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Roberts Pianos Houston
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Softening up tone
Softening up tone
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Before acquiring any piano, we subject it to rigorous scrutiny to ensure its working condition. We tune each piano to A440-442 and fine-tune the action to meet quality specifications.
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For further details:
Website: www.robertspianoshouston.com
Email: info@robertspianoshouston.com
Phone: 832-930-0469
Thank you for your business!
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Try Our Pianos
Schedule your appointment to explore our pianos at robertspianoshouston.com/
Our Preparation Process
Before acquiring any piano, we subject it to rigorous scrutiny to ensure its working condition. We tune each piano to A440-442 and fine-tune the action to meet quality specifications.
Seamless DeliveryPiano
Delivery services can vary in cost, typically ranging from $400 to $700. We offer local ground floor delivery within the Houston for between $250-350 for upright pianos and between $300-$550 for grand pianos. If you require delivery to a more distant location, please don't hesitate to get in touch with us for a personalized quote.
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I’m learning a lot lately as well. For example the regulation has to be pretty good when voicing because it can make a note sound different. I had one damper closer to the string than the others, giving an experience of not enough sustain on that note, but I didn’t realize it, and over-softened the hammer (got to where I put a couple stabs in the striking area). But then once I noticed what had happened, a couple very cautious drops of very thinned shellac brought it back perfect. Hot ironing seems to harden but only temporary. I used shellac instead of lacquer because I had it around. Needling is very labor intensive but I’ve certainly gotten to looking forward to how it makes the tone of a new set of hammers bloom. I haven’t experimented with the liquid approach. It sounds like some techs use them in combination. We have a Chickering concert grand here in our Methodist church (Lompoc) that was once the performance piano in the largest department store in Los Angeles, so the story goes. But was restored trying to make it like a Steinway I think and I believe the hammers may be too hard. On scaling that is less intense than Steinway, heavy hard hammers self-dampen I believe, causing what I’ve heard a tech call “pop and die”.
That's interesting about the shellac! I haven’t experimented much with voicing up, a couple of drops suffices to harden the tone again? The point about hammers self dampening and the damper stopping sustain are definitely useful observations and worth noting. Improving sustain through voicing is something I would like to learn more about I believe it has to do with the angle of the needling being further down the shoulder of the hammer
@ Yes, I had it thinned maybe 1:7 with denatured alcohol. Maybe not good for clients because there is coloration with it (not as much as you might think but still noticeable). On the other hand shellac is mostly reversible with submerging in denatured alcohol overnight so I imagine that could be helpful in some cases. Also nice is that it hardens quickly, as it’s just a case of the alcohol evaporating I think. My procedure on needling is deep on the shoulders focusing on about 1/4” from next to the strike point outward. I put stabs downward outside of that range but I haven’t experimented much on that. And, in cases angle some stabs from the shoulder into the area beneath the strike point. I never ruined a hammer I think but in order to get a feel for the thresholds of useful needling I think one needs to nearly ruin some. Your results in this video sound great to me!
*Instead of cotton I mean to say wool
Beautiful results! What a satisfying job that must be :)
Yes a very satisfying piano to hear that large full sound at the end. .
I owned a Baldwin Acrosonic for 15 years. Lovely sound. Nice feel, really. The first time I repaired it I had no idea what I was doing. When I took the action out that rail with all the holes in it fell right off. It was a nightmare to put it back on. You literally have to thread 88 needles simultaneously! I finally figured out how to do it on the floor. It was a nightmare. The second time I needed to repair it, I put rubber bands on 10 of the pins that go through the holes of that rail. This kept the rail from falling off. By the fourth time I had to repair it, I just threw the whole thing out.
People don’t realize how hard they are to maintain most techs that are in demand stop maintaining spinets as they are more complicated. It doesn’t work out well for the pianist.
Nice reviews! I have found a preused Samick SU 147 S in very good condition here in Peru. I think the action is good, slighty heavy, it has great resonance and the middles and highs sound beautiful. it has a bright metallic sound. However, and may be because of that, lows and midlows are too strong and metallic. When i try a voicing in that area it does not feel subtle at all. In your opinion. can it be fixed? is that Samick SU 147 S worth to buy?
In most cases Samick is an entry level to mid range piano I would recommend a Japanese for more of a long term musical companion. Kohler and Campbell in my recent experience is a slight let better design than regular samcik.
Recently i buy Kohler and Campbell by Samick. Great sound, easy to tune. Action wood components are always broken. Maybe PianoDisc volumen? I repair one by myself and now i have like 4 nonworking keys more.
That’s strange to hear mis that the hammer shank breaking? If it is it may be too hard strike a good pianodisc tech can help with adjusting the action
Thank you !
You’re welcome! I hope the video is helpful.
I have a lovely 1950s Wurlitzer spinet. Doesn’t sound the prettiest, but it was my grandmothers and I cherish a lot of wonderful memories with it.
That is wonderful! Thanks for sharing. Keeping one as a memory is a great reason for having one. My intention for the video is to help buyers choosing a new piano or used one. But in the case of a family memory I totally understand, some acrosonic spinets sound nice.
I enjoyed that. Thanks.
You’re welcome, hope you had a great Christmas!
I have # 1132, and my technician says it's one of his favorites. It has a rich sound unusual for its size, and in good health considering it's nearing 100 years old.
I have a 1971 Kemble (John Brinsmead) which is similar, though a little shorter. Nuve instrument.
This actually sounds nice in a haunting way though?❤
Name,sir
Improvised tune 🎵
Song name?❤
Improvised tune 🎵
Great video!!
Thanks for watching! 🎹
To be restored?
Yes this was before restoration
Wow. I want one :)
The shot I had was before the final tuning, the tone can be heard full and rich, a lovely piano! Will eventually need hammer butts
Lovely piano!
Baldwin definitely had their own thing going in the grands. Very distinctive sweet, controlled and approachable tone, low key dip of 9.5mm. Second to none for people who like it.
Fun + professional development at the same time. That’s when you know you’re in the right line of work for you. 🙂 Yes the US could benefit from more European type pianos. Would be a real jewel if we could have a factory for them here, maybe buy the defunct Ibach brand and make a factory in Texas?
Yes definitely a passion for me to work on and view pianos in my mothers home country
Very interesting, thank you. Good to see other countries' shops and makes. (Would be good content to continue-- travel the world, Evan, and show us what you find!) Good video 🎹👏
That would be a dream
Pinblock is shot. You're the worst 😅😅😅
Pin block feels ok larger pins will most likely create enough torque for regular tuning stability. More tests in the shop required before a full conclusion is made for instance trying larger sizes.
Beautiful sound and excellent playing! Thanks for sharing.
Incredible playing as always and all your pianos' voicing and tone sound absolutely fantastic.
Thank you very much! This one had this tone originally it’s difficult to know when to soften and when to leave brighter. Do you have a preference between mellow and bright
Thank you for your great informations 🙏
I have a 1977 BL-61, I absolutely love it, it's one of the nicest uprights I have played.
In several cases I’ve seen old uprights have dampening issues in the five to eight notes above the break. Actually old Steinways have flying dampers (additional dampers above the hammers, attached on wires to the lower dampers) on these notes. On my old big upright I simply replaced the dampers on these notes with 50 percent longer ones extending lower and it has worked very well. This Price & Teeple probably depends on their budget. Lowest budget job would probably be hammers, bass strings, stabilize the wood capo and pins with CA glue, and turn the pins under the keys or ideally rebush them. I keep wanting to experiment with cleaning bass strings because it seems like it should be possible but I haven’t seen anyone do much experimenting. Salt with vinegar agitation bath for several days is what I hope to try out at some point. Anyway, some thoughts . . . Hang in there, wow with locations like that you could make dramatic videos like the Salisbury Organist channel (fun channel from your old home country!).
The cleaning of bass strings sounds interesting let me know how that goes if and when you get the chance to try it. Thank you for the information and tips, I feel the piano needs a lot or nothing in this case to avoid patching it up and give it a new lease of life. Thanks again for adding great information Charles, hope all is well in CA. Evan
@ Well you understandably have high standards given your father’s shop. When I see this Price & Teeple I guess I’m being what some techs call a “tooner” - willing to do patch type work to get some functionality to keep it going down the road. CA glue is cyanoacrylate, just to be clear. I’ve seen so many visually clean pianos that don’t have clean unisons, I’ll take clean unisons over a shiny visually clean piano any day. And anything to get keys less wobbly, like even cutting in card stock shims behind old worn out balance rail pin bushings. I actually tell people from time to time, King Charles has some old jackets that have been mended, very visible old patches; not everything needs to be shiny and new. On the finish I’d just run around with furniture marking pens to darken and blend those scratches.
I like the idea of always improving a piano even if not perfect I think it’s better than just tuning and going away with a check. If the client won’t pay for a new piano or full restoration I totally understand why CA glue is used. I’ve heard you have to apply a lot is that true?
@ I’ve used it just a couple times on pins as I’m a semi-pro technician at best, but there is a kind of reasonable amount you end up putting on each pin, a drop or several drops. I’m not sure you can get it to wick down more than that, but in any case it can seem like a lot after 200+ pins, yes. You have the piano tilted back, in the case of an upright, (I’ve just used a big stack of pillows underneath) so that the glue drips downward but the fumes do add up and can get you if you’re above looking closely at what you’re doing; but I read it’s not particularly toxic. I’ve tried to just go fast once I start and then you’ve got the whole thing treated within minutes.
That's a lot of work. Is this the kind of job you would take on? If so, I hope you'll document it!
This is a long job I may get some help from a local restorer on the damaged wood, the challenge with these older pianos is you really have to very many parts and the wood can become brittle, the video will be presented to the client to see what they might like to do.
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i do know that Julius Feurich III now works with Seiler. So this piano seems very strange to me. i was a dealer for both Feurich AND Schimmel (as well as Bechstein) from 1983 to 1989. I visited the Feurich factory in Gunzenhausen, Feb. 1987
That’s interesting I believe from the other comments it was a temporary collaboration
You are are a great improviser sounds great. Great skill to have ❤I try myself when the repertoire kills me ❤…
Thank you I am thinking about ways to teach the tips I’ve learnt along the way wrapping my mind around how to explain the idea
I don’t think there is any instrument or era of music which is able to capture the essence of exasperated screaming like romantic piano. (And Schimmel has a balanced tone able to offer attack for things like this as well as glassiness for other genres. . . Cool!)
Did you manage to sell it? Sounds pretty crap.
Not a sale this one is a clients piano for tuning
What is the piece in the beginning?
It’s a theme that came to me in the moment
Evan, I can tell how much you enjoy this piano...sounds mostly great with a little coaxing and usage, bass register sounds a bit weaker from where i sit. A special piano to be sure- resonant, mellow tone.
Thank you Michael yes enjoying this piano very much. The bass does well for the small size, the tone is mellow and very smooth and pleasant across all registers. Concert pianists, from what I hear, like a little bite to tame on demand.
Very beautiful 🎹🥰
Thanks for listening
Nice sweet tone on this Baldwin.
Hello!. What did you exactly to this piano, hammer voicing?
Yes that’s right Jose voicing with needles on the shoulders at different angles and peppering the tips of the hammers. The bass I haven’t really touched yet not sure it needs very much mostly the treble needed toning down
Mellow piano❤
This is just a 'dirty fix'. The real solution is to redo the bushings.
Yes definitely the optimum repair would be to rebush especially when very worn. The cricket bats are there to regulate when only moderately worn. Which is why they are adjustable. If you can replace I agree it’s much better thank you for mentioning this
Please complete the video ❤️❤️👍
1978 Korean Samick upright sound example ua-cam.com/video/Wmu0psqrQHE/v-deo.html
@@RobertsPianosHouston thanks
Looking for baldwin hammerhead
Most times there is no replacement from Baldwin just the closest match. Piano techs most times have spares. They need to bore the angle the same and match the size then voice if needed
www.robertspianoshouston.com/pianos-for-sale/kawai-kg-2c-grand-piano-2/ the piano is for sale on our website. For enquiries (832) 930-0469 / info@robertspianoshouston.com thank you! ER
Це супер ❤, як же легко пальці літають по клавішах
Thank you, you are very kind! 🎹❤️
Que bonito suena ☺️
Gracias Carlos! 🎹
This doesn't look hard at all. Go work on a car and tell me this is hard.
This isn’t hard in terms of the repair of the bridge countersink a screw pull it together and then raise the strings. In terms of the video the objective is to help people buying spinets on Facebook or from friend relatives when they could easily spend the same and buy a piano that the technicians are more likely to maintain well. Adjust the action with longer keys that play better a bigger soundboard and longer strings all making for a better purchase for the family who probably wants their child to learn on. Some alternative pianos much better and often similar prices Baldwin Wurlitzer consoles and or Samick young chang. Not top end basic middle but good pianos.
Thanks for the video! Doesn’t the mic stand vibrate when it's on the piano?
It doesn’t vibrate since the feet have rubber pads to absorb the vibration on this brand I’ve had no issues
@@RobertsPianosHoustonI see. Could you share the brand of the stand?
@RobertsPianosHouston Also keen to know mic stand brand for this purpose, not sure a disc base would be good for vibrations. Any info on yours appreciated thanks!
@@helengibson6108 I use the www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002D0KOG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 has rubber pads on the bottom which work well!