому

      @@sonaleaguetv7747 The list is for everyone, not for Gold and lower players. If you are searching every champion sucks on the list. All good.

  • @sebastianwborodo
    @sebastianwborodo Місяць тому

    Swain is a true top laner or mid laner. He sucks as a support

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy Місяць тому

      That's why he is C tier!

  • @ompalompa5566
    @ompalompa5566 Місяць тому

    What about galio support ?

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy Місяць тому

      Hey! I knew I forgot someone. I think galio belongs in A tier since people are really not used on playing against him.

  • @marikkni9495
    @marikkni9495 Місяць тому

    Main Zilean. He is a lot of fun, but the ammount of teammates flashing away w/ his R is insane. :D

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy Місяць тому

      The same situation is with Renata W, people are just allergic to good abilities!

  • @candy6852
    @candy6852 Місяць тому

    Would you agree that adc is in charge of deciding wave decisions while support decides on fights? Would be interesting to see a breakdown of responsibilities for botlane

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy Місяць тому

      That sounds like an awesome idea! I do think that you both can dictate how the tempo of the lane is going to go. You guys (at least by the book) need to be synced so you can take down enemies. I am very aware that we don't live in a perfect world so that is not the case. If you think that your support is doing something wrong (picking bad fights, poorly organizing the wave) you need to communicate that. So I wouldn't separate duties since you guys are in this together.

    • @katslash4181
      @katslash4181 Місяць тому

      I think you're missing the point. The objective of wave management is obtaining as many resources as possible, while denying the enemy as much as you can. This includes doing it in a safe way since dying = losing waves. It doesn't matter who makes the decision as long as it's the right one. The same goes for fights, but in fights your objective is to perform your role as effectively at possible, that depends on champs, the reason why you say supports make decisions in fights is because they either play engage, which needs follow up from teammates, or enchanter, which allows them to lay back, disengage and they have to look at the big picture of how the fight is going, while for example, a marksman, has to hyperfocus on landing as many autos as possible while staying safe from dangerous cds. Honestly, you should make YOUR own decisions at every part of the game because if you fuck up, you'll learn from it, and if you do it right, you'll get the most out of the resources that are given to you, and also the satisfaction of knowing you did well. Full muting everyone is a good suggestion so people can't drag you into bad plays, not the most effective 100% of the time but you mostly can see what they're trying to go for from the map, and this way you'll improve much more

    • @candy6852
      @candy6852 Місяць тому

      @@CoachFloxy I am only an emerald support as of now. This distribution of tasks just came about as we are playing around our limitations in knowledge and awareness. Basically trusting each other to make the right call and follow through

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy Місяць тому

      @@katslash4181 I really appreciate you taking the time to write this, makes me so happy!

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy Місяць тому

      @@candy6852 we are in this together!

  • @Mati-zc2ym
    @Mati-zc2ym Місяць тому

    if you count 1,2,3,... 4 minions then you're not gonna be overextending, then it's a fking neeko

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy Місяць тому

      Had the same exact situation, with the same student, we counted minions and 5th one was Neeko. We cried from laughter.

  • @notlisztening9821
    @notlisztening9821 Місяць тому

    There is no logic in minion interaction. Every single time two equal waves are meeting each other, my minions focus down one single enemy minion and their minions split their damage over multiple of mine, so my wave survives with 2-3 minions. This always happens, whether I or the other laner stands next to it doesn't matter and I have started to observe this months ago. Literally always, without exception.

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy Місяць тому

      So many factors might make the wave go one or the other way. Unfortunately, I can't tell you from the head what the case is since I don't have the example in front of me, but you can always shoot me a DM and I can give you explanation of how everything is working.

  • @yellowbebrovich6359
    @yellowbebrovich6359 Місяць тому

    Ur not playing a damn dota chill

    • @Dark_HumourYT
      @Dark_HumourYT Місяць тому

      If this isn't maser+ kinda useless information compared to other things

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy Місяць тому

      @@yellowbebrovich6359 context where?

    • @mariokempes9517
      @mariokempes9517 Місяць тому

      @@Dark_HumourYT how knowing wave management is useless xD

    • @DaniDani-zb4wd
      @DaniDani-zb4wd Місяць тому

      @@Dark_HumourYT??? This is basic knowledge. Even gold and platinum players know that in euw server

  • @yrxsx
    @yrxsx Місяць тому

    How to explain a simple thing in the most confusing way possible

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy Місяць тому

      If you need any more tips, shoot me a message on discord!

  • @ioannismano311
    @ioannismano311 Місяць тому

    Enemies minions = Of the tower allied minions😂

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy Місяць тому

      I had 5 sessions that day, forgive me for my flop 😴

    • @ioannismano311
      @ioannismano311 Місяць тому

      @@CoachFloxy ofc I'll forgive you... You can hear the irritation in your voice at that moment😂🤭

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy Місяць тому

      @@ioannismano311 I was like, HOLY DID I SAY THAT

  • @dieseerobe4266
    @dieseerobe4266 Місяць тому

    With the next minions u want to uninstall and play good games

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy Місяць тому

      Im thinking minecraft here 🤔

  • @nimrodszocs2795
    @nimrodszocs2795 Місяць тому

    They need the second wave to eat the next wave tho, it’s not like they are stronger lol, a bit of a hole in the explanation

    • @jpj7087
      @jpj7087 Місяць тому

      Minions grouped up are stronger because they focus fire, thats why pulling the melee minions lvl 1 make the enemy lose exp if they leash

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy Місяць тому

      @@jpj7087 love it

  • @TranquillShot
    @TranquillShot Місяць тому

    Odd way of putting it lmao

    • @Guano_Van_HD
      @Guano_Van_HD Місяць тому

      But i understood every word

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy Місяць тому

      @@Guano_Van_HD LOVE IT!

  • @sunlightInky
    @sunlightInky 2 місяці тому

    by theory of logic and everything 💀💀💀

  • @clarkejacobson863
    @clarkejacobson863 2 місяці тому

    Promo SM

  • @fish-eZ
    @fish-eZ 2 місяці тому

    Why wouldn’t aph wait for it to slow push?

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy 2 місяці тому

      In this specific scenario I am not teaching my student to understand what aph is doing, I am teaching him to understand if it happens he is aware and can punish every single overstep!

  • @fisher1x187
    @fisher1x187 2 місяці тому

    There's no walking in for Aphelios on this exact clip unless his monitor turns off; if he did then we are below gold elo and it's not something you should expect from competent players. Applicable things that aren't influenced by the behaviour of the player being better or worse are way better to teach in my opinion

  • @DANY-ts1nz
    @DANY-ts1nz 2 місяці тому

    May I ask you what Elo you usually coach ? Or especially which Elo you coached in this Clip. Respectfully ofc.

    • @dislexyc
      @dislexyc 2 місяці тому

      3 mins in, Kayn is 2 camps ahead even though he already died and Aphelios has 10 C's and is about to die for a melee minion when the wave is pushing towards him Probably plat

    • @DANY-ts1nz
      @DANY-ts1nz 2 місяці тому

      @@dislexyc No way you say plat. Because your last thing you say is exactly what is happening. The Wave is crashing towards him. You can clearly see that Kalista is ahead in CS, has more Minions and they build up preassure. There is absolutly NO reason for aphelios to go in to get the minions unless its a probably below silver.

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy 2 місяці тому

      Thank you for your question, nothing bad to take from there! I am able to coach pretty much every elo, but example that you saw from the clip is from student that i platinum!

    • @dislexyc
      @dislexyc 2 місяці тому

      @@DANY-ts1nz looks like he was plat

  • @lukas2080
    @lukas2080 3 місяці тому

    But what if the jungler desides to sneak behind that long wall at blue and come from behind? Then you are fxked. What are you supposed to do in that case?

    • @huynhcuong9624
      @huynhcuong9624 3 місяці тому

      Master here u just got fuk that’s it , this guys don’t know what he talking about .

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy 3 місяці тому

      Well it all comes to map awareness at that point, in order that to happen he needs to cross close to mid lane; in most cases your mid laner would have a ward that is going to spot him if he goes for that kind of play. If that is not the case one simple opening from base towards mid (place ward close to chicken camp and then path bot) is going to do it.

  • @stefanjoksa
    @stefanjoksa 4 місяці тому

    The most annoying thing is when an enemy support is chasing my jg around grubbs, yet my support lulu is sieging bottom tower on smolder. Be an active support or you ain't climbing.

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy 4 місяці тому

      "You are not support for your ADC, you are support to the whole team". Very nicely sad!

  • @duchamonteiro
    @duchamonteiro 5 місяців тому

    likezão e rodando esse video para fortalecer + 1 novo inscrito

  • @bigthinkie3050
    @bigthinkie3050 5 місяців тому

    Stop using um Its cs’ing for speech but reverse. You can get really good results from improving even slightly.

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy 5 місяців тому

      Yeah that’s the thing that I’m trying to work on.

  • @BigUnit270
    @BigUnit270 5 місяців тому

    Ah yes. Ahri has E, very high elo analysis

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy 5 місяців тому

      Make sure to re-watch that video for me please, we can talk afterwards.

  • @IOEUIE
    @IOEUIE 5 місяців тому

    How to give hints without giving hints

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy 5 місяців тому

      More hints coming every single day, so stay tuned!

  • @eduanmienie7647
    @eduanmienie7647 5 місяців тому

    Zyra can stun?

  • @RainbowTBear
    @RainbowTBear 5 місяців тому

    Basically means don’t queue up at all

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy 5 місяців тому

      That, or just be prepare that your neurons are gonna suffer with all the inters

  • @teteradelabestia
    @teteradelabestia 5 місяців тому

    CoreJJ is responsible for the triangle analogy on bot.

  • @polyjackets8659
    @polyjackets8659 5 місяців тому

    He sounds like 🍪 LoL

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy 5 місяців тому

      Wait to hear my voice when I’m not sick then 😏

  • @toekanmobeil892
    @toekanmobeil892 5 місяців тому

    Imagine you're facing 5 fakers and you have 4 inting hylissangs on your team

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy 5 місяців тому

      That is one hell of a comparison 🤣🤣

  • @thelionman97
    @thelionman97 5 місяців тому

    Wow you learned the basic warding

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy 5 місяців тому

      No problem, come again tomorrow for more tips!

  • @1blameonme1
    @1blameonme1 5 місяців тому

    That means i can’t ever even attempt making plays

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy 5 місяців тому

      That means that you are always step ahead of the play and you expect everything. On top of that you are not tilting since you assume your teammates are bad, if they are really bad that's okay you expected that, but if you see that they are doing something, you have somebody to carry along your side.

  • @Anhnongdan290
    @Anhnongdan290 5 місяців тому

    Best pro tip ever 👌

  • @hadihassan7314
    @hadihassan7314 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for the tips

  • @dylanjarman4779
    @dylanjarman4779 5 місяців тому

    I thought that was obvious..... I have played with irons that know this

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy 5 місяців тому

      Not every Iron knows that and that’s why I’m here!

    • @samonkey1
      @samonkey1 5 місяців тому

      Tbf I’m in platinum and some of the Junglers don’t care and will risk dying for objective instead of ganking and getting prio

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy 5 місяців тому

      @@samonkey1 thats why we are here, to get the awareness on all junglers so they can understand what is the main job before killing the big monsters!

  • @energy1136
    @energy1136 5 місяців тому

    *attacks the wave

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy 5 місяців тому

      *At perfect timing as I was explaining*

  • @Wildminecraftwolf
    @Wildminecraftwolf 6 місяців тому

    nah its called compensation, its not good, watch coach curtis content.

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy 6 місяців тому

      It was mainly for this situation, since they both (alistar and varus) died after very long hesitation from alistar (to go or not to go in). In that specific case alistar should do the wrong thing with his adc since there was no other play on the map, and he would’ve died with him anyways since he was just staling. Thank for the recommendation you can watch some other clips here too!

  • @crogamezdl4011
    @crogamezdl4011 6 місяців тому

    My yas top explaining why he is 0/10 in early game

  • @TakezoMushashi
    @TakezoMushashi 6 місяців тому

    Yeah but the problem is lots of people are really stupid even in masters I had games where the support or jgl would just take a bad engage and die and then we either lost the objective or the team tried to salvage and lost even harder. It's important to remember you aren't obligated to follow a bad play as well.

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy 6 місяців тому

      Totally feel you, have the same situations in my games.

    • @TakezoMushashi
      @TakezoMushashi 6 місяців тому

      @@CoachFloxy The amount of games lost because people keep trying to play as if they didn't make 3 mistakes previously is actually outrageous. Player base mental/autopilot is crazy sometimes.

  • @Nifriz
    @Nifriz 6 місяців тому

    Off topic, always target the carry in bot lane fights do not waste skills on support and wait for the enemy adc to make mistakes (wasting skills on support/misposition) then punish. You wont believe how common this is in low elo (below master)

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy 6 місяців тому

      It does make the most sense to do that. But if the enemy support that is squishy oversteps, and tries to punish you, as well as him not having the summoners while jungler is ganking, you would always go for him!

    • @DottorLofi
      @DottorLofi 6 місяців тому

      Well, focusing Soraka (for example) sometimes its not a bad idea

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy 6 місяців тому

      True that also, good point!@@DottorLofi

  • @Aflonsod
    @Aflonsod 6 місяців тому

    Solos though

  • @gabepowell8989
    @gabepowell8989 7 місяців тому

    Nice coaching floxy

  • @1dozmos
    @1dozmos 7 місяців тому

    1:39:56 I'm famous. Hi Mom [Floxy]

  • @undeadward5635
    @undeadward5635 7 місяців тому

    So what happen if the thing doesnt according to the plan?

    • @CoachFloxy
      @CoachFloxy 7 місяців тому

      Well in all scenarios there will be something that wouldn't be part of the plan, but the one thing stands and that is that you can't control your teammates and can only focus on you and your gameplay!

  • @Bona995
    @Bona995 8 місяців тому

    Caneeeeeeeeee

  • @Ferzu-un8le
    @Ferzu-un8le 8 місяців тому

    WOW THIS WAS RLY HELPFULL! THANKS COUACH F1OXY