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How to set up your 2025 Explorer
Setting up your 25 Explorer
1 Set up WiFi connection to your house check for updates
2 Add your cell phone
3 Set up your remote garage door opener
4 Set the ambient lighting / Cabin Light turn on
5 Set up Sirius/XM Satellite and program channels
6 Sign into Google
7 Google Play Store download Nitro 2
8 Sign into UA-cam
9 Sign into Alexa
10 Personalize your favorite sound settings
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КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @michaelclark1036
    @michaelclark1036 3 дні тому

    Purchased one. Excellent quality.

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 2 дні тому

      Dealership got me a new one. And yes the new one is night and day better.

  • @stephentalamo
    @stephentalamo 4 дні тому

    Can you do a video on how to set up the garage door opener? With my 2025 Explore ST I am only able set up the homelink with the middle button and I would like to have it programmed for both of my garage doors. Thank you

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 4 дні тому

      @@stephentalamo hold the button you want to program till it blinks fast. Then press the remote button while aiming it at the visor. Should go. If that does not work you can clear the memory by pressing the outer 2 buttons. Then start over.

  • @miketorguson
    @miketorguson 5 днів тому

    400HP and mud flaps!! So clean

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 4 дні тому

      @@miketorguson yes. The little rocks 🪨 from driving hit my Borla exhaust and take the paint 🎨 coating off. I did not know that was even happening until we took it off of the 21 ST to put it on the 25. Had to repaint the tips. Crazy part is that the tips are off set from the back wheels.

  • @not2dae57
    @not2dae57 11 днів тому

    Thanks for the very informative video. No SUV out there can go toe to toe with the Explorer ST performance wise at same cost.

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 10 днів тому

      And to look as good right??

  • @Yung_Jones88
    @Yung_Jones88 12 днів тому

    I want to check my blue one now! I'm super old so I think i would've seen those problems on mine but I'm still going to check

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 4 дні тому

      @@Yung_Jones88 go over everything

  • @Yung_Jones88
    @Yung_Jones88 12 днів тому

    I just got my 2025 ST as well. I use the calm or the vehicle one where is shows your surroundings

  • @Kate_Short-For-Bob
    @Kate_Short-For-Bob 21 день тому

    Blimey. What shonkey build quality from Ford. Starts to explain why more and more people are buying Japanese!

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 20 днів тому

      @@Kate_Short-For-Bob If Ford cannot get a vehicle from Detroit to MD without getting scratched I cannot see how a car shipped from Japan or Korea would do any better. I don’t see how my blue ST made it past Ford’s QC booth. Under those paint inspection lights you can see for sure how bad the paint was. Don’t robots and automation catch these issues? Wow!

    • @Auolol
      @Auolol 19 днів тому

      It's shite

    • @Auolol
      @Auolol 19 днів тому

      3L V6 300bhp 💀 my Porsche has better 4L v8 900bhp

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 19 днів тому

      @@Auolol You must be happy.

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 19 днів тому

      @@Auolol Did that make you feel better?

  • @claydog6422
    @claydog6422 21 день тому

    2025 Explorer Set Up List 1 Set up WiFi connection to your house check for updates 2 Add your cell phone 3 Set up your remote garage door opener 4 Set the ambient lighting / Cabin Light turn on 5 Set up Sirius/XM Satellite and program channels 6 Sign into Google 7 Google Play Store download Nitro 2 8 Sign into UA-cam 9 Sign into Alexa 10 Personalize your favorite sound settings Bonus Point: Get a game controller from Amazon

  • @Auolol
    @Auolol 22 дні тому

    That's cold my guy I'm getting my 7800x3d 4070 ti super 124gb ddr5 6400mz ram

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 19 днів тому

      You are not waiting for the 5070? They are almost here

    • @Auolol
      @Auolol 19 днів тому

      @ icba

  • @disposable_dad
    @disposable_dad 24 дні тому

    I have been doing MOBIL 93 for a month now. I honestly can't say I have noticed any difference in performance or mileage . I noticed more of a difference with my 2017 3.5 sport fwiw. These 3.0 engines are incredible. Congratulations on the 25

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 23 дні тому

      @@disposable_dad My 21 ST got 20-21 mph my 25 gets 16. Huge difference.

    • @disposable_dad
      @disposable_dad 18 днів тому

      ​@@claydog6422hopefully that's because of the break in, hopefully that's not a myth! It is interesting though because it's the same engine, 🤷good luck!

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 17 днів тому

      @@disposable_dad 17MPG and I just filled up

    • @disposable_dad
      @disposable_dad 17 днів тому

      @@claydog6422 you can do it! No turbo spool. Stay under 60mph. It's easy to do especially in a ST! 😄

  • @disposable_dad
    @disposable_dad 24 дні тому

    Love borla products

  • @regulartxdude7813
    @regulartxdude7813 Місяць тому

    None of these issues should be present on a brand new car, no matter what the price is. I hope Ford takes care of them.

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 Місяць тому

      @@regulartxdude7813 big news 📰 !! I am getting a new ST tomorrow!

  • @Anthony-fd8mh
    @Anthony-fd8mh Місяць тому

    I got mine a few weeks ago. I also have the gaps on the rear spoiler that I just noticed the other day. However also keep an eye on your phone charger. Mine stopped working then started working but it was no longer showing up in the notification area on the right side of the center screen. Took it to the dealer and all they said was Ford was aware of it and said they would let me know if and when there was a fix but there was nothing they could do. (It worked fine two weeks ago when I brought it home🤷‍♂️) and technically it works but the icon in the notification section no longer shows. Also for some reason when the vehicle sits after driving it and locking it. Sometimes it resets the dash and I lose 3 of the pages I added to the instrument cluster. I lose driving assistant page, my trip 2 page and my temperature page. The dealer also said they could not reproduce it yet it happens almost every other day and I told them all they have to do is lock the car and wait like 10-15 minuets. Yet they are too busy to have someone sit in it and wait so they say they could not reproduce it. Funny thing was when they told me my car was ready it was reset just like I told them but I could not tell if the mechanic reset something or not so I’m forced to wait and see if something worse happens. Also it’s more of an annoyance at this point as all I have to do is re-check the pages. Other than those issues everything else seems ok but ya the QC could be better.

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 Місяць тому

      @@Anthony-fd8mh big news 📰. Dealership is getting me into a new vehicle tomorrow.

    • @Anthony-fd8mh
      @Anthony-fd8mh Місяць тому

      @@claydog6422 nice.

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 29 днів тому

      @@Anthony-fd8mh the car I am turning in the camera stopped working on the way to work and turned off all the safety tech. That was strange.

  • @aprilroseu
    @aprilroseu Місяць тому

    There is no reason to drill more holes for your license plate holder two screws is more than enough to hold it on how fast are you people driving

  • @cattrek
    @cattrek Місяць тому

    Lets just say what they really are. They look good but they are crap. Quality is nothing to Ford. V6 400 Hp is a joke when you have the best being a Platinum having standard a 4 cylinder and ST is a V6. I mean, what the hell. The look and wheels are beautiful but the rest is nothing. Don't waist your money on these. Maybe 2026 will be better but these ECO Boost with Turbos is just a bad deal all the way around. Don't buy these. Let Ford eat them for what they have caused with this wreck.

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 Місяць тому

      I disagree. There are only so many cool looking SUVs in the market and this is one of them. It is fun to drive. Ford will fix it and make it right.

  • @soulja4187
    @soulja4187 Місяць тому

    I put e15 which is 88. I'm still at 700 miles

  • @Smurfwin
    @Smurfwin Місяць тому

    Yeah you gotta watch out for black ice. They know how to sneak up on you. Dangerous!

  • @wesmullennix3495
    @wesmullennix3495 Місяць тому

  • @msokes9
    @msokes9 Місяць тому

    I usually do 87 tbh but I put in 93 a couple days ago

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 Місяць тому

      @@msokes9 any performance change ?

    • @msokes9
      @msokes9 Місяць тому

      @@claydog6422 if there was any, I couldn’t tell. I’m completely stock at the moment.

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 Місяць тому

      @@msokes9 Some say the higher Octane gas burn cleaner

  • @follower8834
    @follower8834 Місяць тому

    Not a good idea long term.

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 Місяць тому

      @@follower8834 why? State your thesis.

  • @PhilipAbby
    @PhilipAbby Місяць тому

    They should just replace your car, my 2025 ST has none of them issues

  • @pinesurf1
    @pinesurf1 Місяць тому

    Been using exclusively 87 in my '20 ST for a year and a half until last week. Started underboosting bad, trans shifting strange. Been fueling with 93, not only has it fixed this, but it is now a rocket compared to 87 (spool faster on launch, powerband hits harder).

  • @msokes9
    @msokes9 Місяць тому

    S type or Atak?

  • @APEX.86
    @APEX.86 Місяць тому

    Sounds good! Parking garage acoustics always help.

    • @jeffmacdougall9190
      @jeffmacdougall9190 Місяць тому

      Sounds just like 2020 - 2024 lol. Basically, sounds great!!!

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 Місяць тому

      Better then my neighbor's dog barking ...I also did the sock exhaust in the same spot

    • @rickp8978
      @rickp8978 Місяць тому

      Awesome. Can you do a video of some revs and pulls please. I'm trying to decide what exhaust to put on. I also just picked up a 25. Thanks for any info.

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 Місяць тому

      @@rickp8978 Borla is the way to go...ATAK

  • @wbae1340
    @wbae1340 Місяць тому

    Thought you had a 21 Explorer?

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 Місяць тому

      @@wbae1340 I did. Traded it in for the 25.

  • @Dotngg6050
    @Dotngg6050 Місяць тому

    Lol had 3 Explorers since 2020, 1 Platinum, a 2022 ST, and now a 2025 ST Zero issue

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 Місяць тому

      @@Dotngg6050 my 2021 ST was good for the most part. Except the camera 📷 issues. And screen 📺 glitches.

    • @Dotngg6050
      @Dotngg6050 Місяць тому

      @@claydog6422 yeah, i had the blue camera and some infotainment issues. But nothing mechanical that made me go nuts. The 2025 model is a knotch above the previous version. Infotainment is way anove what it was.

    • @Dotngg6050
      @Dotngg6050 Місяць тому

      @@claydog6422 our other car is a Mercedes GLE and believe me, Ford is way more reliable than Mercedes. I had all kinds of mechanical issues with this thing…

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 Місяць тому

      @@Dotngg6050 I feel for you....I am still waiting on a fix date.....My Dealership had a meeting with a Ford rep last week...So still waiting to hear

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 Місяць тому

      @@Dotngg6050 On the 25 you have Google, Alexa and Siri all wanting to help you...Gets a little out of hand

  • @srtxxx4661
    @srtxxx4661 Місяць тому

    NEVER BUY 1ST MODEL YEAR 🤷‍♂️

  • @Bretzel18
    @Bretzel18 Місяць тому

    If they are going to replace the roof rails, and you don’t want them to begin with, why not tell them to just remove them instead of replacing them? I don’t get it.

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 Місяць тому

      @@Bretzel18 would be nice. But that is not what ford will do.

  • @BigMerc2188
    @BigMerc2188 Місяць тому

    I'm trying not to laugh at your video, but come on it's a mass produced Ford Explorer ST....Plus, I have owned quite a few newer Ford's and their Quality Control just like GM and Dodge have went down big time ever since covid-19.... I have a 2023 Ford Mustang Mach 1 and it definitely had some fit and finish issues, but I just dealt with it and moved on, because I surely do not want a tech at a dealership tearing my brand new vehicle all to hell....Just my two cents.

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 Місяць тому

      So I just just deal with all the issues and not worry about it...WOW?? Really? Sorry, I am not doing that and they will fix all the issues.

  • @Virga773
    @Virga773 Місяць тому

    Hey have you got any social media I can message you on? I have a question regarding overwatch

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 Місяць тому

      I don't play Overwatch anymore. Sorry.

    • @Virga773
      @Virga773 Місяць тому

      @@claydog6422 okay but that’s perfect for the question I have, could I message you on discord or instagram or something?

    • @Virga773
      @Virga773 Місяць тому

      @@claydog6422 clay dog pls respond

  • @eugenious5314
    @eugenious5314 2 місяці тому

    You are not wrong about the issues. BUT, it's a Ford Explorer and it will never be perfect. You'd probably be better off taking it to a good detailer and moving on - with the exception of the sunshade being adjusted. I can assure you that you are opening up a 10 gallon can of aggravation letting the dealership mess with anything in this video. Also, don't take delivery next time until it's right.

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 2 місяці тому

      @@eugenious5314 ummmm no. I am not taking it to a detailer. I am not spending my own money 💰 on issues that Ford is going to fix soon. Ford will fix the issues and I have no problem taking it back until it is perfect.

  • @TheRoman1
    @TheRoman1 2 місяці тому

    Never early adopt! Esp ford! Toyota / Lexus or nothing.

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 2 місяці тому

      @@TheRoman1 early adopt? Ford has been making explorers 🧭 for years. I wanted to be the first on buying this new version. This is all cosmetic. It will be fixed.

  • @Bswaggleton
    @Bswaggleton 2 місяці тому

    Got my 25 ST over a month ago. I don’t have any exterior issues at all. Same vapor blue color no black roof. Sunroof shade gap is exactly the same. It has an issue near the passenger front window with the headliner, so it’s going back for both issues. Open the hood and see what color it is in the engine bay mine is white 🥴

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 2 місяці тому

      @@Bswaggleton they might have replaced your side airbags after production like they did mine.

  • @Mike060504
    @Mike060504 2 місяці тому

    How’s it drive?

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 2 місяці тому

      @@Mike060504 OMG! So much nicer than my 2021 ST. The suspension is all new. 🆕. Seats 💺 are all new. So nice. 👍

    • @Mike060504
      @Mike060504 2 місяці тому

      @@claydog6422 really the suspension is new?? I have a 2020, only 30k miles but I have the itch. Honestly the seats are huge for me, is ford the only one making cushiony seats now? Yes drove a grand Cherokee summit and the seat was hard as rock!

  • @devanpelletier9760
    @devanpelletier9760 2 місяці тому

    Can’t forget the unpainted engine pay … ford really cut corners on the 2025

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 2 місяці тому

      @@devanpelletier9760 I think it looks kinda nice. The paint on my 21 ST under the hood did not match anyway. I don’t mind the white at all.

  • @elizabethray9621
    @elizabethray9621 2 місяці тому

    You are being EXTREMELY KNIT PICKY 😂😂😂 these are built to be pumped out. It's not a Rolls-Royce and hand made lol 😂😂

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 2 місяці тому

      @@elizabethray9621 that I am. I spend a good amount of money 💰 for this vehicle and I want it to be perfect. $7000 to repair a new vehicle is crazy. I have never had issues with Ford like that. My last ST was made very well.

    • @acarguy374
      @acarguy374 2 місяці тому

      All cars are balanced between hand made and robo made. The door frame on the B pillar between the front and rear doors was bent the same on the one I almost got…..what a POS……went with a better SUV and never looked back. The quality reflects how much they care about the customer…..they don’t.

    • @PhilipAbby
      @PhilipAbby Місяць тому

      I have the same car, mine has 0 of the defects his does, why shouldn't he complain? He's got close to 70k in it.

  • @BigGyz680
    @BigGyz680 2 місяці тому

    Dealership is going to destroy that truck completely if they change the roof rails and everything else!!! Like you i had a 2021, and bought a silver 2023 and quality of assembly is @95% i love it! You have to Cobb tune it because i tell you are missing on a lot of power and great transmission tunning….

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 2 місяці тому

      @@BigGyz680 my Borla exhaust goes on next week

  • @pyro1284
    @pyro1284 2 місяці тому

    That’s looking like a Lemon 🍋 I’d ask for a replacement.

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 2 місяці тому

      @@pyro1284 lemon is 3 attempts to fix the same thing. They have not done ☑️ anything yet.

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 2 місяці тому

      @@pyro1284 also my dealership has a ST on the lot with a big dent on the roof so a replacement might not be the answer

    • @elizabethray9621
      @elizabethray9621 2 місяці тому

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @pyro1284
      @pyro1284 2 місяці тому

      @@claydog6422 hence why I stated, looking like a lemon. Hopefully they get it all fixed. I understand it takes a few repairs before it’s considered a lemon.

  • @cwsosby7145
    @cwsosby7145 2 місяці тому

    E15 here because it's available @ almost every gas station in Iowa and cheaper. I also don't notice any decrease in mileage or performance.

  • @brianb7844
    @brianb7844 2 місяці тому

    I work right by the factory. The stuff that goes on in that place is crazy. This is from people who use to work there. They are constantly trailering these suv's back and forth between lots. Doesn't surprise me that they are getting scratched up. Also, the cars in the lots are being broken into on a regular basis to steal the seats. No security what so ever.

  • @adams5806
    @adams5806 2 місяці тому

    Why did you buy this vehicle? Did you not look it over before signing the contract?

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 2 місяці тому

      It was a custom order. Remember you have 48 hrs to report all issues to Ford. So over the long 3 day holiday weekend I went over everything. Now Ford will fix it. It is all cosmetic. It is so much nicer over my 21. It rides nicer...seats are nicer ....cabin is nicer

  • @attackb5349
    @attackb5349 2 місяці тому

    I have been buying cars for over 20 years and bought two first year model cars during that time. Different manufacturers. ~13 years apart. Never again. ALWAYS skip the first model year of a new vehicle. Lesson learned I guess! Good luck with the fixes.

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 2 місяці тому

      This 25 is so much better. Loved my 21 but this 25 is so much more technically advanced.

  • @josedelarosa6449
    @josedelarosa6449 2 місяці тому

    First yr of new models, big no no

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 2 місяці тому

      @@josedelarosa6449 yeah that is why I had the 2021 ST and not the 20. But not like this is a far stretch from the 2024.

  • @simd510
    @simd510 2 місяці тому

    How long are they going to need your vehicle to fix all that?

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 2 місяці тому

      He said 4 days. Depending on paint how much painting they have to do. It has been 2 weeks. Have not heard anything yet. Oct 2nd i get my Borla exhaust put back on @ Meineke.

  • @Xerxeis
    @Xerxeis 2 місяці тому

    I complained about my (brand new 2023) sunroof having a gap and basically got told well that’s too bad. Same dealer was confused why I wanted an oil change at 1k, especially since it had been sitting on the lot for 1+yr. Kinda lazy and they’re too “busy” to fix problems. Wouldn’t even check my trans level, didn’t want to break seal unless I was having problems.

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 2 місяці тому

      Less money they have to spend...more profit

    • @attackb5349
      @attackb5349 2 місяці тому

      Why would you want an oil change at 1k anyways?

    • @Xerxeis
      @Xerxeis 2 місяці тому

      It sat on dealer lot for over a year, and just as a precaution on a new engine. Doesn’t hurt to do it.

  • @Pawe70zga
    @Pawe70zga 2 місяці тому

    My 2020 ST got Totaled i wanted to get a 2025 but not feeling the front so i went with a Volvo XC90 ohh boy what a difference in quality, just lacks power but thats obvious its a 2.0 V4 procharged luxury family SUV, but i love the mpg on it 😂

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 2 місяці тому

      Sorry about your 2020 ST. What was the out the door price on the Volvo?

    • @Pawe70zga
      @Pawe70zga 2 місяці тому

      @@claydog6422 i got a used one 2019 with only like 50k miles for 27$ plan was to keep the ST for another 2 years and get the 25 ST slightly used whwn they crack the ECU and can tune it but mother nature and hail had different plans lol

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 2 місяці тому

      @@Pawe70zga Maybe next time around Ford will have their act together.

    • @Pawe70zga
      @Pawe70zga 2 місяці тому

      @@claydog6422 we will see

  • @wvhillbille9458
    @wvhillbille9458 2 місяці тому

    You'd think after 5 years Ford would get their shit together on their quality control, the unions make it hard to fire under performing employees so you have shit bag employees who don't care. That's why we aren't going to trade our 2020 ST and I'm about to leave Ford for good.

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 2 місяці тому

      It sat for 3 weeks or so for "Quality Control". Not sure what they were looking at. My dealership has an ST on the lot with a huge dent on the roof. Probably from transport.

  • @RussSwanson
    @RussSwanson 2 місяці тому

    Minor "issues". LoL

  • @jasontaylor5061
    @jasontaylor5061 2 місяці тому

    Cool the same game someone can play on their phone or tablet but now they have to sit in the car.

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 2 місяці тому

      Guess you never owned a Tesla

  • @pepsico815
    @pepsico815 2 місяці тому

    Best looking explorer ever. That grill must be difficult to clean though

    • @claydog6422
      @claydog6422 2 місяці тому

      The put ceramic coating on it....not sure if that helps or not....