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This is exactly what I needed to see. I even have that same car seat. We have a 2 year old and another on the way. Really would love to have a fun rwd car like this but still need the ability to fit 1 or 2 kids in a pinch as our main vehicle is a wagon. Definitely not the most practical car but it's good to see it can work! Thanks for this video.

Did you also adjust clutch pedal height? That helps a lot.

Very hard car to drive smoothly at lower speeds.

I own a 2024 GR86 and I down shift rev match no problem. Maybe the gr86 is different. I hardly even notice any rev hang. My engine also responds right away putting my foot down. I’ve owned a lot of sports cars and there are definitely way worse rev hanging cars. Try a WRX or a Mustang. Way worse than these cars

Rev hang and slow throttle response? Must be different in the US. I have no problem rev-matching and throttle response is as near to instantaneous as I can detect.

I got a VB WRX and get 15-22mpgs when trying to have fun. I consider 27 an upgrade lol

So about the shifting between 1-2 that’s a problem in the auto too if you go over 8kmph before shifting it’s not bc you’re abusing the clutch

Define, perfect. For you? A SUV.

What are you buying to replace it?

I have a ‘23 brz and can say I had the same issue with rev matching, got a pedal commander based on the topher’s recommendation and it makes a huge difference. I think it was about $300 and it’s definitely worth it.

Super solid review, I own a 2022 auto and the main things I can agree with is the rev hang, it's speed and engine noise. The FA24 seems to make a lot of ticking and clicky noises, you just gotta accept it for what it is lmfao. The automatic for this car sucks too, even in manual mode it takes a good half second or even second to shift when you use paddles, really not responsive at all. Still love the thing to death though but lord do I wish it was just a LITTLE quicker

MTEC clutch spring solves issue number 4. I replaced the clutch pedal spring and added the throttle pedal spacer as the first two modes I reached the firts 1k miles.

that rev hang is shite even in GR

One of the most honest reviews about the GR86/BRZ… congrats Drew. There are a bunch of reviews but most very biased due to the hype. Do you feel it’s a car you can easily get over it after a couple of years of ownership?

The pedal response from factory is not good. I added a pedal commander and it transformed the car. I took the clutch spring out very early on as well and enjoy that over stock. I too struggle going from 1st to 2nd. It's almost like it grabs harder at that point for some reason. I have also lowered the clutch pedal a bit which seems to help. I average 30mpg calculated, 32.4 on the trip meter daily driving. I do try to get good milage most of the time.

I find that if you do a slower clutch release during the 1-2 shift to synchronize the revs, it smoothens out the shift. I think the jerkiness is caused by rev hang

Thanks for the video. How tall are you and your wife?

Great review! Thank you for making this video. Your practical video is refreshing and I loved seeing how you use it with your family. We plan to get a BRZ in the next year or two and I've looked many times for UA-cam videos that just talk through living with it. I hope you make a few more videos! (I have plenty of other questions I'm curious about)

On the passenger side, plastic right above the glove box against the door panel, there is a plastic panel there. Take that off and disconnect the wire you see, no more pumped in engine noise! I wish there was a software way to do it. Did that on mine and was very pleased with the results. just posting here for anyone who hasn't seen a way to remove it before.

The rev hang/throttle mapping really tilts the scales towards the new Miata for me.

Good job. Thanks

Pilot lost MPG with this new platform and adopted hard plastics across the cabin even in the Elite trim for cost cutting measures. In my opinion the technology, fit and finish is way behind Telluride. It definitely needs a refresh!

Problem is Kia doesn’t age well. Honda lasts forever.

Ex-L does not come with laminated glass on the sides. Just the windshield. I found the same things as you noted. Even thought they are not sports cars, the Telluride isn’t as composed as the Pilot especiall. My wife loves the Telluride and it appeals to her eyes but she said the Pilot though simple, less flashy was better quality. Should be taking delivery of the Pilot this week. Great review.

Great comparison👍 which trim level did you choose in the pilot?

Anyone know where i can find floor mats spesific to the Pilot 2023? I like the ones Honda sell but im open to getting them somehwere else.

17 minutes of looking at you. Why? Just show the vehicles and put your voice audio over that.

Pilot for the win! Pros: exterior design, interior design, perfect infotainment screen placement on the dashboard-super helpful on the daily, panoramic sunroof, 8-seat configuration, and a fantastic 10 speed transmission. No way to go wrong w the Pilot at the $44k-$52k range.

I’m getting my Pilot tomorrow

Great detailed comparison review. Love you to compare the new Mazda CX-90 and compare to the new Pilot or when revealed the new Toyota Grand Highlander.

I test drive both the same day and went home with the pilot elite.

Great review, we just bought the Pilot EX L and love it. It felt roomier than a lot of the competition. I am really liking the engine and transmission.

Thanks for an objective review. Both have strong points and some weak points, and they are closely matched in feature sets. The AndroidAuto/Apple Carplay issue is REALLY a miss on the Telluride BUT the Honda has the smaller and strangely placed info center screen. The Telluride does come with some features that have to be optioned on the Pilot, but the Pilot comes with proven Honda engineering and reliability. Both however, are fine SUVs for this segment. What I do find amusing is in some comments you'll get "Kia all the way!!" or "Honda is SOOO much better" when in reality they are very closely matched in engineering aspects, refinement, and comfort. It all comes down to personal preference. That said, within the next few months I intend to buy....... one or the other. LOL! Gotcha!!! Still doing my research.

Excellent review and comparison. Very helpful as I consider my vehicle purchase. Thank you very much for your efforts!

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Great comparison of the 2, thank you. Overall, which vehicle is reliable?

Great review

Does pilot have smart cruise control good as Telluride? Then I will choose pilot. I hate stuck on traffic

kia is just like jeep, for the fans it doesnt matter if its gonna break as long as they like how it looks.

The lack of wireless CarPlay is just ridiculous. In my opinion. That by itself is one of the main reasons. I am also going with a pilot. Great review, great video, appreciate it.

Agree on most points, Drew. I do feel the Telluride's front seats are more comfortable overall and are a little deeper (I'm 6'4"). What has convinced me to go with the Pilot is dealership experiences. The Kia sales people have been poor to actually ignorant, even before getting to the market adjustment conversation. I've been in 7 Kia dealerships, all with bad, bad attitudes. To be fair, Honda is not what it once was, in this respect. But overall, I felt liked I'd been slimed when I left the Kia dealers and I don't want to wonder what my service experience will be like at Kia. Most of the Honda sales people I experienced were average to excellent. Good luck with your new Pilot!

Slightly biased towards Honda pilot. I took it as your own personal exp. I have bit different and better exp with Telluride

Have you test driven the lexus rx 350? If yes, how does it compare with the telluride in terms of ride comfort and quietness?

Thanks for your video. Appreciate it!

This guy works for Honda dealer

I wouldn’t compare a Kia to a Honda, Kia’s and Hyundai have horrible transmissions, just awful.

Excellent analysis 💯👏💵

I respect your decision, and your analysis on the two…my wife and I went with Telluride we got the SX Prestige X-Pro, I didn’t even realize the pilot got facelift in 2023, my wife and I steered away from Honda because of the price…but after doing some research this morning surprisingly both top trims are about the same price…we were looking for a van but every time we saw one it was out of our price range….here in southern Cali Hondas tend to be about 10 to 15k more than other companies…MSRP For a top trim pilot was about 53k same for the telluride…we got a Telluride..had for about 3 weeks now, we enjoy it hopefully it remains reliable but only time will tell…the warranty is 10yr/100k and we got the expanded one for bumper to bumper to include electronics 10yr/100k too, Kia-Hyundai/Honda/Toyota vehicles are the best bang for the buck…it comes down to preference and how well you maintain your vehicles….Enjoy your pilot🙂

Great comparison, Drew. It is so difficult to draw conclusions with modern suvs. A simple design fault which this Honda tech has pointed out is the poorly positioned gear selector which is right next to the cup holders. If you do drink coffee, it will spill onto your gears and cause a short at one point or another. More design issues here: ua-cam.com/video/Wn-2iF7iQsg/v-deo.html

Redesigned pilot is awesome. However this review is biased.